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crc21209
09-28-2009, 07:52 PM
Didnt see one of these, so I figured I'd start it...

crc21209
09-28-2009, 07:59 PM
The D is lookin' good so far :tu

Death In June
09-28-2009, 08:02 PM
Columbo is getting destroyed.

SAtown
09-28-2009, 08:18 PM
Panthers can't even freaking tackle. LOL at the Cowboys if they lose this shit

symple19
09-28-2009, 08:20 PM
The Cowboys look like pure ass so far

Panthers O-line is a joke

2 bad teams playing a yawner on Monday night...

Amarelooms
09-28-2009, 08:22 PM
The cowboys line ain't blocking on passes for shit. I say just keep running Jones. STop with stupid play calling and screen passes to the tight end. WTF is wrong with these morons? :elephant

Death In June
09-28-2009, 08:25 PM
Jason Garett is a shit for brains. Has always been the case.
In any case, somebody, on any team - needs to start tackling.

monosylab1k
09-28-2009, 08:32 PM
Good lord, this is like watching two retards fight.

Death In June
09-28-2009, 08:35 PM
Nah, it's not nearly as awesome or entertaining. It's more like watching old people fuck.

KSeal
09-28-2009, 08:38 PM
Yeah, this is a horrible game.

Amarelooms
09-28-2009, 08:39 PM
Would advise all you people to start pulling for a team that can actually score and has a QB...da Saints :elephant

symple19
09-28-2009, 08:40 PM
Good lord, this is like watching two retards fight.

Which is which?

cWk6RgQbPVc

SpursFanFirst
09-28-2009, 08:41 PM
Would advise all you people to start pulling for a team that can actually score and has a QB...da Saints :elephant

aw. Isn't that "cute?"

IronMexican
09-28-2009, 08:49 PM
This is a better game than Super Bowl 42.

u4lakers14
09-28-2009, 08:51 PM
if it werent for the efficiency of the cowboys passing attack they would be 2-0 and leading tonight

u4lakers14
09-28-2009, 08:51 PM
jenkins is great huh?

symple19
09-28-2009, 08:52 PM
Daylight come and me wanna Delhomme!!

Delhomme>Romo

Whisky Dog
09-28-2009, 08:53 PM
This is what bad coaching does to teams.

Need 2 main things in the NFL - HC and QB. Cowboys have no coaching.


Jerry, for god sakes fire Wade tomorrow, make yourself head coach to get it out of your system and finally realize you don't know shit about football, then the minute after this abortion of a season is over hire a GM who knows his shit and do whatever you have to to get Cowher in.

Amarelooms
09-28-2009, 09:00 PM
Lol...just face it the Cowboys not that good and not having a WR who can get open doesn't help. Regardless the coaches all need to be fired. Offensive play calling is horrible. I predict Romo is gone after this year as well :elephant

u4lakers14
09-28-2009, 09:04 PM
we need a new wade and a new romo.

all we need on defense is 3 new linemen, 2 new linebackers, and 4 new defensive backs, and i think we are contenders.

IronMexican
09-28-2009, 09:06 PM
LMAOOOO


Lakers and Cowgirls? rofl

benefactor
09-28-2009, 09:08 PM
lmao Cowboys. Jones has 54 yards on 7 carries but Dallas has still thrown the ball 19 times.

Death In June
09-28-2009, 09:14 PM
I don't get people calling for Romo to be pulled. Dude's been serviceable, and has shown flashes of great. He's had record setting seasons in consecutive years. Maybe you forgot the revolving door of shit QBs that were here after Aikman retired.

Whisky Dog
09-28-2009, 09:15 PM
Did Crayton just run out of bounds to avoid a kicker? He let a kicker stand in the way of him and open field?

mardigan
09-28-2009, 09:17 PM
Just keep giving Felix the got damn ball. How hard is that Garrett?

Whisky Dog
09-28-2009, 09:17 PM
I don't get people calling for Romo to be pulled. Dude's been serviceable, and has shown flashes of great. He's had record setting seasons in consecutive years. Maybe you forgot the revolving door of shit QBs that were here after Aikman retired.

Romo playing under a great HC could be great.

Anyone playing under Wade will suck. Brady, Manning(s)... All would suck ass under Wade.

slick'81
09-28-2009, 09:22 PM
that was an awful first half cowboys receivers again not doing much in the passing game and newman/jenkins have got to be two of the worst tackling corners ever .

oh and wade looks like hes about to have a heart attack

big 3rd and goal coming up for the cowboys

4th down and 1

lol pathetic

3-7 panthers

KSeal
09-28-2009, 09:26 PM
lmao cowboys

Death In June
09-28-2009, 09:26 PM
Crowd's getting restless.

slick'81
09-28-2009, 09:28 PM
some tough penaltys for sure tonight and now felix jones is big surprise here banged up

slick'81
09-28-2009, 09:29 PM
oh and this just in ratliff is a beast

slick'81
09-28-2009, 09:30 PM
u are awesome #41 great technique

slick'81
09-28-2009, 09:34 PM
lol wildcat for a first down

slick'81
09-28-2009, 09:36 PM
who needs mb3?!?! choice in da house 10- 7 cowboys

Libri
09-28-2009, 09:38 PM
Jerry Jones :lol

benefactor
09-28-2009, 09:38 PM
Very nice play call.

benefactor
09-28-2009, 09:39 PM
Jerry Jones :lol
You noticed that too? The "it's about damn time" face. :lol

Whisky Dog
09-28-2009, 09:39 PM
Choice is their best RB cause he's the only one who can actually stay healthy. And what's with Barber being so pissed he's not even there?

slick'81
09-28-2009, 09:42 PM
lol no td for carolina

benefactor
09-28-2009, 09:44 PM
Don't receivers learn to run past the first down marker in high school?

EricB
09-28-2009, 09:47 PM
Romo proving again, that if the receivers play decent, and the play calling is between agressive and pounding the ball with the run, he's a DAMN good quarterback.

Death In June
09-28-2009, 09:47 PM
Flozel, you sloppy bitch.

slick'81
09-28-2009, 09:49 PM
thers u go romo

EricB
09-28-2009, 09:51 PM
John Gruden says exactly what I've said.

He's young (Don't give me the age, playing time wise he's young), IMO he has NEVER had a good QB coach, and he wins games. 28-13 record, if he doesn't get hurt last year they go to the playoffs easily.


What Romo needs is a slightly better offensive line, he needs playing time. That simple.

The one season he played full time they won what was it, 13 games?

Personally I would get what would be considered the best QB coach available, and have him shack up at Romo's bachelor pad and make him live with him.

slick'81
09-28-2009, 09:51 PM
go choice!!

EricB
09-28-2009, 09:52 PM
BTW, Tashard Choice might easily be the best 3rd string running back in football. He has missability, speed, and he can hit the gaps HARD, that run on the TD series, he POUNDED that ball right up the middle and got the first down. IMO, Choice has shown that he deserves more PT...

Whisky Dog
09-28-2009, 09:53 PM
I'm thinking the aggie is overrated he hasn't done shit. I thought he was a bad ass

slick'81
09-28-2009, 09:53 PM
gotta get this thang in the end zone this drive

EricB
09-28-2009, 09:55 PM
Carolina tackles like a bad high school football team.

slick'81
09-28-2009, 09:55 PM
beason knocked the shit out of crayton there

slick'81
09-28-2009, 09:55 PM
u dont want none of tashard choice

witten taking peppers on and winning

2nd and goal from the one yard line for dallas

slick'81
09-28-2009, 09:57 PM
roy williams had that one bad drop give it to choice dammit

slick'81
09-28-2009, 09:58 PM
what the fck was that garrett fckn horrible

EricB
09-28-2009, 09:58 PM
Someone wanna tell me again why everyone thinks Jason garrett is so great!?

slick'81
09-28-2009, 09:58 PM
13-7 cowboys sigh shouldnt be this close

Whisky Dog
09-28-2009, 09:59 PM
Coaching. Will. Kill. You.

EricB
09-28-2009, 10:00 PM
Coaching. Will. Kill. You.


When the owner thinks he's a GM and is power hungry, that what happens

coughmaverickscough

Libri
09-28-2009, 10:00 PM
They should have pound it in with Choice. That was sad.

slick'81
09-28-2009, 10:00 PM
Coaching. Will. Kill. You.


http://blackdcc.net/Quickstart/ImageLib/Boyz_JasonGarrett.jpghttp://blogs.dallasobserver.com/sportatorium/Zombies%20-%20Wade.jpg

mardigan
09-28-2009, 10:01 PM
http://blackdcc.net/Quickstart/ImageLib/Boyz_JasonGarrett.jpg

Coaching phenom!


:lmao

symple19
09-28-2009, 10:01 PM
LMAO Cowboys...WOW. Absolutely atrocious.

My mom playing QB>Romo

Gas station clerk as OC>Jason Garret

A homeless person as coach>Wade Phillips

Whisky Dog
09-28-2009, 10:01 PM
I can't believe I just saw that. I still can't believe it. This is a team that can run, even the WRs are better run blockers than receivers.

benefactor
09-28-2009, 10:02 PM
When the owner thinks he's a GM and is power hungry, that what happens

coughmaverickscough
This basically encompasses all of the Cowboys issues in one sentence.

EricB
09-28-2009, 10:02 PM
LMAO Cowboys...WOW. Absolutely atrocious.

My mom playing QB>Romo

Gas station clerk as OC>Jason Garret

A homeless person as coach>Wade Phillips


Romo can't catch balls for Martellus Bennett and Roy Williams.

Romo aint the problem tonight and on most nights isn't.

symple19
09-28-2009, 10:03 PM
Sad thing is the Boys will probably still win. That's how bad the Panther suck

Death In June
09-28-2009, 10:04 PM
The cowboys have gotten so predictable with their backwards decision making that it doesn't phase me in the slightest that Garett chose two pass plays in a row on the one yard line.

EricB
09-28-2009, 10:04 PM
This basically encompasses all of the Cowboys issues in one sentence.

There was a short time when Jones gave up control of the team in the new NFL, was when Parcells ran the team.

Romo took over in the middle of that year and the next year, they were a 13 win team and made the playoffs two years in a row.


After that Jerry had to get his power back and gave it back to a puppet like Wade Phillips, Dave Campo, Chan Gailey...

symple19
09-28-2009, 10:05 PM
Romo can't catch balls for Martellus Bennett and Roy Williams.

Romo aint the problem tonight and on most nights isn't.

:lol at the fact you didn't refute my other points

slick'81
09-28-2009, 10:05 PM
get off the field carolina

EricB
09-28-2009, 10:06 PM
The cowboys have gotten so predictable with their backwards decision making that it doesn't phase me in the slightest that Garett chose two pass plays in a row on the one yard line.


It would quite honestly, make Romo a better quaterback.

Twice I heard him "kill" a play and select another one, both time it was running plays and one of em got first downs.

I think Romo's ability to read defense is mediocre to decent, but who knows...

slick'81
09-28-2009, 10:06 PM
just run straight up field crayton stop dancing

EricB
09-28-2009, 10:07 PM
:lol at the fact you didn't refute my other points

Wade Phillips is an idiot, wow what a revelation.

Whats next, the sky is blue?

Gonna break the news that Dallas is in Texas next?

Or that New York is a big city?

benefactor
09-28-2009, 10:07 PM
get off the field carolina
lol smack talking an 0-2 team

EricB
09-28-2009, 10:07 PM
just run straight up field crayton stop dancing


While other times i'd agree with that, that "dancing" got them a pretty damn big run back last time.

slick'81
09-28-2009, 10:08 PM
lol smack talking an 0-2 team


well there trying ill give em that hell this game isnt over yet :lol

mardigan
09-28-2009, 10:08 PM
lol smack talking an 0-2 team

lol losing to a 0-2 team

EricB
09-28-2009, 10:08 PM
The cowboys have gotten so predictable with their backwards decision making that it doesn't phase me in the slightest that Garett chose two pass plays in a row on the one yard line.


I'm wondering if Garrett the wonder leprechaun has ever heard of a playaction.

EricB
09-28-2009, 10:10 PM
The Cowboys might have the best running back combos in the NFL.

Only better than Minnesota because Choice and Jones >>>>>> Taylor and whoever the F else.

mardigan
09-28-2009, 10:10 PM
Boys need to trade Barber. Choice can do everything that Barber can.

benefactor
09-28-2009, 10:10 PM
lol losing to a 0-2 team
...game ain't over yet. :)

mardigan
09-28-2009, 10:10 PM
...game ain't over yet. :)

I was talking about the Texans.

slick'81
09-28-2009, 10:10 PM
lets go choice run that clock dry

EricB
09-28-2009, 10:10 PM
Choice is a goddamn bull ina china shop running up the middle.

Unreal for such a small wiry guy (Wiry for a RB)

slick'81
09-28-2009, 10:11 PM
and the passing game opens up

EricB
09-28-2009, 10:11 PM
Boys need to trade Barber. Choice can do everything that Barber can.

Trade him to Cleveland for their first.

Get whats his face the fantastic defensive back from Tennessee can't remember his name....

EricB
09-28-2009, 10:12 PM
and the passing game opens up


Its like Garrett all of a sudden realized "Hey if I play the pass off the run, it works better... Hmmmm, lets see if it works"

slick'81
09-28-2009, 10:13 PM
boys got to get atleast a fg here

slick'81
09-28-2009, 10:14 PM
fckn great

DUNCANownsKOBE2
09-28-2009, 10:14 PM
If this isn't intentional grounding idk what is.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
09-28-2009, 10:15 PM
Trade him to Cleveland for their first.

Get whats his face the fantastic defensive back from Tennessee can't remember his name....


I think it's Berry or something....but yeah either him or Taylor Mays would be a good pick in that scenario.

slick'81
09-28-2009, 10:15 PM
punt fucking great

EricB
09-28-2009, 10:15 PM
I'd go for it.

Play action to Crayton or Williams.

EricB
09-28-2009, 10:16 PM
I think it's Berry or something....but yeah either him or Taylor Mays would be a good pick in that scenario.

Yeah, that guy not only can tackle "Something no Cowboy corner can do" but he can defend like a motherf*cker

slick'81
09-28-2009, 10:16 PM
cowboys playing it safe defense has been in control this half...lets c what happens

mardigan
09-28-2009, 10:17 PM
This is the classic Cowboy setup. Come out in the second half strong, make mistakes that take points off the board in the 4th, then the team that hasn't done shit all game marches the ball all the way down the field for a td.

slick'81
09-28-2009, 10:18 PM
you figure the cowboys will find a way to lose but im still holding out hope for a win :downspin:

EricB
09-28-2009, 10:18 PM
I think it's Berry or something....but yeah either him or Taylor Mays would be a good pick in that scenario.


Yeah and honestly, Felix Jones, if he can stay healthy will be ready for the full time duties by then.

Jones and Choice in an offense led by Mike Shannahan callin the shots, get some safeties and a couple more good offensive lineman and sign a playmaker on the WR side, and the Boys would be a super bowl favorite IMO...

mardigan
09-28-2009, 10:19 PM
Thank God for Delhomme!

slick'81
09-28-2009, 10:19 PM
game set match lol at carolina qb, pick six!!

nothing to help a poor secondary out like a qb on his last legs

EricB
09-28-2009, 10:19 PM
Game.

Newman and Neil O'hohlmme on that pass combo.

benefactor
09-28-2009, 10:19 PM
lol Delhomme

Libri
09-28-2009, 10:20 PM
Newman!!

EricB
09-28-2009, 10:20 PM
Thank God for Delhomme!


One of the biggest atrocities if Im a Carolina fan, they've never drafted nor signed apotential "QB of the future". Crying shame.

benefactor
09-28-2009, 10:21 PM
I was talking about the Texans.
I know...I was talking about the team Dallas is playing. But it's over now so it matters little.

slick'81
09-28-2009, 10:21 PM
there now was that soo hard 21-7 dallas

EricB
09-28-2009, 10:21 PM
Sorry Chuckie, I wouldn't credit Bum's son with jack shit.

mardigan
09-28-2009, 10:22 PM
One of the biggest atrocities if Im a Carolina fan, they've never drafted nor signed apotential "QB of the future". Crying shame.

They mine as well tank and get Bradford or Colt at this point.

slick'81
09-28-2009, 10:22 PM
there game planning on smith tonight has been good

EricB
09-28-2009, 10:22 PM
Not Delhomme's fault on that INT. Looks like Smith didn't run the route.

I take back the O'holmme comment.

EricB
09-28-2009, 10:23 PM
They mine as well tank and get Bradford or Colt at this point.


No need to tank, they are bad enough to get a high pick.

Bradford though is probably gone to the Rams however..

EricB
09-28-2009, 10:24 PM
Gotta agree with Chuckie, Delhomme's INTs werent his fault.

His protection has been iffy.

If I were Carolina just run a straight no huddle, thats where Delhomme is best.


Alan Ball has potential to be pretty damn good...

EricB
09-28-2009, 10:26 PM
Should've been a facemask there..

mardigan
09-28-2009, 10:26 PM
Nice job rook.

LakasRool4eva
09-28-2009, 10:27 PM
Good to see my Cowboys are representing.

EricB
09-28-2009, 10:28 PM
Carolina baffles me. they have the weapons. They have playmakers in Muhammed, Smith, Stewart, Williams and King. Delhomme while he's not what he was in their superbowl years aint no Marc Bulger either.

Yet they struggle to run routes, they struggle play offense period.


The offensive line COULD be a problem, but then they come out with a great 12 or 13 yard run from Stewart or Williams.

Baffling.

mardigan
09-28-2009, 10:31 PM
Daaaaamn Butler. Crazy speed.

slick'81
09-28-2009, 10:32 PM
victor butler a rookie on a mission there is one of wade phillips projects right there lol

(2-1) and a 2 game road trip v denve and kc coming up

Goran Dragic
09-28-2009, 10:34 PM
Good to see my Cowboys are representing.


:lmao

A Lakers and Cowboys fan?

mardigan
09-28-2009, 10:34 PM
Man, could you imagine what Cowher could do with this running game and defense? That would be pretty scary.

benefactor
09-28-2009, 10:34 PM
:lmao

A Lakers and Cowboys fan?
I was thinking the exact same thing. Think we could name his baseball team?

Whisky Dog
09-28-2009, 10:35 PM
I'll give the props... Impressive defensive performance. Dominating 2nd half. Great job on the real Steve Smith.

kamikazi_player
09-28-2009, 10:35 PM
Not Delhomme's fault on that INT. Looks like Smith didn't run the route.

I take back the O'holmme comment.
Yeah, it was on Smith, he was benched after that int.

kamikazi_player
09-28-2009, 10:35 PM
WHOO! How bout them cowboys? :hat

Libri
09-28-2009, 10:37 PM
I think Jerry Jones pissed his pants. He was ecstatic!

Goran Dragic
09-28-2009, 10:37 PM
I was thinking the exact same thing. Think we could name his baseball team?


He's probably a Yankees/Dodgers fan. Undoubtedly Mexican, if you're a Lakers and Cowboys fan, there's a 90+% chance you're Mexican.

badfish22
09-28-2009, 10:44 PM
He's probably a Yankees/Dodgers fan. Undoubtedly Mexican, if you're a Lakers and Cowboys fan, there's a 90+% chance you're Mexican.

Nice racism you got there.

Goran Dragic
09-28-2009, 10:46 PM
Nice racism you got there.


Cry about it. People take things too seriously.

mardigan
09-28-2009, 10:46 PM
I fucking hate Steve Young so much as a analyst.

slick'81
09-28-2009, 10:49 PM
cowboys top rushing team in the nfl after 3 weeks

EricB
09-28-2009, 10:49 PM
Cry about it. People take things too seriously.


Theres a difference between a joke and racism.

slick'81
09-28-2009, 10:49 PM
I fucking hate Steve Young so much as a analyst.


+1 i dont know the guy personally but hes got douche bag written all over him

Goran Dragic
09-28-2009, 10:50 PM
Theres a difference between a joke and racism.


yes, there are. Making a joke about a fan stereotype and racism are two completely different things.

slick'81
09-28-2009, 10:51 PM
tashard choice is the man!!

EricB
09-28-2009, 10:54 PM
yes, there are. Making a joke about a fan stereotype and racism are two completely different things.

stereotypes at times are racist.

Grow up.

mardigan
09-28-2009, 10:55 PM
tashard choice is the man!!

Yup. I love this kids attitude and ability. As much as I like Barber, Tashard just seems like a more explosive version of him. It would be nice to see him starting.

Goran Dragic
09-28-2009, 10:57 PM
stereotypes at times are racist.

Grow up.


I wasn't aware you were an expert on the parameters of what is/isn't racist.

Whisky Dog
09-28-2009, 11:01 PM
I'll give the props... Impressive defensive performance. Dominating 2nd half. Great job on the real Steve Smith.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
09-28-2009, 11:04 PM
God, Matt Millen is a horse's ass.

manufan10
09-28-2009, 11:05 PM
How can anyone believe anything that comes out of Matt Millen's mouth? How can that idiot be a good analyst? :lmao

manufan10
09-28-2009, 11:07 PM
It sounded like Jon Gruden was interviewing for the Cowboys HC job. :lol

mardigan
09-28-2009, 11:07 PM
How can that idiot be a good analyst? :lmao

Well, he is sitting next to a stuttering retard and a lazy eyed catch phrase machine. Makes him look much better.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
09-28-2009, 11:11 PM
Well, he is sitting next to a stuttering retard and a lazy eyed catch phrase machine. Makes him look much better.


That's fucked up, it's not a lazy eye. It's a glass eye.

SpuronyourFace
09-28-2009, 11:15 PM
He's probably a Yankees/Dodgers fan. Undoubtedly Mexican, if you're a Lakers and Cowboys fan, there's a 90+% chance you're Mexican.

No not really. Not undoubtedly like the homosexual man crush you so clearly and obviously have on Goran Dragic, evidenced by your username and avatar. You must have it baaaad for him huh?

Nothing undoubtedly like that

SpuronyourFace
09-28-2009, 11:18 PM
Nice to get the win, but still, fuck JG. How does he call two pass plays in a row, the same type of play mind you, when the running game was dominating. That was horrible.

SpuronyourFace
09-28-2009, 11:22 PM
Boys need to trade Barber. Choice can do everything that Barber can.

I disagree. He can't do everything Barber does. Barber has better vision, runs with more will, catches better, and most definetly can pick up a blitz better.

Oh and the salary cap ramifications of trading Barber would hurt us also.

I love Choice, but there is only 1 Barber. Its also nice to have 3 different backs with different attributes.

bostonguy
09-28-2009, 11:23 PM
The Cowboys downfall will be their offensive coordinator and their head coach. They are the same stupid undisciplined team they have been over the last several season. JG is an idiot for not sticking to the run game at times. Wade isn't head coach material. Cowboys need a motivating head coach who doesn't take half ass performances and an offensive coordinator with common sense.

mardigan
09-28-2009, 11:24 PM
most definetly can pick up a blitz better.ith more will, catches better,


That's the only one I agree with you on. And next year is going to be uncapped, so the salary cap thing probably wouldn't be a problem.

bostonguy
09-28-2009, 11:25 PM
Even if Dallas had won last week and were 3-0, this would still be a concerning issue that wouldn't have gone away. I am not trying to bash the Cowboys but they haven't learned how to play smart disciplined football on a consistent basis.

mardigan
09-28-2009, 11:25 PM
That's fucked up, it's not a lazy eye. It's a glass eye.

:lmao

SpuronyourFace
09-28-2009, 11:35 PM
Even if Dallas had won last week and were 3-0, this would still be a concerning issue that wouldn't have gone away. I am not trying to bash the Cowboys but they haven't learned how to play smart disciplined football on a consistent basis.

Completely agree with you. The coaching in Dallas is atrocious. They get by on talent alone. And in the highest level of football, that being the NFL, talent alone is not going to be enough if you want to play in January.

This team is in desperate need of a disciplinarian of a HC. I also believe Romo is not getting the proper QB coaching he needs. And JG boggles my mind as an OC.

bostonguy
09-28-2009, 11:41 PM
Completely agree with you. The coaching in Dallas is atrocious. They get by on talent alone. And in the highest level of football, that being the NFL, talent alone is not going to be enough if you want to play in January.

This team is in desperate need of a disciplinarian of a HC. I also believe Romo is not getting the proper QB coaching he needs. And JG boggles my mind as an OC.

That is why I am not going to say Romo won't ever get it. I will wait to see if he gets a real coach that will chew his ass out for any dumb mistake he makes. Wade just isn't the guy. Unless the Boys win it all, I see Jerry replacing Wade and JG(unless his playcalling all of a sudden is consistently good and balanced) in the offseason.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
09-28-2009, 11:43 PM
:lmao


Anyway, why do you hate Stu Scott? He's the one guy on this planet who makes overusing stupid sayings sound cool.....for example, "Don't bring that kool-aid to a grown man's party."

Vinnie_Johnson
09-28-2009, 11:48 PM
The Cowboys downfall will be their offensive coordinator and their head coach. They are the same stupid undisciplined team they have been over the last several season. JG is an idiot for not sticking to the run game at times. Wade isn't head coach material. Cowboys need a motivating head coach who doesn't take half ass performances and an offensive coordinator with common sense.

Damn good post the Cowboys got rid of the wrong guy in TO too. Just look at how this team has no one that scares you know you can play man on man and stack the box.

Texas Chili Dog
09-29-2009, 12:26 AM
It's good to see the Cowboys finally get some turnovers and sacks.

EricB
09-29-2009, 12:49 AM
Damn good post the Cowboys got rid of the wrong guy in TO too. Just look at how this team has no one that scares you know you can play man on man and stack the box.

TO wasn't a huge influence in "scaring" anyone least year.

Who on the Steelers last year "scared" you?

HInes Ward, does he "scare" you? Not necessarily.

I think the day sof needing a Super star WR are over.

Its back to the old days of ball control, run and smashmouth the football, and having a kick ass defense.

Thats how Pittsburgh won last year and when teams step out of their element thats when they fail IE New England two years ago.

Vinnie_Johnson
09-29-2009, 08:55 AM
TO wasn't a huge influence in "scaring" anyone least year.

Who on the Steelers last year "scared" you?

HInes Ward, does he "scare" you? Not necessarily.

I think the day sof needing a Super star WR are over.

Its back to the old days of ball control, run and smashmouth the football, and having a kick ass defense.

Thats how Pittsburgh won last year and when teams step out of their element thats when they fail IE New England two years ago.

What does the Steelers have to do with the fact that Owens drew 2 guys and was the Cowboys big threat. Have you watched The Cowboys this year? The beat up on a crappy Tampa team and have looked awful vs Carolina and the Giants. Yes they are running the ball well do you think that would go away with a game breaking wide out?

monosylab1k
09-29-2009, 09:07 AM
Owens drew 2 guys

That's the biggest myth about TO. He almost never drew a double team last season. Most of the time he got single coverage and still got taken out of the play because they'd press him at the line. TO was awful most of last season and he's gotten even worse this season, I don't see how he'd be helping the Cowboys one bit.

manufan10
09-29-2009, 09:34 AM
The Cowboys downfall will be their offensive coordinator and their head coach. They are the same stupid undisciplined team they have been over the last several season. JG is an idiot for not sticking to the run game at times. Wade isn't head coach material. Cowboys need a motivating head coach who doesn't take half ass performances and an offensive coordinator with common sense.

The only thing I'll say, and I'm not really defending Wade because I really want the Cowboys to hire Bill Cowher, is that the Cowboys were undisciplined under Parcells too. Costly penalties, stupid penalties, poor tackling, was the same under Parcells.

Whisky Dog
09-29-2009, 10:09 AM
They had a lot less talent and younger inexperienced starters under Parcells too. If Jerry never gets TO and Bill stays an extra season or two he would have had a chance to coach up Romo and the other young players like Ware, James, Canty, etc. They might have become more disciplined.

dirk4mvp
09-29-2009, 12:14 PM
People discrediting the play TO brought to the Cowboys are hilarious.


The Cowboys passing game looks like shit. Most teams aren't going to let Witten run 8 yards turn around and stand there until Romo decides to throw it.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
09-29-2009, 12:27 PM
T.O.'s play in Buffalo is pretty telling about how much he'd be helping Dallas. Unless the offense features him and the QB gets him his touches early and often, he stops running his routes, gets pissed off, makes mental errors (dropped balls). If you want to be a run first, ball control offense, good luck doing that with T.O.

manufan10
09-29-2009, 01:36 PM
People discrediting the play TO brought to the Cowboys are hilarious.


The Cowboys passing game looks like shit. Most teams aren't going to let Witten run 8 yards turn around and stand there until Romo decides to throw it.

I never discredit the play TO brought. I'm probably the only Cowboys fan who thought that releasing TO wasn't a good idea. I think too many fans have used TO as the scapegoat. I, for one, would rather have TO on the team one more year and see what happens. Give Romo/Roy Williams/TO the chance to have one full season to work with. If it doesn't work then, and TO is still a problem, and it doesn't equal success then you can think about getting rid of him.

Vinnie_Johnson
09-29-2009, 03:54 PM
That's the biggest myth about TO. He almost never drew a double team last season. Most of the time he got single coverage and still got taken out of the play because they'd press him at the line. TO was awful most of last season and he's gotten even worse this season, I don't see how he'd be helping the Cowboys one bit.

They pressed him at the line and put a safety over the top. He still grabbed a ton of TD's on that you must have not been paying attention.

Vinnie_Johnson
09-29-2009, 03:58 PM
T.O.'s play in Buffalo is pretty telling about how much he'd be helping Dallas. Unless the offense features him and the QB gets him his touches early and often, he stops running his routes, gets pissed off, makes mental errors (dropped balls). If you want to be a run first, ball control offense, good luck doing that with T.O.

Not telling at all they have a lame check down QB that just checks down to a back. Buffalo has a crappy O line Edwards doesn't have time to get the ball out. Look at Evans his numbers are really low too. You TO Cowboy supporters are just blind to this crap. Is Romo a pro bowl QB too? Could the fact that TO was running open half the time maybe had something to do with making Tony look better then he is?

Dr. Gonzo
09-29-2009, 04:05 PM
Romo is a pro-bowl QB because he idolized Brett Favre growing up. Having arguably a 10 top WR of all-time to throw to and one of the best TEs in years has nothing to do with it.

mardigan
09-29-2009, 04:11 PM
Not telling at all they have a lame check down QB that just checks down to a back. Buffalo has a crappy O line Edwards doesn't have time to get the ball out. Look at Evans his numbers are really low too. You TO Cowboy supporters are just blind to this crap. Is Romo a pro bowl QB too? Could the fact that TO was running open half the time maybe had something to do with making Tony look better then he is?

How did the Boys look last year when Brad Johnson was playing? Romo haters can hate, and I myself have many problems with Tony, but don't try and imply that Romo doesn't have talent. He just needs a good coach to harness it.

mexicanjunior
09-29-2009, 04:14 PM
The Good

* Eventhough he wasn't spectacular, Tony Romo did a good job of not forcing anything and taking what the defense gave him. After such a horrendous decision making game last week, it was nice to see he can reign himself in and almost be Dilfer-esque in game management. I will take no TD's and a win over 3 INT's and a loss anytime.

* It is a shame that Felix Jones has become Mr. Glass from 'Unbreakable' because, when he touches the ball, he is the most explosive man on the field. Once he gets by the first layer of defense, the jets kick in and he is guaranteed 30+ yards on his speed alone. His 10 YPC average is mind blowing...just gotta find a way to keep him in the game.

* I know I throw around alot of "Statue of Witten" schtick when it comes to him always doing a "catch, fart and fall" but he is still Tony's most reliable target. Where would we be without Jason finding those open spots in the zone and keeping defenses honest? His run blocking last night was pretty good also.

* After a shaky start on pass protection, I think the O-line deserves some credit for giving Romo time in the pocket to make some critical 2nd half throws, as well as helping pave the way for a 2nd Straight 200+ yard running game. If only they could stop shooting themselves in the foot penalty wise (I'm looking at you #76).

* For the 2nd consecutive game, the run defense was outstanding against a great running team. Outside of a few runs by Deangelo Williams, the front 7 stuffed him and Stewart for most of the game. If you can stop the run, you give yourself a chance to win.

* Terrence Newman and Mike (Cowboy Chicken) Jenkins had problems tackling through alot of the night, especially against Steve Smith. That said, their 2 picks, especially Newman's, were both crucial and clutch. It was nice to see the secondary do something positive for a change.

* Victor Butler is showing some great speed on the outside, he should be starting ahead of Spencer.

* Outside of Nick Folk's 1st quarter shank, the special teams were solid. The punt and kickoff coverages did a great job holding the Panthers in check. Buehler is continuing to be the best pick from this years draft because he is actually playing and contributing.

* Tashard Choice was a yardage eating machine tonight. With Barber and Felix nursing injuries, he really stepped up and moved the chains for us. He is making a strong case to be the starter, with Felix the 3rd down back. Barber should be shopped around.

The Bad

* I have got to start with one of the most glaring problems from last night...the play calling. Jason Garrett is almost single handedly killing drives with his ridiculous decisions. The 2 fade routes at the goal line were inexcusable, especially when we were averaging 6.6 yards a carry against the Panthers horrendous defense. I don't understand his fascination for empty backfield sets and give up draw plays. He should have taken the head coaching job when he had the chance for our sakes.

* Penalties...penalties...penalties....9 for 80 is just too many for a team that was supposed to make an emphasis to correct this after the debacle last year. Maybe those fines need to be a little higher for these, they certainly aren't hurting Flozell's pockets at the moment. 25 grand for each flag should get the point across.

* Eventhough Newman and Jenkins had some nice and timely picks, their tackling was terrible last night. He wasn't the only one though, Barbie Carpenter is a whiff machine and doesn't belong anywhere near the field on 3rd down. We gave Keith Brooking alot of money to come here, let's have him there for all 3 downs.

* What was the deal with Barber not even being at the stadium last night? Was he upset about being held out for his own health? If this is the case, that is a very bad sign for a guy that we spent the farm on. With the depth this team has in the backfield (when Felix is healthy), we should really be shopping him around for a decent draft pick. Choice does just about everything Barber does for a cheaper price.

* For as much as I liked the front 7's commitment to stop the run, we are still not getting enough pressure on the QB. Ware is 0'fer on sacks, which is not entirely his fault with the double and triple teams he is seeing. Spencer and Spears have got to step up and make plays to relieve pressure from Demarcus and Ratliff. They started turning it around in the 4th quarter but that was after they knew Carolina had stopped running the ball. We need to see that kind of pressure from the 1st quarter on for this team to be successful.

Overall...I'm happy we got the win but this team still has some serious flaws that I don't know can be fixed anytime soon. Penalties and poor tackling will kill us against quality teams, we have been fortunate to get away with it against teams that are a combined 0-6...not a good sign at all. Wade had better find a better way to fix these issues by next week because Denver is actually not the pushover we thought they would be.

Vinnie_Johnson
09-29-2009, 04:19 PM
How did the Boys look last year when Brad Johnson was playing? Romo haters can hate, and I myself have many problems with Tony, but don't try and imply that Romo doesn't have talent. He just needs a good coach to harness it.

I am not a hater at all he needs coaching you are right. I was just saying TO made him better then he is. With TO he could just huck it down the feild and let him catch up to it. Roy Williams can't do that.

EricB
09-29-2009, 06:50 PM
He would do that in 2007 but he would drop the damn thing everytime down.

TO's play in Buffalo is telling of where he is at in his career.

badfish22
09-29-2009, 07:05 PM
The Good



* Tashard Choice was a yardage eating machine tonight. With Barber and Felix nursing injuries, he really stepped up and moved the chains for us. He is making a strong case to be the starter, with Felix the 3rd down back. Barber should be shopped around.



Ahh I hate when people say that. Barber is the only one on this team that has proven he can carry them for a season. Felix gets injured every other carry, so he is unreliable.
Two things Barber blows them away at is blocking and goal line running.
Personally, I don't want to trade any of them. Barber is the best best of the bunch, Felix is a play maker and scares the shit out of defenses when he is on the field, and Choice is a solid young player, who seems like he is a great guy.
Plus if you trade one and Felix gets hurt again (hes already rumored to be out the next two games) then you're left with one rb.

dirk4mvp
09-30-2009, 12:38 PM
He would do that in 2007 but he would drop the damn thing everytime down.

TO's play in Buffalo is telling of where he is at in his career.

Sure. Because having 38 td's while he was in Dallas proves he "would drop ther damn thing everytime down".