Right-Wing Conference Tells Activists To Get Ready For ‘Bloody Battle with Obama

[nuclearfm]

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/09/28/werthmann-nazism-socialism/

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Right-Wing Conference Tells Activists To Get Their Guns Ready For ‘Bloody Battle’ With Obama The Nazi

By Lee Fang on Sep 28th, 2009 at 4:50 pm

At the How To Take Back America Conference last weekend, conservative speaker Kitty Werthmann led a workshop called “How to recognize living under Nazis & Communists.” Announcing the panel in a column preceding the conference, talk show host Janet Porter gushed how Werthmann’s description of Austria in the 1930s is a “mirror to America” today — noting “They had Joseph Goebbels; we have Mark Lloyd, the diversity czar.” The room was packed over capacity to hear Werthmann, who grew up as a Christian in Austria and serves as Phyllis Schlafly’s Eagle Forum South Dakota President.

During her session, Werthmann went through a litany of examples of how President Obama is like Adolf Hitler. She noted that Hitler, who acted “like an American politician,” was “elected in a 100% Christian nation.” Although she failed to once mention Antisemitism or militarism, Werthmann explained how universal healthcare, an Equal Rights Amendment, and increased taxes were telltale signs of Nazism. Werthmann also warned the audience:

If we had our guns, we would have fought a bloody battle. So, keep your guns, and buy more guns, and buy ammunition. [...] Take back America. Don’t let them take the country into Socialism. And I refer again, Hitler’s party was National Socialism. [...] And that’s what we are having here right now, which is bordering on Marxism.

Werthmann noted that her Nazism speech is gaining popularity. She not only has delivered it to several tea parties, but has been asked by “a group of bankers” to address them this month.

Before the event, ThinkProgress asked Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN), one of several Republican members of Congress also speaking at the conference, to autograph Werthmann’s DVD about National Socialism. She happily obliged.

And then people wonder why census workers get murdered.

[DarrinS]

Kitty Werthmann?

[hope4dopes]

Mostly I wonder why you post the most asinine horseshit on the board, and why so often.

[MannyIsGod]

Mostly I wonder why you post the most asinine horseshit on the board, and why so often.

I wonder that about Darrin as well. I'm glad to have your support on the issue.

[hope4dopes]

I wonder that about Darrin as well. I'm glad to have your support on the issue.
fuck you Darrin's shit is far superior to this dolt's

[nuclearfm]

So, keep your guns, and buy more guns, and buy ammunition. [...] Take back America.

So they continue with their implied violence against America and it’s duly elected by the Majority President…

[George Gervin's Afro]

So they continue with their implied violence against America and it’s duly elected by the Majority President…

Obama's a socialist muslim so it's ok to do it to him..

[MannyIsGod]

Obama's a black socialist muslim so it's ok to do it to him..

[DarrinS]

Obama's a socialist muslim so it's ok to do it to him..


Manny's right. You must always point out that Obama is black. If you don't, you're probably a racist.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

I'm glad the race card is alive and well. "change" only when convenient. Carry on

[spursncowboys]

So buying guns and ammunition means you are going to kill the President?

[Viva Las Espuelas]

So buying guns and ammunition means you are going to kill the President?

Tell cry havoc his wish might come true

[boutons_deux]

These fucking bastards are bat-shit crazy, totally detached from reality.

Some more total craziness. These people are capable of saying anything.

http://www.alternet.org/belief/142911/at_the_values_voter_summit,_wing-nut_christian_right_plots_its_comeback?utm_source= feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=alternet

[Cry Havoc]

Meh. I seriously doubt we'll see a blood-filled revolution in the next decade. People are not nearly pissed off enough to actually start moving en masse, especially those who are just pissed that there's a democrat in office.

I think someday we could see a violent revolution in America, but that day is probably a couple of decades in the future.

[Winehole23]

fuck you Darrin's shit is far superior to this dolt's...is very similar. Both are politically tedious, shallow and shrill. Both jump to conclusions and disrespect posters personally. Both rely heavily on cliche, political cant and strawmen.

You just like Darrin because he flings happy horseshit from your own side of the fence. I tend to dislike both of them because they ruin the conversation.

My dislike of you, micca, is similarly founded.

[Winehole23]

What, Take Back America can't wait til 2012 to get rid of Obama? :lol

[Winehole23]

I hope they go for it. Whiny babies.

[LnGrrrR]

I'm just glad that the wingnuts Godwinned themselves from the very get-go.

[nuclearfm]

...is very similar. Both are politically tedious, shallow and shrill. Both jump to conclusions and disrespect posters personally. Both rely heavily on cliche, political cant and strawmen.

You just like Darrin because he flings happy horseshit from your own side of the fence. I tend to dislike both of them because they ruin the conversation.

My dislike of you, micca, is similarly founded.

My threads are mostly about news. I throw the dirt in them because I like panties being riled up, that's all. If you actually debate with idiots, it brings you down to their level. Good luck with that.

[Winehole23]

My threads are mostly about news. I throw the dirt in them because I like panties being riled up, that's all.You like being an ass? By all means, suit yourself.


If you actually debate with idiots, it brings you down to their level. Good luck with that.Not all of the idiots are as idiotic as you might think.

Of course, you'll give yourself practically no opportunity to find out otherwise. You'll just keep goading and riling and insulting posters personally. You'll probably find your own bias confirmed in the kerfuffles your own cavalier treatment of posters tends to provoke.

Good luck with that.

[nuclearfm]

You like being an ass? By all means, suit yourself.

Not all of the idiots are as idiotic as you might think.

Of course, you'll give yourself practically no opportunity to find out otherwise. You'll just keep goading and riling and insulting posters personally. You'll probably find your own bias confirmed in the kerfuffles your own cavalier treatment of posters tends to provoke.

Good luck with that.

Oh I do, you can see me debating WC, Heath ledger about nuclear threats in another thread. All it does is show how much of idiotic idealogues they are. You give to much hope to the hopeless. It's sort of like voting for George W Bush ..twice.

[Winehole23]

There are certain notorious posters whose general obliviousness and perversity verges on the provocative. I have allowed it to make me crazy and lose my composure at times.

I hate to see it happen to others.

[Wild Cobra]

Funny how everyone is arguing about everything but the video in the first posting...

What a derailed thread. Not a single response that appears to address post #1.

[ChumpDumper]

Funny how everyone is arguing about everything but the video in the first posting...

What a derailed thread. Not a single response that appears to address post #1.
If we had our guns, we would have fought a bloody battle. So, keep your guns, and buy more guns, and buy ammunition. Wait, they already had guns and didn't fight a bloody battle, but should keep their guns that they didn't use to fight a bloody battle. I guess they just didn't have any ammunition the first time around.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Barack Hussein Obama.
Mmmm. Mmmm. Mmmmm

[George Gervin's Afro]

I'm glad the race card is alive and well. "change" only when convenient. Carry on

Im glad homeland security is looking out for right wing terrorists

[Wild Cobra]

Im glad homeland security is looking out for right wing terrorists
What has me worried is that they are worried about people who arm themselves legally.

Is the government planning to throw away the constitution?

I took the video as a warning not to allow guns taken away like they did in Germany. The second amendment protects the rest of the constitution.

I say again, these democrats in power are following in the footsteps of pre WWII Germany. Let's hope they don't continue.

[boutons_deux]

"they are worried about people who arm themselves legally"

being armed legally and using the arms illegally are different, please note.

"government planning to throw away the constitution"

yes, of course. A provocative and realistic prospect, as well as easy to achieve in practice.

"democrats in power are following in the footsteps of pre WWII Germany"

another very provocative and realistic ... wing-nug scare-mongering check box. Congrats, you usuall hit every box, like a robot.

[NoOptionB]

Good Golly! I should have stocked up before this ammo shortage! :bang

[boutons_deux]

The NRA scare-mongering and 2nd Amendment is always about stimulating guns/ammo sales, NOT about actual guns rights. ALWAYS follow the money, and the NRA collects $millions from gun mfrs and dealers.

That's the business, NRA scare-mongers the paranoid gun-nuts, dealers/mfrs pocket the sales and in turn contribute to NRA.

[SpurNation]

Don't worry...be Happy

[Cry Havoc]

Funny how everyone is arguing about everything but the video in the first posting...

What a derailed thread. Not a single response that appears to address post #1.


Meh. I seriously doubt we'll see a blood-filled revolution in the next decade. People are not nearly pissed off enough to actually start moving en masse, especially those who are just pissed that there's a democrat in office.

I think someday we could see a violent revolution in America, but that day is probably a couple of decades in the future.

Ahem. What were you saying?

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Im glad homeland security is looking out for right wing terrorists
like the g20 protestors? those ones?

[ChumpDumper]

like the g20 protestors? those ones?Who did they kill?

[Supergirl]

""Although she failed to once mention Antisemitism or militarism, Werthmann explained how universal healthcare, an Equal Rights Amendment, and increased taxes were telltale signs of Nazism."

LOL. Right, because *that* was why people were concerned about the Nazis. Those pesky little concentration camps and Jewish race laws weren't the problem...

Oh, and how can a biracial president be a "Nazi" whose historical meaning is associated with "racial purity"?

If these douchebags were any stupider they would be braindead.

[Wild Cobra]

The NRA scare-mongering and 2nd Amendment is always about stimulating guns/ammo sales, NOT about actual guns rights. ALWAYS follow the money, and the NRA collects $millions from gun mfrs and dealers.

When you follow the money, you find it's from people wanting to protect the second amendment from people like you.

Show me some evidence that they do not do what their doners fund them for. Maybe show me some financial records that show their money is spent for what it's intended for.

You just don't like people who believe in freedom I think. Or maybe, you prefer an authoritarian government that a free one. At least what they do doesn't disrespect the intent of the constitution like so many liberal 501(c) groups do.

[boutons_deux]

Another batshit crazy, who's a hero to batshit crazy NRA, hunters, gun nuts:

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2007/08/24/ted-nugent-threatens-to-kill-barack-obama-and-hillary-clinton-during-vicious-onstage-rant/

http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/5/9/3/4/16094395-16094398-slarge.jpg

[boutons_deux]

WC, GFY. You're as batshit crazy and detached from reality as the typical right-wing nut jobs who call a black man an Aryan supremacist Nazi.

[Wild Cobra]

like the g20 protestors? those ones?
I know.

Main stream news reports talk about how peaceful these protesters were. Was it 190 arrested? Then the same news outlets that called them peaceful, called the 9/12 crowd worse than the G20 protesters, but nothing like that occurred. I believe there were zero incidents the police stepped in for, I believe there were zero arrests, and on top of that... the mall was left clean. That never happens after environmentalists protest!

[Winehole23]

Dirty fucking hippies.

[Wild Cobra]

LOL. Right, because *that* was why people were concerned about the Nazis. Those pesky little concentration camps and Jewish race laws weren't the problem...

What happens can be attributed to a paraphrased quote I think from Margret Thatcher:

The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money

The government gives more and more to the people at the expense of those making it. The tax payers them move or find ways not to pay, or even retire eqarly. Now you have programs in place that cannot be paid for. The treasury print more and more money, hyperinflation occurs, ant some large effort needs to be done. In the case of Hitler, part of the solution was extermination the Jews.

What would our leaders choose?

The actual quote was, from a 2/5/76 interview (http://www.margaretthatcher.org/speeches/displaydocument.asp?docid=102953)":

I would much prefer to bring them down as soon as possible. I think they've made the biggest financial mess that any government's ever made in this country for a very long time, and Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them. They then start to nationalise everything, and people just do not like more and more nationalisation, and they're now trying to control everything by other means. They're progressively reducing the choice available to ordinary people. Look at the trouble now we're having with choice of schools. Of course parents want a say in the kind of education their children have. Look at the William Tyndall School—an example where the parents finally rebelled. Of course they did. These schools are financed by taxpayers' money, but the choice to parents is being reduced.

[nuclearfm]

The government gives more and more to the people at the expense of those making it. The tax payers them move or find ways not to pay, or even retire eqarly. Now you have programs in place that cannot be paid for. The treasury print more and more money, hyperinflation occurs, ant some large effort needs to be done. In the case of Hitler, part of the solution was extermination the Jews.



:lol You're such a moron. Honestly. Exterminating the Jews was the solution to hyperinflation? That's probably the only time someone came to that sole conclusion that wasn't a racist (good faith assumption). He exterminated pretty much anything that he didn't like. I don't think hyperinflation is the silver bullet here.

[Wild Cobra]

He exterminated pretty much anything that he didn't like. I don't think hyperinflation is the silver bullet here.
This is true. He got out of hand in many ways. He was once a good socialist however. I believe he knew there was a severe financial crisis that couldn't be dealt with other than elimination the burden. He had "the master race" which could have been a way to select who get jobs, then all others, who became only a burden on the social system. This is perfectly feasible for someone to want to protect his own culture over others.

I don't have all the answers. Allot of questions myself. Facts can be tricky things, especially after so many years.

Some say the was suffering from stage III syphilis, but that comes from his doctor's suspicions in his journal. There is no solid evidence I know of, but I thing it's highly probable. Such a thing could easily take a dislike of something and twist it to hatred if it, because of neuro-syphilis. I believe he saw the answer to rebuilding his country as stealing others wealth of whom he didn't like, and extermination others he didn't like to take them off the 'welfare' rolls.

[nuclearfm]

This is true. He got out of hand in many ways. He was once a good socialist however. I believe he knew there was a severe financial crisis that couldn't be dealt with other than elimination the burden. He had "the master race" which could have been a way to select who get jobs, then all others, who became only a burden on the social system. This is perfectly feasible for someone to want to protect his own culture over others.

I don't have all the answers. Allot of questions myself. Facts can be tricky things, especially after so many years.

Some say the was suffering from stage III syphilis, but that comes from his doctor's suspicions in his journal. There is no solid evidence I know of, but I thing it's highly probable. Such a thing could easily take a dislike of something and twist it to hatred if it, because of neuro-syphilis. I believe he saw the answer to rebuilding his country as stealing others wealth of whom he didn't like, and extermination others he didn't like to take them off the 'welfare' rolls.

If you've ever read Mein Kampff, you can clearly see he had hatred of all non-aryans, especially Jews farely early in life. His socialism is rooted in nationalism first. In fact, much of his writing insults leftist type ideology (especially liberals).

[Wild Cobra]

If you've ever read Mein Kampff, you can clearly see he had hatred of all non-aryans, especially Jews farely early in life. His socialism is rooted in nationalism first. In fact, much of his writing insults leftist type ideology (especially liberals).
If that's the case, he created his own problems with the Jews. Nationalism created a reliance on government. Nationalism is a form of socialism. Obama is trying to nationalize the USA.

What happens when we run out of tax payers?

[George Gervin's Afro]

If that's the case, he created his own problems with the Jews. Nationalism created a reliance on government. Nationalism is a form of socialism. Obama is trying to nationalize the USA.

What happens when we run out of tax payers?

Is this one of those issues where you connected the dots?

[nuclearfm]

What happens when we run out of tax payers?

We make them slaves for black people.

[Wild Cobra]

We make them slaves for black people.

No thanks.

I don't need a slave. I'm not lazy.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Oh, and how can a biracial president be a "Nazi" whose historical meaning is associated with "racial purity"?


:lmao

you do know that hitler was for the advancement of the aryan race. fair-skinned, blonde-haired, blue-eyed individuals with refined facial features.

http://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/images/adolf-hitler.jpg

purity, indeed.

:rolleyes

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Who did they kill?
about as many as these supposed right wing terrorists.

[nuclearfm]

When you follow the money, you find it's from people wanting to protect the second amendment from people like you.

Show me some evidence that they do not do what their doners fund them for. Maybe show me some financial records that show their money is spent for what it's intended for.

You just don't like people who believe in freedom I think. Or maybe, you prefer an authoritarian government that a free one. At least what they do doesn't disrespect the intent of the constitution like so many liberal 501(c) groups do.


What the hell man? You don't know what your talking about. Why don't you ask Ron Paul how the NRA treats people who flag the corporate interests of Gun Manufacturers. Ron Paul, Mr. liberty pro-gun of all people was rewarded with a nice shitty NRA rating.

Quite honestly, there isn't a single post you make that isn't less than half stupid.

[spursncowboys]

So, are they clinging to their guns and religion?

[ChumpDumper]

about as many as these supposed right wing terrorists.You'll have to link them then, because there have already been documented killings by right wing terrorists this year.

[Wild Cobra]

What the hell man? You don't know what your talking about. Why don't you ask Ron Paul how the NRA treats people who flag the corporate interests of Gun Manufacturers. Ron Paul, Mr. liberty pro-gun of all people was rewarded with a nice shitty NRA rating.

Quite honestly, there isn't a single post you make that isn't less than half stupid.
Can you refute what I say rather than that blanket statement? Have a link by chance?

[nuclearfm]

Can you refute what I say rather than that blanket statement? Have a link by chance?


http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/paul_ron_nra_endorses_gun_control_democrat.htm

http://www.robbooth.net/nravsrp.shtml

there are much more on this. Follow the damn money.

[Wild Cobra]

http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/paul_ron_nra_endorses_gun_control_democrat.htm

http://www.robbooth.net/nravsrp.shtml

there are much more on this. Follow the damn money.
I didn't read anything compelling in those two articles. I searched the NRA site, and couldn't verify what they claim.

Will you please source me such claims from the NRA.