Demon's Souls

[kbrury]

Well its coming out soon and I'm definitely getting it. My friend has a copy of the JP version which already has English on it, so I tried and it is difficult but rewarding once you get some of the quests done. If you like adventure RPGs but like a challenge this is for you also it has multiplayer but I havn't had the chance to try it yet.

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[DarkReign]

Ive been following this game for quite some time.

I heard through multiple gaming outlets that it is incredibly difficult.

[kbrury]

It is especially in the beginning but still very fun though you will die in this game more then any other you have played probably.

[kbrury]

Got a 9.0 on Gamespot today the only negative it got if you could even call it one is that it is very difficult which will drive some players away. Just tried the multiplayer today and it is very fun.

[Shaolin-Style]

Funny enough this is the game that's making me say "I want a ps3 now" and seriously made me consider buying one to play it.

[kbrury]

Well I can definitely say its one of the best RPGs I have ever played.

[jman3000]

Looks good. I wouldn't buy a PS3 for it... but it looks pretty cool.

[DarkReign]

Picking my copy up today.

Too many games!

Currently playing:

1) Last Remnant (yes, still)
2) Shadow Complex
3) Risen (new RPG)
4) KOTOR (first one)
5) Wii Sports Disc Golf (yeah, laugh it up)


...now Demon's Souls?

ugh

[kbrury]

Picking my copy up today.

Too many games!

Currently playing:

1) Last Remnant (yes, still)
2) Shadow Complex
3) Risen (new RPG)
4) KOTOR (first one)
5) Wii Sports Disc Golf (yeah, laugh it up)


...now Demon's Souls?

ugh

Don't get too addicted to it lol, I just got done with my third boss today with a couple of other players.

[Cry Havoc]

Okay so I didn't really pay much attention to this game at first...


But after reading reviews, I'm absolutely getting it. It sounds incredible. It just jumped onto my must have list along with Modern Warfare 2 and Uncharted 2.

[Fermixalot]

Had not heard a word about this game up until this thread, but it sounds and looks amazing.

Gonna have to pick this one up soon.

[kbrury]

Glad you guys are interested in it.

Right now I have to say Im frustrated with the game but in a way where I can't put the controller down lol.

[IronMexican]

CH, is Borderlands not on you're must haves? I really don't dig the Cell Shaded look, honestly.

[Cry Havoc]

CH, is Borderlands not on you're must haves? I really don't dig the Cell Shaded look, honestly.

I'm holding out on it. Honestly it isn't at this point because I haven't heard anything about how good the game actually is. It does look like it has a lot of potential, but it's going to really have to be mind-blowing to make it onto my must buy list, considering Uncharted 2 and Demon's Souls are definitely must buys, and we are on the eve of God of War 3, MW2, Diablo III, Left 4 Dead 2, and soon thereafter Starcraft II and Gran Turismo 5. And I still have to finish Mass Effect and play through the Broken Steel and Point Lookout expansions of Fallout 3, and I also just picked up Mount & Blade, which is pretty impressive. To say nothing of the fact that I'm completely addicted to the (completely free) League of Legends right now.

Yikes. :lol

[kbrury]

Ive been playing M&B also I tried a couple mods SOD and POP its fun and very time consuming lol.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

A game that actually penalizes you for dying?

And yes, the urge to throw the controller may rear its ugly head while playing this game, especially early on. However, stalking some poor schlub and hitting him hard while he's in the middle of a tough fight is nothing but sugary goodness.

Probably one of the best games I've played in years and one of the few I'll actually run through again.

[kbrury]

A game that actually penalizes you for dying?

And yes, the urge to throw the controller may rear its ugly head while playing this game, especially early on. However, stalking some poor schlub and hitting him hard while he's in the middle of a tough fight is nothing but sugary goodness.

Probably one of the best games I've played in years and one of the few I'll actually run through again.

+1 did you already go through the the black phantom boss fight? It blew my mind lol.

[Cry Havoc]

Just bought this game today. It's $30 new at Gamestop right now.

I'm already hooked. One more game that I have to play through.

But it's freaking awesome.

[balli]

Just bought this game today.
Seriously? Demon's Souls is the only PS3 exclusive that I envy. Surprised you haven't played through that shit twice already. Good luck.

[redzero]

I stopped playing it a few months ago. I can't go back now since my PS3 decided to stop recognizing discs.

The funny thing is that I did most of my playing during a period when the developers made it easier. I can't possibly imagine how frustrating it would be to play the game with pure black worlds.

[Cry Havoc]

Seriously? Demon's Souls is the only PS3 exclusive that I envy. Surprised you haven't played through that shit twice already. Good luck.

Eh, there have been so many good games out lately that I haven't had a chance to pick up some even A+ list titles. I haven't played Uncharted II, either. But yes, Demon's Souls is worth owning a PS3 for by itself, if what the reviews say are true... and they have been thus far. 4 hours on it today. :wow


The funny thing is that I did most of my playing during a period when the developers made it easier. I can't possibly imagine how frustrating it would be to play the game with pure black worlds.

So far through world 1 (the small king), the game is actually much easier than I was expecting. I have died 5-6 times, but they were mostly due to stupidity, inexperience, or that fucking dragon. 4 of my deaths were to the dragon, the other two were just bad play by me. I seriously doubt the worlds are completely black right now.

[redzero]

So far through world 1 (the small king), the game is actually much easier than I was expecting. I have died 5-6 times, but they were mostly due to stupidity, inexperience, or that fucking dragon. 4 of my deaths were to the dragon, the other two were just bad play by me. I seriously doubt the worlds are completely black right now.

World 1? That is easy.

You are going to get your ass kicked later on.

[Cry Havoc]

World 1? That is easy.

You are going to get your ass kicked later on.

:lmao

Looking forward to it.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Small world. Bought that just yesterday haven't had a chance to play it just yet. Looking forward to the fight of my gaming life.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

So far this game has the goods. It's a blast to play but the total lack of a pause button is a serious pain in the ass some times.

[Cry Havoc]

So far this game has the goods. It's a blast to play but the total lack of a pause button is a serious pain in the ass some times.

I think it's awesome. You just have to make sure you're safe before you do something complicated, just like real-life. Adds a lot of tension. :lol Nice to see a game that doesn't compromise on difficulty OR control scheme.

My only niggling complaint is the lock on camera is flighty sometimes. I've died once or twice due to that.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

I've no problem with the game not pausing when you open up the menu to fiddle with equipment or anything like that. I actually like that layer of it, but I've died a couple of times because of things like my dog diving on my lap right in the middle of a fight. Not being able to take ten seconds to answer a ringing phone or something like feels like one area where the developers went out of their way to cross the line between challenging and frustrating.

[Cry Havoc]

If this isn't a measure of the greatness that is Demon's Souls, I don't know what is:

My girlfriend LOVES this game. Not playing it, as she would not make it out of the first area of the first dungeon. But she loves watching it, because the presentation makes it feel very real. More so than a movie, even. I think that says a lot for the production value and the ability of the game to draw you in.

[Cry Havoc]

If this isn't a measure of the greatness that is Demon's Souls, I don't know what is:

My girlfriend LOVES this game. Not playing it, as she would not make it out of the first area of the first dungeon. But she loves watching it, because the presentation makes it feel very real. More so than a movie, even. I think that says a lot for the production value and the ability of the game to draw you in.

[MannyIsGod]

Fuck this game. God damn it. Seriously fuck this game.

[Sense]

Fuck this game. God damn it. Seriously fuck this game.

:lol

[MannyIsGod]

I just started. Really frustrating game to start.

[Sense]

My brother owns this game... I don't have any games for the PS3 other than fight night 4 and madden 11, so I asked him to let me borrow a couple of games, Demon's Souls was not one of them :lol I've heard it's too difficult

[IronMaxipad]

Demon's Souls is fucking awesome. It's hard as fuck though you gotta be patient don't try and rush through it or play it like a hack and slash. Once you get the hang of it, it gets a bit easier. You'll still die a lot though.. :lol

[Chomag]

It's not "too" hard once you learn the enemies movements but I would definitely say it punishes the shit out of you if you make a mistake.

I have been playing it off and on for the past 2 years and I still get the urge to get abused by it to this day :lol

If Skyrim wasn't coming out I would probably be more hyped up for Dark Souls but Skyrim is going to hog up all my spare time I think. I'll probably get it later though.

[xellos88330]

This game absolutely ruled. It was the first game in a while that I had some difficulty with. The challenge was welcomed, the frustration was great, but at the end of the day, I felt extremely satisfied when I would just get to the next save point.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

:lol Manny. I remember the first hour or so was such a pain in the ass. Probably most of the first 8 hours or so really. Don't know how my controller didn't end up in a million pieces or embedded in the TV screen.

I still stand by my assessment that a complete lack of a pause button is totally bullshit. Otherwise this was a hell of a game. Frustrating, but in an oddly fair sort of way. You actually feel like you improve at the game as you go deeper and finally beating it really feels like an accomplishment. Haven't felt that way about a game since probably the old NES days, so being able to take me that far back in my gamer psyche is pretty cool. At the same time I think it's time for me to put it up for bids on ebay or craigslist because even after beating it the better part of a year ago I really can't see me putting myself through all that again.

[z0sa]

One of the best games evar

[hater]

so I downloaded this game and played a few days on it.

fucking bad ass. The atmosphere takes it to skyrim levels IMO. But its more of a true dungeon game and the RPG aspects of it are some of the best ever, IMO even better than Skyrim.

this is the first game I had to do some research in order to beat the first couple of levels. Without the internet research I would have given up on it.

killed the first 2 bosses and they were kinda disappointing, but that's good cause I dont' think I could take losing to a boss 2 or 3 times in a row yet.

[z0sa]

Demon's Souls and Dark Soul 1/2 are the most innovative action/RPGs in years, maybe decades. Personally Dark Souls 1 (haven't played 2 but watched it) ranks in my top 5 all-time.

[hater]

Demon's Souls and Dark Soul 1/2 are the most innovative action/RPGs in years, maybe decades. Personally Dark Souls 1 (haven't played 2 but watched it) ranks in my top 5 all-time.

agree

I don't remember putting so much thought and research into my character build. I even have a list of equipment I need to find throughtout the levels already. for example, right now looking for cresent stones to have my mage's MP autoregenerate.

[IronMexican]

This sounds dumb, but these games are really taxing on me. The frustration can sometimes drag me.

[The Reckoning]

yeah I beat Dark Souls and after that I can't pick up one of these games. Bought Bloodborne and got to my first death spam area and I just don't have the patience anymore to go through it all again.

[z0sa]

This sounds dumb, but these games are really taxing on me. The frustration can sometimes drag me.

Oh yeah, that's one of those give and take things of these games (D'S, DS1/2). I like it though, because it makes you accountable for your actions, without straight up shoving you vs OP situation.. they're well balanced. When you fuck up, you are limited to blaming the control scheme and yourself.

[IronMexican]

I've been playing Dark Souls 2 on the ps4. I forgot how awesome the Souls series is. Hope From isn't abandoning it.

[redzero]

I've been playing Dark Souls 2 on the ps4. I forgot how awesome the Souls series is. Hope From isn't abandoning it.

I told you to get Bloodborne, you fuck!

[IronMexican]

>>>>bloodborne


Maybe when there is dlc and a goty edition

[hater]

fuck this game. fuck goddam shit

why the fuck do I only get 1 life and then gotta play the fucking level as a zombie with half the hit points??????

:pctoss

[IronMexican]

Half?

Did you get cursed or something? And as far as I can tell, that's only in part 1 where being Cursed sucked a ton of dick.

I was running through this game till I hit the Iron Keep. Just finished that area and now it's onto Shaded Woods.

[redzero]

Demon's Souls took off half your health when you died. I think. I haven't played the game in years.

[baseline bum]

Fuck level 5-2. Most of this game isn't too hard but that one is a bitch, especially having to fight those big faggots while stuck in the poison water that keeps you from rolling.

[baseline bum]

But yes, Demon's Souls is worth owning a PS3 for by itself, if what the reviews say are true... and they have been thus far. 4 hours on it today. :wow


If you thought a PS3 was worth buying just for Demon's Souls then a PS4 is worth trading in a kidney for Bloodborne. Having just finished Demon's Souls, I'd say the game is really good, probably 8.5/10. But Bloodborne is 10/10. Besides graphics, Bloodborne is better because:

(1) The gothic atmosphere in Bloodborne is so much more immersive. Just the way everyone treats you like a piece of shit when they laugh at you for being stuck outside on the night of a hunt is hilarious. Then the psychopaths on the street you're fighting. I'm usually not too into steampunk but man Bloodborne nails it.

(2) There are no ranged weapons, so no cheesing with magic or arrows. So no cheap bossfights like the two dragons in the Boletarian Palace. You do have pistols/shotguns, but you can't use them like the ranged weapons in Demon's Souls. They're way too weak for that. You use them to parry and go in for the critical. And damn criticals are brutal in Bloodborne.

(3) There are no shields, so you have to either dodge or parry.

(4) Bloodborne encourages very aggressive play through allowing you to recover some health back by hitting the enemy back after getting hit.

(5) The bosses are harder in Bloodborne, and in The Old Hunters DLC they're way harder. Eg, the Blood Starved Beast is one of the easier bosses in Bloodborne, but I thought it was significantly harder than every boss in Demon's Souls other than the two gargoyles on the bridge in 3-2.

(6) Bloodborne seems about twice as long if you count the 10 hour DLC.

(7) No annoying light/dark world events. That just pisses me off in Demon's Souls to not be able to get to parts of the world because I got killed once in human form.

(8) Better control too. I know it's 8 years old, but the control in Demon's Souls definitely feels slower than in Bloodborne.

The actress who played the Maiden in Black also returns in a similar role in Bloodborne.

[baseline bum]

Demon's Souls took off half your health when you died. I think. I haven't played the game in years.

Does Dark Souls do that shit too?

[baseline bum]

The only boss fight in Demon's Souls that seemed that bad was the two gargoyles in 3-2, and that's mostly because you're on a narrow bridge. The next hardest boss was probably the one in the tutorial who sits on you. :lol

So easy to do backstabs in this game though.

[Cry Havoc]

If you thought a PS3 was worth buying just for Demon's Souls then a PS4 is worth trading in a kidney for Bloodborne. Having just finished Demon's Souls, I'd say the game is really good, probably 8.5/10. But Bloodborne is 10/10. Besides graphics, Bloodborne is better because:

(1) The gothic atmosphere in Bloodborne is so much more immersive. Just the way everyone treats you like a piece of shit when they laugh at you for being stuck outside on the night of a hunt is hilarious. Then the psychopaths on the street you're fighting. I'm usually not too into steampunk but man Bloodborne nails it.

(2) There are no ranged weapons, so no cheesing with magic or arrows. So no cheap bossfights like the two dragons in the Boletarian Palace. You do have pistols/shotguns, but you can't use them like the ranged weapons in Demon's Souls. They're way too weak for that. You use them to parry and go in for the critical. And damn criticals are brutal in Bloodborne.

(3) There are no shields, so you have to either dodge or parry.

(4) Bloodborne encourages very aggressive play through allowing you to recover some health back by hitting the enemy back after getting hit.

(5) The bosses are harder in Bloodborne, and in The Old Hunters DLC they're way harder. Eg, the Blood Starved Beast is one of the easier bosses in Bloodborne, but I thought it was significantly harder than every boss in Demon's Souls other than the two gargoyles on the bridge in 3-2.

(6) Bloodborne seems about twice as long if you count the 10 hour DLC.

(7) No annoying light/dark world events. That just pisses me off in Demon's Souls to not be able to get to parts of the world because I got killed once in human form.

(8) Better control too. I know it's 8 years old, but the control in Demon's Souls definitely feels slower than in Bloodborne.

The actress who played the Maiden in Black also returns in a similar role in Bloodborne.

How do you compare BB to the modern Dark Souls games? III was one of my favorite games of all-time, I think. I never got around to beating DS. =\

[Cry Havoc]

Does Dark Souls do that shit too?

It's not really half. If you aren't in corporeal form, you have less health to work with. It's not really too crippling, it just means that when you aren't a ghost you have to guard your life more carefully. Makes things a bit more tense than usual.

[baseline bum]

How do you compare BB to the modern Dark Souls games? III was one of my favorite games of all-time, I think. I never got around to beating DS. =\

I haven't played a whole lot of Dark Souls III. Obviously DS III is better graphically since you can play it at 60 fps on PC at 1080p with an i5 and a GTX 970/R9 290/GTX 1060/RX 480 or better, while on PS4 Bloodborne is 30 fps at 1080p. I didn't get very far in Dark Souls III because I think Fallout 4 came out right when I first started playing it. I enjoyed the beginning of DS III, but I can't say I was blown away by it the way I was Bloodborne. If you don't take me word for it though, ask redzero who is a huge Souls fan. I think he ranks Bloodborne as the best in the series. I can't remember if he had DS III or DS I as the second best. I do consider Bloodborne one of the seven perfect games I have ever played since I started gaming in the early 1980s. It's hands down the best game I have played since Skyrim six years ago. I'm hoping like hell the rumors of From Software releasing a Bloodborne 2 are true. I guess we'll find out at E3. Man I hope when PS5 comes out next decade they release a 60 fps remaster like they did for PS4 with The Last of Us, Uncharted 1-3, and God of War III.

[apalisoc_9]

I haven't played a whole lot of Dark Souls III. Obviously DS III is better graphically since you can play it at 60 fps on PC at 1080p with an i5 and a GTX 970/R9 290/GTX 1060/RX 480 or better, while on PS4 Bloodborne is 30 fps at 1080p. I didn't get very far in Dark Souls III because I think Fallout 4 came out right when I first started playing it. I enjoyed the beginning of DS III, but I can't say I was blown away by it the way I was Bloodborne. If you don't take me word for it though, ask redzero who is a huge Souls fan. I think he ranks Bloodborne as the best in the series. I can't remember if he had DS III or DS I as the second best. I do consider Bloodborne one of the seven perfect games I have ever played since I started gaming in the early 1980s. It's hands down the best game I have played since Skyrim six years ago. I'm hoping like hell the rumors of From Software releasing a Bloodborne 2 are true. I guess we'll find out at E3. Man I hope when PS5 comes out next decade they release a 60 fps remaster like they did for PS4 with The Last of Us, Uncharted 1-3, and God of War III.

A PS5 launch release of Horizon Zero Dawn 2, and Bloodborne 2.. might as well say goodbye to Xbox. :lol

Heck Nier has garnered so many fans too and I dont even like that game. :lol

Not to mention Ratchet and Clank can be the teen friendly game, and they can get Jack amd daxter again.

Not sure what's stopping Sony from just killing Xbox.

[baseline bum]

A PS5 launch release of Horizon Zero Dawn 2, and Bloodborne 2.. might as well say goodbye to Xbox. :lol

Heck Nier has garnered so many fans too and I dont even like that game. :lol

Not to mention Ratchet and Clank can be the teen friendly game, and they can get Jack amd daxter again.

Not sure what's stopping Sony from just killing Xbox.

Fuck that shit, I want Bloodborne 2 this year or next man.

[baseline bum]

How do you compare BB to the modern Dark Souls games? III was one of my favorite games of all-time, I think. I never got around to beating DS. =\

Seriously, watch these two videos and tell me you don't want to play this game :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gExoq4CGDHo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiGPTI06fn8

[apalisoc_9]

Fuck that shit, I want Bloodborne 2 this year or next man.

They've had 3 souls game in like 4 years IIRC. They're probably going to take a break. I shit a lot on japanese developers but 95% of gameplay innovation comes from that weird ass country.

Wouldn't surprise me if they come up with a way to improve bloodbrone gameplay even more.

Just look at all the games that have tried to copy the souls series. :lol...

Absolver being the next game and those goons at for honour wont admit it, but they totally took massive inspiration from the souls series.

[baseline bum]

Man Dark Souls 1 can be really cheap sometimes. Like you get killed because of the camera when you can't see what you're doing because of an archway or a tree or something like that. Or you get in a fight and there are little pieces of rubble blocking your movement so you get trapped in areas. It's a good game and I like it better than Demon's Souls (which was much much easier IMO) but the cheap deaths you get sometimes make it more frustrating to play than Bloodborne (where are your deaths usually come from having a stupid strategy or being undisciplined).

[IronMexican]

Yeah, these games can be infuriating at times. Back into DSII.

[baseline bum]

Yeah, these games can be infuriating at times. Back into DSII.

I'm curious what you didn't like about Bloodborne vs the Dark Souls series. Was it the setting? Or the fact the combat is at a lot different pace? Especially with the health regen system that forces you into really aggressive play? Or that not having shields changed things up so much? I always feel kind of lazy in Dark Souls vs Bloodborne in that I can just raise my shield up and try to circle for the backstab, which seems worlds harder in Bloodborne without shields. I find myself never doing parry-riposte in Dark Souls while it's an absolute critical move in Bloodborne. I guess the character building and development is a little dumbed down in Bloodborne vs the Souls games since Bloodborne pretty much eliminated ranged combat and magic. I can't say I'm much of a fan of magic in the Souls series though. When I played Demon's Souls I did a magic based build since I ended up getting a pretty powerful weapon that scaled well with magic real early on (the crescent falchion), and it made the game feel way too easy IMO.

[IronMexican]

It could be that I was just younger when I got into Souls, and by the time BB came out, I had a kid and not enough time to really learn how to play, or read into the lore.

But you're right, I always do the sword and board build, which is probably another reason I prefer DS.

[baseline bum]

It could be that I was just younger when I got into Souls, and by the time BB came out, I had a kid and not enough time to really learn how to play, or read into the lore.

But you're right, I always do the sword and board build, which is probably another reason I prefer DS.

Makes sense. Funny, I'm playing Dark Souls 1 with almost a Bloodborne kind of build. Eg with really lightweight armor (I use those red robes that have curse resistance, I forgot what they're called) so I can keep my equip load lower than 25% and thus do full speed rolls. But I do use a shield with a lot of magic resistance (crest shield I think), so not fully a BB build. :lol

Amazing game. I hope DS2 and DS3 are even half as good as DS1.

[IronMexican]

If you get DS2 on the PS4, it is an amazing game.

[IronMexican]

I do typical super heavy build with a sword that meets in the middle of power, and speed.

[baseline bum]

I do typical super heavy build with a sword that meets in the middle of power, and speed.

Maybe when I play DS2 I'll do a build like that just for a change of pace. I usually prefer agility builds in RPGs but a heavy build might make sense so it doesn't feel like I'm playing the same game again.

[redzero]

Dark Souls 2's level design is ass and the graphics are worse than its predecessor's, for some reason. Lot's of models look muddy and ugly. It's a good, but it's the worst Soulsborne game. The DLC is pretty good. I never played Scholars of the First Sin, but it's got all the DLC and better graphics (allegedly).