Why do Arabs/Turks dislike Kurds?

[SpurNation]

Honest question. Don't know the answer. Some input would be nice to hear. Why are the Kurds so disliked by the rest of the Muslim people of that area.

Also...after all they have done to help the U.S. in the operations of Iraq...if we pull out...will they be victomized again?

[exstatic]

Honest question. Don't know the answer. Some input would be nice to hear. Why are the Kurds so disliked by the rest of the Muslim people of that area.

Also...after all they have done to help the U.S. in the operations of Iraq...if we pull out...will they be victomized again?

If you're in the Middle East, and you're not of my tribe, religion or ethnic group, I hate you.

[spurster]

Probably something that happened in the 10th century.

[TDMVPDPOY]

something todo with 72 virgins...so what happen if ur gay?

[EVAY]

If you're in the Middle East, and you're not of my tribe, religion or ethnic group, I hate you.

I think this pretty much sums it up.

[Winehole23]

Honest question. Don't know the answer. Some input would be nice to hear. Why are the Kurds so disliked by the rest of the Muslim people of that area.They've been a nation without their own country for a very long time. Kind of like Jews. Quasi-autonomous in northern Iraq since 1991, when the US started enforcing the no-fly zones.


Also...after all they have done to help the U.S. in the operations of Iraq...if we pull out...will they be victimized again?Between Turkey, Iran and who can say?


Probably something that happened in the 10th century. Why so modest? I read the wiki too:


In the seventh century, the Arabs possessed the castles and fortifications of the Kurds. The conquest of the cities of Sharazor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharazor) and Aradbaz took place in 643 CE. In 846 CE, one of the leaders of the Kurds in Mosul revolted against the Caliph Al Mo'tasam who sent the commander Aitakh to combat against him. Aitakh won this war and killed many of the Kurds. The Kurds revolted again in 903 CE, during the period of Almoqtadar. Eventually Arabs conquered the Kurdish regions and gradually converted the majority of Kurds to Islam. In the second half of the tenth century, the Kurdish area was shared among four big Kurdish principalities. In the north were the Shaddadid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaddadid) (951–1174) in parts of present-day Armenia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenia) and Arran (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arran_%28Caucasus%29), and the Rawadid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rawadid) (955–1221) in Tabriz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabriz) and Maragheh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maragheh). In the east were the Hasanwayhids (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasanwayhid) (959–1015) and the Annazid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annazid) (990–1117) in Kermanshah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kermanshah), Dinawar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinawar) and Khanaqin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khanaqin). In the west were the Marwanid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marwanid) (990–1096) of Diyarbakır (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diyarbak%C4%B1r). After these, the Ayyubid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayyubid) (1171–1250) of Syria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria) and the Ardalan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ardalan) dynasty (14th century to 1867) were established in present-day Khanaqin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khanaqin), Kirkuk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirkuk) and Sinne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinne).


According to CIA Factbook (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_Factbook), Kurds formed approximately 18% of the population in Turkey (approximately 14 million) in 2008.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_people#cite_note-ciaturkey-1) In 1980 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980), ethnologue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnologue) estimated the number of Kurdish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_language)-speakers in Turkey at around five million,[42] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_people#cite_note-41) when the country's population stood at 44 million.[43] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_people#cite_note-42) Kurds form the largest minority group in Turkey, and they have posed the most serious and persistent challenge to the official image of a homogeneous society. During the 1930s and 1940s, the government had disguised the presence of the Kurds statistically by categorizing them as Mountain Turks. This classification was changed to the new euphemism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euphemism) of Eastern Turk in 1980.[44] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_people#cite_note-43)

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_people#cite_note-43)
Several large scale Kurdish revolts in 1925 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1925), 1930 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1930) and 1938 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938) were suppressed by the Turkish government and more than one million Kurds were forcibly relocated between 1925 and 1938. The use of Kurdish language, dress, folklore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folklore), and names were banned and the Kurdish-inhabited areas remained under martial law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_law) until 1946 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1946).[45] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_people#cite_note-44) The Ararat revolt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ararat_revolt), which reached its apex in 1930, was only suppressed after a massive military campaign including destruction of many villages and their populations. In quelling the revolt, Turkey was assisted by the close cooperation of its neighboring states such as Soviet Union (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union) and Iran (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran).


The Partiya Karkerên Kurdistan (PKK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PKK)), also known as KADEK and Kongra-Gel, is considered by the US, the EU, and NATO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO) to be a terrorist organization.[48] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_people#cite_note-47) It is an ethnic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_nationalism) secessionist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secession) organization using violence for the purpose of achieving its goal of creating an independent Kurdish state in parts of southeastern Turkey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey), northeastern Iraq (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq), northeastern Syria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria) and northwestern Iran (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran).


Between 1984 and 1999, the PKK and the Turkish military engaged in open war, and much of the countryside in the southeast was depopulated, as Kurdish civilians moved to local defensible centers such as Diyarbakır (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diyarbak%C4%B1r), Van (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van,_Turkey), and Şırnak (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%9E%C4%B1rnak), as well as to the cities of western Turkey and even to western Europe. The causes of the depopulation included PKK atrocities against Kurdish clans they could not control, the poverty of the southeast, and the Turkish state's military operations.[49] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_people#cite_note-48)

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_people#cite_note-48)
Officially protected death squads are accused of disappearance of 3,200 Kurds in 1993 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993) and 1994 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994) in the so called mystery killings. Kurdish politicians, human-rights activists, journalists, teachers and other members of intelligentsia were among the victims. Virtually none of the perpetrators were investigated nor punished. Turkish government also encouraged an Islamic extremist group called Hezbollah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Hezbollah) to assassinate suspected PKK members and often ordinary Kurds.[50] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_people#cite_note-49)


In the 17th century, a large number of Kurds were settled by Shah Abbas I (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shah_Abbas_I) to Khorasan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khorasan_%28Province%29) in Eastern Iran and resettled in the cities of Northern Khorasan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Khorasan_Province) province (Quchan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quchan), Bojnurd (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bojnurd), Shirvan, DareGaz, and Esfaraeen) to defend Iran's frontier against Uzbeks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzbeks). Others migrated to Afghanistan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan) where they took refuge.[54] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_people#cite_note-autogenerated2-53) The Kurds of Khorasan, numbering around 700,000, still use the Kurmanji (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurmanji) Kurdish dialect.[13] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_people#cite_note-coucileu-12)[55] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_people#cite_note-54) During the 19th and 20th centuries, successive Iranian governments crushed Kurdish revolts led by Kurdish notables such as Shaikh Ubaidullah (against Qajars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qajars) in 1880) and Simko (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simko_Shikak) (against Pahlavis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pahlavi_dynasty) in the 1920s).[56] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_people#cite_note-pariah_minority-55)

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_people#cite_note-pariah_minority-55)
In January 1946, during the Soviet occupation of north-western Iran, the Soviet-backed Kurdish Republic of Mahabad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Mahabad) declared independence in parts of Iranian Kurdistan. Nevertheless, the Soviet forces left Iran in May 1946, and the self-declared republic fell to the Iranian army after only a few months and the president of the republic Qazi Muhammad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qazi_Muhammad) was hanged publicly in Mahabad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahabad). After the 1953 Iranian coup d'état (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat), Mohammad Reza Pahlavi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Reza_Pahlavi) became more autocratic and suppressed most opposition including Kurdish political groups seeking greater rights for Iranian Kurds. He also prohibited any teaching of the Kurdish language.[56] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_people#cite_note-pariah_minority-55)

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_people#cite_note-pariah_minority-55)
After the Iranian revolution, intense fighting occurred between militant Kurdish groups and the Islamic Republic between 1979 and 1982. In August 1979, Ruhollah Khomeini (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruhollah_Khomeini) declared a "holy war (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad)" against the Kurdish rebels seeking autonomy or independence, and ordered the Armed Forces to move to the Kurdish areas of Iran in order to push the Kurdish rebels out and restore central rule to the country.[/URL]


[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_people (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_people#cite_note-56)

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I'm actually impressed they made it out of the dark ages.

[spursncowboys]

Honest question. Don't know the answer. Some input would be nice to hear. Why are the Kurds so disliked by the rest of the Muslim people of that area.

Also...after all they have done to help the U.S. in the operations of Iraq...if we pull out...will they be victomized again?
The Kurds are a group who believe in their cn stry called kurdistan. turkey and iraq divided their country in two and took their political power away by making them a small majority. They are pretty autonomous in the north. but yeah, turkey not completely invading iraq and taking them over is because america is there.

[Winehole23]

urkey not completely invading iraq and taking them over is because america is there.Hopefully, not forever.

[exstatic]

it's not the arabs and turks that hate the kurds, so much as the whey people in western iran

:lmao It was tragic when the Kurds and Whey people separated.

[Winehole23]

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2012/0504/Iraq-s-unity-tested-by-rising-tensions-over-oil-rich-Kurdish-region/%28page%29/2

[Winehole23]

http://kurdistantribune.com/2012/turkey-losing-pkk/

[Homeland Security]

I think at some point a Kurd fucked a goat that an Arab was saving himself for, and it all went downhill from there.

[TDMVPDPOY]

kurds are like the jews and fkn gypsies...fkn clowns with no country living in other ppls territory and claiming its their country

[mavs>spurs]

kurds are like the jews and fkn gypsies...fkn clowns with no country living in other ppls territory and claiming its their country

pretty sure the jews do have their own country and are threatening to dominate the whole world's painted area if the iranians don't cease nuclear activities actually

[AussieFanKurt]

I think at some point a Kurd fucked a goat that an Arab was saving himself for, and it all went downhill from there.

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[lefty]

I think at some point a Kurd fucked a goat that an Arab was saving himself for, and it all went downhill from there.
:lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

kurds are like the jews and fkn gypsies...fkn clowns with no country living in other ppls territory and claiming its their country

Spoken like a true Aussie. I'm surprised you didn't include Australian aborigines in there.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Spoken like a true Aussie. I'm surprised you didn't include Australian aborigines in there.

they should be thankful that teh white man taken over and give them many opportunities in life to improve themselves, some have taken the opportunity and better themselves, while some continue to live in the outback still blaming society me against the world.....

they are lucky the chinaman didnt take over their country, or else they be like those ethnic minority groups in northern china, where the PRC party dont give a shit if ur not a member of the PRC....

every year we have boatload of illegals crossing the oceans to search for a better life, ppl who come with 2 blank hands and work their way up, while the original settlers or ppl who have already settled that dont contribute still play the me against the world crap....


no mention of armenians in this thread?

[AussieFanKurt]

Careful now, mate

[Winehole23]

kurds are like the jews and fkn gypsies...fkn clowns with no country living in other ppls territory and claiming its their countrygreat post, m8. fkn clowns deserve no respect or self determination. centuries of getting their asses kicked by everyone around them proves it -- if you're a scapegoat you must deserve it.

[TDMVPDPOY]

i know theres plenty of ethnic groups on this forum, do any of you clowns pissed with ur ethnic community leaders who are too chicken shit to solve social problems within the ethnic community, but continue to waste time and resources fighting against regimes of the motherland.....if u cant solve shit within ur community, u have no business trying to solve shit in the motherland...

if u love ur motherland so much, you shouldve enlist into the army back then and continue to fight....then fleeing to new country to spread bullshit propaganda, trying to brainwash later generations inside/outside of the country for regime changes who risks their lives to fight for change, while you sit at home talkin out of ur ass but do nothing to help....this is why there are disparity within ethnic communities, if you dont side with them they call you out for being a supporter of this or that....