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tlongII
10-03-2009, 12:42 PM
http://my.nba.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5700042716&

Here is a look at the 20 best Rookies from last year. Taking a look a little deeper than stats. Offensive Vs. Defense Vs. Shooting Vs. Worth.

Rookies used : Derrick Rose, Brook Lopez, Kevin Love, Eric Gordon, Michael Beasley, Marc Gasol, Russell Westbrook, OJ Mayo, Rudy Fernandez, DJ Augustin, Mario Chalmers, Courtney Lee, Marreese Speights, Jason Thompson, Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, Anthony Morrow, Greg Oden, Javale McGee, Nicholas Batum, Anthony Randolph.


LP : Last place of the top 20


Offensive Rating (Points per 100 possessions) :
1. Fernandez - 120
2. Morrow - 119
3. Batum - 117
4. Oden - 116
5. Speights - 115
5. Augustin - 115
7. Gasol - 112
8. Love - 112
9. Gordon - 112
10. Lopez - 110
LP : Westbrook - 99

Defensive Rating (Points allowed per 100 possessions) :
1. Oden - 104
1. Lee - 104
3. Mbah A Mout - 106
4. Batum - 107
4. Chalmers - 107
6. Lopez - 108
6. Beasley - 108
6. Gasol - 108
6. Randolph - 108
10. Fernandez - 109
10. Love - 109
LP. Morrow - 117

True +/- Rating (Offensive Rating - Defensive Rating for +/-)
1. Oden + 12
2. Fernandez + 11
3. Batum +10
4. Speights +8
5. Augustin +5
6. Gasol +4
7. Love +3
7. Lee +3
9. Lopez +2
9. Morrow +2
LP. Westbrook -12

True Shooting Percentage (2 point & 3 points field goals taken into account with FT's) :
1. Oden - 59.9%
2. Gorden - 59.3%
3. Gasol - 59.0%
4. Fernandez - 58.8%
4. Morrow - 58.8%
6. Augustin - 58.7%
7. Lopez - 56.8%
8. Lee - 55.6%
9. Batum - 55.5%
10. Chalmers - 54.8%
LP. Westbrook - 49.0% (Only one under 50%)

Win Shares (Estimated number of wins contributed to single player) :
1. Gasol - 6.3
2. Fernandez - 5.8
3. Lopez - 5.7
4. Love - 5.3
5. Chalmers - 5.1
6. Rose - 5.0
7. Augustin - 4.9
8. Gordon - 4.6
9. Lee - 4.4
10. Oden - 4.3
LP. Randolph - 1.7

Total Ranks (Add all together, 10 points for first place, 9 points for second, etc) :
1. Oden - 38/50
2. Fernandez - 36/50
3. Gasol - 32/50
4. Batum - 25/50
5. Augustin - 21/50
LP. Westbrook 0/50 + 3 LP's

Thoughts? Surprises? Anything?
Ditty
10-03-2009, 12:46 PM
hill > batum
lil_penny
10-03-2009, 01:09 PM
hill > batum

Lol
pauls931
10-03-2009, 01:12 PM
Tragic... Just tragic...
BlackBellamy
10-03-2009, 01:24 PM
Dude! The Blazers have a lot of young talent? I've never heard that before. Someone someone should write an article about how much potential they have. Thanks for the breaking news.
Muser
10-03-2009, 01:26 PM
When you have half the draft on your roster your bound to get some on the list.
WildcardManu
10-03-2009, 01:34 PM
This just in, the Blazers are the best in the league. Everyone should just give up the season and crown the blazers because those numbers are sure to double this year.
tlongII
10-03-2009, 01:38 PM
This just in, the Blazers are the best in the league. Everyone should just give up the season and crown the blazers because those numbers are sure to double this year.

:tu
Ditty
10-03-2009, 02:02 PM
hill is a better offensive player than batum maybe not defensive and batum and hill obth can be shut down players in there positions
Danny.Zhu
10-03-2009, 11:05 PM
Damn, I hate that Portland stole Batum.
Allanon
10-03-2009, 11:09 PM
The biggest problem with George Hill is that he's too short to be a shooting guard but because Tony plays so much, Hill has to play SG to get PT. Yah, he's got long arms but he's still only 6'2 versus a 6'6-6'7 SG. That results in alot of George Hill getting owned against the better SG's.

Batum's length and speed allow him to play both SG and SF effectively.
mogrovejo
10-04-2009, 01:08 AM
Do you want my thoughts? This kid has no idea about the meaning of the stats he's using.

Joel Przybilla, Kobe Bryant,James Singleton, Tim Duncan, Ray Allen

Offensive rating:

1. Przybilla
2. Singleton
3. Allen
4. Varejão
5. Bryant
6. Duncan

Defensive Rating

1. Varejao
2. Duncan
3. Przybilla
4. Singleton
5. Allen
6. Bryant

True +/- (the dummy doesn't even know it makes no sense whatsoever to compare or meddle ofRtg with DefRtg - plus/minus has nothing to do with this)

1. Przybilla
2. Singleton
3. Varejao
4. Allen
5. Duncan
6. Bryant

True Shooting Percentage (2 point & 3 points field goals taken into account with FT's) :

1. Przybilla
2. Allen
3. Varejao
4. Bryant
5. Singleton
6. Duncan

Win Shares:

1. Bryant
2. Allen
3. Duncan
4. Varejao
5. Przybilla
6. Singleton


Total Ranks (Add all together, 10 points for first place, 9 points for second, etc) :

1. Przybilla - 44
2. Varejao - 40
3. Allen - 39
4. Singleton - 36
5. Duncan - 33
Bryant - 33


See?

Do you want some more of my thoughts? Take this crap out of here. Your trolling is disgusting and a complete waste of time.
mystargtr34
10-04-2009, 01:18 AM
Hill will be part of the second unit, where the majority of his minutes will be spent playing along side Manu - which is a perfect fit. He has the ability to guard anyone 6'4" and under, ie point guards and combo guards. Potentially, he could chase around and bother taller players who are of lean build, such as a Rudy or a Ray Allen, who cant punish him physically. Having said that, it was never really ever intended for him to guard the out and out elite 2-guards in the NBA, such as Kobe.

He could also get 6-8 minutes extra playing alongside TP against teams with combo guards, such as the Mavs when they go to Terry-Kidd, or the Blazers if they go to a Miller-Rudy backcourt with Roy at the 3. Or in the East, he could be used alongside TP against Rondo-Allen or the Cavs with Mo-West/Gibson

There are options there for Pop.

Batum is the better player between the two though.
mystargtr34
10-04-2009, 01:20 AM
Do you want my thoughts? This kid has no idea about the meaning of the stats he's using.

Joel Przybilla, Kobe Bryant,James Singleton, Tim Duncan, Ray Allen

Offensive rating:

1. Przybilla
2. Singleton
3. Allen
4. Varejão
5. Bryant
6. Duncan

Defensive Rating

1. Varejao
2. Duncan
3. Przybilla
4. Singleton
5. Allen
6. Bryant

True +/- (the dummy doesn't even know it makes no sense whatsoever to compare or meddle ofRtg with DefRtg - plus/minus has nothing to do with this)

1. Przybilla
2. Singleton
3. Varejao
4. Allen
5. Duncan
6. Bryant

True Shooting Percentage (2 point & 3 points field goals taken into account with FT's) :

1. Przybilla
2. Allen
3. Varejao
4. Bryant
5. Singleton
6. Duncan

Win Shares:

1. Bryant
2. Allen
3. Duncan
4. Varejao
5. Przybilla
6. Singleton


Total Ranks (Add all together, 10 points for first place, 9 points for second, etc) :

1. Przybilla - 44
2. Varejao - 40
3. Allen - 39
4. Singleton - 36
5. Duncan - 33
Bryant - 33


See?

Do you want some more of my thoughts? Take this crap out of here. Your trolling is disgusting and a complete waste of time.

If Cuban gets hold of this, Singleton will be in for a 3 year $30M extension.