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Winehole23
10-04-2009, 04:11 PM
Retailers Fear Impact of a CIT Bankruptcy (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/16/AR2009071603654_2.html?referrer=emailarticle)

Many Could Face Disruption in Flow Of Merchandise


By Ylan Q. Mui and David Cho (http://projects.washingtonpost.com/staff/articles/ylan+q.+mui+and+david+cho/)
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, July 17, 2009



The potential bankruptcy of lending firm CIT Group (http://financial.washingtonpost.com/custom/wpost/html-qcn.asp?dispnav=business&mwpage=qcn&symb=CIT&nav=el) threatens to disrupt the flow of merchandise between retailers and their vendors just as they are gearing up for the crucial holiday season.



Three prominent retail trade groups sent letters to financial regulators this week warning that the failure of CIT would rip a hole in the industry supply chain. Dunkin' Donuts said the ability of its franchisors to open new stores or expand operations could be affected. And New York bankruptcy lawyer Jerry Reisman said he received more than two dozen calls from panicked stores and apparel manufacturers, some of which said they may not have the money to pay their employees today.



"They are unbelievably concerned right now," Reisman said. "What we may have here is a total disruption in small business."



CIT plays an important behind-the-scenes role in the retail industry. When stores place orders for merchandise, they typically have two to three months to pay for the goods. Suppliers hand those IOUs over to lenders such as CIT -- a process known as factoring -- which in turn provide suppliers with cash upfront to make their merchandise. If that system were to be disrupted, industry experts said, the result could be barren store shelves and a ruined Christmas.






CIT had asked the federal government for help in avoiding bankruptcy, but officials this week refused to step in. The Treasury Department lent $2.3 billion in to the company in December. Some officials now expect that investment to be lost.
Yesterday, the company turned to its bondholders in a last-ditch effort to save itself. CIT gave investors 24 hours to raise an additional $2 billion, though some analysts said even that would not be enough to avoid insolvency. The company's shares fell 75 percent to close at 41 cents.
The ultimatum left bondholders with a dilemma, forcing them to choose between putting even more money into a failing company or a bankruptcy filing in which they would suffer heavy losses. Some of the bondholders floated the possibility of swapping bonds that are due soon for long-term debt to give the company some extra time.



Analysts doubted whether these maneuvers would work. And several credit rating agencies downgraded the firm to junk status in expectation of a bankruptcy.



"We believe the figure is in the range of $4 to $6 billion, making outside capital sources shy away from such a heavy recapitalization," according to a research note released yesterday by CreditSights. "We believe the prudent course for bondholders is to brace for bankruptcy."



The fundamental problem with CIT is that its business model is broken, government officials said, and a fresh round of federal aid would do little to keep the company from failing. In making this determination, the officials were taking a chance that the financial system would be strong enough to absorb the collapse of a large financial firm.



CIT primarily provides financing for small and medium-size businesses; large consumer products companies typically access credit directly from banks. It also is a key source of financing for retail franchises, such as Dunkin' Donuts.



According to its annual report filed in March, CIT accounted for about $42 billion in factoring volume last year. The American Apparel and Footwear Association, a trade group, said about 60 percent of its members have done business with the firm

They're basically the bank for the way we do business," AAFA chief executive Kevin M. Burke said. "At any point there where the money stops, then the movement of that product stops as well."

CIT caters to apparel and furniture manufacturers, which typically require long lead times to produce goods and have high manufacturing costs. Stores are currently placing orders for merchandise that will appear in stores in the fall and winter -- the most important selling season of the year. Suppliers are worried that a lack of financing could keep them from buying materials to produce their goods, much less ship them to retailers. Retailers say that any disruption in receiving merchandise could derail hopes of recovering from their sales slump.



"The ripple effects of this kind of event are not really appreciated in the halls of power," said Matt Polsky, managing director of retail investment firm Net Worth Solutions.



The National Retail Federation sent a letter to financial regulators on Wednesday urging them to extend a lifeline to CIT. The Retail Industry Leaders Association, which represents both stores and their suppliers, followed up yesterday with a letter to Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner urging him to reconsider and investigate "every available option."
"Any additional tightening of the credit markets will only exacerbate the constraints on our members' ability to provide the products that consumers seek and most importantly, to maintain millions of retail jobs across the nation," the letter said.



But speaking on his cellphone between meetings on Capitol Hill, the group's senior vice president of government affairs, John Emling, acknowledged the prospects of a reversal seemed dim.



"It doesn't sound good," he said. "But at the same time, what other options do we have?"

coyotes_geek
10-04-2009, 05:04 PM
Looks like CIT is going to be a victim of bailout fatigue.

Winehole23
10-04-2009, 05:12 PM
I certainly hope so, but the results might not be pretty.

A supply chain washout would suck.

Now that this story is bubbling to the surface, it could create a bid for more bailout.

boutons_deux
10-04-2009, 07:35 PM
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/9170b5f2-b10f-11de-b06b-00144feabdc0.html?ftcamp=rss&nclick_check=1

coyotes_geek
10-04-2009, 09:32 PM
I certainly hope so, but the results might not be pretty.

A supply chain washout would suck.

Now that this story is bubbling to the surface, it could create a bid for more bailout.

With both suppliers and retailers desperate for sales I have faith they'd be able to find a way to work it out to get products in stores. Not to say that there wouldn't be difficulties, but necessity is the mother of invention.

Wild Cobra
10-04-2009, 09:50 PM
Looks like CIT is going to be a victim of bailout fatigue.
More likely, none of the CEO have friends in high place. Then again, everything this administration has done, has the impact of hurting this nation. Maybe they fear doing something that will really held?


Don't get me wrong. I'm against this as qualifying for a bailout too. I stick with my original position, a year old now on this board.

Give the necessary financial backup to financial institutions that have done things right. Let the smaller, smart, financial institutions get bigger, and back them with loan money as needed.

Wild Cobra
10-04-2009, 09:51 PM
With both suppliers and retailers desperate for sales I have faith they'd be able to find a way to work it out to get products in stores. Not to say that there wouldn't be difficulties, but necessity is the mother of invention.
Suppliers can always write their own repayment schedule from the retailers.

Aggie Hoopsfan
10-04-2009, 10:03 PM
Guess they didn't have anyone high up at CIT willing to bribe anyone in the Obama Admin.

coyotes_geek
10-04-2009, 10:05 PM
More likely, none of the CEO have friends in high place. Then again, everything this administration has done, has the impact of hurting this nation. Maybe they fear doing something that will really held?

Political connections, or lack thereof, might be playing a part. But IMO it's just a case of a public that is sick of bailouts, especially to financial institutions. Given Obama's consciousness to all things P.R. I don't think he'll step in here. Regardless of his motives, it's the right call. The bailouts have to stop.

boutons_deux
10-04-2009, 10:15 PM
The decision on CIT was taken months ago.

whether the public is sick of bailouts now, or months ago, is irrelevant because the public has no influence on the bailout decisions.

Still waiting for the Repug alternative to bailing out the financial sector, not that I expect to hear anything but lies, fantasies, paranoia, slime, slander and assorted total bullshit from the Repugs.

My link shows that letting CIT fail wouldn't hurt Goldman, which was not the case with AIG, who owed Goldman $15B.

ducks
10-04-2009, 10:20 PM
maybe the stick figure things he has bankrapt america enough already

SnakeBoy
10-04-2009, 10:46 PM
Suppliers can always write their own repayment schedule from the retailers.

You're assuming the suppliers have the cash reserves to allow them to let retailers make payments , that's not a safe assumption. Besides, retailers (small and large) are hanging on by their fingernails so it isn't a safe bet that they will be around to repay.

ducks
10-04-2009, 10:55 PM
The decision on CIT was taken months ago.

whether the public is sick of bailouts now, or months ago, is irrelevant because the public has no influence on the bailout decisions.

Still waiting for the Repug alternative to bailing out the financial sector, not that I expect to hear anything but lies, fantasies, paranoia, slime, slander and assorted total bullshit from the Repugs.

My link shows that letting CIT fail wouldn't hurt Goldman, which was not the case with AIG, who owed Goldman $15B.
ofcourse the public has no influence on those assholes in washington and the whitehouse
after all they were voted in by the people to do WHAT THE Public WANts
not what they want




that is the problem with washington and whitehouse now

ducks
10-04-2009, 11:03 PM
the decision on cit was taken months ago.

link?

Viva Las Espuelas
10-04-2009, 11:09 PM
link?
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131692

Wild Cobra
10-05-2009, 10:32 AM
Political connections, or lack thereof, might be playing a part. But IMO it's just a case of a public that is sick of bailouts, especially to financial institutions. Given Obama's consciousness to all things P.R. I don't think he'll step in here. Regardless of his motives, it's the right call. The bailouts have to stop.
Well, that just proves he has no leadership (executive) experience and should have never been elected.

Being a leader means standing up for your principles. Not bowing down to the will of others. A good president doesn't legislate by poll.

Wild Cobra
10-05-2009, 10:33 AM
Still waiting for the Repug alternative to bailing out the financial sector, not that I expect to hear anything but lies, fantasies, paranoia, slime, slander and assorted total bullshit from the Repugs.

WTF?

Why should the republicans offer a bailout?

Wild Cobra
10-05-2009, 10:40 AM
You're assuming the suppliers have the cash reserves to allow them to let retailers make payments , that's not a safe assumption. Besides, retailers (small and large) are hanging on by their fingernails so it isn't a safe bet that they will be around to repay.
All in the plans.

Obama Consumer Products.

Only the companies with friends in High places will survive the Obama administration if things continue as they are proceeding.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/Politics/OCP.jpg

Don't forget the plans of building Delta City...

2centsworth
10-05-2009, 10:43 AM
more sub-prime nonsense. Now how to we make the connection to CDS?

boutons_deux
10-05-2009, 11:59 AM
"Only the companies with friends in High places will survive the Obama administration if things continue as they are proceeding."

and of course it would be different if Repugs or your pure-as-driven-snow conservatives were running the show

coyotes_geek
10-05-2009, 08:38 PM
Still waiting for the Repug alternative to bailing out the financial sector, not that I expect to hear anything but lies, fantasies, paranoia, slime, slander and assorted total bullshit from the Repugs.

You've seen the republican alternative. It's the exact same as the democrat alternative. It's called "bend over taxpayers".


My link shows that letting CIT fail wouldn't hurt Goldman, which was not the case with AIG, who owed Goldman $15B.

So they loaned $3 billion to CIT and get $1 billion back if CIT goes under. I'm guessing there aren't too many people at Goldman hoping that a $3 billion dollar loan defaults so that they can collect $1 billion.

On a side note, if and when we ever get out of this mess I hope whoever is in power has the balls to go Sherman Act on Goldman. They need to be busted up.