Chris Collinworth and Ben Rothlisberger [Archive]

DUNCANownsKOBE2

10-04-2009, 07:58 PM

jack sommerset

10-04-2009, 08:00 PM

. Just a remender Collinsworth:

Dude, I don't think Collinsworth comes to this site.

benefactor

10-04-2009, 08:09 PM

When was it decided that Collinsworth actually knows something about football?

jack sommerset

10-04-2009, 08:13 PM

When was it decided that Collinsworth actually knows something about football?

I like the guy. Guy has been on some good football programs over the years. Played the game. Seems to know alot. He has earned his PHD is NFL in my opinion. And the motherfucker can only see out one eye.

DUNCANownsKOBE2

10-04-2009, 08:21 PM

And the motherfucker can only see out one eye.

What happened? Did a high school team beat him up after he tried to get with the QB's girlfriend?

ducks

10-04-2009, 08:50 PM

steelers line is killing my chargers line\sucks

Ghazi

10-04-2009, 09:49 PM

Big Ben is the man.

J.T.

10-04-2009, 11:46 PM

I hope the Broncos beat that ass

Wonder if Rivers will try to talk shit to Orton like he did to Cutler

DAF86

10-05-2009, 12:24 AM

Big Ben is a top 5 QB right now.

stretch

10-05-2009, 06:39 AM

What happened? Did a high school team beat him up after he tried to get with the QB's girlfriend?

no, big ben nutted in his retina

DUNCANownsKOBE2

10-05-2009, 08:19 AM

Big Ben is a top 5 QB right now.

You're fuckin stupid.

SpuronyourFace

10-05-2009, 09:21 AM

You're fuckin stupid.

Ben will play ugly football, but gets it done when he has to. He's not a top 5 QB, but he has been in the playoffs and own 2 rings. So I think its stupid to shit on Ben Rothlisberger. And for the record I hate him, but I can recognize that the dude has played some good football since he's been in the league.

beefanus

10-05-2009, 12:54 PM

How is Ben not a top 5 QB? cause he pump fakes too much? come on! he has 2 SB rings 2nd only to Brady with 3. he was the youngest qb to get to the play-offs and the youngest to win a SB. He is 8-2 in the play-offs he also is showing these last 2 years that he doesn't have to rely on the run they can win threw the air! That's how HE won the SB last year, on a final drive in the clutch with a perfect pass! i mean what has Brees or Payton or Mc Nabb done that he wasnt? he has already shown he is the best QB out of the '04 class by far!

my top 5 qb's are brady, payton, brees/ Mc Nabb, and ben at # 5

beefanus

10-05-2009, 12:56 PM

How can u put anyone else infront of him?

MajorMike

10-05-2009, 01:07 PM

I like pie.

beefanus

10-05-2009, 01:08 PM

way to avoid the question guys, all that does is prove my point and show that i am right.

smahmood26

10-05-2009, 01:10 PM

Ben Rothlisberger pump fakes ten times, gets sacked, fumbles then recovers his own fumble. Collinsworth then proceeds to bust a fat nut about Ben's ability to buy time and utilize pump fakes. Just a remender Collinsworth:

1) When someone gets sacked, they obviously didn't buy enough time.
2) When someone pump fakes 10 times and can't even get a pass off, his pump fakes obviously didn't do jack shit.
3) Pro athletes in their twenties aren't allowed to date/fuck high school girls. That's considered rape......could this be why you're such a huge Fat Ben fan?

Is there ever a time that you make a thread and not bitch about something. I'm gonna assume no. You know that you would love to have Big Ben on your team and love that the media drools over everything he does. When you're the QB of a big time team people just love you bottom line.

J.T.

10-05-2009, 01:10 PM

my top 5 qb's are brady, payton, brees/ Mc Nabb, and ben at # 5

lol brady being #1 on your list when it took him 4 games to get a td to randy moss

beefanus

10-05-2009, 01:15 PM

lol brady being #1 on your list when it took him 4 games to get a td to randy moss
AND it took payton nine YEARS to win a play-offs game not to mention only winning 1 super bowl!

J.T.

10-05-2009, 01:19 PM

sean payton hasn't won a super bowl yet you fucking retard

smahmood26

10-05-2009, 01:20 PM

sean payton hasn't won a super bowl yet you fucking retard

LOL, be nice you know what he meant!!

J.T.

10-05-2009, 01:23 PM

LOL, be nice you know what he meant!!

No, I don't, because Peyton Manning won a playoff game before his ninth season.

beefanus

10-05-2009, 01:27 PM

i was talking about peyton

smahmood26

10-05-2009, 01:31 PM

No, I don't, because Peyton Manning won a playoff game before his ninth season.

I see!! my bad for getting involved.

beefanus

10-05-2009, 01:32 PM

and it was a little b4 that sorry i had bad information from some one

stretch

10-05-2009, 01:43 PM

and it was a little b4 that sorry i had bad information from some one

do your own research then, moron

J.T.

10-05-2009, 01:46 PM

If Peyton played on the Steelers they'd have like 11 Super Bowls instead of 6. Roethlisberger sucks.

smahmood26

10-05-2009, 02:08 PM

If Peyton played on the Steelers they'd have like 11 Super Bowls instead of 6. Roethlisberger sucks.

Thing is, Steelers haven't sucked that bad (since like 1970) to get the number 1 pick. Does it burn you that your boy doesn't have as many rings as Roethlisberger?? It seems like you and all the other Ben haters are a tad bit jealous. It's easy to hate on someone that wins at life!!!!!

*Enter dumbass rape comments here*

But my boy will win at that too!!!!

DUNCANownsKOBE2

10-05-2009, 05:13 PM

Thing is, Steelers haven't sucked that bad (since like 1970) to get the number 1 pick. Does it burn you that your boy doesn't have as many rings as Roethlisberger?? It seems like you and all the other Ben haters are a tad bit jealous. It's easy to hate on someone that wins at life!!!!!

*Enter dumbass rape comments here*

But my boy will win at that too!!!!

People who win at life know how to ride a motorcycle and aren't fat.

DUNCANownsKOBE2

10-05-2009, 05:21 PM

So I guess the Ben Rothlisberger fans in this thread think Trent Dilfer > Dan Marino

smahmood26

10-06-2009, 12:34 AM

People who win at life know how to ride a motorcycle and aren't fat.

Even through all that he wins, that's why he's great!!!

smahmood26

10-06-2009, 12:35 AM

So I guess the Ben Rothlisberger fans in this thread think Trent Dilfer > Dan Marino

Never said Ben was better than Peyton. Just letting you know why he doesn't suck

KSeal

10-06-2009, 12:39 AM

Fuck fagfullberger and his douchebag team. Dude sucks and Collinworth is an utter cocksucker.

DUNCANownsKOBE2

10-06-2009, 12:40 AM

Never said Ben was better than Peyton. Just letting you know why he doesn't suck

I don't think he "sucks" (I'd def. take him over Kurt "I eat dicks" Warner), I just think he's overrated and don't like how he gets the Teabow treatment, almost as annoying as when Teabow gets it.

smahmood26

10-06-2009, 01:24 AM

I don't think he "sucks" (I'd def. take him over Kurt "I eat dicks" Warner), I just think he's overrated and don't like how he gets the Teabow treatment, almost as annoying as when Teabow gets it.

Superstars in every sport, that win, get that "love" (except Tim Duncan), that's just part of it. I will admit to you that because I'm a Steeler fan I don't mind the love that Roethlisberger gets but hate the media frenzy that surrounds Tebow, Kobe, KG and others. I do hate it when it involves players/teams that don't win anything (LeBron, Notre Dame, Cowboys)

DAF86

10-06-2009, 01:56 AM

You're fuckin stupid.

Dude, when you use a word so much it loses its meaning.

The top 3 QB come pretty easy right now:

1-Peyton Manning
2-Brady
3-Brees

Then I have Ben as number 4, and I can't think of a clear number 5.

Tell me who IYO is better than Rothlisberger in the QB position.

DAF86

10-06-2009, 01:58 AM

Oh and FYI I'm not a fan of the Steelers and Ben isn't Argentine so you can't use the "homer" card.

symple19

10-06-2009, 02:02 AM

Dude, when you use a word so much it loses its meaning.

The top 3 QB come pretty easy right now:

1-Peyton Manning
2-Brady
3-Brees

Then I have Ben as number 4, and I can't think of a clear number 5.

Tell me who IYO is better than Rothlisberger in the QB position.

Brett Favre is the clear #5

Spursfan092120

10-06-2009, 02:20 AM

Brett Favre is the clear #5
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

symple19

10-06-2009, 02:27 AM

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Stop humping your sister and refute my answer with something of substance...:p:

DAF86

10-11-2009, 04:12 PM

23-30 277 yds 3 tds.

Clearly one of the best QB's in the league right now.

Warlord23

10-11-2009, 04:24 PM

He sure is ... but the haters won't accept it

J.T.

10-11-2009, 04:42 PM

Peyton Manning would've had stats like 38-40 560 yards 7 TDs against the Lions

Ben sucks

Warlord23

10-11-2009, 04:50 PM

Peyton Manning would've had stats like 38-40 560 yards 7 TDs against the Lions

Ben sucks

Peyton's also a playoff choker, so it evens out

DAF86

10-18-2009, 06:13 PM

23-35, 417 yds, 2 tds.

bostonguy

10-18-2009, 06:16 PM

23-35, 417 yds, 2 tds.

Against a horrible Browns team.

DUNCANownsKOBE2

10-18-2009, 06:18 PM

23-35, 417 yds, 2 tds.

You sure love to cheer for overrated coat tail riders. Ginobili, Big Ben, are you a closet Mark Madsen fan?

DAF86

10-18-2009, 06:24 PM

You sure love to cheer for overrated coat tail riders. Ginobili, Big Ben, are you a closet Mark Madsen fan?

I already told you, I'm not a Rothlisberger fan, I just (objectively) think that he's a top 5 QB on the league. And his performances prove this.

dirk4mvp

10-18-2009, 06:26 PM

Peyton, Brady, Rivers, Brees, Eli are all better than him. And after today's dominating performance, Russell gets some consideration.

DAF86

10-18-2009, 06:31 PM

Peyton, Brady, Rivers, Brees, Eli are all better than him. And after today's dominating performance, Russell gets some consideration.

And you base that on what? stats don't help you to make that claim.

I assure you that Ben will get Peyton/Brady status in a year or two (if not sooner)

DUNCANownsKOBE2

10-18-2009, 06:33 PM

I assure you that Ben will get Peyton/Brady status in a year or two (if not sooner)

In your mind he already has......he's nowhere near the level they are and never will be.

dirk4mvp

10-18-2009, 06:34 PM

Oh when does spurfan turn into a stats guy?

DUNCANownsKOBE2

10-18-2009, 06:37 PM

And you base that on what? stats don't help you to make that claim.

You're basing your entire argument on stats from 6 games when 4 of those games were against atrocious defenses, and when the two games against good/average defenses, his performance was pedestrian at best.

DAF86

10-18-2009, 06:40 PM

In your mind he already has......he's nowhere near the level they are and never will be.

No, he hasn't.

DUNCANownsKOBE2

10-18-2009, 06:46 PM

Fat Ben Career:
0 MVP
2 super bowls
0 super bowl MVP's
1 pro bowl
0 first team all pro appearances
63% completion, 213.6 YPG, 1.4 TD's per game, .96 INT's per game

Brady Career:
1 MVP
3 super bowls
2 superbowl MVP's
4 Pro bowls
1 First team all pro appearance
63% completion, 235.5 YPG, 1.7 TD's per game, .74 INT's per game

Pretty fuckin retarded to say Ben is anywhere near Brady status.

DAF86

10-18-2009, 06:49 PM

You're basing your entire argument on stats from 6 games when 4 of those games were against atrocious defenses, and when the two games against good/average defenses, his performance was pedestrian at best.

I'm not basing my argument on stats, nor I'm basing my argument on this season alone.

I think Ben is a top 5 QB because of the constant improvement he has made since he joined the league and the habilities he displays on the field, he's one of the strongest and most mobile QBs, already one of the most accurate (IMO the most important atribute in a QB) and like it or not the guy is a winner.

DAF86

10-18-2009, 06:51 PM

DUNCANownsKOBE2

10-18-2009, 06:52 PM

the guy is a winner.

Winners complete more than 9 passes when they make the superbowl.

DUNCANownsKOBE2

10-18-2009, 06:54 PM

Who the fuck said that?

I assure you that Ben will get Peyton/Brady status in a year or two (if not sooner)

You basically said he's near Brady status, no?

DAF86

10-18-2009, 06:56 PM

You basically said he's near Brady status, no?

No, I said he will get there in a year or two.

dirk4mvp

10-18-2009, 06:56 PM

I'm not basing my argument on stats, nor I'm basing my argument on this season alone.

I think Ben is a top 5 QB because of the constant improvement he has made since he joined the league and the habilities he displays on the field, he's one of the strongest and most mobile QBs, already one of the most accurate (IMO the most important atribute in a QB) and like it or not the guy is a winner.

Do you think he would have any SB's if he was given the Colts' D instead of having near top of the league defenses every year?

DUNCANownsKOBE2

10-18-2009, 06:59 PM

No, I said he will get there in a year or two.

So you're saying in the next 1-2 years, he'll receive 2 super bowl MVPs, at least 1 more super bowl, an All-Pro NFL appearance, and 3 pro bowls appearances?

DUNCANownsKOBE2

10-18-2009, 07:00 PM

Do you think he would have any SB's if he was given the Colts' D instead of having near top of the league defenses every year?

He's a winner. His awesomeness rubs off on his defense. If he were in Indy, the Colts D would have been better cause he's a "winner" who "improves a lot".

DAF86

10-18-2009, 07:02 PM

Do you think he would have any SB's if he was given the Colts' D instead of having near top of the league defenses every year?

No, I don't. And I admit that he probably wouldn't be the player that he is now without the confidence of having won 2 superbowl rings. But arguing about that is pointless right now. He won what he won and he is what he is.

The same could be said about Brady and the Pats.

DUNCANownsKOBE2

10-18-2009, 07:03 PM

So basically Dilfer > Marino cause Dilfer's a "winner".

DAF86

10-18-2009, 07:06 PM

So you're saying in the next 1-2 years, he'll receive 2 super bowl MVPs, at least 1 more super bowl, an All-Pro NFL appearance, and 3 pro bowls appearances?

No, I said he will get Manning/Brady (superstar) status. That is, the perception of beign the best even if other guys have better stats.

DUNCANownsKOBE2

10-18-2009, 07:07 PM

No, I said he will get Manning/Brady (superstar) status. That is, the perception of beign the best even if other guys have better stats.

Too bad there's absolutely no way to prove that.

DAF86

10-18-2009, 07:14 PM

Too bad there's absolutely no way to prove that.

Wait and see.

Are you telling me that, if Ben plays two more seasons like he is playing right now and his team stays a contender (maybe even win a superbowl), is not probable that Rothlisberger will get that kind of status?

DUNCANownsKOBE2

10-18-2009, 07:18 PM

Wait and see.

Are you telling me that, if Ben plays two more seasons like he is playing right now and his team stays a contender (maybe even win a superbowl), is not probable that Rothlisberger will get that kind of status?

Yes I agree, if Ben gets to play the Lions or the Browns every week, he'll be the GOAT.

Ghazi

10-18-2009, 07:20 PM

lol at the big ben haters. guy proved he was a winner in college and in the NFL. The final drive against the Cardinals, the immaculate tackle against the Colts, those are some special plays from a special player. His defense didn't bail him out in the latest SuperBowl, HE bailed out the defense.

As for his horrendous showing against the Seahawks, big deal. It was his 2nd year in the league and nobody said he was near Manning/Brees/Brady status anyway.