jeff fisher

[Kermit]

I'm not so sure Fisher is the problem with their record.
He's been their coach for a while, and they've always been a pretty decent team.
The chemistry is just all off with the players.
With any team, it's one thing to go out and purchase several outstanding players...but it doesn't mean anything if their skills sets don't work well together.
I'm not exactly sure how they should go about fixing the team, but I really don't think the coach is the issue.

And on the comment Fisher made - as Peyton said, anymore, any comment you make will upset someone. It's so true. Nowadays, you have to be so careful, it's ridiculous.
I used to work with an assignment editor who had a sign on his desk. It read: "You can't please all of the people all of the time. Today isn't your day, and tomorrow doesn't look good either."

TN players and fans need to grow a thicker skin. It wasn't meant to insult his team, but rather honor Dungy.
Perhaps the TN players need to spend more time practicing and trying to figure out their issues, and less time worrying about what Fisher is saying as an introduction to one of the classiest men in football.

i'm not picking on you, but....

let the mavs kick the everloving shit out of the spurs in the playoffs. say 4 games to one. then pop goes to an awards banquet honoring, oh say the dali fucking lama and bust open his suit and while wearing a diggler jersey says, "i just wanted to see what it felt like to be a winner."

let's see him get away with that shit and then you have room to criticize the tn fans. it's the fans who are pissed, not the players yo. i don't give a fuck how classy dungy is, there are some things you don't do.

[SpursFanFirst]

i'm not picking on you, but....

let the mavs kick the everloving shit out of the spurs in the playoffs. say 4 games to one. then pop goes to an awards banquet honoring, oh say the dali fucking lama and bust open his suit and while wearing a diggler jersey says, "i just wanted to see what it felt like to be a winner."

let's see him get away with that shit and then you have room to criticize the tn fans. it's the fans who are pissed, not the players yo. i don't give a fuck how classy dungy is, there are some things you don't do.

Spurs weren't exactly the best team to pick out of all the teams I love. The Fisher incident is way less likely to happen with them.

It's a more likely scenario with the Cowboys or Irish.
If Weis or Phillips did what Fisher did, I honestly wouldn't care.
The problems the Titans have go well past Fisher making his comment....and started long before that.

It's a SPORT, for crying out loud. It's not a matter of life and death.

Obviously, TN fans want to get upset over something. How about homelessness or domestic abuse or hungry children? THAT'S something to get angry about.

[monosylab1k]

What Fisher did was stupid and out of line. Maybe he had completely harmless intentions, but either way, he sold out his entire team, and especially his quarterbacks.

[monosylab1k]

He could have worn a Joe Montana jersey, a John Elway jersey, a Johnny Unitas jersey, a Troy Aikman jersey, or, what would have been most appropriate, a Steve McNair jersey.

But no. He picked the jersey of a currently active quarterback that plays for a division rival.

There's smarter ways of honoring Tony Dungy.

[J.T.]

He should have just worn a Brady jersey and said "if you can't beat em, join em"

[monosylab1k]

i don't give a fuck how classy dungy is

he does tho. he'll make sure you know how classy he is. and how much he loves Jesus. He's kinda a skinny old black man version of Ladainian Tebow.

[SpursFanFirst]

He could have worn a Joe Montana jersey, a John Elway jersey, a Johnny Unitas jersey, a Troy Aikman jersey, or, what would have been most appropriate, a Steve McNair jersey.

Why would he choose those players when introducing Dungy?

People need to get over it. This is a stupid argument.

[SpursFanFirst]

he does tho. he'll make sure you know how classy he is. and how much he loves Jesus. He's kinda a skinny old black man version of Ladainian Tebow.

This is pathetic comment, mono.
Heaven forbid there should be a Christian man out there representing the NFL in a way that wouldn't offend most people.

[Kermit]

:lmao

the guantlet has been dropped. sports writers across the country are claiming there are more important things for tennessee fans to be worring about as they jack off to their brady photos and cream all over tebowjesus dolls.

worst argument ever. sports writer telling sports fan to not care so much. you know what asshole? if it's so unimportant and meaningless, stop writing about it, quit your fucking job, and feed a bunch of homeless. and whiny sports fan needs to stop regurgitating this weak shit.

[Kermit]

This is pathetic comment, mono.
Heaven forbid there should be a Christian man out there representing the NFL in a way that wouldn't offend most people.

you forgot to mention that he's black.

[SpursFanFirst]

:lmao

the guantlet has been dropped. sports writers across the country are claiming there are more important things for tennessee fans to be worring about as they jack off to their brady photos and cream all over tebowjesus dolls.

worst argument ever. sports writer telling sports fan to not care so much. you know what asshole? if it's so unimportant and meaningless, stop writing about it, quit your fucking job, and feed a bunch of homeless. and whiny sports fan needs to stop regurgitating this weak shit.

Who's a sports writer? Nice try.

[SpursFanFirst]

you forgot to mention that he's black.

Who cares?

[Kermit]

Who's a sports writer? Nice try.

:lmao

you're the baby bird.

[SpursFanFirst]

:lmao

you're the baby bird.

:huh

[SpursFanFirst]

I know it's hard for you to imagine, Kermit, but some people CAN think for themselves.

I rarely read sports media, so I'm hardly "regurgitating" a sports writer's comments.

[Kermit]

i'm proud of you.

[monosylab1k]

This is pathetic comment, mono.
Heaven forbid there should be a Christian man out there representing the NFL in a way that wouldn't offend most people.

There's plenty of athletes who love Jesus and don't need to mention it every chance they get. And then use their faith as a way of portraying themselves as saintly before playing against Satan Belichick.

Tony Dungy is no different than Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson. A snake oil salesman using God to further his own agenda.

[monosylab1k]

For a guy who loves to tell everyone how awesome his faith and "quiet strength" is, maybe he should have put that on display a little more in his family life before his son offed himself.

[dirk4mvp]

That's an awesome thing to say.

[J.T.]

For a guy who loves to tell everyone how awesome his faith and "quiet strength" is, maybe he should have put that on display a little more in his family life before his son offed himself.

if you don't get pinked for this they should do away with pinking people all together on spurstalk

almost as bad as the timothy mcveigh troll

[Kermit]

damn dude.

[Blake]

dont you mean tech is the most overranked team in the country

No, what I mean is that Vince is the most cockslobbered player on this board

[Dr. Gonzo]

if you don't get pinked for this they should do away with pinking people all together on spurstalk

almost as bad as the timothy mcveigh troll

Damn you are sensitive when it comes to someone making a crass comment about someone associated with the Colts.

Would you have had the same reaction if he made a similar comment about Steve McNair getting killed?

[Blake]

For a guy who loves to tell everyone how awesome his faith and "quiet strength" is, maybe he should have put that on display a little more in his family life before his son offed himself.

you're a bigger idiot than I previously thought you were. well done.

[J.T.]

Damn you are sensitive when it comes to someone making a crass comment about someone associated with the Colts.

Would you have had the same reaction if he made a similar comment about Steve McNair getting killed?

idk

ask him to make the same post about steve mcnair getting killed and see what i do about it

[monosylab1k]

Steve McNair made a stupid decision that led to his death, but at least he never exploited faith in God to further his own agenda.

[J.T.]

:lmao mono still ridiculously bitter about 38-34

[pkbpkb81]

There's plenty of athletes who love Jesus and don't need to mention it every chance they get. And then use their faith as a way of portraying themselves as saintly before playing against Satan Belichick.

Tony Dungy is no different than Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson. A snake oil salesman using God to further his own agenda.

not ture.....there are a ton of storys out there about how he has helped people useing his faith....

[J.T.]

or maybe he's bitter about 18-1* :lmao

[J.T.]

or bernard pollard :lmao

[J.T.]

:lmao CHEATriots

isn't it funny how i put 'cheat' in there?

[Blake]

Steve McNair made a stupid decision that led to his death, but at least he never exploited faith in God to further his own agenda.

exactly how has dungy exploited faith in God to further his own agenda?

What's his agenda?

[Dr. Gonzo]

or bernard pollard :lmao

I can't wait until the Texans play the Pats this season. Pollard is gonna take his knee out again.

[SpursFanFirst]

exactly how has dungy exploited faith in God to further his own agenda?

What's his agenda?

You don't understand, Blake.

It's OK for McNair to run around on his wife and kids with multiple women...after all, that's the athlete way.
It's not OK to be known as a Christian around the league. To be known as a man of God in the league, you have to have a hidden agenda. That Dungy is one sneaky man.

<read with thick sarcasm>

[Kermit]

You don't understand, Blake.

It's OK for McNair to run around on his wife and kids with multiple women...after all, that's the athlete way.
It's not OK to be known as a Christian around the league. To be known as a man of God in the league, you have to have a hidden agenda. That Dungy is one sneaky man.

<read with thick sarcasm>

just wait until tebow gets there and converts the whole league. praise be to tebowjesus.

[monosylab1k]

exactly how has dungy exploited faith in God to further his own agenda?

What's his agenda?

Tony Dungy's agenda is Tony Dungy. Just like every other snake oil salesman out there.

If you're a God fearing man, great. Just don't take a holier-than-thou stance with everybody and use it to sell books.

I really wonder how high the bidding war got between, Dungy, Sharpton, & Jesse for the right to be Michael Vick's "mentor".

[monosylab1k]

You don't understand, Blake.

It's OK for McNair to run around on his wife and kids with multiple women...after all, that's the athlete way.
It's not OK to be known as a Christian around the league. To be known as a man of God in the league, you have to have a hidden agenda. That Dungy is one sneaky man.

<read with thick sarcasm>

From the looks of his TD celebration, Plaxico Burress is a so-called "man of God" too.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

exactly how has dungy exploited faith in God to further his own agenda?

What's his agenda?


I don't agree with Monos about the whole "agenda" thing, but Dungy is one of many players/coaches who likes to hide behind the "I'm a nice guy who loves Jesus" skirt in order to garner fan support and get off easier for bad performances.

Another example of this is Kurt Warner playing like complete dog shit against San Francisco week one of this year and then bringing a bible to the press conference in hopes of avoiding anything that questions how hard he worked in training camp, his preparation for the game, or his decision making throughout the game.

I hate to say it, it works. Just look at all the Dungy slob knocking going on in this thread.

[SpursFanFirst]

I don't agree with Monos about the whole "agenda" thing, but Dungy is one of many players/coaches who likes to hide behind the "I'm a nice guy who loves Jesus" skirt in order to garner fan support and get off easier for bad performances.

Another example of this is Kurt Warner playing like complete dog shit against San Francisco week one of this year and then bringing a bible to the press conference in hopes of avoiding anything that questions how hard he worked in training camp, his preparation for the game, or his decision making throughout the game.

I hate to say it, it works. Just look at all the Dungy slob knocking going on in this thread.

You're right. I bet Dungy has been cooking this up his whole life.
Even now that he's not coaching...he's pretending to be nice just in case he gets back into it someday.

Are you people really so jaded that you can't imagine a person who is truly happy and loves the Lord?

That's really sad.

[Eminem]

You're right. I bet Dungy has been cooking this up his whole life.
Even now that he's not coaching...he's pretending to be nice just in case he gets back into it someday.

Are you people really so jaded that you can't imagine a person who is truly happy and loves the Lord?

That's really sad.

I don't think you've been on spurstalk long enough to know that the board is full of atheists and they scoff at religious people more than the mookie crew scoffs at me.

[SpursFanFirst]

I don't think you've been on spurstalk long enough to know that the board is full of atheists and they scoff at religious people more than the mookie crew scoffs at me.

I've been on this board a few years now. I just don't post a whole lot...well, not as much as many others anyway.

I know there are a lot of atheists on here...but to insist Dungy is using his beliefs to get a free pass is ridiculous.

[Kermit]

I've been on this board a few years now. I just don't post a whole lot...well, not as much as many others anyway.

I know there are a lot of atheists on here...but to insist Dungy is using his beliefs to get a free pass is ridiculous.

why?

[SpursFanFirst]

The man has devoted his whole life to being a Christian and serving the Lord.
Do you believe he did that just on the off chance it'll help him get a free pass someday as an NFL coach?

This is such an insane argument. I still maintain it's sad that there are so many jaded people on this board that they can't see the good in people. They just assume the decent ones are "acting" and they're only out for themselves.

[Kermit]

The man has devoted his whole life to being a Christian and serving the Lord.
Do you believe he did that just on the off chance it'll help him get a free pass someday as an NFL coach?

This is such an insane argument. I still maintain it's sad that there are so many jaded people on this board that they can't see the good in people. They just assume the decent ones are "acting" and they're only out for themselves.

how is it insane? are you saying that there aren't "christians" out there who misrepresent themselves? people have a right to be cynical.

[Blake]

Tony Dungy's agenda is Tony Dungy. Just like every other snake oil salesman out there.

how do you know this?


If you're a God fearing man, great. Just don't take a holier-than-thou stance with everybody and use it to sell books.

so you read the book?


I really wonder how high the bidding war got between, Dungy, Sharpton, & Jesse for the right to be Michael Vick's "mentor".

http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos/2009/04/19/dungyx.jpg

http://images.usatoday.com/sports/_photos/2009/04/19/dungy2x.jpg


...."He could have absolutely been doing anything else, but decided to spend time with us," said Traveguz Butler, 34, serving a 30-year sentence that extends to December 2028 for carjacking, robbery and false imprisonment. "It's uplifting. I'm glad that he was able to lower himself down to our level."

At a place where there are seven formal head counts each day — and as nearly two dozen armed guards kept close watch — Dungy did not merely lecture from an arm's length. After a 20-minute speech, he was swarmed by prisoners and spent a half-hour in face-to-face conversations.

George "Big Country" Edmonds, serving a life sentence for murder, got Dungy's autograph.

"I've got something to talk about for a long time," Edmonds said. "Sometimes when people come in, they won't even shake your hand. But he's out here in the middle of us."

Dungy spent six hours at Hardee, including more than an hour with inmates in solitary confinement. Then it was a trip to the work camp, where he ate the prison food for lunch — shredded turkey smothered in a bland, tomato-based sauce, cold pasta, carrots, cucumber salad and yellow cake that prisoners who quickly flowed through the cafeteria in 15-minute shifts raved was better than usual.........

......Offers for Dungy to hit the speaking circuit and join various community-service causes provide many options. Following up on the success of the biographical Quiet Strength, which reached No. 1 on the New York Times' best-seller's list, Dungy released Uncommon in February. A guidebook of sorts, centered around faith-based principles for life, it also became a best-seller status — and increased demand for Dungy. But he is reluctant to spread himself thin.

He admires President Obama (he and Lauren attended the inauguration), but Dungy turned down a White House invitation to be on a council for faith-based, neighborhood partnerships.

There also was a call from DeMaurice Smith, the new executive director of the NFL Players Association. Smith, gearing up for labor talks with the league, asked Dungy to serve in a new position as liason to the NFL. Dungy declined.

"I want to be helpful," says Dungy, who worked 31 years in the NFL as a player or coach. "If they ask for my opinion on things I'll be glad to give it. But I'm not really looking for a full-time job."

But Dungy says he will increase his participation with the prison ministry that Brown, 82, a one-time high school football coach and ex-pastor, established in 1976 with visits to a former player who was imprisoned for murder......

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2009-04-19-tony-dungy-cover_N.htm


I wonder what how high the bidding was got between Dungy, Sharpton and Jesse for the right to be the guest speaker at this prison.

I wonder if it was more than the $5+ million a year he was getting as head coach because Dungy is all about Dungy.

You're an idiot.

[monosylab1k]

It's great that Dungy can spend all his time in front of cameras mentoring prisoners and Michael Vick. It's just too bad there weren't cameras around his family, maybe that would have prompted Dungy to mentor his own son before he killed himself.

[J.T.]

the longhorns kicker crosses himself before every kick he makes

guess he's furthering the his own catholic agenda in the ncaa now isn't he

[Blake]

It's great that Dungy can spend all his time in front of cameras mentoring prisoners and Michael Vick.

how much has Dungy made off of all this self promoting?


It's just too bad there weren't cameras around his family, maybe that would have prompted Dungy to mentor his own son before he killed himself.

how would cameras around his family have prompted Dungy to mentor his son before he killed himself?

[J.T.]

It's great that Dungy can spend all his time in front of cameras mentoring prisoners and Michael Vick. It's just too bad there weren't cameras around his family, maybe that would have prompted Dungy to mentor his own son before he killed himself.

Maybe if cameras had been around your father when he was mentoring you, you wouldn't have turned out such a faggot.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

how would cameras around his family have prompted Dungy to mentor his son before he killed himself?


I'm not agreeing with Monos here, but I think the point is that Dungy seems to always look extra nurturing and caring when there's a camera stuck in his face, and that if he was like that around his son, he wouldn't have killed himself. Again, I'm not agreeing, just trying to piece it together.

Some people have psychological problems that no parent can see coming. The general point about a fake camera persona I do agree with. We all know the Kobe Bryant we saw mentoring and being nice to his teammates during "Kobe Doin' Work" is not the same the Kobe Bryant in team meetings or at practices that had VladRad demanding a trade away from a championship favorite and Lamar Odom on the brink of taking less money with Miami.

[J.T.]

I'm not agreeing with Monos here, but I think the point is that Dungy seems to always look extra nurturing and caring when there's a camera stuck in his face, and that if he was like that around his son, he wouldn't have killed himself. Again, I'm not agreeing, just trying to piece it together.

Some people have psychological problems that no parent can see coming. The general point about a fake camera persona I do agree with. We all know the Kobe Bryant we saw mentoring and being nice to his teammates during "Kobe Doin' Work" is not the same the Kobe Bryant in team meetings or at practices that had VladRad demanding a trade away from a championship favorite and Lamar Odom on the brink of taking less money with Miami.

Dungy-Kobe in this particular case is a weak comparison, but I'll give you a mulligan because it's really hard to agree with mono here when he's talking out of his ass just to be an asshole.

[MajorMike]

Wow, talk about a thread hijacking.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Dungy-Kobe in this particular case is a weak comparison, but I'll give you a mulligan because it's really hard to agree with mono here when he's talking out of his ass just to be an asshole.


Yes it is, which is again why I'm not necessarily agreeing. IMO, Dungy seems like a genuine human being who is nice all the time. I don't know enough about him to make assumptions, for all I know he could be a big phony.

[Kermit]

Yes it is, which is again why I'm not necessarily agreeing. IMO, Dungy seems like a genuine human being who is nice all the time. I don't know enough about him to make assumptions, for all I know he could be a big phony.

please. everyone knows that dungy is infallible.

[MajorMike]

So I am assuming anything mono's kids do negative in his life will be because he was a bad father and not because they have free will. God grants free will but I guess as a father you can block it like you can HBO on the tele.

[stretch]

lets get back on track, morons

vince young better play this week

[dirk4mvp]

He's starting Sunday. Time for him to suck some more.

[J.T.]

He's starting Sunday. Time for him to suck some more.

you know you can't play the dad rock card with those frampton lyrics under your screen name right?

[Spursfan092120]

Can't do any worse than -7 yards passing...that's for damn sure...and with a winless team, you can only go up...Vince should feel comfortable out there.

[dirk4mvp]

you know you can't play the dad rock card with those frampton lyrics under your screen name right?

you must have me confused with greg oden.

[J.T.]

Can't do any worse than -7 yards passing...that's for damn sure...and with a winless team, you can only go up...Vince should feel comfortable out there.

damn it beavis, you butt munch. this wants us to score with his wife. and he's gonna pay us. we can buy a new tv.

[stretch]

damn it beavis, you butt munch. this wants us to score with his wife. and he's gonna pay us. we can buy a new tv.

lol

[Goran Dragic]

Uh oh, Stretch is gonna be all butt hurt this week after VY stinks it up

[Kermit]

Uh oh, Stretch is gonna be all butt hurt this week after VY stinks it up

I don't think anyone believes he's going world-beater. You don't start/play for a year and go gangbusters. He's got until the end of the season to look half-way decent in order for them to drum up some trade possibilities. Otherwise, they're going to cut his ass. Vince's days in a Titans uniform are numbered regardless of whether or not he plays like he did at UT.

[Goran Dragic]

I don't think anyone believes he's going world-beater.


According the Stench, he's won "everywhere he's gone", so it shouldn't be a problem for Vince the GOAT to turn their team around.

[J.T.]

damn it beavis, you butt munch. this guy wants us to score with his wife. and he's gonna pay us. we can buy a new tv.

yeah. heh heh. with two remotes!

[Kermit]

According the Stench, he's won "everywhere he's gone", so it shouldn't be a problem for Vince the GOAT to turn their team around.

He has won everywhere he's gone. He's also been a liability in a lot of games he's played in. Hopefully the Titans coaching staff will let him play his style of football and not try and turn him into Tom Brady. That's been the biggest fucking failure I've ever seen. Let Vince be Vince and maybe he'll make good of a horrid situation. He's not a pocket quarterback.

[monosylab1k]

According the Stench, he's won "everywhere he's gone"

Have you taken a look at his record as a starter?

[SpursFanFirst]

damn it beavis, you butt munch. this wants us to score with his wife. and he's gonna pay us. we can buy a new tv.

:lol I miss B & B

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Here is the catch---

For VY supporters out there:

Would you rather VY get amazing stats, high QB rating, but lose the game?

Or would you rather him have abysmal stats, a 35.2 passer rating, but win the game?


Because theres no way in hell he's going to have good stats and win the game.

I'd rather him get the W.

[DAF86]

10/12 80 yds - 1 td, 5 car. 24 yds. Titans 10 - Jaguars 0