Awww, SNL too mean to Obama. CNN to the rescue.

[DarrinS]

The MSM still won't take off their Obama bibs.

I've never seen an SNL skit disected and analyzed in this way.

They even threw in part of Tina Fey's impression of Palin for good measure.

I wonder if this is why Fox's "Red Eye" has more viewers at 3:00 am than CNN does at 8:00 pm?


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[Winehole23]

I've seen them do it before. Dissecting late night TV takes on the President is a classic cable news time waster.

[101A]

What do y'all think.

Did CNN do this on there own, or were they sent a memo from the WH?

[MiamiHeat]

Red Eye is a fun show, if i am ever up at that time, i always watch it or have it on the background

[clambake]

the red eye is a terrible attempt at comedy.

[NoOptionB]

RedEye is great.

They almost always have a gorgeous lady on and Guttfield is pretty funny.

[jman3000]

Redeye is funny the first time couple of times you see it. Then it just gets lame. His little lines like "she's so hot the oven uses her to cook stuff" or "he's so smart books read him" got played out loooooooong ago.

It's geared towards younger conservatives who are just as obtuse as their parents who watch in the daytime.

[Supergirl]

Politifact analyzes the skit too: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2009/oct/05/saturday-night-live-obama-campaign-promises/

(and I believe their article was up before CNN did the story)

[DarrinS]

Politifact analyzes the skit too: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2009/oct/05/saturday-night-live-obama-campaign-promises/

(and I believe their article was up before CNN did the story)


Where do you think CNN got their information?

[Crookshanks]

Hmmm - I don't recall anyone doing a "fact check" on the Tina Fey Sarah Palin skits. In fact, there are still many, many people who think Sarah Palin actually said "I can see Russia from my house".

This just goes back to the fact that Obama is very thin-skinned and can't take criticism from anyone. I mean - how utterly stupid is it that CNN is "fact-checking" a SNL skit?

[Supergirl]

Hmmm - I don't recall anyone doing a "fact check" on the Tina Fey Sarah Palin skits. In fact, there are still many, many people who think Sarah Palin actually said "I can see Russia from my house".

This just goes back to the fact that Obama is very thin-skinned and can't take criticism from anyone. I mean - how utterly stupid is it that CNN is "fact-checking" a SNL skit?

Uh...I am pretty sure Obama could care less about what SNL does. What makes you think CNN or Politifact did their pieces in response to anything Obama said or did? I think they did their pieces because they thought people would find it interesting, i.e. - ratings for CNN, website hits for Politifact.

[Shastafarian]

This just goes back to the fact that Obama is very thin-skinned and can't take criticism from anyone. Do you think Obama commissioned this CNN expose?

I mean - how utterly stupid is it that CNN is "fact-checking" a SNL skit?
Pretty stupid. Though I could think of things that are more stupid.

[Spurminator]

This is pretty dumb.

[TheProfessor]

Hmmm - I don't recall anyone doing a "fact check" on the Tina Fey Sarah Palin skits. In fact, there are still many, many people who think Sarah Palin actually said "I can see Russia from my house".

This just goes back to the fact that Obama is very thin-skinned and can't take criticism from anyone. I mean - how utterly stupid is it that CNN is "fact-checking" a SNL skit?
You think Obama is on the phone with CNN making sure they fact-check late-night comedy? :lol

[Crookshanks]

You think Obama is on the phone with CNN making sure they fact-check late-night comedy? :lol
Not Obama - but Rahm Emanuel doesn't seem too far-fetched. Obama is all about how he looks and he's an egomaniacal narcissist - and he doesn't take criticism very well.

And this is the President who's been on Leno and Letterman - so I think he maybe does care what late-night audiences think.

[Shastafarian]

Not Obama - but Rahm Emanuel doesn't seem too far-fetched.So it's based on you making it all up.

Obama is all about how he looks and he's an egomaniacal narcissist - and he doesn't take criticism very well.Based on what? You making it all up again? Did Obama go out and spend $100,000 on clothes during his campaign or was that someone else?


And this is the President who's been on Leno and Letterman - so I think he maybe does care what late-night audiences think.
Jesus christ I hope you don't have children.

[Winehole23]

Jesus christ I hope you don't have children.What an unkind thing to say.

Massaging the news is part of the political battle. And while it may seem far-fetched to think that late night comedy and fake news shows are very high on the President's list of priorities they do shape people's views and can be influential -- just consider Tina Fey's Emmy-winning Sarah Palin impression.

[rjv]

all i know is that the guy does a terrible impression.

[Shastafarian]

What an unkind thing to say.Sorry I kicked sand in your vagina. I really hope she doesn't if the thought processes she exhibits here are in any way similar to the thought processes she uses to raise any children she might have.

[Winehole23]

Sorry I kicked sand in your vagina.I'm not sore about it. I just thought it was gauche.

[Winehole23]

I also happen to know that Crookshanks has a grown son.

[Shastafarian]

I'm not sore about it. I just thought it was gauche.
I don't deny that. But that's what immediately came to mind when I read that last statement of hers.

I also happen to know that Crookshanks has a grown son.
Let's hope he thinks for himself.

[hope4dopes]

Wow that's a new one.... of course cnn is hardly a "news" agency, but yeah SNL has always been an outlet to push the envelope too have the state run media castigate them is revealing. I'm sure the WH called up cnn to do a hit piece, I like how they refer to Obama as the leader of the free world. I'm sure they would have never extended that courtesy to Bush, hell they would have never gotten involved in it.
We have the Soros DNC recruiting movie stars to make these propoganda spots about pleding alligance to Obama. I think most of the people that voted for him thought he was a canidate for American Idol.The DNC knows that there's a large segment of numbnuts who are more influenced by the icons of popular culture,and catchy jingos than by a debate or what they will bother to read, to have such a large pop cultural icon cast asspertions on obama is tantomount to saying the emperor or "messiah" has no clothes.Blackeye for the whitehouse.:lol

[hope4dopes]

I don't deny that. But that's what immediately came to mind when I read that last statement of hers.

Let's hope he thinks for himself. You may want to reach puberty before you start discussing child rearing.

[Shastafarian]

You may want to reach puberty before you start discussing child rearing.

I guess your obsession with pre-pubescent boys is rearing its ugly head again.

[hope4dopes]

I guess your obsession with pre-pubescent boys is rearing its ugly head again. only when they become public embarassments.

[Shastafarian]

You admit you have an obsession with pre-pubescent boys.

[hope4dopes]

:sleep

[Shastafarian]

I'm happy I'm not a pre-pubescent boy. I'd have to be worried about hopes4dopes sending me naughty pictures of himself through PM. Glad I dodged that bullet.

[Winehole23]

You'll know you've made the grade when he gives you a pet name.

[Shastafarian]

You'll know you've made the grade when he gives you a pet name.

His pet-name for me is actually the little boy shtick. Maybe I should take it as a compliment cuz it also seems to be a fantasy of his.

[Winehole23]

He calls me precious.

Ugh.

[hope4dopes]

He calls me precious.

Ugh.well you are.

[Shastafarian]

He calls me precious.

Ugh.

Does he know you're not a young boy? Filling him in on that might get him off your back.

[Winehole23]

I won't swear that micca knows anything. He mainly just spouts off. He disdains topics and hates on posters even worse. Hate is what he's mainly about.

[Crookshanks]

I actually have 4 grown children - and all 4 are productive members of society and just as conservative as I am. And - my youngest son is currently serving in the Air Force, and the older two sons were also in the Air Force.

We are a very patriotic family - God, Family and Country!

[TheProfessor]

I actually have 4 grown children - and all 4 are productive members of society and just as conservative as I am.
I commend that. However, believing the POTUS calls a cable news station to ensure they fact-check late night comedy isn't so much conservatism as it is being a crazy person.

[Shastafarian]

I actually have 4 grown children - and all 4 are productive members of society and just as conservative as I am. And - my youngest son is currently serving in the Air Force, and the older two sons were also in the Air Force.

We are a very patriotic family - God, Family and Country!

Being conservative is fine. I just hope they think for themselves.

[Crookshanks]

I commend that. However, believing the POTUS calls a cable news station to ensure they fact-check late night comedy isn't so much conservatism as it is being a crazy person.
I never said Obama called CNN. But I heard a montage this morning of all the news outlets that were commenting on the SNL skit - and all of them were very disapproving - and the comments were very similar. So it doesn't seem that farfetched to me that someone from the administration would put out the talking points and let the media know they're not happy with the skit.

[hope4dopes]

I won't swear that micca knows anything. He mainly just spouts off. He disdains topics and hates on posters even worse. Hate is what he's mainly about. Well that's what all conservatives are about just look at us with our shwastikas at the tea parties. Where as dolts like you and that twit Shasta are full of an enlightened love for mankind.....well some of mankind, the part that agree with you.

[Shastafarian]

I never said Obama called CNN. But I heard a montage this morning of all the news outlets that were commenting on the SNL skit - and all of them were very disapproving - and the comments were very similar. So it doesn't seem that farfetched to me that someone from the administration would put out the talking points and let the media know they're not happy with the skit.You heard a montage? What news agencies were represented in said montage? Who put together said montage? I think I know the answer to the latter.

[Shastafarian]

Well that's what all conservatives are about just look at us with our shwastikas at the tea parties. Where as dolts like you and that twit Shasta are full of an enlightened love for mankind.....well some of mankind, the part that agree with you.

:lol

[Spurminator]

I've definitely noticed a growing frustration with Obama during typically left-leaning satire programs recently. At the very least, it's interesting... especially the awkward studio audience reactions.

[hope4dopes]

I commend that. However, believing the POTUS calls a cable news station to ensure they fact-check late night comedy isn't so much conservatism as it is being a crazy person.
It's called manufacturing consent..the guys that manufactured the myth of the messiah used the press to do it with, they must now us the press to maintain the myth of Obama.

[hope4dopes]

I won't swear that micca knows anything. He mainly just spouts off. He disdains topics and hates on posters even worse. Hate is what he's mainly about. whereas you post other peoples opinions and then try and hope some of there questionable brilliance rubs off on you ...it doesn't. then you grab a banner and say Oh what smart boy am I.Now if that ain't precious what is.

[Winehole23]

whereas you post other peoples opinions and then try and hope some of there questionable brilliance rubs off on you ...it doesn'tActually, I more hope it will rub off on others.

This is a current affairs forum, micca. Posting someone else's opinion and then holding it up for praise or ridicule is routine. For many of us anyway.

For you it's more like the stall in a public restroom.

[TheProfessor]

I never said Obama called CNN. But I heard a montage this morning of all the news outlets that were commenting on the SNL skit - and all of them were very disapproving - and the comments were very similar. So it doesn't seem that farfetched to me that someone from the administration would put out the talking points and let the media know they're not happy with the skit.
Except Fox, I assume.

I'm not saying CNN isn't hypocritical to prop up Obama in this context when they went so far as to laugh along with Palin's mockery. But the idea that this administration controls that in little meetings with mainstream media? Yeesh.

[TheProfessor]

It's called manufacturing consent..the guys that manufactured the myth of the messiah used the press to do it with, they must now us the press to maintain the myth of Obama.
Actually, Crookshanks sounds less and less crazy the more you post. And if you really want to get the most out of the metaphor, I would call it "manufacturing mystique." Little more poetic.

[EVAY]

It makes sense to me that SNL is finally doing some harder satire on Obama. As someone mentioned, the far left is upset with him because he hasn't been as liberal as they wanted him to be with respect to Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.

The surprising thing to me is that folks on this forum are not deliriously happy about SNL taking him on. It undoubtedly means that the proverbial 'honeymoon' is well and truly over, and that he will no longer be treated with kid gloves by those who make their living from plitical satire. So what? Isn't that what the right wing wants?

I never thought that he had the depth of 'love' that some on the right feared. I have always thought that the positive, even rock-star status he enjoyed for a while was attributable to what he WASN'T more than what he was. That is, he wasn't mean, he wasn't old, he hadn't had all his dirty laundry aired in public...so people were in love with the idea that he might actually be as different as he promised them he was. Of course he is not.
He is...wait for it...a Politician!!!

Mostly, I think, people wanted to get behind somebody different, and he fit that bill. Now, he is what he is...a good or bad policy guy (depending on your world-view), but mostly another politician. For those of us who had that figured out fairly early, it is no particular loss, and I look forward to some good satire.

For those of you who are convinced of a vast left-wing media conspiracy, however, I would mention this: I have heard that there is medication available that wil alleviate some of that manifestly paranoid angst.

[NoOptionB]

Best way to get over the manifested paranoid angst is to just quit caring.

[ashbeeigh]

SNL has mentioned healthcare at least once a week in several sketches. They did a few things on it in last week's Thursday Weekend Update show. It's very clear that the writer's are getting upset with him.

And if you're going to watch SNL at least watch it for the good shit..aka the shorts and andy dressing up in bubble wrap. geez.

[EVAY]

Best way to get over the manifested paranoid angst is to just quit caring.

Well, yes, there is that. I don't see it happening, though, do you?

Your suggestion assumes a level of moderation that is not evident from reading the posts on this forum.

[hope4dopes]

Actually, Crookshanks sounds less and less crazy the more you post. And if you really want to get the most out of the metaphor, I would call it "manufacturing mystique." Little more poetic.noam chomsky

[Cry Havoc]

SNL has mentioned healthcare at least once a week in several sketches. They did a few things on it in last week's Thursday Weekend Update show. It's very clear that the writer's are getting upset with him.

And if you're going to watch SNL at least watch it for the good shit..aka the shorts and andy dressing up in bubble wrap. geez.

I love it.

When they say something negative toward conservatives, it's "they're liberal scum who are so slanted that you can't listen to anything they say" or at the very least, "well it's a parody show so it doesn't matter".

Now all of a sudden because they're taking small shots at the current administration (which they had a FIELD day with while Clinton, a democrat in case you have forgotten, was in office, and that was even before Monica & Co.) "conservatives" rush to legitimize such sketches as evidence that people don't like Obama as much.

Amazing. If the media disagrees with you, they're unfairly biased. If they side with your viewpoint, suddenly it's because they've "seen the light". The exact same thing applies to Stewart and Colbert.

Nice little Partridge family house you've got there.

[mogrovejo]

I commend that. However, believing the POTUS calls a cable news station to ensure they fact-check late night comedy isn't so much conservatism as it is being a crazy person.

Well, of course it won't be the POTUS making the call, but I'd be extremely surprised if there aren't people in the Administration - and particularly in this one, the first to engage in a "permanent campaign" philosophy (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/horseraceblog/2009/10/the_olympics_obama_and_the_per.html) - taking care of that.

I'd recommend Alastair Campbell's book The Blair Years (http://www.google.pt/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.co.uk%2FBlair-Years-Alastair-Campbell%2Fdp%2F0091796296&ei=2NbLSujsE4T54AbkxNHvBQ&usg=AFQjCNEnbKUzec4sakXHnsT0hBktbrA_Mw). Extremely interesting.

[DarrinS]

I love it.

When they say something negative toward conservatives, it's "they're liberal scum who are so slanted that you can't listen to anything they say" or at the very least, "well it's a parody show so it doesn't matter".

Now all of a sudden because they're taking small shots at the current administration (which they had a FIELD day with while Clinton, a democrat in case you have forgotten, was in office, and that was even before Monica & Co.) "conservatives" rush to legitimize such sketches as evidence that people don't like Obama as much.



Actually, you missed the point completely. It's not that they satirize the left or right (that's what they're supposed to do -- to BOTH sides), it's that it was done to Obama and CNN felt they had to come out and refute a SKIT, point by point.

[iggypop123]

Hmmm - I don't recall anyone doing a "fact check" on the Tina Fey Sarah Palin skits. In fact, there are still many, many people who think Sarah Palin actually said "I can see Russia from my house".

This just goes back to the fact that Obama is very thin-skinned and can't take criticism from anyone. I mean - how utterly stupid is it that CNN is "fact-checking" a SNL skit?

wasnt tina fey basically quoting palin word for word?

[Cry Havoc]

wasnt tina fey basically quoting palin word for word?

Yeah, they even did comparisons on youtube. Palin's speeches were so bad the SNL directors famously didn't even have to change it to make it funny.

[Cry Havoc]

Actually, you missed the point completely. It's not that they satirize the left or right (that's what they're supposed to do -- to BOTH sides), it's that it was done to Obama and CNN felt they had to come out and refute a SKIT, point by point.

And it's a ridiculous move by CNN. But I think blaming the Obama administration or attempting to attribute CNN's take on SNL to the White House is a massive reach.

[Crookshanks]

wasnt tina fey basically quoting palin word for word?
You just made my point...

[Shastafarian]

That's why I say I, like every American I'm speaking with, were ill about this position that we have been put in. Where it is the taxpayers looking to bail out. But ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health care reform that is needed to help shore up our economy. Um, helping, oh, it's got to be about job creation, too. Shoring up our economy, and getting it back on the right track. So health care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions, and tax relief for Americans, and trade -- we have got to see trade as opportunity, not as, uh, competitive, um, scary thing, but one in five jobs created in the trade sector today. We've got to look at that as more opportunity. All of those things under the umbrella of job creation.


We're sayin "hey, why bailout Fannie and Freddie and not me?" But ultimately what the bailout does is help those that are concerned about the health care reform that is needed to help shore up our economy to help, um, it's gotta all be about job creation too. Also too, shoring up our economy and putting Fannie and Freddie back on the right track and so health care reform and reducing taxes and reigning in spending cuz Barack Obama, heh, ya know *licks finger and sticks up*. You know we've got to accompany tax reduction and tax relief for Americans also so having a dollar value meal at restaurants. That's gonna help. But 1 in 5 jobs being created today under the umbrella of job creation, that, ya know, also.