Obama refuses to meet with the Dali Lama

[hope4dopes]

Monday, October 5, 2009
By Kellie, posted in News


President Barack Obama has refused to meet the Dalai Lama in Washington this week in a move to curry favour with the Chinese.

The decision came after China stepped up a campaign urging nations to shun the Tibetan spiritual leader.

It means Mr Obama will become the first president not to welcome the Nobel peace prize winner to the White House since the Dalai Lama began visiting Washington in 1991.

The Buddhist monk arrived in Washington on Monday for a week of meetings with Congressional leaders, celebrity supporters and interest groups, but the president will not see him until after he has made his first visit to China next month.

Samdhong Rinpoche, the Tibetan prime minister-in-exile, has accused the United States and other Western nations of “appeasement” toward China as its economic weight grows.

“Today, economic interests are much greater than other interests,” he said.

US officials told Tibetans that they wanted to work with China on critical issues, including nuclear weapons proliferation in North Korea and Iran, according to The Washington Post. Mr Obama sent a delegation to the Dalai Lama’s home in exile in India last month that confirmed the meeting would be deferred.

Mr Obama has changed his position on Tibet since his election campaign.

In April 2008, he was joined by Hillary Clinton, then his rival for the Democratic nomination and now his Secretary of State, in calling on George W Bush to boycott the Beijing Olympics opening ceremony in protest at the bloody repression of a popular uprising in Tibet.

“If the Chinese do not take steps to help stop the genocide in Darfur and to respect the dignity, security, and human rights of the Tibetan people, then the President should boycott the opening ceremonies,” they said.

[Crookshanks]

Hmmm - how things change now that Obama is the POTUS. But we can't afford to piss off China, considering they pretty much own us. Sad, sad, sad...

[jack sommerset]

Mr Obama has changed his position on Tibet since his election campaign.

Shocking

[DarrinS]

So, I'm on the first tee with him. I give him the driver. He hauls off and whacks one - big hitter, the Lama - long, into a ten-thousand foot crevasse, right at the base of this glacier. Do you know what the Lama says? Gunga galunga... gunga, gunga-galunga

[hope4dopes]

wow where are the usual suspects ......conspicuously silent . So we are to meet without any preconditions the lunatic from Iran who wants to commit genocide and light off nukes.We are to meet with that ape Chavez who is buying military tech. from Iran and who so I've heard is brokering a deal to mine for uranium in venezuela with the help of Iran.We are supposed to give lines of credit to the Vampire in Cuba.We are propping up central american dictators who wish to steal from their people their own constitution.We can talk to khadafy, we have tea with the asshole in north korea...But one of the greatest teachers of REAL peace in our lifetme is shunned.
There's a whole lotta dumb shits with "FREE TIBET' bumperstickers on there electric car who gonna have to live with the fact that the guy they voted for told the Dali Lama to take a leap.
We are going down the wrong road folks.

[George Gervin's Afro]

wow where are the usual suspects ......conspicuously silent . So we are to meet without any preconditions the lunatic from Iran who wants to commit genocide and light off nukes.We are to meet with that ape Chavez who is buying military tech. from Iran and who so I've heard is brokering a deal to mine for uranium in venezuela with the help of Iran.We are supposed to give lines of credit to the Vampire in Cuba.We are propping up central american dictators who wish to steal from their people their own constitution.We can talk to khadafy, we have tea with the asshole in north korea...But one of the greatest teachers of REAL peace in our lifetme is shunned.
There's a whole lotta dumb shits with "FREE TIBET' bumperstickers on there electric car who gonna have to live with the fact that the guy they voted for told the Dali Lama to take a leap.
We are going down the wrong road folks.

where did he tell him to take a leap? do you understand the dynamics in the complex world of geopolitics? or are you playing stupid?


on a side note congrats on getting your spoon fed talking points into one post:toast

[Winehole23]

The Buddhist monk arrived in Washington on Monday for a week of meetings with Congressional leaders, celebrity supporters and interest groups, but the president will not see him until after he has made his first visit to China next month.Protocol is a bitch.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Protocol is a bitch.

no you don't get it. obama is throwing him under the bus..:rolleyes

[hope4dopes]

where did he tell him to take a leap? do you understand the dynamics in the complex world of geopolitics? or are you playing stupid? Do you undestand right and wrong, courage and cowardice,truth and lie, sustaniable future and dead end road.
The truth aint complex, it may inconveient but it aint complex.what is complex is all the wrapping you try and hide it under,or the lengths people go to in order to avoid it.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Do you undestand right and wrong, courage and cowardice,truth and lie, sustaniable future and dead end road.
The truth aint complex, it may inconveient but it aint complex.what is complex is all the wrapping you try and hide it under,or the lengths people go to in order to avoid it.

ok dead ender whatever you say...:lmao

how does this gibberish you post have t do with obama delaying meeting the dali lama. you do realize he's meeting with in a few weeks don't you?

[hope4dopes]

Protocol is a bitch. what the fuck he needs permission...and you call it protocol you go ahead stick your nose back in the crack, just don't ask me to join you......not my thing.

[George Gervin's Afro]

what the fuck he needs permission...and you call it protocol you go ahead stick your nose back in the crack, just don't ask me to join you......not my thing.

so are you saying that we should end all political protocal now? why all of a sudden?

[Winehole23]

what the fuck he needs permission...and you call it protocol you go ahead stick your nose back in the crack, just don't ask me to join you......not my thing.More scatology. Your imagination is a jackpot of paraphilias (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/paraphilia), micca. Just don't ask me to join you.

Oh, wait. By posting it in a public forum you just asked everyone to join you.

How considerate.

[hope4dopes]

More scatology. Your imagination is a jackpot of paraphilias, micca. Just don't ask me to join you.

Oh, wait. By posting it in a public forum you just asked everyone to join you.

How considerate. if the analogy fits bitch.

[hope4dopes]

More scatology. Your imagination is a jackpot of paraphilias, micca. Just don't ask me to join you.

Oh, wait. By posting it in a public forum you just asked everyone to join you.

How considerate. if the analogy fits bitch wear it.

[Winehole23]

No thanks, I'm not an Obama man. Just normally endowed with reason and good temper. I can see that pisses you off.

[hope4dopes]

No thanks, I'm not an Obama man. Just normally endowed with reason and good temper. I can see that pisses you off. Please precious good temper? you're one of the most punitive little pricks on this board. As for reason...well I guess that's in the eye of the beholder.

[Winehole23]

Please precious good temper? you're one of the most punitive little pricks on this board.I get along with most posters here. I have a problem with you because of your over the top vulgarity and disrespect. I dislike bullies and weak bullshit, so you haven't exactly seen my best side.

Ride with an outlaw, die with an outlaw.

E44VYR3tTE8

[George Gervin's Afro]

Monday, October 5, 2009
By Kellie, posted in News


President Barack Obama has refused to meet the Dalai Lama in Washington this week in a move to curry favour with the Chinese.

The decision came after China stepped up a campaign urging nations to shun the Tibetan spiritual leader.

It means Mr Obama will become the first president not to welcome the Nobel peace prize winner to the White House since the Dalai Lama began visiting Washington in 1991.

The Buddhist monk arrived in Washington on Monday for a week of meetings with Congressional leaders, celebrity supporters and interest groups, but the president will not see him until after he has made his first visit to China next month.

Samdhong Rinpoche, the Tibetan prime minister-in-exile, has accused the United States and other Western nations of “appeasement” toward China as its economic weight grows.

“Today, economic interests are much greater than other interests,” he said.

US officials told Tibetans that they wanted to work with China on critical issues, including nuclear weapons proliferation in North Korea and Iran, according to The Washington Post. Mr Obama sent a delegation to the Dalai Lama’s home in exile in India last month that confirmed the meeting would be deferred.

Mr Obama has changed his position on Tibet since his election campaign.

In April 2008, he was joined by Hillary Clinton, then his rival for the Democratic nomination and now his Secretary of State, in calling on George W Bush to boycott the Beijing Olympics opening ceremony in protest at the bloody repression of a popular uprising in Tibet.

“If the Chinese do not take steps to help stop the genocide in Darfur and to respect the dignity, security, and human rights of the Tibetan people, then the President should boycott the opening ceremonies,” they said.

where's the link? I'd like to know which conservative website this came from. I've bolded the author's opinion ..of course then you repeat it isif it is a fact..

[LnGrrrR]

Please precious good temper? you're one of the most punitive little pricks on this board. As for reason...well I guess that's in the eye of the beholder.

Micca, you're spiteful as heck. I mean, in a way, it's impressive.

[clambake]

it's the gang mentality when you hang a confederate flag outside of your double-wide.

i saw the documentary about micca.

[ChumpDumper]

where's the link? I'd like to know which conservative website this came from. I've bolded the author's opinion ..of course then you repeat it isif it is a fact..It's Kellie.

She posts in News.

[Shastafarian]

where's the link? I'd like to know which conservative website this came from. I've bolded the author's opinion ..of course then you repeat it isif it is a fact..

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/6262938/Barack-Obama-cancels-meeting-with-Dalai-Lama-to-keep-China-happy.html

[George Gervin's Afro]

Lodi Gyaltsen Gyari, the Washington-based special envoy to the Dalai Lama, issued a brief statement, saying: "We came to this arrangement because we believe that it is in our long-term interests."

A White House official said the administration and the Tibetans had "agreed the timing would be best after the visit".


Wait a minute... the title of thread is a LIE..

[Blake]

Saunders said the Dalai Lama actually agreed with the Obama administration's decision and believed it was important the United States and China develop a good relationship.

The Dalai Lama believes "it is important for it to be strong, it's important for it to be cooperative," she said.

A White House official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said, "We have made clear that the president absolutely intends to meet the Dalai Lama.".............

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091005/ts_nm/us_usa_obama_dalailama

what's the problem?

[LnGrrrR]

what's the problem?

You're letting facts get in the way of righteous indignation. You'll never make it to CPAC with that attitude!

[Blake]

You'll never make it to CPAC with that attitude!

what if I wear my hope4dopes t-shirt with matching wild cobra jeans?

[Nbadan]

Since when did the GOP give fuck about the Dali Lama?

[Winehole23]

Crocodile tears. Any handy club will do if the target is Obama.

[Nbadan]

...but...... but he won't meet with the Dali Lama!

Whaaaa! :cry

[hope4dopes]

i get along with most posters here. I have a problem with you because of your over the top vulgarity and disrespect. I dislike bullies and weak bullshit, so you haven't exactly seen my best side.

Ride with an outlaw, die with an outlaw.

e44vyr3tte8 you lie

[hope4dopes]

Micca, you're spiteful as heck. I mean, in a way, it's impressive. You forgot nazi and racist, yes you and whinehole and Pelosi are all having your sensibelities raped by the MEAN old conservatives, you all long for the days of civil discourse like under bush.

[LnGrrrR]

You forgot nazi and racist, yes you and whinehole and Pelosi are all having your sensibelities raped by the MEAN old conservatives, you all long for the days of civil discourse like under bush.

I didn't say you didn't have the right to be a bombastic fool, or that I'm offended by it. I just pointed out that you are, and it's rather tedious.

[hope4dopes]

And you have the right to be ridiculous and passe.See how we can all agree if we just keep it civilized.

[Winehole23]

Passe'. Not au courant and civilized like micca.

[Winehole23]

Read it and weep, LnGrrrR.

[Cry Havoc]

Hmmm - how things change now that Obama is the POTUS. But we can't afford to piss off China, considering they pretty much own us. Sad, sad, sad...


wow where are the usual suspects ......conspicuously silent . So we are to meet without any preconditions the lunatic from Iran who wants to commit genocide and light off nukes.We are to meet with that ape Chavez who is buying military tech. from Iran and who so I've heard is brokering a deal to mine for uranium in venezuela with the help of Iran.We are supposed to give lines of credit to the Vampire in Cuba.We are propping up central american dictators who wish to steal from their people their own constitution.We can talk to khadafy, we have tea with the asshole in north korea...But one of the greatest teachers of REAL peace in our lifetme is shunned.
There's a whole lotta dumb shits with "FREE TIBET' bumperstickers on there electric car who gonna have to live with the fact that the guy they voted for told the Dali Lama to take a leap.
We are going down the wrong road folks.


Shocking


So let's get this straight.

Obama doesn't want to meet with the Dalai Lama presently... so you're criticizing him for doing something that the Dalai's own administration agrees with and recommends?

:lmao

You guys continue to reach for criticisms to grasp nothing but thin air. But hey, look at it this way -- at least you look enraged and vindictive!

[hope4dopes]

Samdhong Rinpoche, the Tibetan prime minister-in-exile, has accused the United States and other Western nations of “appeasement” toward China as its economic weight grows.

“Today, economic interests are much greater than other interests,” he said.

[clambake]

micca doesn't care about economic interest anymore.

good to know.

[Crookshanks]

I could care less about the Dali Lama - I certainly don't buy into his teachings. But what I was pointing out that Obama won't meet with him until after he meets with China because he doesn't want to anger the Chinese.

It's a sad situation because we can't afford to piss off the Chinese - if they call in our debt, we're totally screwed! It's sad when a communist country can dictate how our President should do his job.

[Spursmania]

China owns us... And will continue to own us as we spend and spend...

[Spursmania]

I could care less about the Dali Lama - I certainly don't buy into his teachings. But what I was pointing out that Obama won't meet with him until after he meets with China because he doesn't want to anger the Chinese.

It's a sad situation because we can't afford to piss off the Chinese - if they call in our debt, we're totally screwed! It's sad when a communist country can dictate how our President should do his job.

You're right, we're screwed Crook. The writing is on the wall. The meetings held between Saudi Arabia, Japan, France, China and Russia to change the oil currency from the dollar to a universal currency will kill the dollar quicker than shit. This is going to happen. So, I'm buying gold just like I've been buying gold for 2 years now...

[ChumpDumper]

When did you conservatives start caring about Tibet?

Oh yeah....when there was a negative article concerning Obama and Tibet.

Sheep dip.

[Crookshanks]

When did you conservatives start caring about Tibet?

Oh yeah....when there was a negative article concerning Obama and Tibet.

Sheep dip.
Reading comprehension is not your strong suit. It's not that we care about Tibet, it's that China is pulling Obama's strings - and that's what we have a problem with.

BTW - isn't Tibet the cause the hollywood libs really love? I bet Richard Gere isn't too happy that Obama won't meet with the Dali Lama until after he meets with China.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit. It's not that we care about Tibet, it's that China is pulling Obama's strings - and that's what we have a problem with.

BTW - isn't Tibet the cause the hollywood libs really love? I bet Richard Gere isn't too happy that Obama won't meet with the Dali Lama until after he meets with China.

Both parties agreed to meet next month, so what's the problem? Oh wait..it's obama derangement syndrome never mind..

[ChumpDumper]

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit. It's not that we care about Tibet, it's that China is pulling Obama's strings - and that's what we have a problem with.So -- you never had a problem with China's pulling Bush's strings.

Why?

Because you are a hypocrite.


BTW - isn't Tibet the cause the hollywood libs really love? I bet Richard Gere isn't too happy that Obama won't meet with the Dali Lama until after he meets with China.Now you care about Tibet AND Richard Gere?

:rollin

[Cry Havoc]

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit. It's not that we care about Tibet, it's that China is pulling Obama's strings - and that's what we have a problem with.

BTW - isn't Tibet the cause the hollywood libs really love? I bet Richard Gere isn't too happy that Obama won't meet with the Dali Lama until after he meets with China.

The Dalai Lama's own advisers recommended meeting at a later date with Obama.

Who's reading comprehension is failing here?

[Crookshanks]

You know chump - I wasn't happy with a lot of the things Bush did. I didn't like his spending and I didn't agree with his views on illegal immigration, and I thought we should've been far more agressive in both Afghanistan and Iraq. But this isn't about Bush - he's not the President now. It's soley about the decisions that Obama is making - and he's not doing so hot.

And where did it say I care about Tibet OR Richard Gere? I merely stated that the hollywood crowd really loves the Dali Lama and they are always talking about the situation in Tibet. Since Obama is "their guy", I simply posited that they probably aren't happy with Obama's actions. I personally don't care one way or the other - I just stated an opinion. That is okay - right?

[Crookshanks]

The Dalai Lama's own advisers recommended meeting at a later date with Obama.

Who's reading comprehension is failing here?
They didn't RECOMMEND it, they simply AGREED with Obama's decision. And what choice did they have?

[Cry Havoc]

They didn't RECOMMEND it, they simply AGREED with Obama's decision. And what choice did they have?

To, I don't now, not agree?

[Crookshanks]

To, I don't now, not agree?
And if they hadn't agreed? Do you think Obama would've changed his mind about the timing of his meeting?

THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS THREAD! Right, wrong or indifferent - Obama put off his meeting with the Dali Lama because he didn't want to piss off the Chinese. Some people are okay with that, others - not so much.

[jman3000]

Ummm... the DL didn't want to upset the Chinese either. They're the ones being oppressed. Why the fuck would they want to make it worse on themselves over something so trivial?

Oh, I forgot... Obama did something so all the robots have to chime in.

[in2deep]

My sources tell me Obama met the DL in secret. smart move IMO

[Cry Havoc]

Oh, I forgot... Obama did something so all the robots have to chime in.

Exactly.

If he declined to postpone the meeting, "conservatives" on this board would be ridiculing him for goading the Chinese.

[Rogue]

Nobel prize is devalued.

[jack sommerset]

It's bullshit but if you have to piss off one Dali Lama to make China happy that is a small price to pay. The big deal is he sent Pelosi to meet with him. Poor bastard!

[Rogue]

It's bullshit but if you have to piss off one Dali Lama to make China happy that is a small price to pay. The big deal is he sent Pelosi to meet with him. Poor bastard!
I kind of agree Barack Obama isn't an ideal president but I have to be outraged when hearing the president being offensively called "poor bastard" by a yellow piece of shit.

No one is fawning that commie country by snubbing DL. President just did the right thing laminating what might stir up those excessively sensitive commies, anyway president doesn't want to see any riot or hear any dumb clumsy condemn during his vist to that sh*#%y country. It's not smart to hit the hive while you're rambling around it, you know.

[mogrovejo]

Oh, the irony.

[ChumpDumper]

Oh, the irony.Why is it ironic?

Please explain.