Why is Ron Artest calling Ric Bucher a dickhead?

[Man In Black]

twitter.com/ricbucher

Artest: looks big, strong + slow. Maggette blew by him. He'll save Kobe from guarding big 2s/3s, but 24 might need to check the quick ones.

twitter.com/thugraider37

RT @RicBucher: Artest: Don't listen to this dickhead! He watched one play. But not the 2 steals or quick the hands.
about 18 hours ago from Echofon

RT @RicBucher: Don't listen to this dickhead! He forgot the first game when I had 12 9 and 7 and 23 mins.
about 18 hours ago from Echofon

@RicBucher: Artest: Don't listen to this dickhead! In preseason you work twice a day and when gametime comes you don't have as much energy.
about 18 hours ago from Echofon

RT @RicBucher: Don't listen to this dickhead! Don't listen to this dickhead! Don't listen to this dickkkheadddd!!!!!!!
about 18 hours ago from Echofon

Why was the dickhead smiling at me today? I did not know he said that until Twitter! He had two chances to tell me that. Don't listen to the
about 18 hours ago from Echofon

RT@artfanatic411: @ThugRaider37 Ron if you aren't making an honest assessment of your play how can you improve? - Noone plays well everytime
about 17 hours ago from Echofon

RT @artfanatic411: Your right. But he is still a dick head. He interviewed me and was just praising the lakers. But that's why I say"...."
about 17 hours ago from Echofon

He is not! I'm still doing me! Still at gym 3hrs later. So don't expect reg season energy Thursday.
about 17 hours ago from Echofon

If yal remember bird was that fast either but a great team defender!! Maybe because if black guys are slow he is not smart enough to play?
about 17 hours ago from Echofon

Luke is not as fast but extremely smart!! And a champion!!! So as I say' Don't listen to this ......
about 17 hours ago from Echofon

Another reason not to listen to this DH. You have to double this strong slow man so Kobe gasol or bynum or fish is open. Vice versa!!
about 17 hours ago from Echofon

So the DH found one lil thing in training camp. History says that as you get older you become less explosive. But did MJ or horry stop?
about 17 hours ago from Echofon

Did glen rice stop? Did Glenn Robinson stop? No they won dick head!! Lakers gave me 33 million for a reason.
about 17 hours ago from Echofon

I will release my official story tomorrow on the old smart athlete! Look out for that.
about 17 hours ago from Echofon

RT @OTG1: Y bring so much to this team that an idiot like Bucher doesn't have the BBall IQ to see. Keep doing you and get that ring.
about 17 hours ago from Echofon

RT @twisting_minds: @ThugRaider37 you need to take a chill pill , your coming of as the dickhead right now.
about 17 hours ago from Echofon


I think Celtics lakers championship will be historic this year! It's going to be hard. San An is a underdog. Don't sleep.!
about 17 hours ago from Echofon

The guy is a bomb, not THE bomb. He should just let his play talk for him, but instead he opts to tell the twitterverse. Way to handle it Artest.


:whine

[Muser]

And it continues.

[DPG21920]

Ric is correct. Ron is slow. He will not be able to guard the quicker players like Ariza did and Kobe will have to do more work on the defensive end.

Ron does guard the bulkier players better and that is something Ariza could not do effectively last year.

I don't understand why Ron is so mad at this? Maybe he is just sensitive because he is self-conscious about it?

[DaDakota]

HAHAHAHAHAHAH !!!

That is why I think Ron Artest is a cancer, and will screw up the Lakers....he is more worried about someone tweeting the truth than he is about actually working on his game.

DD

[Culburn369]

Ric is a dickhead though. Your fandom cites that all the time. It's just not your ox gettin' gored at the moment so yer happy about our ox/sans Daddy gettin' gored.

tee, hee.

[DPG21920]

No, plenty of people in the media call the Spurs old and rip the Spurs all of the time. Fans get butthurt over it, but the Spurs players very rarely say anything. Certainly does not make someone who is accurate a dickhead.

[duncan228]

Ron Artest is still learning Lakers' offense (http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-spw-lakers-web11-2009oct11,0,1275061.story)
He finishes with six points and two rebounds against the Golden State Warriors at the Forum.
By Broderick Turner

He missed more shots than he made, but Ron Artest played the solid defense the Lakers hoped he would when he signed with them this summer.

Artest missed five of the seven shots he took and all four of his three-pointers.

He finished with six points and two rebounds in an exhibition game against the Golden State Warriors on Friday night at the Forum.

"I was actually on," Artest said. "I felt on. I felt great tonight out there."

In the 25 minutes he played, it didn't look as if Artest got in a rhythm.

He mostly strayed on the outside.

Artest muscled his way in for one of his field goals.

"Ron had some [hard] time out there trying to make shots," Lakers Coach Phil Jackson said. "He hesitated on taking shots a few times. We'll get him in rhythm."

On defense, Artest had two steals.

He hustled for loose balls. He used his body on defenders. He helped on defense. He dived on the floor for balls.

"I was trying to take advantage of some loose balls and trying to get a little more active," Artest said.

All of this is still a process for Artest.

He's still trying to learn the offense.

He's still trying to learn where his spot is on the floor, where his teammates like the basketball.

Once in the first quarter, Artest tried to throw a pass to Kobe Bryant with a defender close by.

Artest was able to squeeze the ball in, but Bryant was unable to do anything with it because he was behind the basket.

There was a moment late in the third quarter when there were fewer than 24 seconds left in the quarter when Artest pulled the ball back out after the Lakers got an offensive rebound.

Sasha Vujacic was wide open in the corner and was begging for the ball.

Artest looked at Vujacic and motioned to the clock, indicating that the Lakers were playing for the last shot of the quarter.

After the game, Artest was asked if he's still learning how to operate in the triangle offense.

"Maybe a little bit," Artest said. "But for the most part, I'm catching on. I'd say I'm maybe four or five practices or maybe two or three games away from really getting the offense down, getting to learn everybody.

"But for the most part, that happened already. For the most part, getting familiar with each other, it already happened. Guys are really comfortable playing with one another."

[Culburn369]

No, plenty of people in the media call the Spurs old and rip the Spurs all of the time. Fans get butthurt over it, but the Spurs players very rarely say anything. Certainly does not make someone who is accurate a dickhead.

But, in this case Bucher is a dickhead.

And the Spurs are old & did get butthurt by the Mavs 4-1.

[Muser]

Ric is correct. Ron is slow. He will not be able to guard the quicker players like Ariza did and Kobe will have to do more work on the defensive end.


This is a very good point, Whilst Artest will be able to guard the bulkier players like Anthony and LeBron better than Ariza he will get burned by the quicker players.

[DPG21920]

You might be the worst poster and despite your creative sentences, you lack any creativity with your substance. Just the same things over and over. I see right through your hollowness.

[Man In Black]

But, in this case Bucher is a dickhead.

And the Spurs are old & did get butthurt by the Mavs 4-1.

Considering you say it so often, it sounds like you know how that feels.

Here's a site to find yourself partners:
http://www.gay.com/

What terminology did you use when the Lakers lost a 3-1 deficit to the Suns in 06?

[Culburn369]

You might be the worst poster and despite your creative sentences, you lack any creativity with your substance. Just the same things over and over. I see right through your hollowness.

A course, DPG. Now that you don't have Kobe ringless without Daddy yer lookin' for a fresh booger under our bed. So you've targeted Artest, hopin & prayin' he'll go nutty nuts and you can get off the snide. He may. But, it ain't goin' to erase Kobe riflin' that pass over to Fish and Fish, takin' out that scalpel and diggin' thru the innards of everybody m'fer agin' us.

[DPG21920]

Where did I say any of that? I said Artest will work out. Does not mean that Ric's assessment was not correct. So shhhhhhh girl, don't make sans daddy put you to sleep.

[Culburn369]

What terminology did you use when the Lakers lost a 3-1 deficit to the Suns in 06?

I was inconsolable. Not since the Summer of '84 was I so butthurt. Bryant quit. An unforgiveable act. It was our penultimate low point as an NBA franchise.

[Culburn369]

Where did I say any of that? I said Artest will work out. Does not mean that Ric's assessment was not correct. So shhhhhhh girl, don't make sans daddy put you to sleep.

Uh, huh, you can try that dog & pony show on these other fellows, but, it don't fly with this old f'k.

[DPG21920]

Why are Laker fans so butthurt along with Ron? Ric did not say Ron was going to hurt the team. He simply pointed out an obvious flaw in Ron's game. All players have flaws; that does not make them bad players.

With Ariza, you got better defense with smaller/quicker players and could hide Kobe more on the defensive end.

With Artest, you get a beefed up defender that can guard bulkier players, but now Kobe will have to guard the quicker players.

The Lakers front office thought Ron's skill set would help more, but that does not mean that it did not come without a cost. We will see if they are right.

[Man In Black]

C'mon Loofah. Are you saying that Artest is handling his business the Laker way OR is he doing it his way where he tells the world that he's not to be disrespected because he's Ron Artest and crazy?

[Culburn369]

Dick-head Ric had no words about that, neither did some of you silly posters.

A course not, because Dickhead Ric already wrote the story the minute Artest signed in L.A., he just needed the second game to print it.

[DPG21920]

Uh, huh, you can try that dog & pony show on these other fellows, but, it don't fly with this old f'k.

Well you have been proven wrong on numerous occasions and then you come back with: "you are classified with the company you keep". So don't put words in my mouth you shallow cunny.

[DPG21920]

So Lakaluva, was Ric wrong with his assessment of Ron? Don't go on about his stats or fit. Was Ric accurate with what he said about Artest's game?

[Man In Black]

We'll see...remember he has 3 twitter accounts. That's how much Artest loves to tweet.

[Double-Up]

There are more quick guards than power guards in the league so we'll see how they fair this year defensively.

[Culburn369]

but Ric failed to mention that Maggette was held to 2-8 shooting, 7 points, 0 rebounds, 0 assist, 5 turnovers. Sure Maggette may have blown by Ron on a play, or maybe two, but if you are going to credit him with that, also credit him with Maggette having a horrible game.

That is why Artest is right and Bucher is a dickhead.

[DPG21920]

Fair enough, but do you think that Ron has lost a step? No one will get burned every time, even with a deficiency, but do you think that having Ron trying to guard smaller, quicker players like Ariza will be a problem for Ron?

Like I said, the Lakers front office thought they could use Ron's skillset more than Ariza. Point is, the assessment was spot on and Ariza's deficiencies did not stop the Lakers from winning a title. Will Ron's? Probably not, but it is still a question mark.

[Culburn369]

Wait a minute!!! Did the rules just change? Since when were the Lakers the only team to struggle against quick guards? Since when did we not have the toughest player to guard in the game/ Since when did we not have the trophy? You all have to worry about us, not the opposite.

Luva, the voice of reason & moderation of a Sunday afternoon.

[DPG21920]

I agree totally and that is what I said. The Lakers brass thought having Ron to guard those players was more important that having Ariza to guard the smaller guys. But with regards to Ric's comments, he simply said Ron will have trouble guarding the quicker guys and that Kobe would have to do the job that Ariza once did. That is true.

[BlackBellamy]

I think you're looking at it the wrong. I do think Ron has lost a step, not because of injuries, or age because he's not old, he just put on too much weight. I think he could stand to lose 20 pounds which could help him become more mobile.

100% true. He would be such a greater fit for your club if he would lose some weight. He had obviously put on the lbs. to fit the roles he was intended to in Sac and Hou. I think it's fully reasonable to think that he sheds a few, if nothing else for the minutes he gains in doing so. He was on broken teams the last few cities and had to play a solidly defined role out of position (IMO), versatility should be his goal with Lakes. I would expect good results as an effect of this pick-up. But still, in shown by his latest Twitter gaffe, headcase Ron is alive and well. The man is schizophrenic, it's just a matter of which personality the Lakers manage to get this year (as has been the case every other year Ron-Ron has been in the league). Like it or not, for your benefit or detriment, you guys brought a time-bomb on your ship. Diffuse it or get blowed the fuck up.

[Culburn369]

Like it or not, for your benefit or detriment, you guys brought a time-bomb on your ship. Diffuse it or get blowed the fuck up.

Bullshit.

[BlackBellamy]

Bullshit.

'Cause history has shown volatile chemistry never hurts Lakers' teams. Right? :rolleyes Whatever, Cubby.

[21_Blessings]

This is a very good point, Whilst Artest will be able to guard the bulkier players like Anthony and LeBron better than Ariza he will get burned by the quicker players.

And who on the Spurs is going to guard these quicker player? San Antonio certainly has nobody on the roster that can defend them better than Ron Artest or Kobe.

Face it, the Lakers upgraded defensively in a conference where they were already easily the best defensive team last season (was proven in the playoffs).

[Culburn369]

'Cause history has shown volatile chemistry never hurts Lakers' teams. Right? :rolleyes Whatever, Cubby.

You sittin' around wishin & wringin' your hands over it ain't right, smartass.

Grow up.

[Culburn369]

You guys are funny. If twittering, and youtube is our biggest concern with Ron, then I welcome it. On another note. You guys would love to have Jackson back, but the last I remember, that muthafucca was right up in those stands throwing hay-makers at women, children, the elderly and anyone willing to stick their chin out.:lol That fucker got 5 fouls in the first quarter the other night, and was sent to the showers by his coach. If you guys can tolerate Action Jackson, we can tolerate Ron.

Luva, savin' the old Cubster this Sunday. I'm all splintered and scattered, but, Luva is focused and precise.

Thank, Christ!

[Culburn369]

Yup, Rice and his wife was bashing the coach on our way to our first title in Staples. Kobe and Shaq was throwing punches at each over who had the biggest cock. Yeah, this team sucks when things are not peachy in LA.:rolleyes

Luva, experiencing his finest hour. It's cut/paste/scrapbook time. C'mon everybody, all fandoms, git your scissors, Elmer's glue and the scrapbook.

I God's!

[xellos88330]

:wgaf

It is the preseason people!!!

[NoOptionB]

I'm still waiting for a Spur to completely annihilate the half-time interviewer on ABC. :(


Only Pop does it, and laconically at that.

[DPG21920]

Of course Kobe is a better defender than Ariza, but that is not the point. Kobe was able to hide out defensively many times last year because of Ariza. This year, he won't be able to do so.

But the benefits of having Ron shut down bigger guys and Kobe playing more defense on smaller guys could amp up their defense. We will see.

[Culburn369]

:wgaf

It is the preseason people!!!

Your fandom started it, x. I was aghast as well over the fervor of your fandom in regards to preseason results.

[BlackBellamy]

You guys are funny. If twittering, and youtube is our biggest concern with Ron, then I welcome it. On another note. You guys would love to have Jackson back, but the last I remember, that muthafucca was right up in those stands throwing hay-makers at women, children, the elderly and anyone willing to stick their chin out.:lol That fucker got 5 fouls in the first quarter the other night, and was sent to the showers by his coach. If you guys can tolerate Action Jackson, we can tolerate Ron.

You seem to forget all the nice things I prefaced my criticism of Artest with, but whatever. For the sake of argument, who's to say it stops at Twiitering 'Dickhead', and who knows when a person so self-conscious about what Ric Bucher says, has it out with one of the other egos on your team? It's the preseason and he's acting foolish already. Then again, it's only the preseason. I'm not wishing for a blow up, I don't feel as if I need to this year. But there is a chance, even if slight, that he poisons your drinking water. Lots of unanswered questions.

I am not a proponent of bringing Capt. Jack back, and not only for the reasons that you listed. I just feel that his contract is a burden for a position that we don't really need filled. The Spurs have a lot of shooters as is, and if Jack's not the 1st or 2nd option on the offense he gets mighty pissy. His perimeter defense might be a nice addition, but not for the current Jackson price.

[Man In Black]

Shannon will fill that role of guarding the quicker guards this year. To be honest with you DPG, we don't have any weaknesses right now.
Does Shannon Brown play the closer minutes at PG over Fisher?

[BlackBellamy]

yup, rice and his wife was bashing the coach on our way to our first title in staples. Kobe and shaq was throwing punches at each over who had the biggest cock. Yeah, this team sucks when things are not peachy in la.:rolleyes

'04 = a lottery year and some first round exits.

[Lars]

Pretty sure we all told you Ron was signifigantly bigger but slower than in the past. I think the response was something along the lines of "LULZ NO ARTEST IS DPOY FOR THE LAKERS CUZ ITS LIKE MAGIC IN LA"

[iggypop123]

the old grammys road trip. just means we should be 1 loss 20 games into the season,

[BlackBellamy]

Come on Black, you can leave me some poetry in my private, you can say Kobe is a rapist, but you cant say we don't have the right to rebuild after our captain jumped ship.

:lol I'll leave the poetry to Cubby. Kobe is a rapist. That aside, you absolutely did have that right, and in typical Lakers fashion you rebuilt fast and well. But the unstable relationships on the team led to needing to rebuild in the first place. Alls I'm saying is that one can't deny that unstable chemistry has been a factor in your club's not so distant past.

[TheMACHINE]

Fair enough, but do you think that Ron has lost a step? No one will get burned every time, even with a deficiency, but do you think that having Ron trying to guard smaller, quicker players like Ariza will be a problem for Ron?

Like I said, the Lakers front office thought they could use Ron's skillset more than Ariza. Point is, the assessment was spot on and Ariza's deficiencies did not stop the Lakers from winning a title. Will Ron's? Probably not, but it is still a question mark.

Why are you so convinced that Ron will guard smaller quicker players? Could Ariza guard Carmello and Lebron?...no...if Ron cant guard a smaller quicker player, then let Kobe guard him...sheesh.

[Culburn369]

Alls I'm saying is that one can't deny that unstable chemistry has been a factor in your club's not so distant past.

& we won two NBA World Championships in spite of it.

[BlackBellamy]

& we won two NBA World Championships in spite of it.

How many more should that specific team have had if some people could have kept their egos under control?

[21_Blessings]

How many more should that specific team have had if some people could have kept their egos under control?

None really. The problem in 03/04 wasn't egos. It was the lack of any bench whatsoever and Shaq gaining about 60 pounds of fat. Lakers woudn't have won anything if they paid Shaq what he wanted (30 million extension). It would have been impossible to fill in the gaps unless they got really lucky late in the draft every year.

Mitch has turned into a good GM but he did a horrendous job his first few years after taking over for Jerry West.

[Culburn369]

How many more should that specific team have had if some people could have kept their egos under control?

I was thrilled with 3 in-a-row. You'd be too except you'll never know.

[21_Blessings]

I was thrilled with 3 in-a-row. You'd be too except you'll never know.

:flag:

That post really needed a "tee, hee" to top it off.

[Culburn369]

Mitch has turned into a good GM but he did a horrendous job his first few years after taking over for Jerry West.

The third of the trio was Kupchak's. & he didn't force Kobe to commit rape, or quit in a Game 7, or, Rudy to get scared of Cancer. He never quit. Kobe did. Phil did. Rudy did. Daddy did. West did. But, not Kupchak. He didn't quit after he'd destroyed his knee either....

- "I'm still 6'10", 240."

- Mitch Kupchak - knee shackled - in tears - Boston, MA. - June.9.1985

[DPG21920]

Why are you so convinced that Ron will guard smaller quicker players? Could Ariza guard Carmello and Lebron?...no...if Ron cant guard a smaller quicker player, then let Kobe guard him...sheesh.

What are you talking about? I don't think Ron will or can guard smaller players. I am saying that Ric's assessment was correct and the Lakers know Kobe will have to defend more this year.

[Culburn369]

What are you talking about? I don't think Ron will or can guard smaller players. I am saying that Ric's assessment was correct and the Lakers know Kobe will have to defend more this year.

But, Ric is a douche bag & dick headPERIOD

[BlackBellamy]

I was thrilled with 3 in-a-row. You'd be too except you'll never know.

Ooo feisty! I guess I'll have to go home with the consolation prize, San Antonio having only our three championships in the decade (pending) and one of the best winning percentages in all of sports. I should hang my head in shame, huh?

[21_Blessings]

What are you talking about? I don't think Ron will or can guard smaller players. I am saying that Ric's assessment was correct and the Lakers know Kobe will have to defend more this year.

If you and Bucher believe that then you're both delusional. Ariza played 24 minutes per game last season. Artest will be playing around 34+.

[DPG21920]

What does that matter or how does that change the fact Ron will struggle to guard the types of players Ariza did well on?

[Culburn369]

Ooo feisty! I guess I'll have to go home with the consolation prize, San Antonio having only our three championships in the decade (pending)

Me feisty!? Ha! You went bananas the other nite cuz I busted yer balls over Fox & Parkinsons. You got no f'in room.

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Decade is over, Bell. We closed it out with our 15th. Yer shit out of luck.

[21_Blessings]

What does that matter or how does that change the fact Ron will struggle to guard the types of players Ariza did well on?

Ariza guarded SF for the most part last season. For only 24 minutes a game. When Melo and Bron torched him Kobe had to move down and guard those players. He won't have too with Artest here playing many more minutes than Ariza.

It's simple math really. Did you even graduate high school?

edit:
Laker fan does not understand simple observation.

It's not an observation. Flat out fallacy. Pretty obvious you have no idea what you are talking about.

http://www.82games.com/0809/08LAL7.HTM#bypos

Where are you getting that Ariza defended quicker shooting guards all season?

[DPG21920]

Laker fan does not understand simple observation.

[BlackBellamy]

Me feisty!? Ha! You went bananas the other nite cuz I busted yer balls over Fox & Parkinsons. You got no f'in room.

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Decade is over, Bell. We closed it out with our 15th. Yer shit out of luck.

You were indirectly insulting my father, who has Pakinson's, and his condition. I would like to see a person alive that loves their father not feel furious when confronted with the same sickening mockery. You have no class.

So if the decade is over '08/'09 then our 99 trophy is counted within this last decade. So in that case, I do stand corrected, we have four titles in the decade. It's gotta be one or the other Cubby.

[The Franchise]

Ariza guarded SF for the most part last season. For only 24 minutes a game. When Melo and Bron torched him Kobe had to move down and guard those players. He won't have too with Artest here playing many more minutes than Ariza.

It's simple math really. Did you even graduate high school?

edit:

It's not an observation. Flat out fallacy. Pretty obvious you have no idea what you are talking about.

http://www.82games.com/0809/08LAL7.HTM#bypos

Where are you getting that Ariza defended quicker shooting guards all season?

:lmao 21 IQ trying to educate somebody.

[DPG21920]

Where did I say he guarded SG's all season or that it was a primary responsibility?

I said that Ariza gave the Lakers the ability to switch a longer player onto quicker players so that Kobe did not have to do the work.

Lakers lost that ability now with the Ron for Ariza swap.

[Culburn369]

You were indirectly insulting my father, who has Pakinson's, and his condition. I would like to see a person alive that loves their father not feel furious when confronted with the same sickening mockery. You have no class.

So if the decade is over '08/'09 then our 99 trophy is counted within this last decade. So in that case, I do stand corrected, we have four titles in the decade. It's gotta be one or the other Cubby.

Tough titties. My entire family has been insulted, your father ain't no special case.

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No, your '99 strike ring is counted in the '90s. You have 1 ring (the strike one) in the '90s. And you have 3 regular rings this decade. We have 4 regular rings this decade.

[21_Blessings]

Where did I say he guarded SG's all season or that it was a primary responsibility?

Then back up your assertion that Ron will struggle defending the same players Ariza defended and that Kobe will have to work more on defense.

Because they are baseless statements that make no sense.

edit:
I said that Ariza gave the Lakers the ability to switch a longer player onto quicker players so that Kobe did not have to do the work.

Again, Ariza guarded shooting forwards the majority of the game. And was torched in the limited amount of time he defended the SG position. Click the link above.


Lakers lost that ability now with the Ron for Ariza swap.

The Lakers gained the ability to put Ron on an Island with the likes of Lebron, Carmelo and Pierce. Something they could never do with Ariza here.

How does that translate to Kobe working more on defense when Artest will be guarding the other team's best perimeter player for more minutes per game than Ariza did?

[DPG21920]

Then back up your assertion that Ron will struggle defending the same players Ariza defended and that Kobe will have to work more on defense.

Because they are baseless statement that make no sense.

Who is better at guarding smaller quicker players, Ron or Ariza?

[21_Blessings]

Who is better at guarding smaller quicker players, Ron or Ariza?

Give a working example instead of a vague line like "smaller quicker players".

[The Franchise]

Who is better at guarding smaller quicker players, Ron or Ariza?

I'll answer Ariza.

[DPG21920]

This isn't Jeopardy. I don't need an answer in the form of another question.

[21_Blessings]

This isn't Jeopardy. I don't need an answer in the form of another question.

Nice backpedal.

[21_Blessings]

Ariza.

Love the .258 FG% Ariza is posting in the pre-season. :lol

[DPG21920]

Love the .258 FG% Ariza is posting in the pre-season. :lol

Typical Laker "fan" response. Get asked a question, hear an answer you don't like, resort to something that has nothing to do with the topic.

:cry Someone pointed out the obvious that Ron is slower than Ariza and will struggle with quicker players. :cry :cry That's not true, even though it is.

[21_Blessings]

Typical Laker "fan" response. Get asked a question, hear an answer you don't like, resort to something that has nothing to do with the topic.

You haven't answered any of my questions even though I blatantly and factually shot down your false assertions. Keep backpedaling. :nope


:cry Someone pointed out the obvious that Ron is slower than Ariza and will struggle with quicker players. :cry :cry That's not true, even though it is.

You said that Kobe will have to work harder on defense. Which is a lie. Then you said Artest will struggle guarding the same type of players Ariza defended (he defended SF all season and playoffs). Which is a lie.

[DPG21920]

You are not bright. Read back. This thread is about Ron being too slow to guard quick players. Ariza was able to do that better than Ron. Now Kobe HAS to do it.

LMAO at you sons thinking you have proven anything. People are mocking you.

[21_Blessings]

You are not bright. Read back.

Says the guy who can't even remember what he posted on the last page.


This thread is about Ron being too slow to guard quick players. Ariza was able to do that better than Ron.

Lebron and Carmelo aren't quick players? Haha. Guess who defends them better? Right, Ron Artest does.


Now Kobe HAS to do it.

Kobe was doing it last season as well. Now he'll be doing it this season for 10+ less minutes. How is that working harder on defense again?


LMAO at you sons thinking you have proven anything. People are mocking you.

Actually people are laughing at the Spurs. Why are we talking about the Lakers All-NBA perimeter defense when the Spurs will be playing Richard Jefferson and Manu Ginobili? :lol :lol

[spursfan09]

I wonder if they will just ban all NBA players from twittering...

[spursfan09]

And if they do, do they ban them facebook, myspace etc? It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

[DJB]

A course, DPG. Now that you don't have Kobe ringless without Daddy yer lookin' for a fresh booger under our bed. So you've targeted Artest, hopin & prayin' he'll go nutty nuts and you can get off the snide. He may. But, it ain't goin' to erase Kobe riflin' that pass over to Fish and Fish, takin' out that scalpel and diggin' thru the innards of everybody m'fer agin' us.

What?

[mingus]

Ariza would've been a great guy to put on Manu Ginobili or Tony Parker in the Playoffs because of his lateral quickness, something Mr. Artest hasn't been able to provide for a while. he'll prove worthy against Melo and Pierce, but Manu Ginobili and Parker are an entirely different species.

good luck, Ron.

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[Allanon]

Ariza would've been a great guy to put on Manu Ginobili or Tony Parker in the Playoffs because of his lateral quickness, something Mr. Artest hasn't been able to provide for a while. he'll prove worthy against Melo and Pierce, but Manu Ginobili and Parker are an entirely different species.

good luck, Ron.

:hat

Vujacic, the Manu Stoppa...Manu's already got his work cut out for him, he's first gotta show this Urban Legend isn't true :lol

It's true, Ariza did a decent job on Tony Parker and I agree, Artest probably can't do anything with Tony. I think Phil's answer this year to Tony Parker is the Big Lineup previously mentioned in other threads. Although TP will be tearing up the Lakers as usual, Kobe will be tearing up TP on the other end.

I think the net effect of Kobe/Parker 1 on 1 would be advantage Lakers.

[mingus]

First of all, get Manu on the court before you start counting your chickens. Second, Parker gets his regardless, you can only slow him with good help defense from your bigs. You guys aren't making any sense. Kobe and Artest are top 5 wing defenders. In the famous words of D'Antoni... "we're good." Now that you no longer have Bowen, who do you guys have to guard the quicker wing players. Please don't say Dick, cause its obvious he's in "First, do no harm mode." Hill is a back-up and not good anyways.

Artest and Kobe are great defenders, but Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker are good enough on offense to impose their will enough of the time on any defender in the N.B.A.

[mingus]

Vujacic, the Manu Stoppa...Manu's already got his work cut out for him, he's first gotta show this Urban Legend isn't true :lol

It's true, Ariza did a decent job on Tony Parker and I agree, Artest probably can't do anything with Tony. I think Phil's answer this year to Tony Parker is the Big Lineup previously mentioned in other threads. Although TP will be tearing up the Lakers as usual, Kobe will be tearing up TP on the other end.

I think the net effect of Kobe/Parker 1 on 1 would be advantage Lakers.

good post.

it'll be interesting to see what happens, as both teams have the depth to put in some lineups, both defensively and offensively, that give the opposing team trouble.