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duncan228
10-15-2009, 02:13 AM
Jackson Thinks He's As Good As Kobe (http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2009/10/14/jax-v-teammates-jax-v-kobe-baron-v-randolph-and-other-warriors-stuff/)

Jackson took his beef with Kobe to a public level. I don’t think he’s ever been a fan of Kobe. Especially to an official street dude like Jax, Bryant isn’t going to get the benefit of the doubt. So if he really called Jax young fella (though they’re the same age), better believe Jax really didn’t like that. In essence, Jax got dissed by a suburbanite. On top of what he thought was some dirty play.

JACKSON: “I’m not going to bow down. I’m not a fan of Kobe. I’m not somebody who looks up to him. I’m a grown man myself. So when I go out there and play the game, I play the game. I feel like I’m just as good as him. I might not get the publicity or notoriety he gets, but I feel like I can play with anybody in the NBA any given night.”

Yes, you read that right. Jax said he’s as good as Kobe. See, that is machismo taking over. But he did qualify it. By the end of the quote, he was clearly saying that he feel like he can match-up with Kobe and even give him the business.

JACKSON: “I think everybody should feel like that. Everybody should be a competitor and I don’t back down from anybody. I’ve never been like that and I’m not going to start today. … It ain’t envy. I ain’t jealous of anybody. At the end of the day I’m still blessed to be in this game, taking care of my family. I think it’s just the fact that what’s fair is fair and I want to be treated fair as a man. Just like anybody else would.”

Certainly, Tuesday’s match-up with Kobe in Ontario should be pretty intense.

Medvedenko
10-15-2009, 02:25 AM
Lol Jackson

greyforest
10-15-2009, 02:26 AM
sjax seems pretty dumb

DJB
10-15-2009, 02:28 AM
Honestly, I feel the title of the article is unfair to him.

xellos88330
10-15-2009, 02:42 AM
Jackson is showing pride in his ability to play the game, and shouldn't really be picked on. He is definitely not the type of person to sell himself short.

Chieflion
10-15-2009, 02:56 AM
Media trying to change the meaning of the quotes. We haven't seen that before.

redzero
10-15-2009, 03:05 AM
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/7433/1255403708716.jpg

Allanon
10-15-2009, 03:08 AM
Captain Jack doesn't want to be captain no mo'. :lol

JamStone
10-15-2009, 03:28 AM
He's an idiot but not for this. Absolutely nothing wrong with what he said.

Xylus
10-15-2009, 03:50 AM
He's an idiot but not for this. Absolutely nothing wrong with what he said.

+1

Side note, Fuck Kobe.

Culburn369
10-15-2009, 04:07 AM
He's like Artest, he's in love with Kobe, and Jackson doesn't know how to show it, so he acts out, shows off, preens for Bryant. It's a mating ritual type thing. Goes back 100's of years. Oprah talks about it sometimes on her show. Phil Donahue too when he was still on.

wanggi
10-15-2009, 04:54 AM
He's like Artest, he's in love with Kobe, and Jackson doesn't know how to show it, so he acts out, shows off, preens for Bryant. It's a mating ritual type thing. Goes back 100's of years. Oprah talks about it sometimes on her show. Phil Donahue too when he was still on.

No, he ain't in love with Kobe, he's jealous of Kobe. He hates Kobe's superiority over him but he dared not say that he could outplay Kobe so he said he's as good as Kobe.

TDMVPDPOY
10-15-2009, 04:55 AM
believe in urself jax!!!

Kamnik
10-15-2009, 04:59 AM
he's an idiot but not for this. Absolutely nothing wrong with what he said.

+1

djohn2oo8
10-15-2009, 08:40 AM
must respect that someone actually had the balls to proclaim something like this....at least he didn't admit to seeing kobe naked :lmao

ElNono
10-15-2009, 08:44 AM
He's an idiot but not for this. Absolutely nothing wrong with what he said.

+2

The thread title doesn't match the article.

Culburn369
10-15-2009, 08:58 AM
No, he ain't in love with Kobe, he's jealous of Kobe. He hates Kobe's superiority over him but he dared not say that he could outplay Kobe so he said he's as good as Kobe.

love...hate...six of one, half dozen of the other.

wanggi
10-15-2009, 09:14 AM
love...hate...six of one, half dozen of the other.
So you mean you could be a Suns lover someday.

in2deep
10-15-2009, 09:20 AM
stupid article title. I know what Jax means, he is basically saying when he's on the court he does not feel inferior to anyone. and that is the right way to think.

Culburn369
10-15-2009, 09:26 AM
So you mean you could be a Suns lover someday.

I already gave you the answer.

Culburn369
10-15-2009, 09:29 AM
[I think it’s just the fact that what’s fair is fair]

tee, hee.

wanggi
10-15-2009, 09:30 AM
0 & 42.

Feel better?

picc84
10-15-2009, 09:32 AM
Big deal. Every decent player thinks he should believe he's the best. I'm pretty sure Cuttino Mobley has called himself the best player before.

Culburn369
10-15-2009, 09:32 AM
0 & 42.

Feel better?

I'll let you know when it's confirmed. Ya never know, wangi. WTF woulda ever thought Kobe would ring/sans Daddy?

Not Spurs Fandom,,,,tee, hee.

wanggi
10-15-2009, 09:36 AM
At least you dare not to say yer Watcher of the Gate here.

Culburn369
10-15-2009, 09:38 AM
At least you dare not to say yer Watcher of the Gate here.

I already dared, wangi.

djohn2oo8
10-15-2009, 09:38 AM
I'll let you know when it's confirmed. Ya never know, wangi. WTF woulda ever thought Kobe would ring/sans Daddy?

Not Spurs Fandom,,,,tee, hee.

3 rings via shaq, 1 via Gasol

Culburn369
10-15-2009, 09:38 AM
3 rings via shaq, 1 via Gasol

= 4 total.

wanggi
10-15-2009, 09:41 AM
= 4 total.

= 0(nothing) & 54(year old)

tee, hee.

Culburn369
10-15-2009, 09:41 AM
= 0(nothing) & 54(year old)

tee, hee.

56. tee, hee.

wanggi
10-15-2009, 09:43 AM
56. tee, hee.

So...
= 0 & 56

mookie2001
10-15-2009, 09:46 AM
a man from port arthur texas shouldnt bow down to kobe or anyone else, let alone a rich kid who grew up in italy

Spursfan092120
10-15-2009, 09:47 AM
Seriously, you guys...I can go through here and see which of you played sports and who didn't. You always have to feel you can play with anyone on any given night..if you don't, you might as well not suit up. Everyone knows he's not up to Kobe's level, but he can't know that...otherwise he wouldn't be a pro.

Culburn369
10-15-2009, 09:49 AM
so...
= 0 & 56

o & 41!

wanggi
10-15-2009, 09:51 AM
0 & 56.

Culburn369
10-15-2009, 09:52 AM
Let us proceed...

wanggi
10-15-2009, 10:05 AM
Let us proceed.....

dirk4mvp
10-15-2009, 10:06 AM
Stephen Jackon > Kobe Bryant

Finperro
10-15-2009, 10:16 AM
Stephen Jackon > Kobe Bryant
when it comes to crimes like rape?

DUNCANownsKOBE2
10-15-2009, 10:17 AM
:lmao Finperro

Culburn369
10-15-2009, 10:25 AM
when it comes to crimes like rape?

He did bust that brownie up pretty good, eh?

tee, hee.

Culburn369
10-15-2009, 10:28 AM
I can tell that you've never been good at sports, because if you were, you'd know that every-time you stepped on the court or field, you knew that there were certain players that you could own whenever you wanted to, and they knew it too. Kobe knows that about Jackson, and Jackson knows it too. The fact that the refs knew it is was irritated Jackson and caused him to get 5 fouls in 6 minutes and sent to the showers. He may not be a fan of Kobe's, but he sure is a subject.

Ruh, roh, could be one of those days where Luva rides high & wide and cuts a swath thru NBA Forum.

Methinks so.

dirk4mvp
10-15-2009, 10:28 AM
Yup, Kobe is better at taking ass too. Don't let that smile fool ya.

wrong. Jackson is a straight hood rat, Kobe is the nba's wayne brady. Jackson just doesn't get snitched on.

duncan228
10-15-2009, 11:12 AM
Fragile partnership linked Jackson, Nelson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AgMkzn7ab3LmnealofA50IS8vLYF?slug=aw-nelsonjackson101509&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)
By Adrian Wojnarowski

He had lost his cool with Kobe Bryant, a replacement referee and ultimately the disdain that Stephen Jackson has for the Golden State Warriors turned onto Don Nelson. From outside the huddle over the weekend, Jackson had screamed to his coach that he never supported Jackson the way he should a star, that Nellie was obligated to take up his case with the refs.

Sources with direct knowledge of the exchange insist Jackson’s diatribe included the plea, “If you aren’t going to support me, why don’t you get me out of here?” All along, the Warriors had misjudged his capacity for captainship, something the rest of the NBA had called the moment Nellie had that “C” stitched onto Jax’s varsity jacket.

Eventually, Nelson gently touched his arm and told Jackson he needed to leave for the locker room. Jackson grew more livid, sources said, and warned Nellie that he should never do that again.

That’s all the Warriors’ front office and coaching staff needed to hear. When the Warriors suspended Jackson for two games, two league sources said, part of the reason was to make sure that Jax-Nellie didn’t turn into a Latrell Sprewell-P.J. Carlesimo sequel. This isn’t to suggest Jackson ever threatened bodily harm – there’s no evidence he did – but Warriors management didn’t dare risk the possibility, if even remote. Jax was hot and had to go.

So, Jackson returned to practice and told his bosses he no longer wants to be a captain. Warriors general manager Larry Riley has been working the phones for a trade, but there’s nothing out there. Privately, the Warriors have said they’ve just been offered “garbage” for Jackson and four years and $35 million left on his contract.

For now, the Warriors are privately griping that Jackson’s belligerence could dramatically impact Monta Ellis, the player whom management believes can be most easily influenced, sources said.

The Warriors are stuck with Jackson and his contract, and deservedly so. Behind the back of now deposed GM Chris Mullin, Golden State’s meddlesome president Robert Rowell cut a contract extension directly with Jackson. Those close to Jackson believe Rowell convinced Jackson to terminate his high-powered agent, Dan Fegan, and do a deal directly with ownership. As much as ever now, Jackson could use Fegan’s stewardship, but he’s on his own.

The Warriors had lost Baron Davis to free agency in the summer of 2007, and Mullin knew that spring’s historic playoff run was a vapor, that the franchise would be wise to move Jax with his value peaked. Mullin had a trade in the works to an Eastern Conference team, but was told to forget it. Rowell told the GM that Jackson was untouchable, and then rewarded Jackson with a cap-crippling $28 million extension to make him the face of the franchise.

Now, Jackson is 31 years old and largely untradeable. Two years later, the Warriors are back to an impasse with a franchise player. When Golden State ended up in circumstances where they had to move stars Chris Webber and Sprewell, the team’s two best players fetched the modest returns of Tom Gugliotta and John Starks, respectively. The market for Jackson is marginal. So far, sources say Golden State hasn’t received one offer worth serious consideration.

Yes, the Warriors are stuck with a problem of their own creation. This is what happens when ownership overrides a GM and creates an organizational structure where a coach and a player can bypass the chain of command and get contract demands met. In so many ways, Jackson and Nelson have manipulated that dynamic that led to so much dysfunction in Golden State.

Back in the fall of ’07, these two were a most improbable partnership. After beating the top-seeded Mavericks in the first round of the Western Conference playoffs, coach and star returned with a mandate to do something that neither man’s DNA wired him to do.

Yes, they tried. Jackson says now he never cared about the title of captain, but that isn’t true. He loved the legitimacy that it lent to a wayward career. Back then, Jax and I were sitting in a New York City gymnasium where he talked about the moment that Nelson had called him with word of his promotion. “Coach, you’re going to make me cry,” Jackson told him.

Mostly, Jackson remembered that on the afternoon of Nellie’s phone call, “My whole day stopped. It was like I just won a championship.”

Jackson popped champagne with some friends and celebrated the honor with style. Jackson would tell me that day, “It’s amazing that an older white guy understands me more than anybody I’ve been around in my whole life. He sees through all the tattoos and all the stuff people say about me. He knows how I love the game.”

Jackson was serious about the task. He was determined to grow into it. He told me about a book that Baron Davis had given him to read. John Maxwell’s “The Difference Maker: Making Your Attitude Your Greatest Asset.” Sure, it sounds perfectly absurd now, but Jackson was never, ever the right player to commission as the elder statesman for a team soon to be turned over to late teenagers and twentysomethings.

“I don’t want to be a role model,” Jackson said this week.

In a lot of ways, Nelson set him up to fail. This way, it would be easy for Nelson to shirk his own responsibilities of lording over this young team. From Brandan Wright to Marco Belinelli, it’s fair to wonder: Where’s the player development come under Nellie? What young guys are getting better? Anthony Morrow was a terrific undrafted find out of Georgia Tech, but let’s face it: Mullin invited Morrow to summer league, and he was a good player upon arrival.

As Nelson pushed more and more responsibility onto his assistant coaches, it was clear he had lost spirit in coaching these young Warriors. So many NBA executives believe he’s merely hanging around to catch Lenny Wilkens’ record for career victories, and maybe most of all, cash his checks.

For now, the Warriors are stuck with Stephen Jackson and it could be sometime until that changes. They gave him a contract that paralyzes the team and a captainship that paralyzed the player. They’ll say Jax isn’t heeding his coach, but they’ll be wrong. He watched closely and learned well the lessons of life with the Golden State Warriors. There’s no staying power here, and rest assured that didn’t start with Captain Jack turning in his badge.

Culburn369
10-15-2009, 11:17 AM
Once again Jax has shit where he eats.

benefactor
10-15-2009, 11:53 AM
:lmao Finperro
:lmao

PDXSpursFan
10-15-2009, 11:58 AM
2009 SJax = 2008 Marbury

antimvp
10-15-2009, 11:58 AM
what are the numbers head to head.

Culburn369
10-15-2009, 12:18 PM
2009 SJax = 2008 Marbury

Bingo!

mingus
10-15-2009, 01:03 PM
Jackson is a good player, at best a 3rd or 4th option on a championship team. he's seems to have forgotten that. it's what happens when you're already prone to delusions, and you play for a crappy team and become the de facto 1st option because everyone is more or less at your skill-level.

Morg1411
10-15-2009, 01:11 PM
Three things:

1) Jax is a dumb fuck.
2) Go Jax!
3) Fuck Kobe.

Culburn369
10-15-2009, 01:23 PM
Jackson is a good player, at best a 3rd or 4th option on a championship team. he's seems to have forgotten that. it's what happens when you're already prone to delusions, and you play for a crappy team and become the de facto 1st option because everyone is more or less at your skill-level.

Gee willakers, Ming with a cogent thought in that head of is. Shame it'll wither & die of loneliness.:lol

Lakers999
10-16-2009, 12:07 AM
+1

Side note, Fuck Kobe.

fuck the both of you

mystargtr34
10-16-2009, 06:51 AM
Jackson could probly go Chris Childs on Kobe, but not with a basketball.

TFloss32
10-16-2009, 02:38 PM
This guy is doing absolutely everything he can to NOT be a Warrior this season. Did anyone see his stat line last night? 5 fouls and a tech in nine minutes. Wow.

lefty
10-16-2009, 02:44 PM
Kuck Fobe

Spursfan092120
10-16-2009, 02:54 PM
I can tell that you've never been good at sports, because if you were, you'd know that every-time you stepped on the court or field, you knew that there were certain players that you could own whenever you wanted to, and they knew it too. Kobe knows that about Jackson, and Jackson knows it too. The fact that the refs knew it is was irritated Jackson and caused him to get 5 fouls in 6 minutes and sent to the showers. He may not be a fan of Kobe's, but he sure is a subject.
Actually, I had a college scholarship to play basketball, and even though there were people who could beat me, I never felt that way when I stepped on the court. You have to believe you're the best fucking player on the court every time, otherwise there's no point in stepping on it. You're dead on arrival if you don't. That's what Jackson was saying. Everyone of us and everyone else knows Kobe can own Stephen, but Stephen cannot admit that to himself, otherwise what's the fucking point of him stepping on the court against the Lakers?

Donkeybong
10-16-2009, 03:12 PM
Another weak minded player falling subject to Kobe's prowess. Dumb fuck deserves to be suspended.

Boston Pancake
10-16-2009, 03:14 PM
That raping motherfucker Kobe ain't shit. The mighty Celtics will kick his bitch ass again this year in the Finals.

Donkeybong
10-16-2009, 03:19 PM
That raping motherfucker Kobe ain't shit. The mighty Celtics will kick his bitch ass again this year in the Finals.

The Celts will be sitting at home and eating clam chowder come June

Boston Pancake
10-16-2009, 03:20 PM
The Celts will be sitting at home and eating clam chowder come June

And the Lakers will be at home giving each other hand jobs and eating ice cream cones filled with shit, or whatever it is your fuckin queers do in LA all day.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
10-16-2009, 03:28 PM
And the Lakers will be at home giving each other hand jobs and eating ice cream cones filled with shit, or whatever it is your fuckin queers do in LA all day.



:lmao

Donkeybong
10-16-2009, 03:37 PM
And the Lakers will be at home giving each other hand jobs and eating ice cream cones filled with shit, or whatever it is your fuckin queers do in LA all day.

You got some fucked up fantasies. Stick to your celtic's branded green dildo.

Fabbs
10-16-2009, 04:23 PM
Jax needed to stay on the Spurs after 2003 and he would have given Collusion Boi a number of more spankings. The athletic SF we missed ever since '03.

Your mistake was leaving the Spurs, Jax.

Capt Bringdown
10-17-2009, 07:55 AM
I know what Jax means, he is basically saying when he's on the court he does not feel inferior to anyone. and that is the right way to think.

Any fool can attitudinize and run his mouth. If you're a player, you let your play speak for itself.

Seems to me he does feel inferior and afraid, that's why he's compensating with braggadocio.

sonic21
10-17-2009, 09:53 AM
it's a close call, jackson is slightly better

SpursDynasty
10-17-2009, 06:56 PM
S-Jax help put an end to the 2000-2002 Laker run.

Mavs_man_41
10-17-2009, 06:57 PM
S-Jax help put an end to the 2000-2002 Laker run.

Mothafuckin hell yeah!!!

Spursmania
10-17-2009, 09:07 PM
+2

the thread title doesn't match the article.

+3