Spurs vs Cavaliers Oct. 16th - Game Blog

[Dro210]

Here comes foul #6, lol

[angelbelow]

If we want to play it this way, take out Bogans and play Hairston or something.

On the money :lol

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

lol at the Cavs playing a short bench (ie taking it seriously).

[024]

mahinmi back in!

[Spursmania]

Ian is back in.

[ElNono]

Half of those were moving screens. The other half was just him being dumb fouling people he should not be fouling.


Yep:(


You are correct.

Thanks... :wow

[timtang]

90-88,4:29 remaining.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Oh, and HI! all. My first game thread of the year. :D

Can't see the game though, dammit.

[Chieflion]

lol at the Cavs playing a short bench (ie taking it seriously).
Most of their guys are injured: Gibson and Varejao
Some guys also have the flu: Hickson and Darnell

[Spursmania]

Blair reverse lay up is good!

[Chieflion]

The game is tied at 90.

[DPG21920]

I don't remember the exact quote, why don't you prove me wrong by finding it for me.

If you don't remember, how can you comment? Even if he did say that, why would you expect him to be correct and not know that it would take time?

He is a young, athletic big trying to figure things out. Correcting a foul problem takes time, regardless of what he said. It was not as if he was bragging saying he figured everything out. He said he was studying and saw some stuff where he could adjust (paraphrasing of course).

[024]

3:36 SA - D. Blair misses a layup

that's impossible. it goes against the law of physics.

[Spursmania]

Awesome D by Hairston. But Cavs get the basket 92-90.

[Spursmania]

Blair to Hairston, goes up for 2-gets fouled.

[timtang]

90-90, 3:05 remaining. damn, go spurs go!!!!!!!!

[Chieflion]

I have to see how Ian possibly got blocked by Kurz..
Ya, how the heck did he get blocked by Matt Bonner version 2?

[angelbelow]

R Kurz is having a nice game. Wasn't he on GS?

[Spursmania]

Time-out. Hairston for 2 after time-out.

[benefactor]

Spurs up by 2.

[ElNono]

I'm checking the boxscore...

Bonner 1 rebound in 15 mins... some things never change.... :lol

[Chieflion]

R Kurz is having a nice game. Wasn't he on GS?
Ya. GSW's players from the D-League. Players like Kelenna Azuibuike, Anthony Morrow and Rob Kurz have to thank GSW for giving them a job.

[xellos88330]

Courtside Live said Blair missed that layup. Score is really 92-90

[Chieflion]

it turned out to be incorrect..Ian blocked him..

don't sell Bonner short though..did you see that block on Shaq?:lol
I saw it, duh. It was from behind though. Shaq obviously did not see Bonner coming.

[xellos88330]

I'm checking the boxscore...

Bonner 1 rebound in 15 mins... some things never change.... :lol

Check out his 1 Block though.

[loveforthegame]

R Kurz is having a nice game. Wasn't he on GS?

He was. He's an energy/hustle guy and sharp shooting to go with it. I'm surprised they let him go since Nelson loves big men that does what he does.

[timtang]

Blair rebound, 1st tonight.

[Spursmania]

Hairston makes both! 94-90 Spurs! Rebound by Blair!

[Chieflion]

you mad about something homie?..
Well yes. Blair did not get enough playing time.

[Spursmania]

Blair makes one. 95-90.

Blair with the rebound!

[timtang]

Blair, rebound!!!!!!!

[ElNono]

Check out his 1 Block though.

I'm actually more impressed with his 9 points...

[Dro210]

Blair, Hairston, and Hill seem to have such a great chemistry together. Whenever they are all on the floor, the Spurs are always in the +... I realize they are playing against alot of scrubs, but that chemistry translates no matter what.

[Spursmania]

Kurz fouled out of the game.

[Chieflion]

Kurz fouled out of the game.
Before Mahinmi? Man, that sucks for him.

[Spursmania]

Marcus Williams. Made both free throws. 97-90. 1:45 remaining.

[anjlbitz]

Blair, Hairston, and Hill seem to have such a great chemistry together. Whenever they are all on the floor, the Spurs are always in the +... I realize they are playing against alot of scrubs, but that chemistry translates no matter what.

I noticed that too during summer league.

[DPG21920]

http://www.nba.com/spurs/multimedia/091012_mahinmi.html

Link to Ian comments for you. No where does he say he figured out how to stop fouling...


I like Coby Karl. He is a solid player.

[Spursmania]

Rebound grabbed by Marcus Williams. Blair hook shot is good!!

[jdev82]

grizzly blair eats another basket

[benefactor]

Well yes. Blair did not get enough playing time.
They know what they have in Blair. They are taking time to look at everyone else.

[timtang]

Blair made jump, 7pts, 2 rebounds, 1stl.

[ElNono]

Blair warming up... shame the game is ending

[Spursmania]

Cavs at the free throw line. Robinson made both.

[benefactor]

Looks like we're gonna pull this thing out.

[Chieflion]

They know what they have in Blair. They are taking time to look at everyone else.
Who are they supposed to look at? Matt Bonner?

[anjlbitz]

Blair is like Manu in terms of production. He's doing a lot with a little. I'm so excited to see the Spurs' 2nd unit!

[bbarry]

stick a fork in it, this game is ovaaa. spurs win. SPURS WINNN

[Spursmania]

Jackson fouls Hill on the drive. Both FT's made!

[timtang]

101-92, 0:45 remaining.

[Chieflion]

Blair is like Manu in terms of production. He's doing a lot with a little. I'm so excited to see the Spurs' 2nd unit!
We haven't really seen Ginobili and Blair on the court together. Hope they can co-exist on the court.

[Dro210]

I love this whole 5 really... Ian and Marcus have some work to do.... but the future is definitely bright.

[loveforthegame]

I think they were getting a look at Haislip and Ian. It wouldn't surprise if Blair was going to get the night off until Ian got in foul trouble.

[Blackjack]

Quick questions if anybody can answer, I havn't been able to follow the game.

1. Can we assume the roster has been set since Marcus hasn't seen the floor tonight?

You know what happens when people assume..


2. Why so little playing time for Blair tonight?

Tim needed to get some minutes and it looks like they wanted them to be with some of the vets they expect him to play with the most. Basically it was more of the 'knowns' in the first and the young fella's in the second.

They know what they have with Blair, so they probably wanted to give Ian and maybe even Haislip the majority of the minutes in the second; Ian's foul-trouble probably got Blair in the game before, or even if, they were looking to play him.


3. How many people have jumped off a bridge already because Bonner and Finley started the game?

More than should, but not any more than we've grown to expect.


4. How can Ian have 5 fould in 7 minutes, Timmy have 4, and Shaq only have 1? Is it the refs? Do they not know how to officiate Shaq, or does it not even have anything to do with Shaq and our guys are just playing sloppy?

It's the preseason and they've got replacement refs. Combine that with a couple of vets that aren't exactly playing with their normal focus and energy, and a foul-prone, young, big like Ian..

And this is the type of result you get.

[Spursmania]

Good job by the young guys!:tu

[jdev82]

fun fact: dejaun blair is averaging 27.6 points per 36 minutes this preseason

[Spursmania]

40.5 remaining. 101-94.

[benefactor]

Who are they supposed to look at? Matt Bonner?
In a way...yes. Pop said that they are going to start getting the rotation players ready for the season.

[angelbelow]

If you don't remember, how can you comment? Even if he did say that, why would you expect him to be correct and not know that it would take time?

He is a young, athletic big trying to figure things out. Correcting a foul problem takes time, regardless of what he said. It was not as if he was bragging saying he figured everything out. He said he was studying and saw some stuff where he could adjust (paraphrasing of course).

Ofcousre I can comment, I remember his general message. I must admit it's frustrating to see Ian pick up that many fouls that quickly game after game. Perhaps hes 1 or 2 years away from contributing to this team or he just doesn't have the mental aspect of the game. I'm sure his athleticism and size is worth keeping around for now, but I am no longer as optimistic as I was before.

[Spursmania]

Double teaming Hill!:lol

Hill still scores 2!

[Pauleta14]

It's amazing how Blair ALWAYS produces!!!
either points, reb, ass, stl...

Pop has put him in many diff situations in each games and he always respond greatly!

I can't wait to see him in "real" games!

[Chieflion]

In a way...yes. Pop said that they are going to start getting the rotation players ready for the season.
Oh boy. Now we are screwed.

[Blackjack]

We haven't really seen Ginobili and Blair on the court together. Hope they can co-exist on the court.

Between Manu's court-vision and passing and Blair's hands and screen-setting..

They're going to be a load once they get a chemistry going.

[Dro210]

You know what happens when people assume..



Tim needed to get some minutes and it looks like they wanted them to be with some of the vets they expect him to play with the most. Basically it was more of the 'knowns' in the first and the young fella's in the second.

They know what they have with Blair, so they probably wanted to give Ian and maybe even Haislip the majority of the minutes in the second; Ian's foul-trouble probably got Blair in the game before, or even if, they were looking to play him.



More than should, but not any more than we've grown to expect.



It's the preseason and they've got replacement refs. Combine that with a couple of vets that aren't exactly playing with their normal focus and energy, and a foul-prone, young, big like Ian..

And this is the type of result you get.


Haha yea.... I was gonna erase that, cause as soon as I posted it, him and DeJuan both came into the game. Good to see, I love watching those guys play.

and yea, I figured it was probably a combination of all of the above on the foul thing

Thanks :toast

[timtang]

11 seconds remaining, and 103-94

[Spursmania]

I'm glad Manu had a rest. Really didn't need RJ or Manu tonight. It was a lot of scrub time as well. Good time to check out the young players. Did the Spurs cut Jerrells already?

[benefactor]

Oh boy. Now we are screwed.
Slit you wrists and get it over with then.

[ohmwrecker]

Coby Karl is with another team?..Damn, George Karl must be calling in a lot of favors around the league..

How bad do you have to be to not make the cut on a team your dad coaches?

[jdev82]

why did hill foul?

[timtang]

wow, Hill with 5 foul.

[Spursmania]

Hill fouled in back court on purpose with 5.5 sec. left. WTF?

No. sorry. Hill was fouled. Made two free throws.

[Spursmania]

Time out Cavs. Guess the Cavs are damn serious about this game.:lol

[Dro210]

G. Hill - 11/12 from the FT line :king

[angelbelow]

I'm glad Manu had a rest. Really didn't need RJ or Manu tonight. It was a lot of scrub time as well. Good time to check out the young players. Did the Spurs cut Jerrells already?

Yea..this seemed like another evaluation game. Perhaps giving Haislip or even Blair a little more playing especially over Bonner. We know Bonners role and what he can bring but Haislip we aren't so sure.

[timaios]

78 FT :sleep

[Chomag]

time out cavs. Guess the cavs are damn serious about this game.:lol

lol

[timtang]

Final, 105-98.

[Spursmania]

Game Over. Final Score. 105-98. Bye Bye Shaq!

[kbrury]

I was rooting for Haislip but so far even Williams has had a better preseason lol

[angelbelow]

G. Hill - 11/12 from the FT line :king

Hill, Hairston and Blair have all demonstrated a nice ability to draw fouls and get to the line. Good stuff.

[ElNono]

I liked that Bonner and Fin were kept at 15 mins... if that's the plan, there might be hope...

[benefactor]

Our defensive potential is very exciting.

[completely deck]

WoohooO!!! :hungry:

[Dro210]

I was rooting for Haislip but so far even Williams has had a better preseason lol

Marcus is a good player man, and he still has plenty of upside... Don't let the ST haterade for him fool you. It's gonna be a damn shame to have to let him go if we do.

[DPG21920]

http://www.nba.com/spurs/multimedia/091012_mahinmi.html

Link to Ian comments for you. No where does he say he figured out how to stop fouling...


I like Coby Karl. He is a solid player.


Ofcousre I can comment, I remember his general message. I must admit it's frustrating to see Ian pick up that many fouls that quickly game after game. Perhaps hes 1 or 2 years away from contributing to this team or he just doesn't have the mental aspect of the game. I'm sure his athleticism and size is worth keeping around for now, but I am no longer as optimistic as I was before.

I think you need to re-listen.

[FvckMavs]

We haven't really seen Ginobili and Blair on the court together. Hope they can co-exist on the court.

watch this, at 0:29
http://www.nba.com/video/games/spurs/2009/10/14/0010900061_lac_sas_recap.nba/index.html

[timtang]

Blair, 10 min, 2 rebound, 2 assist, 1 steal and 7 pts, really not bad.

[Blackjack]

I'm tellin' you...

The ability of the Spurs' young guys to get to the foul line, combined with the Big 3+1's exploits, and I'm absolutely ecstatic about this team.

[Spursmania]

Our defensive potential is very exciting.


Yes! That is what I'm most happy about:chestbump

[Dro210]

I'm tellin' you...

The ability of the Spurs' young guys to get to the foul line, combined with the Big 3+1's exploits, and I'm absolutely ecstatic about this team.

Real talk...

So nice to actually have "young guys" for a change, lol... and that +1 doesn't hurt either.

[Spursmania]

Hairston impact player of the game. He says he's focusing mostly on D and understands that what he has to do.

[1usamotorsports.com]

Marcus is a good player man, and he still has plenty of upside... Don't let the ST haterade for him fool you. It's gonna be a damn shame to have to let him go if we do.



:hat Williams is holden it down . Props to williams .

[Spurlady]

Good grief, the number of foul calls was disgusting. As much as I complain about the regulars, I 'd rather have them back.

[kbrury]

Marcus is a good player man, and he still has plenty of upside... Don't let the ST haterade for him fool you. It's gonna be a damn shame to have to let him go if we do.

Nothing is fooling me, so far Williams has played better then Haislip.

[jdev82]

why did the cavs bigs shoot so bad? ziggy, shaq and the rest shot like 30 percent. just a coincidence or was the spurs interior d pretty good?

[duncan228]

Final: Spurs 105, Cavaliers 98 in preseason (http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/courtside/2009/10/spurs-vs-cavali-1.html)
By Joe Alexander

Tony Parker had 22 points and seven assists and Tim Duncan had 13 points and nine rebounds as the Spurs beat the Cleveland Cavaliers 105-98 in Friday's preseason game at the AT&T Center.

LeBron James led the Cavs with 22 points. Shaquille O'Neal had eight points and 13 rebounds.

George Hill led the Spurs' bench players with 13 points. Malik Hairston had 11 points.

* * * * *

The Spurs lead 77-67 at the end of the third quarter. Tony Parker leads the Spurs with 22 points and seven assists. Tim Duncan has 13 points and nine rebounds.

Spurs lead 47-40 at halftime.

The Spurs lead the Cavaliers 26-21 at the end of the first quarter. Tony Parker has eight points and Tim Duncan has seven for the Spurs. LeBron James has nine points for the Cavs.

Starters according to the box: Tony Parker, Roger Mason Jr., Michael Finley, Matt Bonner and Tim Duncan.

[siraulo23]

why did the cavs bigs shoot so bad? ziggy, shaq and the rest shot like 30 percent. just a coincidence or was the spurs interior d pretty good?

i hope its the d

[xellos88330]

why did the cavs bigs shoot so bad? ziggy, shaq and the rest shot like 30 percent. just a coincidence or was the spurs interior d pretty good?

LeBron wasn't able to create for them. He only had 1 AST.

[Spursmania]

I'd say the guy with an effortless 22 would be the impact player of the game..

I know. But after the game the Spurs announcers always announce an impact player of the game. They usually don't have the privilege of hearing from the big 3 much. So, instead of TP they pick secondary players. Tonight, they announced Hairston as Player of the game.

[Pauleta14]

Hill, Hairston and Blair have all demonstrated a nice ability to draw fouls and get to the line. Good stuff.


EVERY PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE, thks to the replacement refs, has demontrated a nice ability to draw foul and get to the line........Bad stuff. :rollin

[jdev82]

to anyone who has watched multiple preseason games:
how has the defense been?

[Blackjack]

I think you need to re-listen.

Is that from the Schoening interview -- I can't listen from this computer -- because Ian did say that he had picked up some bad habits in the Euroleague with the way they're allowed to set screens over there; and he did say after viewing the tape he wouldn't be making those same mistakes again.

It's completely unreasonable for him to live up to that statement, which is why I'm not excoriating him for it, but it wasn't a wise proclamation on his part.

The guy just seems to need more court time than he's been getting, thus far, if he's going to get up to speed in time to be a real contributor this year.

[Spursmania]

Oh, interesting..good to hear..

:toast

[Spursmania]

Don Newman -asst, coach, discussing the importance of keeping the guys fresh for the playoffs.

It's going to be a long year. Not many back to backs for Timmy maybe even Manu. It will be interesting to see how Pop allocates the minutes and the rest schedule.

[benefactor]

I'm tellin' you...

The ability of the Spurs' young guys to get to the foul line, combined with the Big 3+1's exploits, and I'm absolutely ecstatic about this team.
There is no reason why we can't be a top 5 team in getting to the line.

[Blackjack]

So, I saw timvp lurking at the start of this blog but haven't seen him since..

Hopefully that means we had some eyes at the AT&T.

[benefactor]

xtremesteven was at the game. He posted earlier in the thread.

[DPG21920]

Is that from the Schoening interview -- I can't listen from this computer -- because Ian did say that he had picked up some bad habits in the Euroleague with the way they're allowed to set screens over there; and he did say after viewing the tape he wouldn't be making those same mistakes again.

It's completely unreasonable for him to live up to that statement, which is why I'm not excoriating him for it, but it wasn't a wise proclamation on his part.

The guy just seems to need more court time than he's been getting, thus far, if he's going to get up to speed in time to be a real contributor this year.

It was from practice. They asked Ian why he was in foul trouble and he said he was having to adjust from playing overseas and being back in the NBA. He said that the coaches had him watch film and that he had to adjust. He never said he would not make those same mistakes again, at least not in that video.

He does need more court time and I don't know if he will ever correct his fouling. But it is unfair to say anything about his comments, considering he is young and that he was coming off a game where he did foul less.

[duncan228]

James scores 22 in return from flu, but Cavs lose (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap?gid=2009101624)
By Paul J. Weber

LeBron James is apparently feeling much better.

James returned from missing a game with the flu and scored 22 points in 19 minutes in a 105-98 preseason loss to the San Antonio Spurs on Friday night.

James, who said before the game his flu recovery was going well, was 7 of 14 from the field and had six rebounds. He’s still expected to sit out Saturday’s game against Dallas.

Tony Parker scored 22 points to lead the Spurs, who were without coach Gregg Popovich who wasn’t sick, just taking the night off.

Along with James, Darnell Jackson and Coby Karl of the Cavaliers also tested positive for Influenza A. Six Cleveland players have had flu-like symptoms this week.

Karl and Jackson returned with James, and Cleveland coach Mike Brown said everyone was on the upswing.

Mo Williams scored 15 points and had six assists for Cleveland, while Shaquille O’Neal made just 3 of 11 shots, finishing with eight points and 13 rebounds.

Tim Duncan scored 13 points and had nine rebounds for the Spurs before watching the second half from the bench, where he was the key authority figure in Popovich’s absence. Popovich gave his assistants a crack at coaching, which isn’t a unique move for him during the preseason.

James stayed home Wednesday when the Cavs lost to Washington. He had spent two days in bed battling the bug but arrived in Texas looking refreshed.

He sailed high just 4 minutes into the game to snatch a half-court alley-oop pass from Williams and throw it down. He ran backward with a huge grin after hitting a tough 3-pointer midway through the third quarter, then took a seat for the rest of the night.

The crew of replacement officials called 61 fouls, and the teams combined to shoot 78 free throws.

Richard Jefferson and Manu Ginobili didn’t play for the Spurs. Parker shot 7 of 14 from the field and had seven assists, and George Hill scored 13 points.

Jamario Moon scored 12 points and Russell Robinson had 11 for Cleveland.

James has said he believes he may have gotten the flu from the shot he and his teammates got recently to fight the virus. The Cavs treated James, Jackson and Karl as if they had the H1N1 virus but have only tested positive for Influenza A. The team has not gotten the results to see whether they had H1N1.

Jackson scored four points in 23 minutes and Karl went 1 for 7 from the field, finishing with two points.

Cavs guard Delonte West, who has spent time away from the club this month while dealing with personal and legal issues, was with the team but didn’t play. Brown said he’ll let Cavs general manager Danny Ferry decide when West is ready to return.

West is being treated for bipolar disorder and has pending misdemeanor weapons charges after he was arrested in Maryland carrying three loaded guns.

[Blackjack]

There is no reason why we can't be a top 5 team in getting to the line.

I'd settle for a little better than the middle of the pack, given what we've come to expect.:lol

The foul line is just such an over-looked aspect of the game, that so many too easily dismiss.

It helps the O, the D, controls tempo, and can change the whole mentality and aggression of the opponent in your favor.

And I'm perfectly aware that these refs border on the verge of abortion, but Hill, Mahinmi, Hairston, and Blair can get to the line in any league on any planet. It's just the way they're built, the way they attack, and a knack you either have or don't.

Manu and RJ are both very adept at getting to the line and I expect Tony to have a little more success now that he has more talent on the floor to keep the opponent off balance; there should be a lot more times where Tony attacks a defense that is on their heels and trying to recover now that there's more weapons to honor. Tim I've never felt got to the line as much as he should, and the rule changes have only made it worse and more noticable with his not so subtle displeasure he displays to refs, but he's still going to put fouls on a team and get to the line at a decent clip.

Like I said before, it's quite the exciting development.

[Blackjack]

It was from practice. They asked Ian why he was in foul trouble and he said he was having to adjust from playing overseas and being back in the NBA. He said that the coaches had him watch film and that he had to adjust. He never said he would not make those same mistakes again, at least not in that video.

He does need more court time and I don't know if he will ever correct his fouling. But it is unfair to say anything about his comments, considering he is young and that he was coming off a game where he did foul less.

Like I said, I'm not going to kill the guy for it, but he was pretty emphatic with the statement he made to Schoening; it just wasn't all that smart.

I don't mind a setback every now and again -- he's a young, developing player -- but I'm hoping to see a better than 1:1 ratio of good to bad.

I'm hopeful for a contributor; I'm not looking for a world-beater.

[Sdayi135]

I liked that Bonner and Fin were kept at 15 mins... if that's the plan, there might be hope...


15 mins? try like 15 secs/piece...then there will be hope.

[Bruno]

Hairston was a starter the game before and was the only unproven player to get minutes in the first half for this game. It looks like he is in a in-between situation and Spurs' staff isn't sure about what to do with him.

The situation looks clearer for the rest of the unproven players. Blair has earned a spot and the others will be cut, traded or in the doghouse.

[Spurs Brazil]

http://www.nba.com/spurs/gameday/091016.html

Highlights

Two nice plays by Malik in the end of the video

[Chieflion]

On another note, it seems like the only way the Spurs can get some coverage and front page view on nba.com is by playing the Cavs or Lakers. Even then, it says "Cavaliers lose to Spurs" which puts more emphasis on the Cavs losing than the Spurs winning. Bunch of Cavs highlights even though they lost. As always, Spurs are crowned as the most boring team.

[Thunder Dan]

you are all lucky J.J. Hickson came down with the flu

[CGD]

you are all lucky J.J. Hickson came down with the flu

:lol

[Manufan909]

I went to the game last night, and these are just some of my thoughts. They aren't too detailed, because I had nose bleed seats behind the backboard where the Spurs bench was. Manu's bald spot is HUGE in person, and I was over a hundred yards away. My girl mentioned rogaine, but I told her that Manu probably tried it, and it didn't do anything.

Dice is a damn pimp.:hat His fade away jays, as well as his stop n' pop jumpers were all smooth as hell, and he looked great on D. It's funny I didn't think he looked like a player in the media day pics, but seeing him play in a Spurs jersey was awesome. Him not starting over Bonner, a clearly inferior player, was a travesty.:bang


Theo is awesome on D, but damn the range on his jay is like 4 ft. He weak side blocked the hell out of Big Z, so it's all good.

Balir was too passive for my tastes to start, but once he got going he looked even more stupid, out of his 4 scoring chances, he took it to the paint twice with success, hit a beautiful jumper, and got fouled. If he is in with the 2nd unit, he should make himself an option in the paint every chance. The Cavs bigs could do nothing to contain him. I could have sworn he had more than 2 boards, but maybe the Cavs were making their shots or there were a lot of long bounces when he was in. Fuck, I wish I'd seen that Clipper game instead, he got way more minutes then, so he got more and more confident, and almost put the team on his back like in Miami.

Tim is out of shape, and he actually shot worse at the line than The Big Pretzel. Hell, Shaq scored on him all 3 times, but he couldn't score on Matt.:lol His jumper was beautiful though. Don't know his jumper percentage, but I know Dice's, cuz Antonio only shot jays.

Parker was perfect in about every respect, there is nothing more I can say.

Bogans is good on D, but nothing else. He was actually solid on Lebron, despite the fact he gives up more inches and pounds to Lebron than anyone Pop has assigned to Lebron since ever.

Hairston is better than Bogans on D, and he is light years ahead of Bogans on O. His one jumper was smooth, and outside of a rushed 3 he looked great, iirc. He almost dunked, but I guess it's good he didn't, since that would have pissed Pop off (who wasn't even there).

Hill was awesome, but the Spurs need to practice lobs, since the 2 he got the chance for he was bailed out by the zebras, the timing was also way off. But otherwise he was solid on both ends, he just needs to learn how to move the ball around more.

Ian still needs to work on fouling, and read the definition of a charge. Running with someone and then falling to the ground won't even work on the shitty refs there are now. Otherwise he was solid. He isn't even proving he is worth 7 mpg, imo. The only big playing worse is Haislip, and he doesn't know the system, as well as having played 4 yrs abroad. Ian is whining about playing like 50 minutes overall in this past summers tourney, concerning his horrible screens.

Haislip, Bonner, Mason, Finley, and Williams really didn't show any reason for them to be on the team, outside of experience with the Spurs system. Since MW and Haislip don't have xp with the Spurs plays and such, they looked even worse.

Mason was by far the most disappointing player of the game. His shots were open as usual, he was just stinking it up. And he still is mediocre on D, he got schooled a couple times by a player Ive never heard of. At least I know he is in a slump, with Bogans I am more concerned.

P.S. After reading my post, I realized I should never EVER do game thoughts. I just jump around too much. But I don't care, I'm too excited (at least I didn't write in poem format)!!!! Outside of Bonner playing, RJ and Manu not playing, and Blair and Hairston not really getting involved in the offense, last night was sweet.

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[Blackjack]

Appreciate it, Manufan909.:tu

The more first-hand accounts the better, as far as I'm concerned. It allows someone like myself to piecemeal their thoughts and get an overall better read on the team and how they're playing; what one person forgets or doesn't see, another remembers or catches.

[TJastal]

I went to the game last night, and these are just some of my thoughts. They aren't too detailed, because I had nose bleed seats behind the backboard where the Spurs bench was. Manu's bald spot is HUGE in person, and I was over a hundred yards away. My girl mentioned rogaine, but I told her that Manu probably tried it, and it didn't do anything.

Dice is a damn pimp.:hat His fade away jays, as well as his stop n' pop jumpers were all smooth as hell, and he looked great on D. It's funny I didn't think he looked like a player in the media day pics, but seeing him play in a Spurs jersey was awesome. Him not starting over Bonner, a clearly inferior player, was a travesty.:bang


Theo is awesome on D, but damn the range on his jay is like 4 ft. He weak side blocked the hell out of Big Z, so it's all good.

Balir was too passive for my tastes to start, but once he got going he looked even more stupid, out of his 4 scoring chances, he took it to the paint twice with success, hit a beautiful jumper, and got fouled. If he is in with the 2nd unit, he should make himself an option in the paint every chance. The Cavs bigs could do nothing to contain him. I could have sworn he had more than 2 boards, but maybe the Cavs were making their shots or there were a lot of long bounces when he was in. Fuck, I wish I'd seen that Clipper game instead, he got way more minutes then, so he got more and more confident, and almost put the team on his back like in Miami.

Tim is out of shape, and he actually shot worse at the line than The Big Pretzel. Hell, Shaq scored on him all 3 times, but he couldn't score on Matt.:lol His jumper was beautiful though. Don't know his jumper percentage, but I know Dice's, cuz Antonio only shot jays.

Parker was perfect in about every respect, there is nothing more I can say.

Bogans is good on D, but nothing else. He was actually solid on Lebron, despite the fact he gives up more inches and pounds to Lebron than anyone Pop has assigned to Lebron since ever.

Hairston is better than Bogans on D, and he is light years ahead of Bogans on O. His one jumper was smooth, and outside of a rushed 3 he looked great, iirc. He almost dunked, but I guess it's good he didn't, since that would have pissed Pop off (who wasn't even there).

Hill was awesome, but the Spurs need to practice lobs, since the 2 he got the chance for he was bailed out by the zebras, the timing was also way off. But otherwise he was solid on both ends, he just needs to learn how to move the ball around more.

Ian still needs to work on fouling, and read the definition of a charge. Running with someone and then falling to the ground won't even work on the shitty refs there are now. Otherwise he was solid. He isn't even proving he is worth 7 mpg, imo. The only big playing worse is Haislip, and he doesn't know the system, as well as having played 4 yrs abroad. Ian is whining about playing like 50 minutes overall in this past summers tourney, concerning his horrible screens.

Haislip, Bonner, Mason, Finley, and Williams really didn't show any reason for them to be on the team, outside of experience with the Spurs system. Since MW and Haislip don't have xp with the Spurs plays and such, they looked even worse.

Mason was by far the most disappointing player of the game. His shots were open as usual, he was just stinking it up. And he still is mediocre on D, he got schooled a couple times by a player Ive never heard of. At least I know he is in a slump, with Bogans I am more concerned.

P.S. After reading my post, I realized I should never EVER do game thoughts. I just jump around too much. But I don't care, I'm too excited (at least I didn't write in poem format)!!!! Outside of Bonner playing, RJ and Manu not playing, and Blair and Hairston not really getting involved in the offense, last night was sweet.

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Thanks so much for the detailed recap from a spurs' fan perspective, Manufan. Seems a lock that Hairston is the superior player to Bogans. But if RMJ is hitting a sophomore slump, maybe having both these guys on the roster isn't such a bad idea.

I'm really now looking forward to seeing McDyess in action. He's playing just how I imagined he would. 2 more friggin weeks... *sigh*

[Manufan909]

Thanks so much for the detailed recap from a spurs' fan perspective, Manufan. Seems a lock that Hairston is the superior player to Bogans. But if RMJ is hitting a sophomore slump, maybe having both these guys on the roster isn't such a bad idea.

I'm really now looking forward to seeing McDyess in action. He's playing just how I imagined he would. 2 more friggin weeks... *sigh*
McDyess is all I imagined and more as well. Also, I think Mason was just off. I wonder what his 3 FG% is for preseason?

Appreciate it, Manufan909.:tu

The more first-hand accounts the better, as far as I'm concerned. It allows someone like myself to piecemeal their thoughts and get an overall better read on the team and how they're playing; what one person forgets or doesn't see, another remembers or catches.

Thanks guys, you made me all warm and fuzzy inside.I shall now use this emoticon in all seriousness.:elephant

[Obstructed_View]

(at least I didn't write in poem format)

I might pay a subscription fee to see that. :lol

[Spursmania]

you are all lucky J.J. Hickson came down with the flu

:lmao:lmao

[Manufan909]

I might pay a subscription fee to see that. :lol

I doubt it, think ducks to the power of five. Gives me shivers just imagining that.

[Muser]

Not going to make a thread for this, but why are OKC playing in Houston tonight, then flying all the way back to Oklahoma to play the Spurs tomorrow? Surely it would be easier on both teams to just play in San Antonio?

[MaNu4Tres]

Not going to make a thread for this, but why are OKC playing in Houston tonight, then flying all the way back to Oklahoma to play the Spurs tomorrow? Surely it would be easier on both teams to just play in San Antonio?

They play in Austin tomorrow....

[Muser]

They play in Austin tomorrow....

They do? NBA.com says Oklahoma are at home.

My bad if it's in Austin.

[MaNu4Tres]

http://www.nba.com/games/20091020/SASOKC/gameinfo.html?ls=gt1hp0010900096

Look under the Arena tab