Lakers vs Clippers

[IronMexican]

First game of the season, ring ceremony, and no griffin. I really can't see the Lakers losing tomorrow, Gasol or not.

[eyeh8u]

I bet you LA loses tomorrow :)

[crc21209]

With Griffin the Clippers had about a 10% chance, now they have a 0% chance...:lol

[IronMexican]

NBA TV sdhowing Lakers championship highlights right now.

[mystargtr34]

Without Pau, LA is a different team. Definately a beatable team on any given night.

[AussieFanKurt]

Teachers striking so I get to watch the first games of the season!!!!!1

[Texas_Ranger]

Lakers shouldn't have problems with the Clipps.

LAL 112 - 75 LAC

[IronMexican]

Couple more hours.

[Allanon]

Without Pau, LA is a different team. Definately a beatable team on any given night.

Without Pau, the Lakers would have had his bro, Marc who in my opinion will be >>> Pau.

The Lakers fucked up giving away Marc Gasol. Marc/Kobe/Artest on defense would have given new meaning to "No easy Layups".

http://www.interbasket.net/news/wp-content/gallery/nba-media-day-2009-10/marc-gasol.jpg

[TwinTowers]

Time to show the rest of the league who's the team to beat.

let's do it! lakers

[Thunder Dan]

why the hell is this the TNT game? Who gives a shit about the Clippers? Cavs/Celtics is an awesome start, and Lakers is good, but the Clippers?! wtf. Nobody cares about Blake Griffen that much, this isn't Lebron's first game where there was years and years of hype. He was just the number 1 pick, they have them every year.

[Allanon]

Ring ceremony game + Blake Grffin's 1st game bonus + Clippers powerhouse this year.

[Thunder Dan]

Ring ceremony game + Blake Grffin's 1st game bonus + Clippers powerhouse this year.

last years ring ceremony was Cavs/Celtics. Ring ceremony isn't an excuse to have a shitty game. Nobody will be watching. Throw us a bone and atleast put Lakers/Spurs, Lakers/Blazers, Lakers/Nuggets, Lakers/anything. Nobody wants to watch the shitty Clippers. Blake Griffen at his best will be Tim Duncan, a great player nobody outside of his home market wants to pay to see play. And, he is half white, so he will be even more boring than duncan. And, the Clippers are cursed so he will be Tim Duncan without winning, just fundamentals and boringness.

[tlongII]

B-Diddy!

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Nobody wants to watch the shitty Clippers. Blake Griffen at his best will be Tim Duncan, a great player nobody outside of his home market wants to pay to see play. And, he is half white, so he will be even more boring than duncan. And, the Clippers are cursed so he will be Tim Duncan without winning, just fundamentals and boringness.


Um, a few things....

1) Tim Duncan is also half-white
2) No one outside SA caring about him isn't cause of the player he is, it's cause he plays in SA. Different story if Boston got the top pick.
3) Have you ever watched Blake Griffin play? The biggest flaw in his game is that his post fundamentals are extremely raw and undeveloped. He's also known for great athleticism while Duncan is just the opposite....comparison makes no sense.

[Morg1411]

No Griffin tonight. He's expected to miss as much as the first 20 games of the season.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4597949

[DPG21920]

No Griffin.

Allanon, I want to head butt you for saying Marc will be > Pau

[mystargtr34]

Without Pau, the Lakers would have had his bro, Marc who in my opinion will be >>> Pau.

The Lakers fucked up giving away Marc Gasol. Marc/Kobe/Artest on defense would have given new meaning to "No easy Layups".

http://www.interbasket.net/news/wp-content/gallery/nba-media-day-2009-10/marc-gasol.jpg

First of all, i know you dont even believ that.

Second of all, and i dont even believe im going to justify what you just saud with a counter argument, but taking away Pau, and replacing him with any 11-7 Center, would make the Lakers a 50-55 win first/second round playoff team.

[EmptyMan]

why the hell is this the TNT game? Who gives a shit about the Clippers? Cavs/Celtics is an awesome start, and Lakers is good, but the Clippers?! wtf. Nobody cares about Blake Griffen that much, this isn't Lebron's first game where there was years and years of hype. He was just the number 1 pick, they have them every year.

Coverage is not about basketball.

The NBA is not about basketball.

It's about marketing.

[Culburn369]

Um, a few things....

1) Tim Duncan is also half-white

Him & Hussein Obama both. Neither one with a f'in U.S. Birth Certificate twixt 'em.

Just shows ta go ya.

[djohn2oo8]

Him & Hussein Obama both. Neither one with a f'in U.S. Birth Certificate twixt 'em.

Just shows ta go ya.

I can tell by your stupidity that you never finished 12th grade

[djohn2oo8]

muy buen, y tu?

[tlongII]

I wish we had the Blazers tonight.

I do too. It would be a guaranteed 0-1 start for the Lakers.

[IronMexican]

It's the final countdown. Tananana tanananana

[picnroll]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[picc84]

It would be a pleasure to plow Jeanie Buss.

Oh shit, Horry is there! Paying respects.

[Banzai]

coldplay playing.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Good to see Stern there with a smile on his face

[Banzai]

Phil going to plow later.

[DeadlyDynasty]

they booed sasha...lmaoooo

[picc84]

Feels good, man.

[Banzai]

Bill Walton at the ceremony looked like he was watching his son graduate lol...

[bostonguy]

Ring night is a fun one. LA should roll unless they feel like playing down to the Clippers.

[picc84]

Seeing Fish, Pretty Ricky, and Big Shot Bob there together yucking it up like the old days... *wipes tear* Feels good, man.

[iggypop123]

looks like the leg cross first shot is going to stay

[Dex]

Shaq, loss....check.

Dirk, loss....check.

Come on, Clippers. Pull out the miracle, put Kobe down on ring night, and let's go for the trifecta.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Is it just me or has Artest lost about 20lbs?

Odom looking sharp early.

Ans nice to see BDiddy in playing condition. :tu

[xellos88330]

Shaq, loss....check.

Dirk, loss....check.

Come on, Clippers. Pull out the miracle, put Kobe down on ring night, and let's go for the trifecta.

:toast

[PGDynasty24]

kobe's body looks so fresh you can see the spring in his legs

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

What's wrong with Pau?

[picc84]

Groin.

Hamstring.

[dirk4mvp]

Kobe misses 2 close shots and when the Clips grab the board, he wants to know where the fuck his foul was.

Neat.

[La Peace]

Hands in the passing lanes.

[InRareForm]

ironmexican, who dat in your sig?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Groin.


Hamstring.

Which?

How long?

:lol

Fuck, c'mon Bdiddy, take this shit over!

[picc84]

Eric Gordon is a serious stud. He's probably better for the Clips than B-Diddy is. :lol

[ElNono]

I really wanted to see Griffin... Oh well

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Fuck, man, any half decent coach could have this Clipper team competitive, but under Dumbleavy they look like a bunch of DLeaguers, just like they have as long as he's been coach.

:pctoss

[xellos88330]

Clippers look like they don't even want to win.

[ace3g]

Clippers within 3

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Nice bench, Fakers... :lmao

[picc84]

This is what happens when you try to establish DJ Mbenga in the post lol

[DPG21920]

The Black Rhino was nice little pick up.

[picc84]

It feels like Phil is just having fun with that lineup he threw on the floor. Like he just said fuck it its the first game.

[picc84]

Craig Smith owning us. Nice to see we can still make scrubs look like superstars.

[Allanon]

I actually think Craig Smith is one of the best of the better Clippers. That dude can ball.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Face it, your bench is not very deep. When Pau comes back, it'll be a little deeper, but in terms of quality it's Odom, maybe Brown and Powell, and not much else... Phil will probably make it work, but it's definitely your weakenss.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I actually think Craig Smith is one of the best of the better Clippers. That dude can ball.

Yeah, workmanlike but effective. Strange that Minne didn't keep him to back up Al and Love.

Now that Griffin is out, he'll actually get to play too.

[Banzai]

Yeah, workmanlike but effective. Strange that Minne didn't keep him to back up Al and Love.

Now that Griffin is out, he'll actually get to play too.

Any chance Smith takes Griffins spot?

[LakasRool4eva]

Them Kardashian girls are lookin pretty fine on opening night!!!

[picc84]

Khloe looked even worse than usual sitting next to Kim. Damn, LO. You couldnt just wait for Kourtney? :(

[DPG21920]

WTF Boom Dizzle. You lazy f*ck.

[Allanon]

Any chance Smith takes Griffins spot?

Smith's game is Big but he's actually only like 6'5-6'6.

Wide load and hardworking but he's still too undersized at PF; better at SF but they already have Thorton they're trying to develop.

[j.dizzle]

:lol good old phil..i kind of like seeing mbengaaaaaa this much hahaha hes funny to watch

[j.dizzle]

khloe kardashian looks like an overweight tranny..honestly i dont know what odom sees in her. He was actually dating a couple cute girls before he hooked up with her too.

[Allanon]

Pau might lose his All Star spot to Bynum.

17 points, 6 rebounds, 60% shooting.

[milkshakeballa]

Not sure if you guys have seen LO's baby mama...but she is UNREAL.

BANGING...10/10...BEAUTIFUL...

Don't know what he is thinking....probably a marketing stunt...it is LA...

[KSeal]

Nice bench, Fakers... :lmao

If Pau was playing Mbenga and Powell would only be out there in the fourth quarter of a blowout. But yes Walton/Vujacic/Farmar are absolutely horrible and they'll all get minutes, sadly.

[InRareForm]

Wide load and hardworking but he's still too undersized at PF; better at SF but they already have Thorton they're trying to develop.

thorton gonna be the same player, his numbers will improve, but he is nothign but a clumsy black hole kind of player.

[Allanon]

thorton gonna be the same player, his numbers will improve, but he is nothign but a clumsy black hole kind of player.

You know, I'm starting to agree with you. 2 years ago, he looked like a talent, now he just looks lost.

Thorton's hype disappeared real quick...he was one of the top candidates for Rookie of the Year if I remember right.

[Allanon]

If Pau was playing Mbenga and Powell would only be out there in the fourth quarter of a blowout. But yes Walton/Vujacic/Farmar are absolutely horrible and they'll all get minutes, sadly.

The bench needs Lamar to be effective. With LO, they look almost like a starting unit.

Without LO, they look like they wouldn't even make a D-League team.

[Purple & Gold]

Face it, your bench is not very deep. When Pau comes back, it'll be a little deeper

You're an idiot......

[KSeal]

The bench needs Lamar to be effective. With LO, they look almost like a starting unit.

Without LO, they look like they wouldn't even make a D-League team.

Yeah, LO does make a huge difference. And the second part couldn't be more true. Did the Farmar/Brown/Walton/Powell/Mbenga unit get even one stop or score one point? They may have but it sure didn't seem like it.

[milkshakeballa]

LOL at people laughing at the Lakers bench.

HAHA

Are you guys serious?

There is going to be 2 of: Kobe/Gasol/Drew/Artest/LO at ALL times against a decent team. THAT is our 2nd UNIT.

Wow this team is RIDICULOUS. SO STACKED.

70+ wins if they stay relatively healthy. (Nobody misses more than a week or 2x studs at one time)

God Bless Mitch K.

[KidCongo]

The bench needs Lamar to be effective. With LO, they look almost like a starting unit.

Without LO, they look like the Cavs bench that wouldn't even make a D-League team.

Fify

[Purple & Gold]

LOL at people laughing at the Lakers bench.

HAHA

Are you guys serious?

spursfans are grasping at straws now. It's actually kinda sad to see :(

[Banzai]

wow Kobe..wtf lol

[Allanon]

Fify

Do the Cavs have a guy that stabilizes/leads the bench?

[Spursmania]

I can't stand Reggie Miller.

[Allanon]

Yeah, LO does make a huge difference. And the second part couldn't be more true. Did the Farmar/Brown/Walton/Powell/Mbenga unit get even one stop or score one point? They may have but it sure didn't seem like it.

:lol I don't think they were THAT bad ... at least I hope not.

[DeadlyDynasty]

nice spin move by bynum

[Trainwreck2100]

LOL at people laughing at the Lakers bench.

HAHA

Are you guys serious?

There is going to be 2 of: Kobe/Gasol/Drew/Artest/LO at ALL times against a decent team. THAT is our 2nd UNIT.

Wow this team is RIDICULOUS. SO STACKED.

70+ wins if they stay relatively healthy. (Nobody misses more than a week or 2x studs at one time)

God Bless Mitch K.

susscribed

[Purple & Gold]

nice spin move by bynum

He's also almost automatic at the line. That's gonna be HUGE this year.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

nice spin move by bynum


No kidding, I've never seen such a fluid quick post move from him.

My only wish for today was for Bynum to beast for my fantasy team, so I'm happy. If he keeps playing like this no point in even watching this season.

[picc84]

*yawn* this game

Looks like a preseason effort.

[Man In Black]

Fuckin Gift calls for the HOME TEAM.

That Bynum missed lob was just that... a missed lob, and yet Davis gets a foul.

It's hard to beat the Lakers when they get double the FT attempts of their opponents.

[Purple & Gold]

Fuckin Gift calls for the HOME TEAM.

That Bynum missed lob was just that... a missed lob, and yet Davis gets a foul.

It's hard to beat the Lakers when they get double the FT attempts of their opponents.

You crying already?? :lol

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Any chance Smith takes Griffins spot?

What do you think? :rolleyes


Them Kardashian girls are lookin pretty fine on opening night!!!

Kim yes, Khloe :vomit:


WTF Boom Dizzle. You lazy f*ck.

He doesn't look right at all, and apparently has a bad ankle. Otherwise, he looks in excelelnt shape and should own some fuckers when his ankle is better.


If Pau was playing Mbenga and Powell would only be out there in the fourth quarter of a blowout. But yes Walton/Vujacic/Farmar are absolutely horrible and they'll all get minutes, sadly.

Sure, I agree aboutr Mbenga, although I think Powell will probably find 10mins a game.

But yeah, beyond Odom and Brown you've got shit. Lucky you also have Phil, who is a master at getting more out of lesser players.

[IronMexican]

Bynum's the man. I didn't expect to see him do this well this early. I thought it would take a month.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

You're an idiot......

:rolleyes

You have two decent bench players, Odom and Brown. When Gasol returns to the bench it'll be a little deeper - you'll have 7 NBA players, not 6.

Idiot.

[ElNono]

LOL Fish starting the fast break for the clips...

I tuned out this game an hour ago thinking the Lakers got this... WTF guys?
Toying with the Clips?

[Purple & Gold]

:rolleyes

You have two decent bench players, Odom and Brown. When Gasol returns to the bench it'll be a little deeper - you'll have 7 NBA players, not 6.

Idiot.

First off Farmar is actually pretty decent. But the main fact is that the Lakers will always have 2 of the 3 (Bynum, Gasol, and Odom) on the court at all times unless it's a blowout. You not recognizing that means you're an idiot.

[KSeal]

Sure, I agree aboutr Mbenga, although I think Powell will probably find 10mins a game.

But yeah, beyond Odom and Brown you've got shit. Lucky you also have Phil, who is a master at getting more out of lesser players.

Nah, Powell plays zero minutes unless it's a blowout. Bynum/Gasol/Odom rotation.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

LOL at people laughing at the Lakers bench.

HAHA

Are you guys serious?

There is going to be 2 of: Kobe/Gasol/Drew/Artest/LO at ALL times against a decent team. THAT is our 2nd UNIT.

Wow this team is RIDICULOUS. SO STACKED.

70+ wins if they stay relatively healthy. (Nobody misses more than a week or 2x studs at one time)

God Bless Mitch K.

No, it's not "stacked", it's top heavy. If it were "stacked" you'd have 9-10 guys that you'd be happy to have on the floor. Actually, you've got 7 - the current starters, Pau and Brown. Don't seriously tell me you trust Farmar/Vujabitch/Walton/Powell/Mbenga?

I agree that the Fakers have a powerful team, and I understand that at least 2 starters will usually play with the bench, but face it - you're 7 deep.

[milkshakeballa]

:rolleyes

you have two decent bench players, odom and brown. When gasol returns to the bench it'll be a little deeper - you'll have 7 nba players, not 6.

Idiot.

ahahaha

[ElNono]

Farmar is pretty decent and honestly if I were a Lakerfan I rather have him on the floor instead of Fish...

[peskypesky]

I'm impressed by this Gordon kid. Doesn't seem intimidated at all.

[Purple & Gold]

No, it's not "stacked", it's top heavy. If it were "stacked" you'd have 9-10 guys that you'd be happy to have on the floor. Actually, you've got 7 - the current starters, Pau and Brown. Don't seriously tell me you trust Farmar/Vujabitch/Walton/Powell/Mbenga?

I agree that the Fakers have a powerful team, and I understand that at least 2 starters will usually play with the bench, but face it - you're 7 deep.

How many teams do you think actually play 9-10 guys heavy minutes. This is almost as dumb as saying the Lakers have 5 elite players and nothing else so they suck :lol

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

First off Farmar is actually pretty decent. But the main fact is that the Lakers will always have 2 of the 3 (Bynum, Gasol, and Odom) on the court at all times unless it's a blowout. You not recognizing that means you're an idiot.

Farmar and "decent" in the same sentence... :lmao He hasn't done shit, in fact, he's worse today than he was 2 years ago.

Look fuckwad, I know you'll play starters with pine riders, that goes without saying. I've been playing and watching the game for 20 years. :rolleyes

Point is, your team is not deep, it's top heavy.

[peskypesky]

Go Clippers!!!!!!!!!

[peskypesky]

Clippers can take the lead.

[peskypesky]

damn...Camby's 3 didn't fall.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

How many teams do you think actually play 9-10 guys heavy minutes. This is almost as dumb as saying the Lakers have 5 elite players and nothing else so they suck :lol

You're about as subtle as a sledgehammer... :rolleyes

Who said a team plays 9-10 players "heavy minutes". Not me. Who said the Fakers suck? Not me. Try actually reading what I post rather than projecting your fears about your team onto what I say.

I said your team is top heavy and not deep, and you are yet to disprove that at all.

[LA24]

C'mon Lakers, stop playin with your food.

[KSeal]

Embarrassing.

Please don't bring in the all scrub lineup Phil.

[ElNono]

Was that Camby with a trey? LOL

I expect the Lakers to run away with this game in the 4th... Dunleavy is too dumb to win this.

[milkshakeballa]

No, it's not "stacked", it's top heavy. If it were "stacked" you'd have 9-10 guys that you'd be happy to have on the floor. Actually, you've got 7 - the current starters, Pau and Brown. Don't seriously tell me you trust Farmar/Vujabitch/Walton/Powell/Mbenga?

I agree that the Fakers have a powerful team, and I understand that at least 2 starters will usually play with the bench, but face it - you're 7 deep.

farmar is PERFECTLY serviceable off the bench...thats 8.

Luke Walton is PERFECTLY servicable off the bench...thats 9.

These guys use to be starters.

Farmar and Luke are the first guys off the bench for 90% of other NBA teams lol. What are y ou talking about 7 deep?

[Man In Black]

You crying already?? :lol
Make that TRIPLE. 28 to 9 in terms of FT attempt as of right now and despite that, this unbeatable Laker team is up by 1 at the end of the 3rd.

It's called an observation. It's the same shit you guys do when you say the Spurs tanked to get Tim when statistically, they didn't have the best odds and when you lose 4 players of your core, it's easy to finish with a terrible record.

I see no tears here BOY...What I see is a team led by Kobe Bryant who will be the 1st team to NOT REPEAT while playing for Phil Jackson...BOOK IT.

[Purple & Gold]

Farmar and "decent" in the same sentence... :lmao He hasn't done shit, in fact, he's worse today than he was 2 years ago.

Look fuckwad, I know you'll play starters with pine riders, that goes without saying. I've been playing and watching the game for 20 years. :rolleyes

Point is, your team is not deep, it's top heavy.

Lol @ I've been playing and watching for 20 years so I know what I'm talking about. That's almost as dumb as me saying you're Australian so no way you could know shit about basketball. And yes Farmar is decent even if you don't think so. BTW I've been watching and playing longer then you since you add some type of credence to that Dumbass.

[Fpoonsie]

Clipper v Laker games are so damn confusing. When the Clippers are the home team in the match-up, do the Clip "faithful" come out in droves?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Farmar is pretty decent and honestly if I were a Lakerfan I rather have him on the floor instead of Fish...


Look at the on/off court stats then say that. Farmar is a better individual player than Fisher but the Lakers are a way better team with Fisher on the court Farmar is garbage as a team player.

[Purple & Gold]

Make that TRIPLE. 28 to 9 in terms of FT attempt as of right now and despite that, this unbeatable Laker team is up by 1 at the end of the 3rd.

It's called an observation. It's the same shit you guys do when you say the Spurs tanked to get Tim when statistically, they didn't have the best odds and when you lose 4 players of your core, it's easy to finish with a terrible record.

I see no tears here BOY...What I see is a team led by Kobe Bryant who will be the 1st team to NOT REPEAT while playing for Phil Jackson...BOOK IT.

Do you remember when the spurs tanked for Duncan?? And yes you are crying like a little bitch.

[LA24]

No, it's not "stacked", it's top heavy.

If Lakers aren't a stacked team, what is a stacked team then ?

Top heavy ? Never heard that before.

[Man In Black]

Do you remember when the spurs tanked for Duncan?? And yes you are crying like a little bitch.

No I do not. And what I'm doing is making a stand. You bitches will see that time and again this season. YOU WILL NOT REPEAT. :hat

On that day...that's when you'll see tears :lmao

[ElNono]

Look at the on/off court stats then say that. Farmar is a better individual player than Fisher but the Lakers are a way better team with Fisher on the court Farmar is garbage as a team player.

I'll take your word for it. :toast

[Purple & Gold]

If Lakers aren't a stacked team, what is a stacked team then ?

Top heavy ? Never heard that before.

He thinks that teams are forced to play 9 or 10 different players equal minutes in a game.

[ElNono]

I can't believe the zebras just called that basket off for the Clips...

[Fpoonsie]

I didn't know Deandre was on the Clips! Whoop!

[Purple & Gold]

No I do not. And what I'm doing is making a stand. You bitches will see that time and again this season. YOU WILL NOT REPEAT. :hat

On that day...that's when you'll see tears :lmao

Ohhhh so you don't. Interesting.......

[Shank]

Craig Smith looks like Hakim Warrick's fat older brother.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Lol @ I've been playing and watching for 20 years so I know what I'm talking about. That's almost as dumb as me saying you're Australian so no way you could know shit about basketball. And yes Farmar is decent even if you don't think so. BTW I've been watching and playing longer then you since you add some type of credence to that Dumbass.

Fuck you're an idiot. I made the comment about follwoing ball for 20 years in response to you suggesting that I didn't know you play starters and bench players together. Duh. :rolleyes

I don't know why I'm bothering talking to you since you:
1. get things confused
2. put words in my mouth
3. are an epic dumbass.

You have a stong, top heavy team. You'd better hope you don't suffer too many injuries, because if anyone beyond your top 7 has to play heavy minutes you'll lose games.

[ElNono]

Baron Davis needs to turn into the Golden State Warrior Black Jesus persona before the Lakers run away with this game...

[dirk4mvp]

Clippers not a bad looking team.

[Banzai]

Clippers not a bad looking team.

true.

[Allanon]

Yup, Clips are alot better than last year.

Last year, they would have already folded.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

If Lakers aren't a stacked team, what is a stacked team then ?

Top heavy ? Never heard that before.

By top heavy I mean most of the talent in your roster is concentrated in the best 6 players, and after that there's a big drop off.

[milkshakeballa]

Fuck you're an idiot. I made the comment about follwoing ball for 20 years in response to you suggesting that I didn't know you play starters and bench players together. Duh. :rolleyes

I don't know why I'm bothering talking to you since you:
1. get things confused
2. put words in my mouth
3. are an epic dumbass.

You have a stong, top heavy team. You'd better hope you don't suffer too many injuries, because if anyone beyond your top 7 has to play heavy minutes you'll lose games.

Umm - the Lakers of ALL teams inthe league...ANY TEAM....are able to withstand an injury better than ANYBODY.

What exactly are you trying to say lol?

The Lakers are top heavy....and they are DEEP...PERIOD

[milkshakeballa]

By top heavy I mean most of the talent in your roster is concentrated in the best 6 players, and after that there's a big drop off.


See...the reason you think this is because our top 6 players are all basically all stars.

Doesnt mean the players below them suck...they are still servicable nba players.

thats the problem.

[ElNono]

Did Stern get a ring too? :lol

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Baron Davis needs to turn into the Golden State Warrior Black Jesus persona before the Lakers run away with this game...

He's not himself. Ankle injury. He'll be back to normal in a week.

[Man In Black]

Ohhhh so you don't. Interesting.......

A true tank gets you the overall number 1 statistical chance at attaining the best player for that year's draft. Again...when 4 of your core players get injured and miss large parts of the season due to those injuries then how can you call it a tank.

IF the Lakers lost Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, Derek Fisher, and say, Luke Walton, how many games can you win with the rest of the players. Bring in an old scorer who dominates the ball like say, Jamal Crawford...How many games?

Same logic, David Robinson, Sean Elliott, Chuck Person, and Charles Smith...Gone! Then bring in Dominique Wilkins. Can you call that a tank if you're a realist? So again...NO I DO NOT! :hat

[Fpoonsie]

Great image of Tex Winter and the lil girl picking her nose. :lol

[Purple & Gold]

You're about as subtle as a sledgehammer... :rolleyes

Who said a team plays 9-10 players "heavy minutes". Not me. Who said the Fakers suck? Not me. Try actually reading what I post rather than projecting your fears about your team onto what I say.

I said your team is top heavy and not deep, and you are yet to disprove that at all.

Who's projecting I'm just laughing at your dumbass. Not like I've never seen you type some stupid shit before. I remember this past year how confident you were the Lakers weren't gonna win another Ring. How'd that turn out for you and your 20 years of basketball experience??

[TheMACHINE]

No, it's not "stacked", it's top heavy. If it were "stacked" you'd have 9-10 guys that you'd be happy to have on the floor. Actually, you've got 7 - the current starters, Pau and Brown. Don't seriously tell me you trust Farmar/Vujabitch/Walton/Powell/Mbenga?

I agree that the Fakers have a powerful team, and I understand that at least 2 starters will usually play with the bench, but face it - you're 7 deep.

isnt this practically the same team that won the championship? Are you trying to scare us or make your self feel better? lol

[Purple & Gold]

A true tank gets you the overall number 1 statistical chance at attaining the best player for that year's draft. Again...when 4 of your core players get injured and miss large parts of the season due to those injuries then how can you call it a tank.

IF the Lakers lost Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, Derek Fisher, and say, Luke Walton, how many games can you win with the rest of the players. Bring in an old scorer who dominates the ball like say, Jamal Crawford...How many games?

Same logic, David Robinson, Sean Elliott, Chuck Person, and Charles Smith...Gone! Then bring in Dominique Wilkins. Can you call that a tank if you're a realist? So again...NO I DO NOT! :hat

You don't remember so I don't even know why you're trying to talk about this subject. But I'll fill you in. Consensus around the League during that time is they didn't bring back Robinson because the season was lost and big Timmy was coming out of Wake Forest were he would have been the #1 pick even the year before.

[ElNono]

That Odumb trey seals it. And Walton looks extra gay wearing that shiny shirt... :lol
Good win Lakers.

Nite

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Umm - the Lakers of ALL teams inthe league...ANY TEAM....are able to withstand an injury better than ANYBODY.

What exactly are you trying to say lol?

The Lakers are top heavy....and they are DEEP...PERIOD

No, deep implies you'd happily play the 10th guy decent minutes, and that is not the case. They are top heavy.

Let's say you lose Artest, your starting SF becomes Walton, a huge drop-off, especially defensively. You lose a frontcourt player and Odom needs to start, which means your bench is garbage (as demonstrated today) You lose a guard and Farmar, a guy playing for his NBA life, who has done nothing in 3 years, comes in. THAT is NOT "deep", that is TOP HEAVY.

You fuckers have a combined IQ of about 47... :lol

[LA24]

IF the Lakers lost Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, Derek Fisher, and say, Luke Walton, how many games can you win with the rest of the players.

That applies to every other team as well.

[mardigan]

See...the reason you think this is because our top 6 players are all basically all stars.



Who's the 6th?

[TheMACHINE]

Make that TRIPLE. 28 to 9 in terms of FT attempt as of right now and despite that, this unbeatable Laker team is up by 1 at the end of the 3rd.

It's called an observation. It's the same shit you guys do when you say the Spurs tanked to get Tim when statistically, they didn't have the best odds and when you lose 4 players of your core, it's easy to finish with a terrible record.

I see no tears here BOY...What I see is a team led by Kobe Bryant who will be the 1st team to NOT REPEAT while playing for Phil Jackson...BOOK IT.

ahha oh noes....he said to Book it! lol..i guess Lakers not repeating...

You guys are the same fucktards who said Kobe cant win without Shaq..and i bet you said "Book it" last year too. LOL.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Who's projecting I'm just laughing at your dumbass. Not like I've never seen you type some stupid shit before. I remember this past year how confident you were the Lakers weren't gonna win another Ring. How'd that turn out for you and your 20 years of basketball experience??

Yup, you are projecting because you keep ascribing to me words I never said.

I'll freely admit I was wrong about last year's championship. Not far off though - I predicted Denver to make the Finals, and they were closer to winning the WCF than you will probably admit. They had all kinds of chances in that series and choked. C'est la vie.

[Purple & Gold]

No, deep implies you'd happily play the 10th guy decent minutes, and that is not the case. They are top heavy.

Let's say you lose Artest, your starting SF becomes Walton, a huge drop-off, especially defensively. You lose a frontcourt player and Odom needs to start, which means your bench is garbage (as demonstrated today) You lose a guard and Farmar, a guy playing for his NBA life, who has done nothing in 3 years, comes in. THAT is NOT "deep", that is TOP HEAVY.

You fuckers have a combined IQ of about 47... :lol

LOL @ your dumbass. Lakers will still be fine if they lose Artest or a frontcourt player. Might not win it all. But not many teams will if they lose a starter. Or even a 6th player like your fanbases whiny fans always cry about.

[Fpoonsie]

I wonder if REGGIE will let Kobe pull out and cum on his face?

[LA24]

I expect the Lakers to run away with this game in the 4th... Dunleavy is too dumb to win this.

Correcto.

[IronMexican]

Wow, Kimbo Slice looks horrible. A lot of people expected a rebound year for him. Eric Gordon does look beast, though.

[LA24]

Damn, Lakers are "top stacked."

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

It's so easy to rile you guys. I agree with you that you have a powerful team, but argue that it's not particularly deep, and your only response is strawman arguments. Predicatable, but disappointing.


This is the same top heavy team that kicked the shit out of the Spurs without Bynum and Ariza.

2 years ago? Yeah, that's relevent.

[Purple & Gold]

Yup, you are projecting because you keep ascribing to me words I never said.

I'll freely admit I was wong about last year's championship. Not far off though - I predicted Denver to make the Finals, and they were closer to winning the WCF than you will probably admit. They had all kinds of chances in that series and choked. C'est la vie.

I'm just breaking down your own pathetic self assurances for the masses. Fact is hardly any teams really use a 9 or 10 man rotation unless the last couple are only getting spot minutes here or there. You should know that with your vast experience in basketball :lol

Face it you went up and down how the Lakers weren't gonna win and what happened?? Your predictions and basketball analysis are pathetic (anybody but the Lakers). Nothing but a typical spurs homer.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I really look forward to digging up this thread when you have a few injuries, Walton/Farmar/Vjabitch/Mbenga have to absorb the minutes, and you're all bitching about how shiity they are... :lmao

[LA24]

Bynum 1
Oden 0

[milkshakeballa]

No, deep implies you'd happily play the 10th guy decent minutes, and that is not the case. They are top heavy.

Let's say you lose Artest, your starting SF becomes Walton, a huge drop-off, especially defensively. You lose a frontcourt player and Odom needs to start, which means your bench is garbage (as demonstrated today) You lose a guard and Farmar, a guy playing for his NBA life, who has done nothing in 3 years, comes in. THAT is NOT "deep", that is TOP HEAVY.

You fuckers have a combined IQ of about 47... :lol


Ahaha...lets go through this then..player by player

Kobe: Top 2 player in the NBA
Pau:Best 2nd option in the NBA
Bynum: ALl star this year most likely? Looks great so far
LO:Beastin past 2 years...looks great...best 6th man in the league atm
Artest:Ex DPOY..still one of the best SF in the league
Fisher:Steady influence...clutch shooter...good PG

There is your 6...here is the bench:

Brown:Who many scouts think is BETTER than Fisher...one of your 6...great energy...teams would love to have this guy

Farmar:Backup PG...go head and list the back PG's in the league...he is better than half of them...playing for his life...no doubt he will get a contract next year unless he pulls a Sasha of last year

Powell:Solid backup 4. Very nice touch. Good energy and a good rebounder. No post game. Very servicable...its just most people don't know it...he rarely sees minutes behind the trio. When he does get minutes he produces...remember last year? @ SA? Ring a bell?

Walton: Walton..while not athletic...doesn't mean he is a scrub. Name the backup SF in the league and he is right in the middle of the pack IMO. Very smart player. Tremendous experience. Not an NBA player?

That right there is 9 players.


Looks like the Lakers are TOP HEAVY....AND DEEPP......SCARY HUH?

[Purple & Gold]

2 years ago? Yeah, that's relevent.

Unless spur fan uses it to pump his team up......

[mardigan]

Ahaha...lets go through this then..player by player

Kobe: Top 2 player in the NBA
Pau:Best 2nd option in the NBA
Bynum: ALl star this year most likely? Looks great so far
LO:Beastin past 2 years...looks great...best 6th man in the league atm
Artest:Ex DPOY..still one of the best SF in the league
Fisher:Steady influence...clutch shooter...good PG

There is your 6...here is the bench:

Brown:Who many scouts think is BETTER than Fisher...one of your 6...great energy...teams would love to have this guy

Farmar:Backup PG...go head and list the back PG's in the league...he is better than half of them...playing for his life...no doubt he will get a contract next year unless he pulls a Sasha of last year

Powell:Solid backup 4. Very nice touch. Good energy and a good rebounder. No post game. Very servicable...its just most people don't know it...he rarely sees minutes behind the trio. When he does get minutes he produces...remember last year? @ SA? Ring a bell?

Walton: Walton..while not athletic...doesn't mean he is a scrub. Name the backup SF in the league and he is right in the middle of the pack IMO. Very smart player. Tremendous experience. Not an NBA player?

That right there is 9 players.


Looks like the Lakers are TOP HEAVY....AND DEEPP......SCARY HUH?

So your saying that Derek Fisher is an All-Star caliber player? I just want to be clear on that.

[iggypop123]

gordon deserves to play on a better team

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Baron Davis is fat as fuck.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

gordon deserves to play on a better team


+1


Only player on the Clippers with any kind of heart. Poor guy.

[mardigan]

Baron Davis is fat as fuck.

That lumberjack beard adds 20 pounds on camera.

[LA24]

Baron Davis is fat as fuck.

What's Shaq then ?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I'm just breaking down your own pathetic self assurances for the masses. Fact is hardly any teams really use a 9 or 10 man rotation unless the last couple are only getting spot minutes here or there. You should know that with your vast experience in basketball :lol

Face it you went up and down how the Lakers weren't gonna win and what happened?? Your predictions and basketball analysis are pathetic (anybody but the Lakers). Nothing but a typical spurs homer.

Playoffs you're correct, but during the regular season a lot of teams play 9-10 deep for a lot of different reasons - matchups, tempo, hot/cold streaks, resting vets, etc. Would you like me to pull up 20 random boxscores from last year and we'll average the number of players per team who play over 5 minutes? I'd bet on about 9.2.

You've got nothing if you can't play the man. You're yet to make a cogent argument. You have a strong, shallow team, and over the course of the season I bet I'll find you and other Faker fans cursing the weakness of your bench (beyond Odom and Brown). We shall see.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

What's Shaq then ?


Obese.

[Man In Black]

You don't remember so I don't even know why you're trying to talk about this subject. But I'll fill you in. Consensus around the League during that time is they didn't bring back Robinson because the season was lost and big Timmy was coming out of Wake Forest were he would have been the #1 pick even the year before.
What you guys ALWAYS fail to mention is that statistically the Spurs had the 2nd best chance that year to get Duncan. So, why tank if you can't control the odds of winning the big prize? EXPLAIN THAT!
http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/article/2007-05-21/remaking-celtics-history

[Purple & Gold]

Playoffs you're correct, but during the regular season a lot of teams play 9-10 deep for a lot of different reasons - matchups, tempo, hot/cold streaks, resting vets, etc. Would you like me to pull up 20 random boxscores from last year and we'll average the number of players per team who play over 5 minutes? I'd bet on about 9.2.

You've got nothing if you can't play the man. You're yet to make a cogent argument. You have a strong, shallow team, and over the course of the season I bet I'll find you and other Faker fans cursing the weakness of your bench (beyond Odom and Brown). We shall see.

Who the fuck cares about regular season. The Lakers can fucking sleepwalk into the playoffs. Are you actually arguing about the regular season. You're more of a homer then I thought. Fucking laughable.

[Kobe™]

Bad game.


But a win is a win.

[Purple & Gold]

What you guys ALWAYS fail to mention is that statistically the Spurs had the 2nd best chance that year to get Duncan. So, why tank if you can't control the odds of winning the big prize? EXPLAIN THAT!
http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/article/2007-05-21/remaking-celtics-history

Do you know what the definition of odds is??

[Fpoonsie]

Did that stat just say that Phil is 11-5 on opening day games after he's won the NBA title?

Um...?

[milkshakeballa]

So your saying that Derek Fisher is an All-Star caliber player? I just want to be clear on that.


No ruffblahblah said we are top heavy

He said our starters tonight + Pau.

That includes Fish...

[DenDen]

Wow how amazing the Fakers beat the clippers

[milkshakeballa]

Did that stat just say that Phil is 11-5 on opening day games after he's won the NBA title?

Um...?

Lakers are..

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

You know you're good when you score 33 points and there's absolutely no reaction to it because it's considered an ordinary game.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Ahaha...lets go through this then..player by player

Kobe: Top 2 player in the NBA
Pau:Best 2nd option in the NBA
Bynum: ALl star this year most likely? Looks great so far
LO:Beastin past 2 years...looks great...best 6th man in the league atm
Artest:Ex DPOY..still one of the best SF in the league
Fisher:Steady influence...clutch shooter...good PG

There is your 6...here is the bench:

Brown:Who many scouts think is BETTER than Fisher...one of your 6...great energy...teams would love to have this guy

Farmar:Backup PG...go head and list the back PG's in the league...he is better than half of them...playing for his life...no doubt he will get a contract next year unless he pulls a Sasha of last year

Powell:Solid backup 4. Very nice touch. Good energy and a good rebounder. No post game. Very servicable...its just most people don't know it...he rarely sees minutes behind the trio. When he does get minutes he produces...remember last year? @ SA? Ring a bell?

Walton: Walton..while not athletic...doesn't mean he is a scrub. Name the backup SF in the league and he is right in the middle of the pack IMO. Very smart player. Tremendous experience. Not an NBA player?

That right there is 9 players.

Looks like the Lakers are TOP HEAVY....AND DEEPP......SCARY HUH?

Firstly, I never criticised your starters, I admitted they are very strong, so forget that bit.

Brown I already said I like, and Powell for what he is (an outside big). But you have no guard depth - Farmar has proven nothing, Vujabitch is a waste of space - and as for Walton, nice offensive player who is an absolute hole on D. I'd rate your bench somewhere around the middle of the league. I still wouldn't call it "deep" or "talented", as we saw tonight.


Unless spur fan uses it to pump his team up......

Did I do that? No, I didn't, so once again you project and put words in my mouth. Bad habit, that, and it makes you look weak.

[Fpoonsie]

Lakers are..

Gotcha.

Thanks.

[Purple & Gold]

Did I do that? No, I didn't, so once again you project and put words in my mouth. Bad habit, that, and it makes you look weak.

:lol @ you actually thinking I give a fuck what you think :lmao :lmao

[mardigan]

No ruffblahblah said we are top heavy

He said our starters tonight + Pau.

That includes Fish...

You said your top 6 players are basically All-Stars.
Then you said Fish was your 6th best player.
So I just wanted to clarify if you really thought Fish was an All-Star caliber player.

[Allanon]

Wow how amazing the Fakers beat the clippers

There will be lots of teams losing to the Clippers this year. Still, this was no win to gloat about, just like there's nothing to laugh about the Rockets losing to the Blazers today.

Next game.

[TheMACHINE]

No, deep implies you'd happily play the 10th guy decent minutes, and that is not the case. They are top heavy.



Who the fuck plays thier 10th guy decent minutes?! Even "deep" teams dont do that. LOL.

[IronMexican]

Wow how amazing the Fakers beat the clippers

I forgot that the we(Laker fans) were gloating.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Who the fuck cares about regular season. The Lakers can fucking sleepwalk into the playoffs. Are you actually arguing about the regular season. You're more of a homer then I thought. Fucking laughable.

Sorry, we were talking about the playoffs? Given that it's the first game of the regular season, isn't it reasonable to assume that's what we're talking about? You really enjoy changing the goalposts, but it doesn't mean you win the argument, it means you're a manipulative fool.

It's funny that you accuse me of homerism when we aren't even talking about my team, which has not been mentioned once, and everyone around here knows I'm no homer (for example, see the pasting I copped when I posted that we would be going nowhere in the playoffs, and gave good reasons, about 2 weeks before the playoffs last season).

[bostonguy]

I had a feeling the Lakers would half ass their way to a victory tonight. They tend to play down to average teams especially when those average teams are missing key players. I already know how good they are when they bring their A game. It is a long season. They are going to be going through the motions for the first few months.

[xellos88330]

Does Bynum have any 1 on 1 moves? He was getting spoon fed.

[monosylab1k]

Dunno if this has been brought up in the thread already, but I was at the gym and saw some sort of pre-recorded interview with Baron Davis playing in the 3rd quarter, and i just have to ask - has he officially joined the Nation of Islam?

[Allanon]

Stern needs his ass whooped to pair the Lakers against the Clipps on opening night.

Hahah, true.

[Man In Black]

I just want to say, that the NBA has started and...



This pic is bad ass.




http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2610/3802132670_5b2de39c59.jpg

[LA24]

Does Bynum have any 1 on 1 moves? He was getting spoon fed.

Yeah, he was spoon fed 26 points on 9-15 shooting.

[Fpoonsie]

Got damn Spur fan, stop putting negative mojo all over the place.
Just imagine the lashing you idiots are going to give the decent fans if the Spurs lose manana.
It's just one effing game.

+1

I think the additions this off-season has pretty much destroyed any chance of humility or GOOD "juju" on ST the rest of the way.

[IronMexican]

Dunno if this has been brought up in the thread already, but I was at the gym and saw some sort of pre-recorded interview with Baron Davis playing in the 3rd quarter, and i just have to ask - has he officially joined the Nation of Islam?

I think he has. He's gonna start selling bean pies by the Crenshaw mall pretty soon.

[Allanon]

Does Bynum have any 1 on 1 moves? He was getting spoon fed.

Oh he has ball hog Bynum moves...too many maybe. He's spoon fed because if you give him the ball to go 1 on 1, he's a friggin' black hole...he ain't kicking it out.

Bynum's got offense in bunches, he has to work on his defense.

[milkshakeballa]

You said your top 6 players are basically All-Stars.
Then you said Fish was your 6th best player.
So I just wanted to clarify if you really thought Fish was an All-Star caliber player.


Hmm...ABSOLUTELY NOT...I think Brown is better than FIsher...though Fish has balls of steel in the clutch

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I saw at least three Bynum plays where he was fed the ball, spun and created his own shot. As Allanon said, consistency and defense are his concerns, as well as injury.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Who the fuck plays thier 10th guy decent minutes?! Even "deep" teams dont do that. LOL.

Fuck, you people are obtuse. Read the whole discussion. We were talking about depth and injuries, so let's say you have 2 injuries, 10th man becomes 8th, do you happily play him decent minutes, or is it akin to pulling teeth?

In the case of the Fakers, it's be VBitch or Mbenga seeing those minutes (depending on who was injured) - would you be happy with that (aside from the obvious unhappiness associated with injuries)?


@ you actually thinking I give a fuck what you think

No, it's quite clear that you don't, and that you can't read, and that you choose to respond with strawmen and personal attacks, so why are you talking to me? Because you've got an anger problem over your 3" penis, obviously.

See you in 4 months when you're bitching about how fucking terrible your deep bench players are. :tu

[milkshakeballa]

Bynum is pretty much a blackhole right now. He needs to understand he can send it back out to a guard and it can still comeback.

And don't expect many 26 point games by Drew when Pau is back.

[Purple & Gold]

Sorry, we were talking about the playoffs? Given that it's the first game of the regular season, isn't it reasonable to assume that's what we're talking about? You really enjoy changing the goalposts, but it doesn't mean you win the argument, it means you're a manipulative fool.

It's funny that you accuse me of homerism when we aren't even talking about my team, which has not been mentioned once, and everyone around here knows I'm no homer (for example, see the pasting I copped when I posted that we would be going nowhere in the playoffs, and gave good reasons, about 2 weeks before the playoffs last season).

Yes the most important thing is the regular season :rolleyes

Look Laker fans don't give a fuck about the regular season. It's only to see how many highlights Kobe can make and who else will step up to get ready for the playoffs. So when you're talking about team weaknesses that only come along a few times in the regular season when you're talking to fans of a team that has 15 Championships you look like an idiot. And yes you are a homer, but maybe you've finally seen the light. Or just a pathetic Laker hater that's just seen the Lakeshow win the Team of the Decade Title AGAIN at the expense of your beloved spurs.

[LA24]

See you in 4 months when you're bitching about how fucking terrible your deep bench players are. :tu

Likewise. :toast

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I just want to say, that the NBA has started and...

This pic is bad ass.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2610/3802132670_5b2de39c59.jpg

I'd say "great ass". :D

Later, Faker fools (except Allanon, who is a very reasonable man). Enjoy that "deep" bench of yours. :lmao

[Purple & Gold]

Because you've got an anger problem over your 3" penis, obviously.

:lol @ ruffnready projecting

[xellos88330]

Oh he has ball hog Bynum moves...too many maybe. He's spoon fed because if you give him the ball to go 1 on 1, he's a friggin' black hole...he ain't kicking it out.

Bynum's got offense in bunches, he has to work on his defense.

I see...

I was wondering why I didn't see many 1 on 1 moves from him tonight. From what I saw, most of his misses came from 1 on 1 play.

He is definitely great on a team. I don't think he is at all-star level yet until he can become consistent 1 on 1.

[milkshakeballa]

Fuck, you people are obtuse. Read the whole discussion. We were talking about depth and injuries, so let's say you have 2 injuries, 10th man becomes 8th, do you happily play him decent minutes, or is it akin to pulling teeth?


This is retarded because the Lakers are probably one of the top 3 or 4 teams in NBA history to handle this problem and BY FAR better than ANY TEAM IN THE LEAGUE.

Who in the heck are you putting this team up against? Do you even read what you write?

[Purple & Gold]

Bynum is pretty much a blackhole right now. He needs to understand he can send it back out to a guard and it can still comeback.

And don't expect many 26 point games by Drew when Pau is back.

Only really thing I'm not liking about his game right now. He's turning into a huge blackhole. Hope they fix this soon. Maybe why Kareem won't be around as much.

[Culburn369]

Poor Artest. I thought he was gonna cry after Kobe shot him that pass for the layup.

God bless him.

[milkshakeballa]

No shit. When he gets it he's shooting. I'd rather see Artest on the block more.

Yeh..Artest for the 2 or 3 minutes he got in the 2nd with the bench he looked GREAT. He passed up WAY too many opportunities tho where he needs to attack. He had a possession in the 4rth where he got it in the post and went straight to the rack and drew a foul. He needs to do that more often and his WIDE OPEN 3's will fall. I think Kobe was right when he said he isn't use to being this wide open.

[LnGrrrR]

Nice to see that the Laker fans on this board are staying humble and classy. :toast:rolleyes:downspin::rollin

[LA24]

Poor Artest. I thought he was gonna cry after Kobe shot him that pass for the layup.

God bless him.

And that "glance" for Kobe's approval afterwards was priceless.

[Purple & Gold]

Nice to see that the Laker fans on this board are staying humble and classy. :toast:rolleyes:downspin::rollin

Hey celtic fan. Fuck off :toast


Ohhhh congrats on your newborn btw

[KidCongo]

Oh he has ball hog Bynum moves...too many maybe. He's spoon fed because if you give him the ball to go 1 on 1, he's a friggin' black hole...he ain't kicking it out.

Bynum's got offense in bunches, he has to work on his defense.

He sprints down to the court looking to score but he lumbers going the other way.

[picc84]

Its amazing that I can say without too much trepidation eric gordon is already better than B-diddy is.

[21_Blessings]

Bynum shot 9/15 last night milkshake. How is that "turning into a blackhole". Do you even know what that word means?

Bynum took like one shot in the 4th quarter while Kobe did his ISO thing (which isn't the triangle at all by the way).


No shit. When he gets it he's shooting. I'd rather see Artest on the block more.

Yeah lets give it to the career 40% shooter instead of the 56% shooting big man.

[21_Blessings]

And don't expect many 26 point games by Drew when Pau is back.

Yeah it's not like Bynum scored 42 last season with Pau in the lineup or anything.

Do you guys realize how easy Bynum got those 26 last night?

I know you many Lakers fan have lots of Bynum crow to digest, but you need to get over it. Healthy Bynum = top 3 center in the NBA.

[milkshakeballa]

Yeah it's not like Bynum scored 42 last season with Pau in the lineup or anything.

Do you guys realize how easy Bynum got those 26 last night?

I know you many Lakers fan have lots of Bynum crow to digest, but you need to get over it. Healthy Bynum = top 3 center in the NBA.

21

I agree...Bynum when healthy is a top 3 center. I agree. But EVERYTIME he touched the ball in the post last night...a shot went up. EVERYTIME. THAT IS A BLACKHOLE. Yes..he shot 9/15. Doesn't mean he WASN'T a blackhole last night.

And...right now...Pau is HEAD AND SHOULDERS a better offensive player than Drew and will be treated as such when he returns. Pau is and will be our 2nd option in the forseeable future.

[21_Blessings]

I agree...Bynum when healthy is a top 3 center. I agree. But EVERYTIME he touched the ball in the post last night...a shot went up.

Yet Bynum had two assists compared to 15 shots.

Kobe had three assists compared to 26 shots. Your logic makes no sense at all.


EVERYTIME. THAT IS A BLACKHOLE. Yes..he shot 9/15. Doesn't mean he WASN'T a blackhole last night.

No that isn't being blackhole especially when you're taking HIGH % shots that GO IN THE BASKET. You either don't understand the definition or just like to nit pick Bynum's performance irrationally.


And...right now...Pau is HEAD AND SHOULDERS a better offensive player than Drew and will be treated as such when he returns. Pau is and will be our 2nd option in the forseeable future.

He's not head and shoulders above Bynum offensively, but he's better.

I can see the Lakers riding Bynum the first half of the season and then ramping up Pau's touches the 2nd half of the season/playoffs.

Pau's nearing 30 and if Bynum keeps improving like he has been don't be surprised if Bynum becomes the 2nd option within a couple years.

[The Gemini Method]

If 9/15 constitutes a blackhole, I think you can pretty much label any no. 2 or 3 player on any team. With Gasol out, it is was necessary for Bynum to be aggresive on both ends of the court. Instead of nitpicking, you should be excited at the proposition that Bynum is looking to be aggressive out of the gate instead of being hesitant and taking a good portion of the early season to find his way.

[Banzai]

Artest shot quite a few threes last night..for being wide open and having time to set his feet..he sure misses horribly lol...

[Allanon]

Artest shot quite a few threes last night..for being wide open and having time to set his feet..he sure misses horribly lol...

I can't believe you couldn't find an appropriate GIF for that. You've lost a step Banzai.

[Banzai]

I can't believe you couldn't find an appropriate GIF for that. You've lost a step Banzai.

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/3/calm-down.jpg (http://www.threadbombing.com/details.php?image_id=4283)
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/artestkfc7oz.gif (http://www.threadbombing.com/details.php?image_id=1333)

[Allanon]

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Much better.

I never noticed that dude had a whole bucket of KFC in his hand before Ron slammed his ass. ... oh wait :lol

[milkshakeballa]

What is your defintion of a blackhole?

Mine is when the ball goes there...it doesn't come back out.

it has NOTHING to do with how many points you score...how efficiently you shoot...whether its a good or bad thing. Kobe was a blackhole when he scored 81. Kobe was NOT a blackhole last night.

EVERYTIME BYNUM GOT THE BALL IN THE POST - HE PUT IT UP.

I'm not saying its a bad thing...hell he shot 60%. And I'm not NITPICKING his game.

In another thread I said Bynum's game last night was an 8.5/9 out of 10. He played GREAT.

Doesn't change the fact that he was a blackhole last night.

And I could see a situation like that where they let Drew carry the load in the first half of the season. Pau is EXTREMELY unselfish and would probably have no problem with it as long as they are winning.

But the point stands....every so often when Drew gets the back on the block...he needs to kick it out and keep the defense honest. He is incredibly predicable right now.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Face it, your bench is not very deep. When Pau comes back, it'll be a little deeper, but in terms of quality it's Odom, maybe Brown and Powell, and not much else... Phil will probably make it work, but it's definitely your weakenss.


You're an idiot......


:rolleyes

You have two decent bench players, Odom and Brown. When Gasol returns to the bench it'll be a little deeper - you'll have 7 NBA players, not 6.

Idiot.


First off Farmar is actually pretty decent. But the main fact is that the Lakers will always have 2 of the 3 (Bynum, Gasol, and Odom) on the court at all times unless it's a blowout. You not recognizing that means you're an idiot.


No, it's not "stacked", it's top heavy. If it were "stacked" you'd have 9-10 guys that you'd be happy to have on the floor. Actually, you've got 7 - the current starters, Pau and Brown. Don't seriously tell me you trust Farmar/Vujabitch/Walton/Powell/Mbenga?

I agree that the Fakers have a powerful team, and I understand that at least 2 starters will usually play with the bench, but face it - you're 7 deep.

I told this Purple and Gold fool about the Faker bench back in October, but he and other Faker fans denied that it would be a problem. What happened to that guy?

Here we are in the playoffs... and well looky here:

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/04/23/death-by-substitution-on-the-lakers-awful-bench/

Your bench has been shithouse all year, and there have been many articles about it... but yeah, apparently I'm the "idiot", even though I saw what you didn't 6 months ago! :lmao

[21_Blessings]

Your bench has been shithouse all year, and there have been many articles about it... but yeah, apparently I'm the "idiot", even though I saw what you didn't 6 months ago! :lmao

You're an idiot because the Lakers bench was "shithouse" last post-season and they still won.

Stop acting like you're some original thinker or something.

[Muser]

You're an idiot because the Lakers bench was "shithouse" last post-season and they still won.

Stop acting like you're some original thinker or something.

Kobe wasn't playing like shit then.

[21_Blessings]

Kobe wasn't playing like shit then.

Nobody will fucking remember the Thunder series two weeks from now. Just like nobody fucking cares or talks about the Houston series anymore.

This is a fact.

[WalterSobchak]

I'm still waiting for the Lakers to turn on the playoff switch. When can we expect that to happen?

Still waiting........................................... .....