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Solid D
04-17-2005, 12:04 AM
http://www.nba.com/firsts/converse_050414.html

Last weekend, the Spurs played a lot more basketball than they expected
The Wild Weekend that Was

By Brad Friedman, Features Editor

Who knew 20 minutes could feel so long?
San Antonio’s nap time was dramatically cut into during last weekend’s sojourn to the Pacific Time Zone when the squad defeated the Clippers April 9, 125-124, and Golden State April 10, 136-134, in a pair of double-overtime contests on back-to-back nights.

http://www.nba.com/media/spurs/popovich_050406_188.jpg
Hey Pop, let's play two!
(Chris Birck/NBAE/Getty Images)

Only twice before has a team endured back-to-back games in which two five-minute OT periods were played. On this occasion, the Spurs, whose 58-21 record is good for second in the league, became the first squad to ever win both.

"Where they got the energy to keep going out there, I have no idea," Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said after the Golden state victory.

The triumphs – which took a combined six hours, 16 minutes to complete – are made even more impressive by the fact that the Spurs were without Tim Duncan and Devin Brown for the Los Angles game and Duncan, Brown, Rasho Nesterovic and Manu Ginobili in the Golden State contest.

"It's amazing," center Nazr Mohammed said about his team, which last won an NBA title two years ago. "It shows a lot of character having so many injured players and still getting the win. It will build confidence going into the playoffs."

The four sidelined members average a combined 50.2 points per game this season, which is over half of San Antonio's points per game production for the season.

That didn't stop the short-handed Spurs from scoring 136 against the Warriors, a total second only this season to Dallas’ 137 points versus Washington on Jan. 18. Combined with their 125 points against the Clippers, the Spurs posted 261 points over the two game stretch, the highest for a such a period since the Milwaukee Bucks totaled 267 on Jan. 8 and Jan. 10 in 2000.

"I have to give a lot of credit to San Antonio coming off back-to-back double overtime games," Warriors coach Mike Montgomery said. "That's why they've won championships and why they win games. They have a good group of guys who know how to compete."

Historically, teams facing the double-OT challenge haven’t faired nearly as well as the Spurs.

The Vancouver Grizzlies won a double overtime game at the L.A. Clippers on Feb. 16, 1999, and then dropped a triple overtime decision to the Boston Celtics the following night, 131-129.

The Minneapolis Lakers also had back-to-back triple overtime games during the 1951-52 season when they lost to the Philadelphia Warriors in triple overtime, 105-103, and then won a triple overtime the next day against the Baltimore Bullets, 96-90.

Other interesting overtime tidbits:

-- The epic triple-OT battle between Detroit (186) and Denver (184) on Dec. 13, 1983 set several records, including: Most points by a single team (Detroit, 186); most points by two teams (370); and most 40 or more point scorers in a game (Detroit: Isiah Thomas 47, John Long 41; Denver: Kiki Vandeweghe 51, Alex English 47).

-- The most points in an overtime period is 25 in just five minutes by New Jersey against the L.A. Clippers, Nov. 30, 1996

-- Eight teams have gone scoreless in an overtime period and Denver and Charlotte combined for just two points on Jan. 13, 1997

-- The largest margin of victory in an overtime game is 113-96 by Portland after outscoring Houston 17-0 in OT January 22, 1983

Also:
-- The most OT games in a season is 14 by Philadelphia in 1990-91
-- The most consecutive OT games in a season is three by 15 teams
-- The most OT games won in a season is nine by Sacramento in 2000-01
-- The most OT games won, no losses, in a season is eight by Detroit in 2002-03
-- The most OT games lost in a season is 10 shared by Baltimore in 1952-53 and L.A. Clippers in 2000-01
-- The most OT games lost, no wins, in a season is eight by Golden State in 1979-80

whottt
04-17-2005, 12:08 AM
Great find Solid.

Solid D
04-17-2005, 12:10 AM
It would be interesting to know where Friedman got his stats.

whottt
04-17-2005, 12:16 AM
All those listed at the bottom of the page come from the Records part of the NBA.com site...

http://www.nba.com/history/records/regular_miscellaneous.html

They had just about all the single OT records there...what they don't have is any double OT records...which is what made me think the Spurs set a record in the first place...they won't have anything in that category listed unless a team has done it before.

The Triple OT records probably come from the Elias Sports Bureau, that's who was credited with reporting it when that news first broke.

FromWayDowntown
04-17-2005, 12:17 AM
It would be interesting to know where Friedman got his stats.

Most of that information is set out in the annual NBA Guide, which you can buy at pretty much any bookstore. Every year, the Guide has the boxscore of that Detroit/Denver game, and it has a long section of miscellaneous records related to overtimes (most points in OT, fewest in OT, most OT games in a season, most OT wins, most consecutive OT wins, etc . . . ).

The consecutive multiple-overtime case that the Spurs encountered, though, is so rare that it appears that nobody had tracked it before now. I think that's why it took so long for anyone to catch on to it.

I'm surprised that nobody in the national media has made the Massenburg link (TMass being on both the Vancouver and SA teams), but in light of the Minneapolis games, TMass isn't as unique as it had originally appeared.

SuBZer0
04-17-2005, 12:22 AM
Yea - I just saw that Converse thing when I was looking @ the box scores.