Who will be the biggest disappointment?

[da_suns_fan]

Which NBA off-season acquisition will be the biggest disappointment?

[Chieflion]

Nice timing. Especially seeing how Rasheed is doing well and Shaq has been reduced to a role player in Cleveland and lost in his 1st game.

[da_suns_fan]

I wasnt gonna go with Shaq. I dont think Cleveland is expecting that much from Shaq.

I was actually thinking of both Richard Jefferson and Shawn Marion.

[dirk4mvp]

Whatever player the Suns picked up to make their team better.


Oh wait.

[anakha]

Whatever player the Suns picked up to make their team better.


Oh wait.

Hey, don't knock the Suns. They've got Griffin, Lopez, and Collins.

[I. Hustle]

I think Marion or Snaq. It's a toss up.

[Sportcamper]

After last nights game I have to go with Shaq…He looks so old & he is very slow….Cleveland needs to limit his playing time…I can’t believe they took on his huge contract…

I am wondering if Richard Jefferson has ever had a bad season…Solid Player…

[Riverwalkman]

Winning a championship with Dwyane Wade helps Shaq adopted by some contenders afterwards. But they all should finally realize the move was totally a bust.

[Thunder Dan]

the Cavs got Shaq for Sasha Pavlovic and Ben Wallace

again, THE CAVS GOT SHAQ FOR SASHA PAVLOVIC AND BEN WALLACE

I'll say it again

THE CAVS GOT SHAQ FOR SASHA PAVLOVIC AND BEN WALLACE

they will be fine, just one game. Hard to come out and play at midseason form with a whole new team on opening night dispite what you basketball experts think

[spursfan09]

Jefferson....

I'm just being extremely pessimistic

[Sportcamper]

Dude...How bout Shaqs huge salary...:lol

[JamStone]

Andre Miller since Nate won't start him and Brandon Roy has some power trip over sharing play making responsibilities with an actual pass-first point guard.

[Thunder Dan]

Dude...How bout Shaqs huge salary...:lol
I'm not paying it, I don't give a shit.

plus, it's not much different than what they would be paying Ben Wallace. They were over the luxury tax anyway, so it didn't matter. Ben Wallace was making like 16,000,000 shaq is at 20,000,000 something, so it's not a big deal when you are already over the luxury tax. Keep reaching

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Whatever player the Suns picked up to make their team better.


Oh wait.

Well DSF has claimed multiple times replacing Shaq with Robin Lopez and Channing Frye will make the team better, we'll see how that works.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

But as long as Nash is having fun, Channing Frye is the off season acquisition of the decade.

[DeadlyDynasty]

the Cavs got Shaq for Sasha Pavlovic and Ben Wallace

again, THE CAVS GOT SHAQ FOR SASHA PAVLOVIC AND BEN WALLACE

I'll say it again

THE CAVS GOT SHAQ FOR SASHA PAVLOVIC AND BEN WALLACE

they will be fine, just one game. Hard to come out and play at midseason form with a whole new team on opening night dispite what you basketball experts think
Yeah, they got Shaq for 2 useless players, I'll give you that. They will improve, but I'm not sold on them "being fine." They will win most of their games due to sheer talent, but their pick 'n roll defense is going to suffer all year with Shaq. You can't undo 17 seasons of bad habits from the big man

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Their offensive spacing is also going to suck. The KG's of the world will be cheating off their man all day because Varejao is such a horrible compliment to Shaq.

[thispego]

artest. with extreme highs come extreme lows and this guy is on top of the world right now

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

artest. with extreme highs come extreme lows and this guy is on top of the world right now


How is 10 points and 5 rebounds on top of the world?

[Allanon]

Shaq was a great acquisition for the Cavs, made alot of sense. If they didn't have Shaq, they would have been paying $14 million to Ben Wallace anyways. Shaq's salary is off the books following this year.

That said, Shaq will be the biggest disappointment due to expectations of the Cavs contending for a ring with HoF'er Shaq. He's supposed to "Win a Ring for the King" but their major problem wasn't at Center in the first place. Power Forward has been and still is a problem for them since last year. Danny Ferry sold his soul for the now instead of the future by bringing in 34 year old Anthony Parker and no defense Jamario Moon. And their other guards are just too small.

After this season, that entire roster is getting blown up, with or without LeBron.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Power Forward has been and still is a problem for them since last year.


This, I know the Mexicans on this site love Varejao because he's from that region and think he's some world class role player, but he's a scrub who gets eaten alive by any kind of athleticism.

[CavsSuperFan]

Allanon knows basketball…:tu

[760Spursfan]

This, I know the Mexicans on this site love Varejao because he's from that region and think he's some world class role player, but he's a scrub who gets eaten alive by any kind of athleticism.


First of all, Varejao is from Brasil and as a mexican I would rather give props out to Eduardo Najera.

[Agloco]

Which NBA off-season acquisition will be the biggest disappointment?

Shaq overall, but I think Marion is gonna compete as well.

[dirk4mvp]

Marion will be a bigger pickup than Dick Jefferson.

[Agloco]

This, I know the Mexicans on this site love Varejao because he's from that region and think he's some world class role player, but he's a scrub who gets eaten alive by any kind of athleticism.

Yeah....Brazil is in the neighborhood.......

Dumbass.

[Agloco]

Marion will be a bigger pickup than Dick Jefferson.

lol 1st game fail

[dirk4mvp]

16 7 and 3 blocked shots sure is shitty.

Dumbass.

[phyzik]

Im going to go with Emeka Okafor

[IronMexican]

This, I know the Mexicans on this site love Varejao because he's from that region and think he's some world class role player, but he's a scrub who gets eaten alive by any kind of athleticism.

Hahah, that was pretty funny. Argentinian or Mexican would have worked.

[urunobili]

Ariza

[da_suns_fan]

Shaq was a great acquisition for the Cavs, made alot of sense. If they didn't have Shaq, they would have been paying $14 million to Ben Wallace anyways. Shaq's salary is off the books following this year.

That said, Shaq will be the biggest disappointment due to expectations of the Cavs contending for a ring with HoF'er Shaq. He's supposed to "Win a Ring for the King" but their major problem wasn't at Center in the first place. Power Forward has been and still is a problem for them since last year. Danny Ferry sold his soul for the now instead of the future by bringing in 34 year old Anthony Parker and no defense Jamario Moon. And their other guards are just too small.

After this season, that entire roster is getting blown up, with or without LeBron.

I agree that trading for Shaq wasnt much of a gamble. Its not like they were gonna play Palovic or Wallace and Shaq is in his last year so they truly were "rolling the dice".

As opposed to the Suns who fucked themselves over for years to come by trading for Shaq and losing a valuable trade asset in Shawn Marion. The Suns said they were "rolling the dice", but they were actually putting all their eggs in one basket. NOW they have said theyre hitting the "reset" button, only we dont get back Shawn Marion or even the salary cap space that we would have had if we had let him walk.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Mexico/Brazil
tomato/tomatoe

[Agloco]

16 7 and 3 blocked shots sure is shitty.

Dumbass.

Was referring to the team as a whole.

Dumbass.

[Thompson]

16 7 and 3 blocked shots sure is shitty.


I've read elsewhere (from Mav fans) that 5 of his points were in garbage time at the end of the game when the Wizards weren't even bothering to defend the rim.

[dirk4mvp]

I've read elsewhere (from Mav fans) that 5 of his points were in garbage time at the end of the game when the Wizards weren't even bothering to defend the rim.

False. He was the only reason the Mavs were even close in the first half when Dirk started out 1-6. But you can keep making stuff up.

[dirk4mvp]

Was referring to the team as a whole.

Dumbass.

Yeah cuz you replying to my post about Marion sure shows it.


:lol dumbass beaner

[Goran Dragic]

lol dumbass beaner

[Sportcamper]

Looks like the real Superman has some fight left in him...Shaq looked much stronger than the younger Superman...:tu

[Thunder Dan]

Looks like the real Superman has some fight left in him...Shaq looked much stronger than the younger Superman...:tu

they actually used Shaq last night, before they were just expecting him to have an impact on the game but were not putting him in position to do it. Looks like they got their act together with the 4 days off

[Indazone]

Ariza


FOR THE WIN!! :tu

[Agloco]

Yeah cuz you replying to my post about Marion sure shows it.


:lol dumbass beaner

Getting your shit sent into rich seats by Bogans qualifies. That alone puts Marion in the drivers seat of the failbus.

[dirk4mvp]

Hey did you bump this thread when Marion beat the Lakers by himself?

[DAF86]

This, I know the Mexicans on this site love Varejao because he's from that region and think he's some world class role player, but he's a scrub who gets eaten alive by any kind of athleticism.


Mexico/Brazil
tomato/tomatoe


Yeah cuz you replying to my post about Marion sure shows it.


:lol dumbass beaner


lol dumbass beaner

lol And then people bitch about KBP.

[Agloco]

Hey did you bump this thread when Marion beat the Lakers by himself?

Negative.

[DAF86]

And the answer to this thread is Artest.

[mogrovejo]

Shaq was a great acquisition for the Cavs, made alot of sense. If they didn't have Shaq, they would have been paying $14 million to Ben Wallace anyways. Shaq's salary is off the books following this year.

That said, Shaq will be the biggest disappointment due to expectations of the Cavs contending for a ring with HoF'er Shaq. He's supposed to "Win a Ring for the King" but their major problem wasn't at Center in the first place. Power Forward has been and still is a problem for them since last year. Danny Ferry sold his soul for the now instead of the future by bringing in 34 year old Anthony Parker and no defense Jamario Moon. And their other guards are just too small.

After this season, that entire roster is getting blown up, with or without LeBron.

Ben Wallace wanted to leave, he'd agree to the same buyout he got from Phoenix ($10 million). Plus, you have to factor the opportunity cost.

I always thought Ben Wallace still had plenty of basketball left in him: I believe his injury may have cost the Cavs a championship, because he was a big factor in their defence pre-injury. Actually, I think I'd rather have Wallace+Z than Shaq+Z.

The Cavs need to do one of the following to be true contenders:
- trade Z and filler for good wing (e.g. Jackson) and play LeBron at the 4 for extended minutesf (bringing Varejão off the bench as the 3rd big, giving teams a different look than Shaq at the C position)
- trade Z and filler for a starting PF (someone with quickness to defend the pick'n'roll and perimeter 4s and a well-ranged shot).

or just hope JJ Hickson has a break out season (and start him).

[da_suns_fan]

I wasnt gonna go with Shaq. I dont think Cleveland is expecting that much from Shaq.

I was actually thinking of both Richard Jefferson and Shawn Marion.

Bump.

Im not sure the Mavs fans are THAT dissapointed in Marion considering they didnt have to give up much to get him.

I was spot on about RJ, though.

[Findog]

Bump.

Im not sure the Mavs fans are THAT dissapointed in Marion considering they didnt have to give up much to get him.

I was spot on about RJ, though.

His defense has been really good this year. We finally have a good perimeter defender after getting eaten alive for years by Nash, Wade, Baron and CP3. It makes up for the fact that offensively he's pretty much a role player. And oh yeah, he makes half of what Dick makes.

[Ghazi]

And the Mavs are 3rd in the West...

[21_Blessings]

Hahah, that was pretty funny. Argentinian or Mexican would have worked.

Or Latino. Evertything South of Texas can apparently be referred to as Latino these days.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

So much for getting rid of Shaq making the Suns good again.

[Pelicans78]

Ike Diogu. Hasn't and won't play a freaking game this season.

[ClippersDynasty]

Blake Griffin...:depressed

[baseline bum]

Jefferson 1a)
Carter 1b)

[FkLA]

His defense has been really good this year. We finally have a good perimeter defender after getting eaten alive for years by Nash, Wade, Baron and CP3. It makes up for the fact that offensively he's pretty much a role player. And oh yeah, he makes half of what Dick makes.

First off Dick has been a big dissapointment no doubt.

But as for Marion did you just imply that he's capable of guarding guys like Nash, Wade, Baron, and CP3? Cause he certainly is not, never was able to even during his prime in Phoenix. And he may currently make half of what Dick makes, but he also got a 5 yr deal meaning he will be making about $10 mill at age 35. Dick comes off the books after next season and if worst comes to worst, his 16 mill expiring will be a huge trade chip.

[jb4g]

Jefferson 1a)
Carter 1b)

x2

great game last night Vince...really great man

[timtonymanu]

Jefferson, Carter, Sheed