Spurs look good but how are they gonna stop LA's frontcourt?

[j.dizzle]

First off good game for the spurs & they will be easily be in the top 3 this year out West. I know spurs fans will just say who on the Lakers will stop parker but im just wondering how they're supposed to contain all these 7 footers?

[Spursfan092120]

The same way the Lakers are going to contain a healthy Manu.

[Sense]

Duncan, McDyess, Ratliff, Blair ??

[DPG21920]

Too early to tell, but the simple answer, is they are probably not going to be able to.

[iggypop123]

at least wait till they play a regular season game before these threads start

[tlongII]

It will interesting to see the Lakers and Spurs battle it out for the #2 seed in the West.

[Chomag]

Matt Bonner Sons!

[Spursfan092120]

It will interesting to see the Lakers and Spurs battle it out for the #2 seed in the West.
Blair > Oden

[ezau]

I believe that the Spurs have enough height to at least challenge the Laker bigs. It's very early to tell but by the looks of it, it's going to be dogfight when these two teams meat. LMAO at tlongII

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I'm more concerned with how the Lakers are gonna contain Blair.

[in2deep]

I'm more concerned with how the Lakers are gonna contain Blair.

Too early to tell, but the simple answer, is they are probably not going to be able to.

[Biggems]

It will interesting to see the Lakers and Spurs battle it out for the #2 seed in the West.

so we agree......the loser of this battle will be #2 in the west.

of course this kind of insight is pretty much across the board.......so way to go out on a limb there buckaroo.

btw, has Grandpa left the rocking chair yet and gotten any playing time?

[ElNono]

I think there are mismatches everywhere, and we'll see how it plays out. But at any rate, I hope both teams stay healthy, and the rest will sort itself out as the season goes along. :toast

[MI21]

The Spurs at least have the height and toughness now as opposed to the last few years. Mobility is a completely different question though.

[Danny.Zhu]

Very tough. I thought we have no reason to be optimistic at least for now.

[NRHector]

But how is LA's bench going to stop SA's bench:toast

[NASpurs]

Bynum is gonna tear Duncan a new ass.

Only thing Bynum is going to tear are the ACLs on his knees.

[MI21]

Bynums worst case career scenario is a more explosive Duncan. Clearly.

[tlongII]

The Spurs and Lakers are non-issues.

[DrHouse]

The Spurs appear to be a very potent offensive team. Great ball movement, tons of wide open shots, and 3pt snipers were making the Hornets pay for backing off even slightly. Very impressed with the offense.

Not so impressed with the D though. Interior defense was lacking, I did not see a strong presence in the middle to deter penetration. Too many Hornet players were able to waltz into the paint and attack the rim. I don't think Tim Duncan can be the protector he once was at his age.

My preliminary prediction is that unless the Spurs beef up their interior defense they will fall to the Lakers who thrive on points in the paint.

[tlongII]

Good luck with thriving in the paint against us Doc.

[ezau]

Good point House. Spurs defense is still shaky right now but I believe things will fall into their place as the regular season progresses. Let's see, the regular season games between these two will give us an idea how they match. If there's one thing I'm sure of, the Lakers are going to work really hard with this upgraded Spurs offense.

[ezau]

Good luck with thriving in the paint against us Doc.

LMAO Oden

[DJB]

Bynum is gonna tear Duncan a new ass.

Not going to happen when he's made of glass. He'll be out for the season in like 6 weeks.

[milkshakeballa]

The Spurs appear to be a very potent offensive team. Great ball movement, tons of wide open shots, and 3pt snipers were making the Hornets pay for backing off even slightly. Very impressed with the offense.

Not so impressed with the D though. Interior defense was lacking, I did not see a strong presence in the middle to deter penetration. Too many Hornet players were able to waltz into the paint and attack the rim. I don't think Tim Duncan can be the protector he once was at his age.

My preliminary prediction is that unless the Spurs beef up their interior defense they will fall to the Lakers who thrive on points in the paint.
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Agreed now....but with Pop's coaching throughout the year you know SA's defense will be where it needs to be come playoff time.

Now...do I think that will be enough to slow down the tri? Not at all! But I'm a Laker fan! :lobt2::lobt2:

[21_Blessings]

Only thing Bynum is going to tear are the ACLs on his knees.

At least he has ACLs.

[Ghazi]

I think a better question is whether or not the Mavs can stop the LA frontcourt. And I'm gonna have to say no but I'll consider it a solid year when we make the WCF.

[Hooks]

My guess is getting your bigs in foul trouble.

The loss of Ariza takes away the only guy who could really guard Parker on LA.

As you know Bynum has a tendency to foul a lot. With Blair's physical play and with guys like Parker, RJ, and Manu driving it in 24/7 I think Bynum is going to have a tough time staying in the game. W/out Ariza, Parker should have a much easier time getting to the rim and drawing some contact from LA's bigs.



As long as we can get Bynum outta there, I think we have a very good chance at beating the Lakers. Gasol doesn't worry me as much, him and Duncan match up pretty evenly. It's just Bynum that worries me since we don't really have anybody to match up with him.

[Mel_13]

The first answer to the OP's question will have to wait until Jan 12th.

[My Fault]

at least wait till they play a regular season game before these threads start
+1

Plus were people expecting Duncan to come out the gates swinging? Timmy, Dice and Theo are the best defensive bigs the Spurs have. Yet all 3 will not be playing hard till the end of the season entering the playoffs. They're up there in age and with an 82 game schedule its best to save them till it actually matters. Offense is a given when you have scorers but team defense will take some work.

[hater]

LOL at lakerfan expecting Spurs defense to be in top form at game 1 of the season.

It's gonna take months for Spurs D to develop into what it supposed to be. Not to mention Dyce and Timmy are not even playing at 50% form yet.

[in2deep]

Not so impressed with the D though. Interior defense was lacking, I did not see a strong presence in the middle to deter penetration. Too many Hornet players were able to waltz into the paint and attack the rim. I don't think Tim Duncan can be the protector he once was at his age.


how can you post that with a straight face knowing your team let the Clippers score 92 pts??

[NASpurs]

At least he has ACLs.

Seems like ACLs are overrated.

Anyway Kobe is going to take him out soon enough.

[LakeShow]

The Spurs do look good. They modeled their team similiar to Orlando but they do have the one weakness in the frontcourt that the Lakers would be able to exploit. If Tim Duncan was the Duncan of old I would give them a chance but Duncan has declined and can no longer control the paint. I feel very comfortable with Bynum guarding Duncan one on one. The Lakers would just guard him one on one and let the auguably best perimeter defense in the league deal with the 3 point shooters.

Blair is good out of the Charles Barkley mode but he's too short to affect the Lakers front line. The Spurs would have to use Ratliff or Ian against the Lakers. That would weaken their offense.

It's a long season and if both are healthy should lead to a very entertaining playoff matchup.

[NASpurs]

Serious question, on paper, who has the best overall backcourt talent?

Back court wise, I think the Spurs have a lot of great scorers and shooters and they come in wave after wave but I'm not really digging the individual defense. Granted the Spurs play a team defense and it's still early in the season (1 game down) but if the defense can return to what it once was, I think the Spurs will be alright.

Anyway we'll see how the games play out.

Smack talk aside, I want all teams healthy. It seems like the healthiest elite team at the end of the season always wins the :lobt:

[benefactor]

I think it will be about team defense more than out and out matchups. If the Spurs can get back to playing team D in vintage Spurs fashion they will be alright. The Lakers will still undoubtedly be able to exploit some matchups up front, but I think that will be offset by the depth of the Spurs bench. They Lakers are going to rely heavily on their starters in a playoff series while the Spurs will be able to play lots of players lots of minutes.

It will be interesting to see which will be the greater advantage.

[quentin_compson]

We don't have to double anyone on their team.

Not even Bonner?

Well, I don't think there's a team that will be able to completely STOP LA's frontcourt. They are too long and good for that.

But with Duncan, Dice, Ratliff and Blair the Spurs should be able to hold their own - especially if you can try and get Bynum/Gasol into foul trouble on the other end of the court.

But I agree, it's way too early to really tell how the Spurs' D will look like.

[lefty]

Real 2009 NBA Finals: Spurs vs Lakers

[Venti Quattro]

Here is how I see it. If Kobe, Pau, Bynum, Artest, Odom post up, they have to double. We don't have to double anyone on their team.

Yeah, because tony parker would be leaving our point guards in the dust :rollin:rollin

[Spursfan092120]

Yeah, because tony parker would be leaving our point guards in the dust :rollin:rollin
I can't tell what you're doing here...do you think you're going to easily guard Parker or are you being serious? :huh

[Venti Quattro]

I can't tell what you're doing here...do you think you're going to easily guard Parker or are you being serious? :huh
Uh I'm serious. Don't I have any right to nitpick my team anymore? :toast

[Spursfan092120]

Uh I'm serious. Don't I have any right to nitpick my team anymore? :toast
absolutely...I was curious because of the laughing after the comment. :toast

[in2deep]

Here is how I see it. If Kobe, Pau, Bynum, Artest, Odom post up, they have to double. We don't have to double anyone on their team.

you gonna play 30+ minutes with that lineup?? so Kobe is gonna handle the Point and be the scorer AND post up?

dream on :lol

[Obstructed_View]

Wow, Lakerfan's already skurred after one game? This Spurs team must be better than I thought.

[benefactor]

Wow, Lakerfan's already skurred after one game? This Spurs team must be better than I thought.
Our win last night wouldn't be complete without an insecure Laker fan thread.

[Cry Havoc]

Wow, Lakerfan's already skurred after one game? This Spurs team must be better than I thought.


Our win last night wouldn't be complete without an insecure Laker fan thread.

:lol

[Spursfan092120]

Wow, Lakerfan's already skurred after one game? This Spurs team must be better than I thought.
First thing I thought too....and the insecurities begin...they haven't even gotten the plastic off the banner yet and they're already freaking out.

[z0sa]

Our win last night wouldn't be complete without an insecure Laker fan thread.

:lmao

We're baaaaack.

[I. Hustle]

Here is how I see it. If Kobe, Pau, Bynum, Artest, Odom post up, they have to double. We don't have to double anyone on their team.

Too early to tell, but the simple answer, is they are probably not going to be able to.

[rjv]

wow, and we are just 2 days into the season. this is going to be fun.

[urunobili]

and the insecurity begins...

[Culburn369]

When yer beat by the Mavs 4-1 you should be insecure.

[Spursfan092120]

When yer beat by the Mavs 4-1 you should be insecure.
lol...minus Ginobili, a healthy Duncan, a healthy Parker, what do you expect...Cubby, you beat the Clippers by 7 points and they were without their only good player...hmm...

[Shastafarian]

When yer beat by the Mavs 4-1 you should be insecure.

You're losing your touch. Maybe you should talk more about eating your own sperm.

[Culburn369]

You're losing your touch. Maybe you should talk more about eating your own sperm.

Hey, I didn't go there first. That Trainwreck fellow said it tasted salty, Luva called him on it, Ainge dissed Rondo, I like salty, I want Rondo.

[Culburn369]

lol...minus Ginobili, a healthy Duncan, a healthy Parker, what do you expect...Cubby, you beat the Clippers by 7 points and they were without their only good player...hmm...

I know, that's the difference. We beat the Clippers and the Mavs beat you.

Hey! That's why they have a scoreboard & they keep count. Otherwise, it'd be anarchy.

[benefactor]

When yer beat by the Mavs 4-1 you should be insecure.
Could be worse. We could be a 50 year old men who spend most of their day on the internet acting like a 14 year olds.

[Culburn369]

Could be worse. We could be a 50 year old men who spend most of their day on the internet acting like a 14 year olds.

I'd give up my salty essence to be 50 once again.

tee, hee.

[lefty]

Could be worse. We could be a 50 year old men who spend most of their day on the internet acting like a 14 year olds.
Like Tlong ?

[benefactor]

I'd give up my salty essence to be 50 once again.

tee, hee.
Point proven.

[Culburn369]

Point proven.

Relax, the Mavs won't beat you this year.

tee, hee.

[xellos88330]

To counter the size of the Lakers, the Spurs do have quite a few near 7 footers. Marcus Haislip, Ian Mahinmi, Matt Bonner, Tim Duncan, Theo Ratliff. If they can get their defense solid, the Spurs shouldn't have any problem containing the Lakers front line.

[Morg1411]

2 things.

1) Great win last night. Spurs looked good. However, lest we forget, the Hornets fucking suck, so while I'm thrilled by the victory, I'd hardly say it's the best test of our talent. (Much as, say, the Lakers performance over the Clippers on Tuesday was hardly indicitive of theirs.)

2) It's too fucking early in the season for this shit. Christ, let's play at least a few games -- maybe one against....oh, I don't know...the Lakers?... -- before we start conducing team-to-team comparisons or predicting the WCF.




Ok, a third thing:

3) Portland & Dallas fans, get fucking real.

[Dice]

Last season the last time McDyess and Gasol met up Dice had 14points 12rebounds 2steals and 1block with 0 turnovers. Gasol had 12points 11rebounds 0steals 0blocks and 5turnovers.

I don't think Mcdyess is worried about Gasol. Bynum can barely stay in a game where he actually has to guard someone. Repeated post ups by Duncan will send him straight to the bench.

I believe total team defense through the entire rotation of both teams will decide the winner whether it's the Spurs or the Lakers. Another big factor will be if the spurs continue to have the sucess with the 3-ball that they had last night.

[peskypesky]

Last season the last time McDyess and Gasol met up Dice had 14points 12rebounds 2steals and 1block with 0 turnovers. Gasol had 12points 11rebounds 0steals 0blocks and 5turnovers.


:flag:

[Culburn369]

How bout the last time the Spurs & Mavs met?

tee, hee.

[Fpoonsie]

How bout the last time the Spurs & Mavs met?

tee, hee.

C'mon, Cul. Exactly how is that relevant? The team is almost completely different this year.

I mean, I know that's one of your "catch phrases" on the board, but with the start of the new season, you might want to find a new one.

[antgomez2009]

Well i believe, Its going to come down to bench players. Parker is getting his way like Tommy Lee is with Pamela! Kobe is going to get his, but the spurs are able to at least, contest Kobe, not so much said against Parker! Gasol and Bynum, will even out, Tim, Blair, and McDyess! Artest is Artest, not really worried about him! The only player that concerns me is Klahmar Odashin!:married: However, thats it for the Lakers, they dont have a strong bench, they have a guy name Adam Morrison:lmao on their team, Even bonner is better then that dude :toast! The Second Team for the Spurs, Hill, Mason, Gino, Finely, Blair and McDyess/ Bonner / Ratliff (McDyess will fill the starter roll towards the end of the season, possibly sooner) is to much for the Laker Bench to handle, thus, Forcing Jackson to play his Starters to much, and not letting them get ample rest to finish out games! Bottom line SPURS are Deep like laker fans A@@ holes are right now, because they are going to have a much tougher time against this Spurs team then they ever had before!!!! anyways, Lakers are the team to beat, and until another team proves other wise, its the Laker team everyone is after!!:lobt: All that said, hope every team is healthy and ready to collide in the playoffs!

[cheguevara]

Lakers look good but how are they gonna stop the Spurs backcourt??

[Culburn369]

C'mon, Cul. Exactly how is that relevant? The team is almost completely different this year.

I mean, I know that's one of your "catch phrases" on the board, but with the start of the new season, you might want to find a new one.

Why should I grant grace on this ridiculous point/Mavs 4-1?

Everybody and their 8-year-old sister rode the [Kobe can't win one without Daddy] horse for three years without let up.

[j.dizzle]

hahahaha every fuckin thread on this board turns into like 78 arguments..i love this forum

[I. Hustle]

hahahaha every fuckin thread on this board turns into like 78 arguments..i love this forum

Shut your ass up, no it doesn't! Show me some kind of proof that it does. You can't, because it's not true!

[LakeShow]

It's funny how Spurs fans calls Lakers fans insecure. For me, this is the first time that I've seen the Spurs. Sure, i've read how they've improved and should give the Lakers a run for their money, so Instead of commenting on something I had no clue about, i wanted to see them first hand. I do believe they have improved, improved enough to beat the lakers, I dont think so. I see Boston as the only team that can match up to the Lakers front line that would give them a run for their money. No way the spurs stop the lakers front line with their frontline, with a bunch of scrubs and a rookie. It's not happening. The Spurs will have to make their 3's to beat the lakers and history tells me, if you live by the 3, you die by the 3.

[JustBlaze]

http://www.maxpreps.com/site_images/editorial/article/3/8/0/38006434-5261-de11-92c9-001cc494dda6/84a178c4-a161-de11-92c9-001cc494dda6_original.jpg
Never knew Duncan was capable of this much emotion. He looks mad, real mad, like he's about to choke a bitch forreal.:wow

[Spursmania]

How bout the last time the Spurs & Mavs met?

tee, hee.

I'm disappointed in your lack of new material. You and I both know the Mavs won't do diddily squat this year. They beat a lame team last year. Not even the Lakers could have survived Bryant on one leg and Pau out.

It's a new season, get with it old fart.:lol

[PDXSpursFan]

Our win last night wouldn't be complete without an insecure Laker fan thread.

LMAO. Exactly same thing I though when I saw this thread :toast

[Culburn369]

I'm disappointed in your lack of new material. You and I both know the Mavs won't do diddily squat this year. They beat a lame team last year. Not even the Lakers could have survived Bryant on one leg and Pau out.

It's a new season, get with it old fart.:lol

I know I should, but, you guys deserve to suffer thru horseshit teasing & tormenting over that Mavs event.

+ nothing else is handy. Maybe if that Blair fellow blows out one of his knees (hope hope), or Manu relapses I'll have fresh material. You guys are pretty steady year round. I just hope something breaks during the season and nullifies your campaign. I hate being insecure & worried.

[NBAfan83]

I'm disappointed in your lack of new material. You and I both know the Mavs won't do diddily squat this year. They beat a lame team last year. Not even the Lakers could have survived Bryant on one leg and Pau out.

It's a new season, get with it old fart.:lol

It's all he's got, think bout it...

in terms of laker fans ammunition, all they got is dick jefferson leaving his chick in the altar and the 4-1 by the mavs.

Spurs fans on the other hand have Kobe is a rapist, he's a jackass, Bynum is a bust, gasol collusion, Artest will blow up the team and is a nutcase, their bench sucks, Dfish is 400 years old, refs always help the lakers, kobe mailed it in vs the phx in that series, and blah blah blah, sure they've lost the kobe can't win a ring without shaq, but they have so so much ammunition against the lakers, whether they choose to stoop down to culburn's level, is a matter of choice...

so honestly, can't blame culby for posting the same thing over and over again, since he ain't got that much ammo vs spurs, if your pissed at him, just fire back with a kobe is a rapist post or any of the other million of post possible, even Kobe will never be MJ would suffice.

[Culburn369]

It's all he's got, think bout it...

in terms of laker fans ammunition, all they got is dick jefferson leaving his chick in the altar and the 4-1 by the mavs.

Spurs fans on the other hand have Kobe is a rapist, he's a jackass, Bynum is a bust, gasol collusion, Artest will blow up the team and is a nutcase, their bench sucks, Dfish is 400 years old, refs always help the lakers, kobe mailed it in vs the phx in that series, and blah blah blah, sure they've lost the kobe can't win a ring without shaq, but they have so so much ammunition against the lakers, whether they choose to stoop down to culburn's level, is a matter of choice...

so honestly, can't blame culby for posting the same thing over and over again, since he ain't got that much ammo vs spurs, if your pissed at him, just fire back with a kobe is a rapist post or any of the other million of post possible, even Kobe will never be MJ would suffice.

I never denied Kobe's culpability in the rape event. It's legit.

Front & center I've never denied Kobe is a jackass.

Front & center I've never denied Kobe quit in the Phoenix series. I've eaten shit on that point on this Forum continuously.

The rest of your stuff is silly.

I take my Lakers hits. No problem.

[NBAfan83]

I never denied Kobe's culpability in the rape event. It's legit.

Front & center I've never denied Kobe is a jackass.

Front & center I've never denied Kobe quit in the Phoenix series. I've eaten shit on that point on this Forum continuously.

The rest of your stuff is silly.

I take my Lakers hits. No problem.

Don't be defensive as I am saying that spurs fans, if they wanted to browbeat laker fans as yourself, can use any of those, and there are still laker fans in denial with those accusations.

Silly or not, it does get mentioned in penis measurement threads.

For me it's all in good fun, and mindless banter anyway, hard to take anything written on spurstalk seriously anyway, and for me your stating a fact that the spurs were 4-1'd by the mavs which is true.

I think the annoyance from spurs poster in the 4-1 topic stems from the fact that they feel confined in the sense that they CANNOT do anything to change that fact or even refute it because it did happen. Also they are in no position to prove everyone wrong by beating the mavs 4-1, because they are not playing for the spurs, thus are incapable of proving their worth other than spouting mockeries of the other franchises, specially Oden and the lakers.

[Culburn369]

For me it's all in good fun

Exactly.

I get carried away at times, like most of us here. I'm overly dramatic & quite full of shit, but, talking NBA on this Forum is a lot of fun.

[NBAfan83]

Exactly.

I get carried away at times, like most of us here. I'm overly dramatic & quite full of shit, but, talking NBA on this Forum is a lot of fun.

That's why at times I feel a Basketball Fan is far superior to a Team fan, just because they are able to see both sides of the situation and come up with logic arguments, rather than stating facts over and over again to gain any kind of advantage.

Hey culby you need to be who you are, or you will lose your personality and get lost in the sea of posters out there. It's your stamp to get noticed and that's fine. Also internet forums are where people go to to let out their "Wild side" per say, i'm betting more than half the posters here, don't act or talk they way they post, it's their E-thug, E-asshole, E-whatever personas.

[Spursmania]

I know I should, but, you guys deserve to suffer thru horseshit teasing & tormenting over that Mavs event.

+ nothing else is handy. Maybe if that Blair fellow blows out one of his knees (hope hope), or Manu relapses I'll have fresh material. You guys are pretty steady year round. I just hope something breaks during the season and nullifies your campaign. I hate being insecure & worried.

Touche':toast

By the way, even though we sucked tonight, it was damn nice to see Timmy bringing it. Also, I feel pretty confident Pop will get them back on track. But boy, we stank up the place. Pretty embarassing...:lol

[Capt Bringdown]

If Bynum is able to develop and stay healthy, there's no way the Spurs can handle the Lakers. I think even without Bynum, the Spurs would have their hands full with Gasol and Odom. Take away Odom and Gasol is also a tough matchup for the Spurs.

[redzero]

Looks like Joakim Noah was too much for San Antonio.

[DPG21920]

Looks like Joakim Noah was too much for San Antonio.

How can you even post when your team looks the worst so far?

[redzero]

How can you even post when your team looks the worst so far?

It's just the first game of the season. I'm just observing the fact that the Spurs didn't play well against a big who wasn't Hilton Armstrong. They are lucky that the Bulls didn't hit their shots, because this would have been a blowout.