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Shank
10-29-2009, 09:43 PM
Too old for back-to-backs.

Rose > Parker

lol Blair
lol jumpshots
lol 3pt %
lol dick jefferson

Banzai
10-29-2009, 09:47 PM
Spurs had an off night..shit happens.

milkshakeballa
10-29-2009, 09:48 PM
Spurs didn't have an offnight....Bulls are just GOOD...they going win 50+ games health permitting

djohn2oo8
10-29-2009, 09:49 PM
non-issue

picc84
10-29-2009, 09:49 PM
All this game told me is that Celtics/Hornets over the weekend is going to be brutal.

KSeal
10-29-2009, 09:50 PM
I thought the Spurs didn't have to play anyone over 25 minutes cause they're just so amazingly deep. What happened?

Agloco
10-29-2009, 09:50 PM
Spurs didn't have an offnight....Bulls are just GOOD...they going win 50+ games health permitting

32% shooting in the second half. Won't win many games.

Culburn369
10-29-2009, 09:52 PM
A lot of bending over & reaching by the Spurs.

& Finley should be on the end of a bench along with Bonner.

cornbread
10-29-2009, 09:52 PM
Spurs had an off night..shit happens.

Don't rain on MFFL's parade.

Spursmania
10-29-2009, 10:02 PM
A lot of bending over & reaching by the Spurs.

& Finley should be on the end of a bench along with Bonner.


If only Pop can mend his stubborn ways.:bang

Brazil
10-29-2009, 10:03 PM
tonite spurs sucked but you have to give some props to the bulls great ball movement and defense

ezau
10-29-2009, 10:06 PM
Bonner and Finley don't have any business on the court anymore

mytespurs
10-29-2009, 10:07 PM
what is LOL! is people making a big deal about a loss 2 games into the season regardless of the team!

Spursmania
10-29-2009, 10:11 PM
what is LOL! is people making a big deal about a loss 2 games into the season regardless of the team!

Lol=lots of laughs:lol

Also, you have to understand the insecurity of Mav fans. They will take any opportunity to rag as hard as they can on us, since they know the Spurs have what they so desperately want but have never been good enough to get.:lol

DeadlyDynasty
10-29-2009, 10:15 PM
Spurs did have a horrendous shooting night (save for Tim who looked great), but what was most alarming was the undersized Joakim Noah dominating the offensive boards against a deep San Antonio frontcourt...rebounding isn't really an "off-night" facet of the game. Pop was reaming the team after the first quarter about it and nothing really changed for the remaining 36 minutes

badfish22
10-29-2009, 10:17 PM
God I was really hoping someone didn't make this thread. Especially a Mav fan.

Kobe™
10-29-2009, 10:21 PM
Noone stoppin us.

redzero
10-29-2009, 10:22 PM
Marvelous.

Spursmania
10-29-2009, 10:23 PM
I thought the Spurs didn't have to play anyone over 25 minutes cause they're just so amazingly deep. What happened?

We plain sucked balls tonight. :lol
Except for Timmy the great.

milkshakeballa
10-29-2009, 10:24 PM
bulls are fucking good

Agloco
10-29-2009, 10:28 PM
Spurs did have a horrendous shooting night (save for Tim who looked great), but what was most alarming was the undersized Joakim Noah dominating the offensive boards against a deep San Antonio frontcourt...rebounding isn't really an "off-night" facet of the game. Pop was reaming the team after the first quarter about it and nothing really changed for the remaining 36 minutes

Yeah. If I'm Pop I'm more concerned about the lack of defensive rebounding than anything. Bad shooting happens from time to time, especially on BTB's but the rebounding was a problem last year which we specifically addressed during the offseason........supposedly.

DeadlyDynasty
10-29-2009, 10:29 PM
bulls are fucking good

I thought they would drop w/o Gordon but they look like they didn't miss a beat. Holy shit do they play uptempo!

DeadlyDynasty
10-29-2009, 10:34 PM
Yeah. If I'm Pop I'm more concerned about the lack of defensive rebounding than anything. Bad shooting happens from time to time, especially on BTB's but the rebounding was a problem last year which we specifically addressed during the offseason........supposedly.

Not to beat a dead horse, but Bonner just kills that starting line-up. You just can't have him at the 4 or 5 when you already have rebounding issues. Give McDyess those minutes and you'll see those problems dissipate

LOL
10-29-2009, 10:36 PM
LOL spurs got their dumbasses handed to them, off night my ass.

spursfan09
10-29-2009, 10:44 PM
lol no back to backs in the playoffs

milkshakeballa
10-29-2009, 10:45 PM
I thought they would drop w/o Gordon but they look like they didn't miss a beat. Holy shit do they play uptempo!

They didn't even have Deng Llast year!!! its like everyone forgot about him. Rose is a top 5 PG...filthy. Heinrich and Miller off the bench. Gibson off the bench has a HUGE motor. Noah....hate him all you want (I DO) is a good defensive player and GREAT rebounder. Thomas has REALLY improved his jumper. They have a lot of talent.

Agloco
10-29-2009, 10:49 PM
They didn't even have Deng Llast year!!! its like everyone forgot about him. Rose is a top 5 PG...filthy. Heinrich and Miller off the bench. Gibson off the bench has a HUGE motor. Noah....hate him all you want (I DO) is a good defensive player and GREAT rebounder. Thomas has REALLY improved his jumper. They have a lot of talent.

Easy there Rumpshakerballa.

milkshakeballa
10-29-2009, 10:50 PM
Easy there Rumpshakerballa.

lol @ name

them and the wizards tho..goin battle it out for 4/5 spots...both will have better records than ATL...as long as they stay healthy..

Findog
10-29-2009, 10:51 PM
Spurs had an off night..shit happens.

Yeah, smart fans realize that. This is aimed at Spurfan dipshit that starts a lol Mavs thread the 25-30 times a year we* lose a game.


* Yeah, I used the word "we" when referring to the Mavs. No, I don't play for the team or work in the front office. Fucking deal with it.

Agloco
10-29-2009, 10:54 PM
lol @ name

them and the wizards tho..goin battle it out for 4/5 spots...both will have better records than ATL...as long as they stay healthy..

Yeah I don't doubt they will be in the mix, I'm just not ready to say Rose is a Top 5 PG yet. I'll give you Top 10 tho.

Findog
10-29-2009, 10:59 PM
Yeah I don't doubt they will be in the mix, I'm just not ready to say Rose is a Top 5 PG yet. I'll give you Top 10 tho.

There's CP3 and Deron. Who are these other 3 guys that supplant Rose in the top 5?

milkshakeballa
10-29-2009, 11:04 PM
Yeah I don't doubt they will be in the mix, I'm just not ready to say Rose is a Top 5 PG yet. I'll give you Top 10 tho.

CP3
Deron

TP?
Arenas?
Harris?
Rondo?
Nash?
Billups?

Who else is better. TP you cna def. make a case for. Arenas WHEN healthy you can make a case for. None of the other guys you can this year. Rose is RIGHT there without a doubt....and ONLY going to get better.

DeadlyDynasty
10-29-2009, 11:05 PM
CP3
Deron

TP?
Arenas?
Harris?
Rondo?
Nash?
Billups?

Who else is better. TP you cna def. make a case for. Arenas WHEN healthy you can make a case for. None of the other guys you can this year. Rose is RIGHT there without a doubt....and ONLY going to get better.
Rondo..he's the best defensive PG in the game

badfish22
10-29-2009, 11:07 PM
Id easily put Rose in top 5.
CP3
Deron
Billups
TP
Rose

Arenas has gotta show me he can kill someone other than a 3'6 JJ Barea, and stay healthy. He could move up to 3.

milkshakeballa
10-29-2009, 11:09 PM
Rondo better than Rose?!?! We will agree to disagree! And Rose is NO SLOUCH on D...

No way Billups is above Rose this year IMO. He has slowed down the past year and a half. Still clutch but Rose is bbetter IMO. TP I think I would take over Rose this year as well.

milkshakeballa
10-29-2009, 11:09 PM
Rondo better than Rose?!?! We will agree to disagree! And Rose is NO SLOUCH on D...

No way Billups is above Rose this year IMO. He has slowed down the past year and a half. Still clutch but Rose is bbetter IMO. TP I think I would take over Rose this year as well. That's about i

Findog
10-29-2009, 11:11 PM
Rose is not quite there yet but barring injuries he will be just as good as CP3 and Deron. He is a budding franchise player. You can't say that about Rondo or TP. They aren't and never will be franchise players.

Danny.Zhu
10-29-2009, 11:13 PM
Rose is not quite there yet but barring injuries he will be just as good as CP3 and Deron. He is a budding franchise player. You can't say that about Rondo or TP. They aren't and never will be franchise players.

Yeah right, Final MVP doesn't count.

BlackSwordsMan
10-29-2009, 11:14 PM
spurs :lol:lol:lol:lmao:lmao:lmao:rollin:rollin:rollin

BlackSwordsMan
10-29-2009, 11:15 PM
lol tony longoria where were you tonight?

Findog
10-29-2009, 11:16 PM
Yeah right, Final MVP doesn't count.

No, it doesn't. He's never been the best player on a team that won a championship, and he never will be. Ask the Cavs who they were worried about most in that series. It wasn't Parker.

All Star? Most definitely yes.

Franchise player? Most definitely not.

The last team to have two franchise players were the Lakers, circa 1997-2004.

AussieFanKurt
10-29-2009, 11:36 PM
not even worried

Trainwreck2100
10-29-2009, 11:59 PM
No, it doesn't. He's never been the best player on a team that won a championship, and he never will be. Ask the Cavs who they were worried about most in that series. It wasn't Parker.

All Star? Most definitely yes.

Franchise player? Most definitely not.

The last team to have two franchise players were the Lakers, circa 1997-2004.

I hated that Parker got that Finals MVP because Mike Brown decided to be an idiot and never drop his gameplan of letting Parker beat them and zoning in on Duncan.

Duncan2177
10-30-2009, 12:07 AM
what is LOL! is people making a big deal about a loss 2 games into the season regardless of the team!

:tu

Obstructed_View
10-30-2009, 12:16 AM
Spurs didn't have an offnight....Bulls are just GOOD...they going win 50+ games health permitting

The Bulls defense is really good, which says good things about Timmy since he played well. The Spurs deserved to get their asses handed to them tonight. They were probably reading all about how great they were instead of resting up for the Bulls.

Baseline
10-30-2009, 12:27 AM
A. The Bulls didn't miss any shots. They drained jumpers all night - even Tyrus thomas was hitting jump shots. Read that again...Tyrus Thomas was hitting jump shots. So you know it's Chicago's night.

B. The young Bulls played like they all had five bumps of speed before the tip-off. Somehow they were able to maintain control at that pace. It didn't hurt that Pop played the two slowest players in the NBA for almost 30 minutes each -- Bonner and Finley.

C. The Spurs see all kinds of young teams give them their best shot an play over their heads, so this is nothing new.

D. Pop always waves the white flag on back to backs. I hate it, but he's always been that way.

badfish22
10-30-2009, 12:32 AM
A. The Bulls didn't miss any shots. They drained jumpers all night - even Tyrus thomas was hitting jump shots. Read that again...Tyrus Thomas was hitting jump shots. So you know it's Chicago's night.



Sounds a lot like us against Washington exept it was:

The Wizards didn't miss any shots. They drained jumpers all night - even Andre Blatche was hitting jump shots. Read that again...Andre Blatche was hitting jump shots. So you know it's Washingtons night.

So I have sympathy.

mystargtr34
10-30-2009, 12:38 AM
Not to beat a dead horse, but Bonner just kills that starting line-up. You just can't have him at the 4 or 5 when you already have rebounding issues. Give McDyess those minutes and you'll see those problems dissipate

Yep... your right. As long as Matt Bonner and Michael Finley are starting and playing 25+ minutes, then i honesty cant expect much more than a 55 win pace, and second round, MAYBE WCF playoff exit at the most - its as simple as that. No team is going to win a championship having two guys like that playing a role where the team relies on your production to win a game.

Spurs just flat out sucked tonight... they made the Mavs look like the Celtics with their effort and desire.

redzero
10-30-2009, 12:50 AM
A. The Bulls didn't miss any shots. They drained jumpers all night - even Tyrus thomas was hitting jump shots. Read that again...Tyrus Thomas was hitting jump shots. So you know it's Chicago's night.

Yeah, the Bulls were scorching with there 41% shooting, and their 3 of 16 from down town.

mystargtr34
10-30-2009, 12:55 AM
Rose is not quite there yet but barring injuries he will be just as good as CP3 and Deron. He is a budding franchise player. You can't say that about Rondo or TP. They aren't and never will be franchise players.

I agree with you somewhat, but you cant compare Rondo and Parker - TP is by far the superior player.

To me, Rose is more Parker than CP3 or Williams. His game will always be more about scoring than it will be about assisting and playmaking, which might make it a little more difficult for him to be that CP3 or Williams type franchise guy who you build a team around. Gilbert Arenas is another guy that comes to mind when i think of D-Rose.

To me, i rate Parker just behind Deron, but only ever so slightly - mainly because I think you can probably build your team around Deron a little bit easier given his style of play, so i guess that makes him slightly more franchisish. And CP3 is a clear number 1 for me...

Its kind of like the Duncan - Dirk comparison, if you take defense out of the equation. Dirk is the better offensive player/scorer, much like Parker is compared to Deron, but Duncan's style of game is much easier to build your team around...

So i agree with what you said, excect that you dont give Parker anywhere near enough credit for the player that he is. He is the clear cut number 3 PG in the league for me, and still a superior player to Rose (for the time being).

Sense
10-30-2009, 02:34 AM
This game could've been a blowout in the first half...

You want to know what killed the Spurs?

Second chance points by the bulls....

I couldn't believe how many offensive rebounds they got.

Axl Van Dam
10-30-2009, 06:04 AM
A lot of bending over & reaching by the Spurs.

& Finley should be on the end of a bench along with Bonner.

:wakeup I definitely agree with this one. :wakeup

Axl Van Dam
10-30-2009, 06:09 AM
QUOTE=Shank;3784964]Too old for back-to-backs.

Rose > Parker

lol Blair
lol jumpshots
lol 3pt %
lol dick jefferson[/QUOTE]

:lol at Dallas for losing to the Wizards :lol

Brazil
10-30-2009, 06:28 AM
We sucked !

robot89
10-30-2009, 06:33 AM
Too old for back-to-backs.

Rose > Parker

lol Blair
lol jumpshots
lol 3pt %
lol dick jefferson


lol dumb fuck you dont go 82 and 0

we still need to mesh.god some people are.....never mind:flag:

TheManFromAcme
10-30-2009, 07:16 AM
.....although I will admit Timmy looked awfully good last night. Reminded me of a Timmy circa 2003:wow

21_Blessings
10-30-2009, 08:32 AM
.....although I will admit Timmy looked awfully good last night. Reminded me of a Timmy circa 2003:wow

But the game before that he reminded us of Timmy circa 2009. 2003 Timmy wouldn't have lost that game against the Bulls.

Spurs are going nowhere in the West.

pauls931
10-30-2009, 08:41 AM
But the game before that he reminded us of Timmy circa 2009. 2003 Timmy wouldn't have lost that game against the Bulls.

Spurs are going nowhere in the West.

I think the western standings are like this.

#1 Lakers
#2 Lakers
#3 Lakers
#4 Spurs
#5 Nuggets
#6 Who cares
#7 Who cares
#8 Balzers

Findog
10-30-2009, 08:42 AM
I agree with you somewhat, but you cant compare Rondo and Parker - TP is by far the superior player.


I agree. Truth be told, I think Rondo is overrated. We wouldn't be near as impressed with him if he didn't have all that talent around him and played for the Timberwolves or Pacers.

21_Blessings
10-30-2009, 08:49 AM
Rondo is overrated but his defense is worlds better than Parker's. Hard to call TP "by far the superior player" when he's only better on one side of the ball.

lefty
10-30-2009, 08:50 AM
I thought the Spurs didn't have to play anyone over 25 minutes cause they're just so amazingly deep. What happened?
Yeah, lile a lot of teams win their 2nd games of B2B's :rolleyes

21_Blessings
10-30-2009, 08:52 AM
Yeah, lile a lot of teams win their 2nd games of B2B's :rolleyes

Lakers did last year.

lefty
10-30-2009, 08:54 AM
Lakers did last year.
Congrats

Culburn369
10-30-2009, 09:29 AM
Duncan made some sweet bank shots from 18 feet, but, what else did he do? And somebody needs to tell Methuselah it's not against the rules to move on defense.

hater
10-30-2009, 09:44 AM
Spurs are going nowhere in the West.

thanks for your tremendous conclusion after 2 games. you saved me a lot of game watching.

hater
10-30-2009, 09:45 AM
Rondo is overrated but his defense is worlds better than Parker's. Hard to call TP "by far the superior player" when he's only better on one side of the ball.

true. But we have George hill who's D is not as good as Rondo yet but very very close.

Culburn369
10-30-2009, 09:47 AM
true. But we have George hill who's D is not as good as Rondo yet but very very close.

Yes, I've heard those talking points & marching orders early & often.

hater
10-30-2009, 09:49 AM
Yes, I've heard those talking points & marching orders early & often.

yup. so in other words betwen Hill + Parker we are better at PG than both the Celtics + Fakers.

Culburn369
10-30-2009, 09:51 AM
yup. so in other words betwen Hill + Parker we are better at PG than both the Celtics + Fakers.

The Fakers, yes, but, Rondo is the goods.

Spursfan092120
10-30-2009, 10:13 AM
Spurs had an off night..shit happens.


Bulls are just GOOD...they going win 50+ games health permitting
both of these

Spursfan092120
10-30-2009, 10:30 AM
Rondo is overrated but his defense is worlds better than Parker's. Hard to call TP "by far the superior player" when he's only better on one side of the ball.
I'm curious...are you more of a Lakers fan, or a Spurs hater?

Agloco
10-30-2009, 10:40 AM
But the game before that he reminded us of Timmy circa 2009. 2003 Timmy wouldn't have lost that game against the Bulls.

Spurs are going nowhere in the West.

And he didn't lose this game either numbnuts. That would be courtesy of his teammates shooting 30%.

in2deep
10-30-2009, 10:59 AM
Timmy wouldn't have lost that game against the Bulls.

Timmy had 28pts 16rbs dummy

Mike D
10-30-2009, 01:10 PM
Timmy was beast.

Rest of the team struggles. Expected early? Yea. Pop doesn't play his guys too much in preseason, their conditioning and continuity will improve.

Overreaction thread is overreacting.

21_Blessings
10-30-2009, 01:11 PM
true. But we have George hill who's D is not as good as Rondo yet but very very close.

:lol no it isn't.

21_Blessings
10-30-2009, 01:11 PM
Timmy had 28pts 16rbs dummy

I said 2003 Timmy dummy.

Kool Bob Love
10-30-2009, 01:14 PM
LOL No Rings!!!:lol:lol:lol:lol
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