Celtics give Rondo $55 million extension

[Spurs Brazil]

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Celtics give Rondo $55 million extension

By Marc J. Spears, Yahoo! Sports
7 hours, 19 minutes ago

Buzz up! PrintThe Boston Celtics and Rajon Rondo(notes) have reached an agreement in principle on a contract extension, Rondo’s agent, Bill Duffy, said early Monday.

League sources said the extension is for five years and guarantees Rondo at least $55 million. With the two sides facing a Monday deadline to get a deal done, Duffy said he called Celtics president Danny Ainge on Sunday to inform him Rondo was prepared to play out his contract and become a restricted free agent next summer because they weren’t satisfied with the team’s previous offers. Ainge, however, surprised Duffy by responding that Rondo’s contract hopes would be met.

“As much as we were willing to wait his contract out, the Celtics stepped up to the plate to meet the original request,” Duffy said by phone. “This is a really fair contract. We wanted him to be paid like one of the top five point guards around. It also allows the Celtics to maintain continuity to continue to be one of the best teams at this time.”

Rondo, 23, averaged 11.9 points, 8.2 assists and 5.2 rebounds for the Celtics last season, and had a terrific playoff run. He was drafted by the Phoenix Suns with the 21st pick in the 2006 draft before his rights were traded to Boston.

Had the Celtics not extended Rondo’s contract, he likely would have become the top point guard in a heralded free-agent class next summer that will include LeBron James(notes), Dwyane Wade(notes) and Chris Bosh(notes). Because Rondo would have been a restricted free agent, the Celtics would have had the right to match any offer sheet he signed with another team.

With the Celtics’ four other marquee players all in their 30s – Paul Pierce(notes) (32), Kevin Garnett(notes) (33), Ray Allen(notes) (34) and Rasheed Wallace(notes) (35) – Rondo’s extension makes him an important piece of the franchise’s future.

Rondo’s new deal averages $11 million a season, the same amount San Antonio Spurs All-Star point guard Tony Parker(notes) earned when he signed a six-year, $66 million extension to his rookie contract in 2004. Among members of Rondo’s 2006 rookie class, Portland Trail Blazers All-Star guard Brandon Roy(notes) received a five-year, $80 million contract extension. The Blazers also gave forward LaMarcus Aldridge(notes) a five-year, $65 million extension.

“This is unbelievable for a kid that was taken far down in the draft,” Duffy said of Rondo, who was picked 21st overall in the 2006 draft. “But we’ve said that it’s not where you’re drafted, but where you are selected. He ended up being in the perfect situation.”

The Celtics expressed disappointment in Rondo’s maturity over the summer, and even raised his name in trade talks. Since training camp, however, team officials have said nothing but positive things about Rondo’s progress.

“The relationship between Rajon and the Celtics is on the highest level on and off the court,” Duffy said. “It’s a strong bond right now. Any concerns they had relative to this approach are no longer.”

[Allanon]

Celtics will be in rebuild mode in 2012, good luck with building around Rondo. :lol

[Spurs Brazil]

Overpaid big time

[anakha]

Without taking into consideration the cap status of the Celtics, that contract seems a bit high but still somewhat acceptable, considering how much PGs like Parker and Billups make relative to their on-court production.

But when you factor in the rest of the Celtics' contracts? Yeah, Allanon is probably right.

[noob cake]

9.6 PPG. I don't care about his assist numbers; they are meaningless.

All he does is dribble and pass to one of the three future HOFer; under NBA's loose assist keeping, he gets an assist.

[JamStone]

Might be a little high, but probably worth it to keep him from free agency. It's not way overpaid by NBA standards but it's still a small fortune. And you don't build around a $11 million player. As much money as that is, that's still complementary player money, not franchise money. It's like Lamar Odom or Ginobili money, a very important, key player but not the player you build the team around.

[ElNono]

When a middle-of-the-road player like Peja gets $60 million, you can justify anything...

[Allanon]

Might be a little high, but probably worth it to keep him from free agency. It's not way overpaid by NBA standards but it's still a small fortune. And you don't build around a $11 million player. As much money as that is, that's still complementary player money, not franchise money. It's like Lamar Odom or Ginobili money, a very important, key player but not the player you build the team around.

$11 million is very high for a 4th year player. He will be the highest paid Celtic in 2012...it seems this is the young player they will be banking on for the next 5 years.

The Celtics have nobody else to build around in 2012 other than Rondo.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

That price seems about right for a guy that can be a huge x-factor in winning a championship in the next two years, but the length of it seems excessive. As others have pointed out that contract means that when it comes time to rebuild Rondo will have to be not just a part that team but a central part. If he can find a reliable jumper in the mean time he may prove worth the price tag.

[InRareForm]

Makes it look like a deal when compared to Alridge.

[thispego]

Good deal. Rondo is legit

[mogrovejo]

Fair deal. The same deal Parker got after his rookie contract.

[JamStone]

$11 million is very high for a 4th year player. He will be the highest paid Celtic in 2012...it seems this is the young player they will be banking on for the next 5 years.

The Celtics have nobody else to build around in 2012 other than Rondo.

But they won't be rebuilding around Rondo after Pierce and KG are done. They'll go after another superstar to be the foundation for their next era of Celtics basketball. Whether it means they'll continue to be contenders is another issue. But they aren't building around Rondo.

That's like saying when Magic and Worthy were done, the Lakers began building around Sedale Threat and Elden Campbell since they were the highest paid players left. But of course that's not what happened. They went out and got Shaq and Kobe.

[Muser]

Sounds right.

[iilluzioN]

Rondo is a legit PG

[mogrovejo]

$11 million is very high for a 4th year player.

He won't be paid anywhere near $11 millions in his 4th year.

[Allanon]

But they won't be rebuilding around Rondo after Pierce and KG are done. They'll go after another superstar to be the foundation for their next era of Celtics basketball. Whether it means they'll continue to be contenders is another issue. But they aren't building around Rondo.

I'll believe it when I see it. All the young superstars are getting re-signed this summer.



That's like saying when Magic and Worthy were done, the Lakers began building around Sedale Threat and Elden Campbell since they were the highest paid players left. But of course that's not what happened. They went out and got Shaq and Kobe.

5 years into irrelevancy. That's why I said "good luck".

[IronMexican]

Sounds good.

[JamStone]

I'll believe it when I see it. All the young superstars are getting re-signed this summer.



5 years into irrelevancy. That's why I said "good luck".

Teams can acquire franchise type players via trade and the draft as well.

Magic's salary was on the Lakers payroll thru the 1994-95 season, and Worthy's thru the 1995-96 season. Coincidentally, Lakers signed Shaq as a free agent and traded for the rights to Kobe in the summer of 1996.

I didn't suggest the Celtics would be able to contend once Pierce and KG are gone. I merely refuted the notion that they'd build around Rondo when that happens.

[ginobili's bald spot]

Nothing wrong with that contract. Solid signing for the Celtics.

[TDMVPDPOY]

sounds good to me,

his what 23?? theres still plenty of room to improved his game....

his situation is like parker, put on the starting position when they were nobodys...

what will be parkers asking price after next season

[Allanon]

Teams can acquire franchise type players via trade and the draft as well.

In the old days that happened; and even then it was very rare. These days, franchise players aren't traded unless they're failures. This is quite a long shot. I'm guessing they become the 90's Celtics again until they get lucky in the draft.



Magic's salary was on the Lakers payroll thru the 1994-95 season, and Worthy's thru the 1995-96 season. Coincidentally, Lakers signed Shaq as a free agent and traded for the rights to Kobe in the summer of 1996.

That is correct. But this was 5 years into the Lakers being irrelevant. This is the period they've signed Rondo for; the irrelevant years. And whether or not he's paid as a Superstar, he's going to be leading the Celtics. Then we'll see if Rondo's worth that $11 million.

At $11 million, he's getting paid Tony Parker, Manu money and I think he's way behind them.



I didn't suggest the Celtics would be able to contend once Pierce and KG are gone. I merely refuted the notion that they'd build around Rondo when that happens.

Rondo, Perkins, those guys are in their young core. I can't see them picking up any superstars as there are very few and they're getting picked up this summer.

Of course, this is all guessing we'll know in a couple of years if they can pick up any Superstars.

[myhc]

what will be parkers asking price after next season

now that's a good question.

[JamStone]

KG's contract expires after 2011-12. The "possible" free agents that summer include Carmelo, Dwight Howard, Kevin Durant. Now obviously I'd expect their current teams to try to get them to sign extensions, but you never know. It's quite a few years from then and anything can happen. When it comes to franchises like the Celtics and the Lakers, fortuitous things happen like getting KG or Gasol rather easily. With the amount of cap space they'd have, it's absolutely conceivable a superstar who's frustrated with his current team could bail and go to Boston. And again, trades can happen or getting a franchise type player thru the draft can happen. But Boston won't be building around Rondo as their next franchise player.

The point with Magic's and Worthy's contracts is to show that financially the Celts can make moves once Pierce and KG are off the books, as West waited for there was room to make moves financially to acquire a franchise player.

Again, I'm not saying Boston will remain contenders. I'm saying if they are able to, it won't be by them building around Rondo and Perkins as the franchise pieces.

[lefty]

Damn.

Locker room security must cost a lot of $$$

[Allanon]

KG's contract expires after 2011-12. The "possible" free agents that summer include Carmelo, Dwight Howard, Kevin Durant. Now obviously I'd expect their current teams to try to get them to sign extensions, but you never know. It's quite a few years from then and anything can happen. When it comes to franchises like the Celtics and the Lakers, fortuitous things happen like getting KG or Gasol rather easily. With the amount of cap space they'd have, it's absolutely conceivable a superstar who's frustrated with his current team could bail and go to Boston. And again, trades can happen or getting a franchise type player thru the draft can happen. But Boston won't be building around Rondo as their next franchise player.

The point with Magic's and Worthy's contracts is to show that financially the Celts can make moves once Pierce and KG are off the books, as West waited for there was room to make moves financially to acquire a franchise player.

Again, I'm not saying Boston will remain contenders. I'm saying if they are able to, it won't be by them building around Rondo and Perkins as the franchise pieces.

I find it highly unlikely. This overpaid signing tells me they're bracing for the rebuilding years.

I suppose we'll find out in 3 years.

[mogrovejo]

According to Allanon, the Celtics should let Rondo walk for nothing because they can't be sure they'll be contenders after the big 3 leave.

This easily makes the list of the stupidest reasonings ever expressed, but no surprise considering the author.

[JamStone]

So you honestly and sincerely think Ainge and the rest of the Boston front office feel Rondo is "the guy" they'll be building and/or rebuilding around once Pierce and KG are gone?

[lefty]

According to Allanon, the Celtics should let Rondo walk for nothing because they can't be sure they'll be contenders after the big 3 leave.

This easily makes the list of the stupidest reasonings ever expressed, but no surprise considering the author.
Actually, Allanon has a good point

Rondo is good, but not great.

After KG-PP-RA retire, they will need a lot of $$$ to attract big names

[Allanon]

According to Allanon, the Celtics should let Rondo walk for nothing because they can't be sure they'll be contenders after the big 3 leave.

This easily makes the list of the stupidest reasonings ever expressed, but no surprise considering the author.

When did I say this?

Please keep the stupidity coming from your mouth not mines.

My point is the Celtics are going into rebuilding mode with an overpaid signing.

[mogrovejo]

If Rondo was a guy to build around, he'd get a similar contract to the one Brandon Roy got. Or, at least, a LMAldridge type of contract. Or, at the very least, an Andrea Bargnani contract. Just to name guys from his rookie class that got bigger contracts. This is a very moveable contract.

[Allanon]

So you honestly and sincerely think Ainge and the rest of the Boston front office feel Rondo is "the guy" they'll be building and/or rebuilding around once Pierce and KG are gone?

Rondo is the guy they're sticking with after Pierce and KG are gone. This is their young core going into mediocrity.

[mogrovejo]

When did I say this?

By saying the Celtics should not give him this extension. Do you think he'll get less than this in the market?

Overpaid? Yeah, you're one of the "he's only good because he's a great supporting cast" retards?

[Allanon]

This is a very moveable contract.

Very moveable to a team looking for a PG that can defend but can't shoot.

[#1 Timmys Fan]

According to Allanon, the Celtics should let Rondo walk for nothing because they can't be sure they'll be contenders after the big 3 leave.

This easily makes the list of the stupidest reasonings ever expressed, but no surprise considering the author.


If you want to know truths and wisdom, just do the opposite of what allanon says.

[JamStone]

Rondo is the guy they're sticking with after Pierce and KG are gone. This is their young core going into mediocrity.

That doesn't answer my question. Once Pierce, KG, and Allen are gone, do you think Boston won't go after superstars to replace them? Superstars who are better than Rondo? You think they'll make it Rondo's team, as in he's the franchise player, the best player on the team? Is that what you believe?

[boston.balla]

ha .. that's excellent, nice contract for rebuild stage for a guy who fills the stat sheet and who may even get a jumper. Super tradeble after to the likes of grizz... danny knows what he is doing.

[Allanon]

By saying the Celtics should not give him this extension. Do you think he'll get less than this in the market?

Yes, he was definitely overpaid.



Overpaid? Yeah, you're one of the "he's only good because he's a great supporting cast" retards?

Absolutely. Once KG, Pierce and Ray Allen are gone, you'll realize how overpaid he really is.

[Allanon]

That doesn't answer my question. Once Pierce, KG, and Allen are gone, do you think Boston won't go after superstars to replace them? Superstars who are better than Rondo? You think they'll make it Rondo's team, as in he's the franchise player, the best player on the team? Is that what you believe?

Yes, I believe Rondo will be the best player on that team once KG/Pierce/Allen are gone.

[Allanon]

If you want to know truths and wisdom, just do the opposite of what allanon says.

Good to see you've signed into your troll account. :lol

[JamStone]

LOL still doesn't answer my question. So Ainge won't "try" to get any superstar players once Pierce, KG, and Allen are gone. He and the Celtics front office will be content with Rondo being the franchise player? They won't even "try" getting players better than Rondo? Not whether they'll be able to, but will they try?

[Allanon]

LOL still doesn't answer my question. So Ainge won't "try" to get any superstar players once Pierce, KG, and Allen are gone. He and the Celtics front office will be content with Rondo being the franchise player? They won't even "try" getting players better than Rondo? Not whether they'll be able to, but will they try?

I'm sure they'll try. But they won't get.

[JamStone]

Thank you for finally admitting that what you initially opined was inaccurate...

[Allanon]

Thank you for finally admitting that what you initially opined was inaccurate...

Where was it inaccurate? Please quote.



Celtics will be in rebuild mode in 2012, good luck with building around Rondo. :lol

[boston.balla]

I'm sure they'll try. But they won't get.

C'mon, we both know there are ALWAYS going to be teams that fuck up badly like the clips, griz, bucks who would see rondo's stats padding as the best thing possible and will give trades like oj mayo for rondo or blake griffin for rondo.

Let's face, when entities fuck up usually that means that they respect a mathematical rule. There will always be teams desperate or dumb enough to pull the trigger on idiot trades.

Plus there will ALWAYS be discontent superstars (cp3 anyone? griffin if he survives the clippers) who will WANT out. Want out to teams with a name where they know other people will come. Teams like celtics and lakers.

[JamStone]

That they'd be banking on Rondo and the suggestion that they wouldn't have anyone else to build around as if they wouldn't even try to get anyone else to replace Pierce, KG, and Allen. That's what I've been asking this whole time. Not whether they'd be able to acquire superstars to replace them, but rather would they be content with Rondo being the franchise player and the best player and not even try to get superstar players better than Rondo. That was my point the entire time. They won't be building around Rondo.


$11 million is very high for a 4th year player. He will be the highest paid Celtic in 2012...it seems this is the young player they will be banking on for the next 5 years.

The Celtics have nobody else to build around in 2012 other than Rondo.

[Allanon]

That they'd be banking on Rondo and the suggestion that they wouldn't have anyone else to build around as if they wouldn't even try to get anyone else to replace Pierce, KG, and Allen. That's what I've been asking this whole time. Not whether they'd be able to acquire superstars to replace them, but rather would they be content with Rondo being the franchise player and the best player and not even try to get superstar players better than Rondo. That was my point the entire time. They won't be building around Rondo.

First of all, that isn't what I originally opined. Look at my first post, I quoted it above. Obviously, there's nothing there that can be "inaccurate" as you said. But that's OK, I'll take this one as well.

The Celtics ARE banking on Rondo; there is nothing else right now.

Until something else materializes, they are still banking on Rondo; that's why Rondo's getting paid.

Nothing inaccurate here either.

[sprrs]

The question is, would someone have offered him at least that much this summer?

[JamStone]

First of all, that isn't what I originally opined. Look at my first post, I quoted it above. Obviously, there's nothing there that can be "inaccurate" as you said. But that's OK, I'll take this one as well.

The Celtics ARE banking on Rondo; there is nothing else right now.

Until something else materializes, they are still banking on Rondo; that's why Rondo's getting paid.

Nothing inaccurate here either.

I kept asking you whether you thought they'd try to build around Rondo as the best player, the franchise player and you kept avoiding answering that question. And look at the post I quoted. Your suggestion that they'd build around Rondo as the only player they'd have infers they wouldn't try to go after other superstars to replace Pierce, KG, and Allen, guys who would be better than Rondo. That's why I asked you to clarify that and you kept refusing to respond to it until you finally admitted that Boston would NOT be trying to build around Rondo.

[Allanon]

I kept asking you whether you thought they'd try to build around Rondo as the best player, the franchise player and you kept avoiding answering that question. And look at the post I quoted. Your suggestion that they'd build around Rondo as the only player they'd have infers they wouldn't try to go after other superstars to replace Pierce, KG, and Allen, guys who would be better than Rondo. That's why I asked you to clarify that and you kept refusing to respond to it until you finally admitted that Boston would NOT be trying to build around Rondo.

I never inferred they wouldn't "try". I inferred that I didn't think they would "get". I stated numerous times that they wouldn't "get" anybody but never once said they wouldn't "try".

I did say "banking" which in all sense of the word is accurate. Hoping and trying is in no sense banking.

This is what they have and what they are "banking" on - $11 million to Rajon Rondo. Anything else is just a possibility. There is no inaccuracy here.

[JamStone]

At least now you admit they won't be building or rebuilding around Rondo and just "banking" on him as their franchise player and that they'll try to acquire superstars to replace Pierce, KG, and Allen.

Thanks.

[Allanon]

At least now you admit they won't be building or rebuilding around Rondo and just "banking" on him as their franchise player and that they'll try to acquire superstars to replace Pierce, KG, and Allen.

Thanks.

Try <> Get.

Until the Celtics acquire somebody better than Rondo, they are building around Rondo.

Just like I said in my very first post; nothing has changed.

Thanks.

[Stump]

If Rondo remains as good as he is right now, then yeah, it's a bad deal. If he can continue to add to his game in the way Parker has, then it's a great deal.

[mogrovejo]

Absolutely. Once KG, Pierce and Ray Allen are gone, you'll realize how overpaid he really is.

Man, you've got to pull your act together.

This "He plays with 3 HoFers crap" is just to ridiculous. If Pierce, Ray Allen and Garnett were at their peak, maybe you could have a point. But especially considering the last half third of the reg. season + playoffs of the last season, where he actually stepped up, your argument is simply retarded.

Rondo's supporting cast was basically an ageing Pierce (who most of the times creates his own shot), an old Ray Allen who is arguably out of the top-10 players at his position, a backup 4th big in Glen Davis, a defensive minded role-player in Perkins, a 8th man in House and a 11th man in Scalabrine.

Are you saying this is a great supporting cast? Really? This is the kind of teammates that inflate the stats of a point-guard? An All-Star who isn't by any means a MVP contender or something, a fringe All-Star and hardly a top-10 player at his position, a decent role-player and a couple of scrubs?

Is your hate and stupidity so big that you pretend to convince us that Pierce, Allen, Big Baby, House, Perkins and Scalabrine is the best supporting cast a point-guard in the league may have?

One could argue that considering the existence of primitive cluelless fans who overrate scoring like Allanon and Lakaluva, Rondo's playing in a strict distributor role hurts his value on the public eye. When the Celtics needed his scoring, he stepped up. And his numbers would go up even more if he was able to dominate the ball as much as the typical PG or play at a faster pace that would fit his skill-set more. Plus, he was already averaging 6 assists per 36 as a rookie, playing with a crappy team, with Pierce injured most of the season. Rondo is probably the best defensive PG in the league, the best rebounding one, a great distributor, an excellent passer and a superb finisher at the rim.

[kamikazi_player]

Man, everyones taking a shot at Allanon these days, lol.

[Allanon]

Man, you've got to pull your act together.

This "He plays with 3 HoFers crap" is just to ridiculous. If Pierce, Ray Allen and Garnett were at their peak, maybe you could have a point. But especially considering the last half third of the reg. season + playoffs of the last season, where he actually stepped up, your argument is simply retarded.

Rondo's supporting cast was basically an ageing Pierce (who most of the times creates his own shot), an old Ray Allen who is arguably out of the top-10 players at his position, a backup 4th big in Glen Davis, a defensive minded role-player in Perkins, a 8th man in House and a 11th man in Scalabrine.

Are you saying this is a great supporting cast? Really? This is the kind of teammates that inflate the stats of a point-guard? An All-Star who isn't by any means a MVP contender or something, a fringe All-Star and hardly a top-10 player at his position, a decent role-player and a couple of scrubs?

Is your hate and stupidity so big that you pretend to convince us that Pierce, Allen, Big Baby, House, Perkins and Scalabrine is the best supporting cast a point-guard in the league may have?

WTF are you on? Are you even a Boston fan or are you really this stupid?

"Aging" Paul Pierce is putting up 22ppg and gave it to the Hornets just last night. He was a friggin' All-Star Last Year.

"An Old Ray" Allen is still the best spot-up shooter in the NBA. And in case you forget, was an All-Star last year as well.

Perkins is by far one of the best defensive centers in the NBA.


The Celtics have 3 current All-Stars on their team, this is by far one of the best supporting casts in the NBA.

This is THE BEST supporting cast any Top 10 PG has.

CP3 would get 100 assists per game playing with those guys.

The more you talk, the more I realize how fucking stupid you are...you give Boston fans a bad name, much better ones here.

[Allanon]

Man, everyones taking a shot at Allanon these days, lol.

And they've ALL failed. Notice that none of those big-mouthed bitches took me up on my Marc Gasol bet? Bunch of pussies too scurred to put their sig on the line :lmao

I decidedly lost one to Mono last year, other than that I'm still going strong

Keep 'em coming boys. :lol

[Amaso]

Rondo is an absolute monster, this is a great deal for the Celtics. He's not a franchise player but he's going to be a multiple time all-star in his career and is already a top 5 point guard.

[mogrovejo]

WTF are you on? Are you even a Boston fan or are you really this stupid?

"Aging" Paul Pierce is putting up 22ppg and gave it to the Hornets just last night. He was a friggin' All-Star Last Year.

"An Old Ray" Allen is still the best spot-up shooter in the NBA. And in case you forget, was an All-Star last year as well.

Perkins is by far one of the best defensive centers in the NBA.


The Celtics have 3 current All-Stars on their team, this is by far one of the best supporting casts in the NBA.

This is THE BEST supporting cast any Top 10 PG has.

CP3 would get 100 assists per game playing with those guys.

The more you talk, the more I realize how fucking stupid you are...you give Boston fans a bad name, much better ones here.

First, Garnett wasn't on the roster for a big part of the last season. Accordingly to your bizarre logic, Rondo's production should have declined. It didn't. In fact, the opposite happened. Is this so hard to comprehend?

Second, Ray Allen made the All-Star game because of injuries to other guys.

Perkins is one of the best defensive centers in the league, but how exactly that helps Rondo's offence?

Face it: when a fringe All-Star like Ray Allen is the 2nd best player in your supporting cast and journeymen bench players like House or Davis your 3rd and 4th best players, the guys surrounding you on offence aren't really that good. You should just admit it or say you weren't aware Garnett got injured or that you never knew Rondo averaged 10/6/5 as a starter in his rookie season playing with arguably the worst team in the league.

[Muser]

The Rondo hate is pretty funny, what did he do to deserve it? Average a triple double?

[mavs>spurs2]

Rondo is an absolute monster, this is a great deal for the Celtics. He's not a franchise player but he's going to be a multiple time all-star in his career and is already a top 5 point guard.

I got attacked in the other thread for saying that, but you're absolutely right.

[djohn2oo8]

I guess being a bitch made pussy gets you paid

[Allanon]

First, Garnett wasn't on the roster for a big part of the last season. Accordingly to your bizarre logic, Rondo's production should have declined. It didn't. In fact, the opposite happened. Is this so hard to comprehend?

WTF should his numbers decline? He's playing with 2 fucking All Stars you dumb-ass.



Second, Ray Allen made the All-Star game because of injuries to other guys.

You mean Ray Allen was not an All Star? Look it up bitch. Obviously a Boston bandwagoner.
http://www.nba.com/allstar2009/players/



Perkins is one of the best defensive centers in the league, but how exactly that helps Rondo's offence?

You're saying he has a shitty supporting cast. I'm saying he has THE BEST absolute supporting cast in the NBA for a Top10 PG.



Face it: when a fringe All-Star like Ray Allen is the 2nd best player in your supporting cast and journeymen bench players like House or Davis your 3rd and 4th best players, the guys surrounding you on offence aren't really that good. You should just admit it or say you weren't aware Garnett got injured or that you never knew Rondo averaged 10/6/5 as a starter in his rookie season playing with arguably the worst team in the league.

Ray Allen is the absolute best spot-up shooter in the NBA. Let's not try to paint it in a different color. There's also Paul Pierce who is Top 3 at his position.

KG's injury is well known. That doesn't change the fact that Rondo plays with 3 CURRENT All-Stars. NO Top10 PG in the NBA can say that. No Top10 PG has a better supporting cast than Rajon Rondo.

10/6/5 as a rookie. Solid numbers but is that somehow supposed to impress me?

[Spursfan092120]

wow...just ridiculous dough...overpaid by a long shot.

[DrHouse]

I know this has probably been discussed to death but the simple fact that Rondo cannot shoot the basketball limits his effectiveness as a PG unless he is surrounded by All-Star talent. He will become an extreme liability on offense the moment you take away Pierce, KG, Allen, Sheed, House, etc.

I don't really think the Celtics care much about the team beyond this year and next year. They are going for broke, and rightfully so IMHO.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

First, Garnett wasn't on the roster for a big part of the last season. Accordingly to your bizarre logic, Rondo's production should have declined. It didn't. In fact, the opposite happened. Is this so hard to comprehend?

Apparently it is. I tried explaining it yesterday.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Look at some of the most recent extensions/resignings given out, Andrea Bargnani just received 5 years 50 million, Lamarcus Aldridge got 5 years $70 million, and Anderson Varejao received 6 years 50 million. IMO, Rondo at 5 years $55 million gives you more bang for your buck than any of those three contracts.

[mavs>spurs2]

First, Garnett wasn't on the roster for a big part of the last season. Accordingly to your bizarre logic, Rondo's production should have declined. It didn't. In fact, the opposite happened. Is this so hard to comprehend?

That's the point I've been trying to make to this idiot since yesterday

[Allanon]

lol 15
lol back-pedaler
lol (4) Mavfan to the rescue

[DPG21920]

He will be making more than Parker made last year when he had a finals MVP under his belt.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

He will be making more than Parker made last year when he had a finals MVP under his belt.


One reason the Spurs are successful is that Parker and Ginobili take less than their worth. Parker could easily make more than he makes and don't pretend you don't know that.

[Kobe™]

a Tad too much.

[DPG21920]

One reason the Spurs are successful is that Parker and Ginobili take less than their worth. Parker could easily make more than he makes and don't pretend you don't know that.

What is your point?

[mogrovejo]

He will be making more than Parker made last year when he had a finals MVP under his belt.

Uh, no he won't. Next season he'll make $2 million, in the following one $9 million. And in any case, when Parker signed his contract, the cap was lower. He'll be making much more money than Isiah Thomas ever made - what's the point? Only in 12/13 he'll be making as much money as Parker last season.

[mogrovejo]

Second, Ray Allen made the All-Star game because of injuries to other guys.



You mean Ray Allen was not an All Star? Look it up bitch. Obviously a Boston bandwagoner.
http://www.nba.com/allstar2009/players/


I had to stop here. You aren't even able to understand what "made the All-Star because other guys were injured" (he was only picked after Jameer Nelson went down) means. I really don't know what else to say.

[DPG21920]

I thought it was 11M per year...So it starts at 9 and goes up? And how the hell will he make 2M next year?

[mogrovejo]

I thought it was 11M per year...So it starts at 9 and goes up? And how the hell will he make 2M next year?

By next I mean this one, I'm still in off-season mode.

[TIMMYD!]

He's a good player but he's overpaid for sure.

[LnGrrrR]

Did anyone mention that this may be a way to vet Rondo to play well this yeR without worrying about forcing shots to get a good deal on the open
market? It wouldn't surprise me if they overpaid with the knowledge that their window is closing and they need Rondo at the top of his game.

[Mori Chu]

It doesn't really matter whether you think Rondo just got overpaid. Fact of the matter is, if you want him happy this season and playing hard, you have to give him a contract. They want to contend for a title again, so they need this. Seems like a fair contract (by current NBA economics) to me.

The only X-factor as I see it is that the collective bargaining agreement may go down in 2011 after the impending negotiation/strike. That could leave teams regretting big contract signings made around this time.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

What is your point?


That using Parker's contract as a gauge as to whether or not Rondo is overpaid is a flawed argument. By those standards almost every player making between 10-12 million is overpaid.

[Chieflion]

Allanon, did the Lakers winning the championship make you this stupid? This is an excellent deal.

[dastrey]

$55 million for a guy that can't shoot? What happens when he doesn't play with 3 All-Stars? Would another team be dumb enough to throw $50 million next summer? Any team with Rondo as one of it's top 2 players will fail.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

What happens when he doesn't play with 3 All-Stars?


Well when one of them went down with an injury last year his numbers went up so......

[Allanon]

Allanon, did the Lakers winning the championship make you this stupid? This is an excellent deal.

It may have made me stupid but I've always known you were stupid.

[Chieflion]

$55 million for a guy that can't shoot? What happens when he doesn't play with 3 All-Stars? Would another team be dumb enough to throw $50 million next summer? Any team with Rondo as one of it's top 2 players will fail.
Yes. Overpaying will be happening a lot after teams realise that the top 2010 free agents are gone. If you are going to give Bargnani 50 million, then giving 55 million to Rajon Rondo is justified.

[Chieflion]

It may have made me stupid but I've always known you were stupid.
I take my words back. You are just fucking insane. Take your meds and go sleep.

[Allanon]

I take my words back. You are just fucking insane. Take your meds and go sleep.

Haha, and you're a fucking idiot. What else is new? :lol

[Chieflion]

Haha, and you're a fucking idiot. What else is new? :lol
You getting a mental illness is something very new. Same goes for your mom.

[Allanon]

You getting a mental illness is something very new. Same goes for your mom.

Hahah, my mom?

You're right though, your mom is old news to me. A little worn out and dirty but I like it like that.

[will_spurs]

I don't think he will ever deserve that kind of money, but props to him for getting the max he could, he's surfing on the hype and not the first one to do so. He's not blatantly overpaid like quite a few players in this league (I think Jerome James is still making $5m this year because of a double-double he had in the playoffs 5 years ago).

And comparing a contract to Parker's is unfair, especially since Parker is at the tail end of his current contract.

Rondo is probably a $9m/year guy, paying him $11m to ensure he will play hard in the twilight of Garnett's career isn't that dumb, and they will ship his ass as soon as Boston's Big 3 goes into retirement, that's for sure. You can always count on the Grizz, Bucks, Kings or Knicks to help out in this case.

[Lars]

I dont know how I feel about this. I'm holding my judgement.

[Mel_13]

Allanon, did the Lakers winning the championship make you this stupid? This is an excellent deal.


It is certainly an excellent deal for Rondo, his family, and his agent.

[Chieflion]

It is certainly an excellent deal for Rondo, his family, and his agent.
Like I said, if Bargnani can get 50 million for playing well for half a season, Rondo should get 55 million for being a good defender and excellent playmaker at the PG spot for the past two seasons. The last guy to average a triple double in a playoff series was Jason Kidd, no one came close to that except for Rondo. Besides, he has made things very easy for the "Big Three" of the Celtics, if you consider Ray Allen still part of it. Otherwsie, it would be safe to assume that Rondo is now part of that big three.

[Mel_13]

if Bargnani can get 50 million for playing well for half a season, Rondo should get 55 million for being a good defender and excellent playmaker at the PG spot for the past two seasons.

That's your opinion, I disagree. Never really understood the point of comparing contracts like that. So some other team overpaid some other player. Boston overpaid to keep the guy happy. They made a judgment. Good for them.

We'll never know Rondo's market value because he won't hit the market. You think Boston got an excellent deal. I think they overpaid. Just as Toronto overpaid Bargnani and Portland overpaid Aldridge.

[Chieflion]

That's your opinion, I disagree. Never really understood the point of comparing contracts like that. So some other team overpaid some other player. Boston overpaid to keep the guy happy. They made a judgment. Good for them.

We'll never know Rondo's market value because he won't hit the market. You think Boston got an excellent deal. I think they overpaid. Just as Toronto overpaid Bargnani and Portland overpaid Aldridge.
Lets do it this way, we all know Parker's contract. So I won't list the average. Oh ya, players do get paid depending on their age and potential, this year, Rondo is 23 and improving.

1. Gilbert Arenas - $19m
2. Chris Paul - $15.6m
3. Deron Williams - $15.6m
4. Baron Davis - $13.5m
5. Chauncey Billups - $13m
6. Steve Nash - $11m
7. Rajon Rondo - $11m
8. Monta Ellis $11m
9. Jose Calderon - $9.6m
10. Kirk Hinrich - $9m
11. Devin Harris - $8.8m
12. Mo Williams - $8.8m
13. Jason Kidd - $8.5m
14. TJ Ford - $8,5m
15. Jameer Nelson - $7m
16. Beno Udrih - $7m
17. Andre Miller - $6.5m
18. Mike Bibby - $6m
19. Chris Duhon - $6m
20. Derek Fisher - $5m

I got this from a poster in RealGM. Tell me who is a better player than Rondo is this list.

[Mel_13]

Lets do it this way, we all know Parker's contract. So I won't list the average. Oh ya, players do get paid depending on their age and potential, this year, Rondo is 23 and improving.

1. Gilbert Arenas - $19m
2. Chris Paul - $15.6m
3. Deron Williams - $15.6m
4. Baron Davis - $13.5m
5. Chauncey Billups - $13m
6. Steve Nash - $11m
7. Rajon Rondo - $11m
8. Monta Ellis $11m
9. Jose Calderon - $9.6m
10. Kirk Hinrich - $9m
11. Devin Harris - $8.8m
12. Mo Williams - $8.8m
13. Jason Kidd - $8.5m
14. TJ Ford - $8,5m
15. Jameer Nelson - $7m
16. Beno Udrih - $7m
17. Andre Miller - $6.5m
18. Mike Bibby - $6m
19. Chris Duhon - $6m
20. Derek Fisher - $5m

I got this from a poster in RealGM. Tell me who is a better player than Rondo is this list.

It doesn't matter.

Every player's market value is set by the conditions that exist when he becomes a FA. The circumstances that existed when each of those players hit free agency will not exist in the summer of 2010. Furthermore, Boston would have been able to match any offer that Rondo received next summer.

The real question to ask is:

Which team with enough projected cap space in the summer of 2010 would be likely to sign Rondo to an offer sheet well in excess of 5/55?

[TDMVPDPOY]

Alot of the young players are gettin paid around 10m anyway.....you dont see max type players no more...

[will_spurs]

Alot of the young players are gettin paid around 10m anyway.....you dont see max type players no more...

Well, players of the caliber of Duncan or Shaq aren't getting drafted every year, that's for sure. But when you see the money guys like Paul or D-Will make, they are doing good.

[Allanon]

It is certainly an excellent deal for Rondo, his family, and his agent.

:lol

[Chieflion]

It doesn't matter.

Every player's market value is set by the conditions that exist when he becomes a FA. The circumstances that existed when each of those players hit free agency will not exist in the summer of 2010. Furthermore, Boston would have been able to match any offer that Rondo received next summer.

The real question to ask is:

Which team with enough projected cap space in the summer of 2010 would be likely to sign Rondo to an offer sheet well in excess of 5/55?
Teams that did not get to sign their 2010 free agents. 2010 is going to be the year where people who will get overpaid. The market is set when the first player in the 2006 draft got extended, which is Bargnani or Roy. Either way 5/55 is not the max and Rondo did not deserve the max either. Maybe he only deserved 5/52 but if he continues to tear up the league, he would get paid the max. Players who have potential to become better than they are get the cash. That is the standard set by the league now. Old players get dumped on their heads like Mike Bibby and Andre Miller who took paycuts.

[Mel_13]

Teams that did not get to sign their 2010 free agents. 2010 is going to be the year where people who will get overpaid. The market is set when the first player in the 2006 draft got extended, which is Bargnani or Roy. Either way 5/55 is not the max and Rondo did not deserve the max either. Maybe he only deserved 5/52 but if he continues to tear up the league, he would get paid the max. Players who have potential to become better than they are get the cash. That is the standard set by the league now. Old players get dumped on their heads like Mike Bibby and Andre Miller who took paycuts.


Again, your opinion. I disagree.

Boston assumed additional risk by extending him a year early. If he suffers an injury that makes him an average player, they are stuck with the contract. The reward for taking on the additional risk is avoiding the possibility of paying him much more. When I look at the teams with sufficient cap space and their needs, I find that possibility to be very small.

You think 2010 will be a year where many will be overpaid, I think the possibility of a drastically reduced cap means many may be disappointed.

Once the free agent class of 2010 gets their contracts, we'll know which opinion was correct.

[DPG21920]

Bargnani is a 22 PPG scorer right now.

[Allanon]

Bargnani is a 22 PPG scorer right now.

Very impressive this year.

[Chieflion]

Most of the time, potential + hard work pays off. If Rondo cannot be Jason Kidd's clone, at least he could be Jason Kidd lite. Bargnani is doing well but Calderon is like a sieve which makes Bosh and Bargs look like idiots when their man gets the ball and scores because Calderon canot keep his man in front of him.

[LnGrrrR]

That WAS a nice behind the rim shot though :D

[DPG21920]

Very impressive this year.

I don't see how people can bag on Bargs contract. Especially if he keeps shooting and scoring like he is right now.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

If you doubt this kid you obviously didn't see him dominate last year's playoffs with half a roster around him. This contract is spot-on.