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Taco
11-02-2009, 05:17 PM
Per Don Harris news 4 just on espn radio

trying to find a link

SKINNYPIMP210
11-02-2009, 05:20 PM
oh snap, I guess the peta people will be happy cause now Manu has to go through some pains with the shots.... F peta!

angel_luv
11-02-2009, 05:22 PM
Ouch! Sorry MG!

SpurNation
11-02-2009, 05:30 PM
Not suprising. Bats are known carriers of rabies. They can bite you and you won't know you are bit. Anybody who handled the bat without protective devises should get the shots as precaution.

Zero_Twilight
11-02-2009, 05:30 PM
WTF?!!? Is this serious or a joke?

TIMMYD!
11-02-2009, 05:34 PM
Aren't rabies shots one of the most painful around?

phyzik
11-02-2009, 05:37 PM
Aren't rabies shots one of the most painful around?

Not anymore, it USED to be something like 18 shots into your stomach, it has evolved since then.

Today, the rabies vaccine has only 5-7 shots in the arm and the butt. The shots are spread out on different days, and they help your body fight the rabies virus, so you don’t catch the disease.

Its not that bad anymore.

myhc
11-02-2009, 05:51 PM
Yep, I knew they were coming.

ElNono
11-02-2009, 05:53 PM
ducks posting in this thread in 3..2..1...

Buddy Holly
11-02-2009, 05:54 PM
It's the wise thing to do. You can contract rabies without being bite.

peskypesky
11-02-2009, 05:55 PM
i think Manu with rabies would be awesome to watch!

Bukefal
11-02-2009, 05:59 PM
I was thinking about this. The only stupid thing I could think of when Manu got the bat, was that's not so smart because bats could carry diseases.

lmbebo
11-02-2009, 06:00 PM
If I remember, its a series of 5 shots over a month.

I had to get them like 2 years ago. Painful, but not bad. You have to get them in certain incremets.

I had a bat wake me up one night. They don't have to bite you to give you rabies. It can be transmitted in their saliva as well.

Sausage
11-02-2009, 06:01 PM
It was the top story on KSAT 12, our ABC affiliate. It's just a precaution. But sounds like he got 4 shots today, and will still need another 10 throughout the month to complete the vaccination.

NASpurs
11-02-2009, 06:01 PM
Sean Elliott joked around saying that Manu should come to practice foaming at the mouth.

Obviously Sean is a man who can see the future.

SpursRulez4eVeR
11-02-2009, 06:01 PM
damn batmanu is human afterall :bang

bigdog
11-02-2009, 06:08 PM
the bat should be the one getting the shot :lol

Spurs Brazil
11-02-2009, 06:14 PM
Rabies shots for Manu
By Jeff McDonald on Nov 2, 09 04:40 PM | Permalink | Comments (3) Save & Share Yahoo! BuzzYahoo! Newsvine del.icio.us Facebook Google Reddit Fark
Manu Ginobili's Halloween run-in with a bat made for entertaining news fodder for a few days. Ginobili, however, isn't laughing anymore.

Team officials could not locate the bat after Saturday's game against Sacramento, so it could not be tested for disease. Which meant Ginobili will spend the next month getting a series of precautionary shots to protect against rabies.

"It was pretty funny at the time," Ginobili said before practice this afternoon. "Now, it's not. I have to get like a million shots."

According to the Center for Disease Control, only a small percentage of bats carry the rabies virus. Ginobili took four injections Sunday, in the arm and hip, and is scheduled for four more sessions over the next month.

Ginobili has shown no symptoms of the disease, and was expected to practice as normal this afternoon.

If he learned anything from the ordeal, it's that it's all fun and games until someone needs a rabies shot.

"It wasn't so much fun," Ginobili said. "The bat survived. I'm fine. I'm not going to have rabies. The bat won."
http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/courtside/2009/11/rabies-shots-fo.html

spursdotcom
11-02-2009, 06:41 PM
http://twitter.com/spursdotcomjohn/status/5374151560

RuffnReadyOzStyle
11-02-2009, 06:53 PM
Rabies shots for Manu
By Jeff McDonald on Nov 2, 09 04:40 PM | Permalink | Comments (3) Save & Share Yahoo! BuzzYahoo! Newsvine del.icio.us Facebook Google Reddit Fark
Manu Ginobili's Halloween run-in with a bat made for entertaining news fodder for a few days. Ginobili, however, isn't laughing anymore.

Team officials could not locate the bat after Saturday's game against Sacramento, so it could not be tested for disease. Which meant Ginobili will spend the next month getting a series of precautionary shots to protect against rabies.

"It was pretty funny at the time," Ginobili said before practice this afternoon. "Now, it's not. I have to get like a million shots."

According to the Center for Disease Control, only a small percentage of bats carry the rabies virus. Ginobili took four injections Sunday, in the arm and hip, and is scheduled for four more sessions over the next month.

Ginobili has shown no symptoms of the disease, and was expected to practice as normal this afternoon.

If he learned anything from the ordeal, it's that it's all fun and games until someone needs a rabies shot.

"It wasn't so much fun," Ginobili said. "The bat survived. I'm fine. I'm not going to have rabies. The bat won."
http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/courtside/2009/11/rabies-shots-fo.html

Do your fucking research, moron - symptoms don't show for at least two weeks.

I guess it makes sense for Manu to have the shots as a precautionary measure, but a very low % of the bat population carries the virus, he'd know if he'd been bitten (despite what someone else said - how can you get bitten by something and not know? ever been bitten by a mouse? you know about it!), and he washed his hands in antiseptic cream straight afterwards which would have killed any bacteria or viruses on his hands.

Storm in a freakin teacup.


It's the wise thing to do. You can contract rabies without being bite.

Very, very rarely, and I'm pretty sure only by inhaling infected guano in caves. You can't magically get it in a situation like this where you've not bitten or breathing rabies-infected guano.

EmptyMan
11-02-2009, 06:56 PM
What a joke.

waaaaaaaahh waaaaaaaaah an itty bitty monstrous bat is going to take down Manu waaaaaaaaah

Venture out of suburbia ffs.

Spursmania
11-02-2009, 06:59 PM
Well, we now know the bat probably survived. So, Peta can stuff it.

Manu can handle the shots.

easy7
11-02-2009, 07:02 PM
Holy frijole, Batman....

SpurNation
11-02-2009, 07:20 PM
I guess it makes sense for Manu to have the shots as a precautionary measure, but a very low % of the bat population carries the virus, he'd know if he'd been bitten (despite what someone else said - how can you get bitten by something and not know? ever been bitten by a mouse? you know about it!), and he washed his hands in antiseptic cream straight afterwards which would have killed any bacteria or viruses on his hands.

Yes you can get bitten by something and not know you were bit. Personal experience to that fact has left a quarter size scar on my leg by being bitten by a Brown Recluse spider earlier in my life. Eventually I knew I was bit...but not at the time it happened.

This from here. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/27/AR2009072702214.html

http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2009/07/27/PH2009072702215.jpg (javascript:void(popitup('http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2009/07/27/PH2009072702217.html',650,850)))
Bats' teeth are very fine. People sometimes don't know they've been bitten. (© Michelle Hamel -- Istockphoto)


Also


Rabies is extremely rare in people, though as many as 40,000 Americans get treatment every year to prevent the disease after coming into contact with an animal that might be infected. Bats are the source of most of the recent human cases in the United States, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. A biologist from Bat Conservation International told me that the vast majority of bats are rabies-free, but there are signs to watch for: Any bat that is active by day or unable to fly, the CDC says, is far more likely to be rabid.


Also...I would like to know your credentials for your explanation. Mine are from experience and from dealing with various biologists throughout my life while growing up on a wildlife refuge.

z0sa
11-02-2009, 07:25 PM
Also...I would like to know your credentials for your explanation. Mine are from experience and from dealing with various biologists throughout my life while growing up on a wildlife refuge.

97% of human rabies cases come from dog bites.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabies)

The bat was active at night and flying around just fine, as we all saw. Stop fear-mongering.

SpurNation
11-02-2009, 07:36 PM
I'm not fear mongering. It was precautionary as it should have been.

This

Bats are the source of most of the recent human cases in the United States, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

definately conflicts with this.
97% of human rabies cases come from dog bites.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabies)

So if one doesn't know for sure the best thing to do is precaution. How is that fear mongering?

Would you rather Manu didn't take the shots and then contract the disease?

Likelyhood...probably not....but precaution would insure it didn't happen.

z0sa
11-02-2009, 07:40 PM
I'm not fear mongering. It was precautionary as it should have been.

Then why are you demanding credentials? Are you some admirer of bats? Know all about them and study them daily with grant money? If not, credentials don't mean jack.


This


definately conflicts with this.
97% of human rabies cases come from dog bites.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabies)

Yeah, it does. It blows your fear-mongering attempt out of the water. I have yet to see a source for your information, either, Mr. In need of Credentials.

Let me just get this straight: so we know that there's only a very small chance (est. 3%) that the bat could physically be able to give Manu rabies. The bat passed the flying test and was active at night, greatly minimizing the chance he did have rabies. So we've got someone overreacting over an impossible chance Manu has rabies.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
11-02-2009, 07:56 PM
Also...I would like to know your credentials for your explanation. Mine are from experience and from dealing with various biologists throughout my life while growing up on a wildlife refuge.

Credentials for my explanation of what? I'm an ecologist, and as such studied some biology. Also, I can research.

From the CDC rabies webpage:


People usually know when they have been bitten by a bat. However, because bats have small teeth which may leave marks that are not easily seen, there are situations in which you should seek medical advice even in the absence of an obvious bite wound. For example, if you awaken and find a bat in your room, see a bat in the room of an unattended child, or see a bat near a mentally impaired or intoxicated person, seek medical advice and have the bat tested.

http://www.cdc.gov/RABIES/bats.html

So, they are being super cautious, as the CDC should be, but it's really about sleeping children and prevention/legal liability. If you read the page you'll find there was a case of a sleeping child who appeared uninjured but later died of rabies.

Also:


Can I get rabies in any way other than an animal bite?

Non-bite exposures to rabies are very rare. Scratches, abrasions, open wounds, or mucous membranes contaminated with saliva or other potentially infectious material (such as brain tissue) from a rabid animal constitute non-bite exposures. Occasionally reports of non-bite exposure are such that postexposure prophylaxis is given.

Inhalation of aerosolized rabies virus is also a potential non-bite route of exposure, but other than laboratory workers, most people are unlikely to encounter an aerosol of rabies virus.

Other contact, such as petting a rabid animal or contact with the blood, urine or feces (e.g., guano) of a rabid animal, does not constitute an exposure and is not an indication for prophylaxis.

But from the CDC paper cited below:

Nonbite exposures. Nonbite exposures from animals very rarely cause rabies. However, occasional reports of nonbite transmission suggest that such exposures require assessment to determine if sufficient reasons exist to consider postexposure prophylaxis (104). The nonbite exposures of highest risk appear to be among surgical recipients of corneas, solid organs, and vascular tissue transplanted from patients who died of rabies and persons exposed to large amounts of aerosolized rabies virus. Two cases of rabies have been attributed to probable aerosol exposures in laboratories, and two cases of rabies have been attributed to possible airborne exposures in caves containing millions of free-tailed bats (Tadarida brasiliensis) in the Southwest. However, alternative infection routes can not be discounted (105--109). Similar airborne incidents have not occurred in approximately 25 years, probably because of elevated awareness of such risks resulting in increased use of appropriate preventive measures.

The contamination of open wounds or abrasions (including scratches) or mucous membranes with saliva or other potentially infectious material (e.g., neural tissue) from a rabid animal also constitutes a nonbite exposure. Rabies virus is inactivated by desiccation, ultraviolet irradiation, and other factors and does not persist in the environment. In general, if the suspect material is dry, the virus can be considered noninfectious. Nonbite exposures other than organ or tissue transplants have almost never been proven to cause rabies, and postexposure prophylaxis is not indicated unless the nonbite exposure met the definition of saliva or other potentially infectious material being introduced into fresh, open cuts in skin or onto mucous membranes.

So, you can get it from aerosolized infected guano, but cases are extremely rare.


97% of human rabies cases come from dog bites.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabies)

The bat was active at night and flying around just fine, as we all saw. Stop fear-mongering.

From the same article:


Bernhard Dietzschold is a professor at Thomas Jefferson University in Philadelphia who specializes in nervous system viruses like rabies. He says that since 97 percent of all human rabies cases are caused by dog bites, preventing rabies in dogs is the key to eradicating the disease worldwide.

If you want to know more about rabies, read this:

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5703a1.htm

(Human Rabies Prevention, United States, 2008: Recommendations of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices)

It states:

"As a result of improved canine vaccination programs and stray animal control, a marked decrease in domestic animal rabies cases in the United States occurred after World War II. This decline led to a substantial decrease in indigenously acquired rabies among humans (5). In 1946, a total of 8,384 indigenous rabies cases were reported among dogs and 33 cases in humans. In 2006, a total of 79 cases of rabies were reported in domestic dogs, none of which was attributed to enzootic dog-to-dog transmission, and three cases were reported in humans (6). The infectious sources of the 79 cases in dogs were wildlife reservoirs or dogs that were translocated from localities where canine rabies virus variants still circulate. None of the 2006 human rabies cases was acquired from indigenous domestic animals (6). Thus, the likelihood of human exposure to a rabid domestic animal in the United States has decreased substantially. However, one of the three human rabies cases diagnosed in 2006 was associated with a dog bite that occurred in the Philippines, where canine rabies is enzootic. The risk for reintroduction from abroad remains (7). International travelers to areas where canine rabies remains enzootic are at risk for exposure to rabies from domestic and feral dogs."

Oh, and next time, you might want to question someone who doesn't actually do their research when they make a claim of fact.

EricB
11-02-2009, 08:00 PM
oh goody the internet professors are whipping it out and measuring.

EricB
11-02-2009, 08:02 PM
Kidding guys, don't take the whole thing so seriously...

SpurNation
11-02-2009, 08:06 PM
Then why are you demanding credentials? Are you some admirer of bats? Know all about them and study them daily with grant money? If not, credentials don't mean jack.



Yeah, it does. It blows your fear-mongering attempt out of the water. I have yet to see a source for your information, either, Mr. In need of Credentials.

Let me just get this straight: so we know that there's only a very small chance (est. 3%) that the bat could physically be able to give Manu rabies. The bat passed the flying test and was active at night, greatly minimizing the chance he did have rabies. So we've got someone overreacting over an impossible chance Manu has rabies.

You think I was fear mongering...you would be wrong.

Also your "credentialed" post comes from "Wikepedia" the one I found came from a CDC quote. Which would more than likely believe?

But I was not pointing out where the majority of rabies are contracted from but more so to the acusation that one would know if they got bit by an animal (bat). I showed that one could get bit and not know plus through personal experience know it to be fact. Where was I wrong?

And please...if it's not too much trouble...would you rather Manu didn't take precautionary measures?

RuffnReadyOzStyle
11-02-2009, 08:32 PM
You think I was fear mongering...you would be wrong.

Also your "credentialed" post comes from "Wikepedia" the one I found came from a CDC quote. Which would more than likely believe?

But I was not pointing out where the majority of rabies are contracted from but more so to the acusation that one would know if they got bit by an animal (bat). I showed that one could get bit and not know plus through personal experience know it to be fact. Where was I wrong?

And please...if it's not too much trouble...would you rather Manu didn't take precautionary measures?

No, his Wikipedia quote comes from this article:

http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/2009-07/2009-07-08-voa62.cfm?CFID=316132061&CFTOKEN=85235355&jsessionid=de30df03af76b528b1e8832253c244b5b155

He should have gone to the primary source.

Of course Manu should take precautions, but it's still a storm in a teacup and EXTREMELY unlikely that that bat had rabies, and even less likely Manu contracted it by not noticing that it bit him, especially given that it was STUNNED AT THE TIME.

If you really want to know more about rabies, try reading that CDC paper I linked you to.

SpurNation
11-02-2009, 08:42 PM
Oh, and next time, you might want to question someone who doesn't actually do their research when they make a claim of fact.

You may not want to claim people don't know if they know if they are bit or not when proof shows to be the opposite in situations such as bat bites.

z0sa
11-02-2009, 08:45 PM
There's a reason I left the "[2]" on there. It's not an assertion, but backed by a source. Besides, I thought it was common knowledge that dogs spread rabies the most.

SpurNation
11-02-2009, 09:04 PM
There's a reason I left the "[2]" on there. It's not an assertion, but backed by a source. Besides, I thought it was common knowledge that dogs spread rabies the most.

I understand. But realize that the largest concentration of Free Tail bats resides in the San Antonio area.

I was taking into account a "wild" species and not domesticated such as dogs.

this from: http://www.cdc.gov/rabies/epidemiology.html




Wild Animals

Wild animals accounted for 92% of reported cases of rabies in 2006. Raccoons continued to be the most frequently reported rabid wildlife species (37.7% of all animal cases during 2006), followed by bats (24.4%), skunks (21.5%), foxes (6.2%), and other wild animals, including rodents and lagomorphs (0.6%). Reported cases increased among all wild animals during 2006.

Outbreaks of rabies infections in terrestrial mammals like raccoons, skunks, foxes, and coyotes are found in broad geographic regions across the United States. Geographic boundaries of currently recognized reservoirs for rabies in terrestrial mammals are shown on the map below.

Domestic Animals

Domestic species accounted for 8% of all rabid animals reported in the United States in 2006. The number of reported rabid domestic animals increased among all species during 2006 except cattle which decreased by 11.8% compared to 2005.

In 2006, cases of rabies in cats increased 18.2% compared with the number reported in 2005. The number of rabies cases reported in cats is routinely 3-4 times as that of rabies reported in cattle or dogs. Pennsylvania reported the largest number of rabid domestic animals (72) for any state, followed by Virginia (62). In 2006 approximately 1% of cats and 0.3% of dogs tested for rabies were found positive.




Again, I wasn't disputing the facts established by any source. But I was annoyed that you thought my claim to not knowing if one might know if they were bit or not to be false. I think I proved otherwise.

In the act of swatting the bat...Ginobili could have garnished a bite as well as when he picked up the bat and not even known to have been bit. The first reaction of any wild animal when defending itself is to bite.

MB20
11-02-2009, 09:29 PM
Next game, when attacking the basket, Manu should say to whoever is guarding him: "Get out of my way or I'll bite you".

TMTTRIO
11-02-2009, 09:36 PM
Next game, when attacking the basket, Manu should say to whoever is guarding him: "Get out of my way or I'll bite you".

That's what I was thinking. How many guys are really going to want to guard Manu closely the next few games :lol.

Samr
11-02-2009, 09:54 PM
New game plan: give the ball to Manu on every single possession. He will drive the lane, and score an uncontested layup, each time.

Why?

Because Pop will say he has rabies, and opponents will be afraid to touch him.

hater
11-02-2009, 09:56 PM
you guys do realize the Spurs team has a higher chance of dying in a plane crash than Manu dying of rabies right? the bat didnt' even bite him for christ sake!!!!

welcome to the USA Manu. In argentina you just put that shit on the grill and spread some chimichurri on it :pctoss

024
11-02-2009, 10:13 PM
looks like the bat won this battle...

BlackSwordsMan
11-02-2009, 10:30 PM
spurs have another excuse if they get eliminated in the 1st round again

mytespurs
11-02-2009, 10:57 PM
I figured Manu would need to get shots. Sounds painful.

Are there side effects to the rabies vaccination that may or may not affect his game?

Samr
11-02-2009, 11:00 PM
Can someone photoshop Manu's face onto this:

http://www.oxycottontail.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/cujo.jpg

DAF86
11-02-2009, 11:01 PM
:lol Why are people freaking out over some precautionary shots?

hater
11-03-2009, 12:06 AM
:lol Why are people freaking out over some precautionary shots?

I know right?

breaking news: Manu put on his seatbelt. you know, because he has a .05% chance of dying in a car crash

ducks
11-03-2009, 12:20 AM
yeah just maybe now he can realize how stupid he was

Manu'sMagicalLeftHand
11-03-2009, 12:33 AM
yeah just maybe now i can realize how stupid i am

fify

ducks
11-03-2009, 12:35 AM
fify

manu in his facebook said he was not that great thing to do
HIS WORDS NOT MINE
SO STFU

ducks
11-03-2009, 12:36 AM
fify

you are stupid you can not even quote me correctly
damm what a airhead

Manu'sMagicalLeftHand
11-03-2009, 12:40 AM
manu in his facebook said he was not that great thing to do
HIS WORDS NOT MINE
SO STFU

:lol


Manu hit Bat made news. No new tony pics or videos i want my mommy :cry

Manu'sMagicalLeftHand
11-03-2009, 12:41 AM
you are stupid you can not even quote me correctly
damm what a airhead

:lol

You're a lost cause. I shall leave your parallel universe on its own.

DAF86
11-03-2009, 12:56 AM
YES! a Manu vs Tony thread. It's been a long time since we had one of these.

raspsa
11-03-2009, 01:44 AM
Lucky manu.. got his shots on his arm. When Iwas bitten by a mouse on a toe years back, the doc injected the first shot into my toe.. hurt like crazy.

Fernando TD21
11-03-2009, 03:29 AM
YES! a Manu vs Tony thread. It's been a long time since we had one of these.
You know Tony could have caught the bat on air, without sending it to the floor. :downspin:

RuffnReadyOzStyle
11-03-2009, 03:54 AM
You may not want to claim people don't know if they know if they are bit or not when proof shows to be the opposite in situations such as bat bites.


People usually know when they have been bitten by a bat. However, because bats have small teeth which may leave marks that are not easily seen, there are situations in which you should seek medical advice even in the absence of an obvious bite wound. For example, if you awaken and find a bat in your room, see a bat in the room of an unattended child, or see a bat near a mentally impaired or intoxicated person, seek medical advice and have the bat tested.

http://www.cdc.gov/RABIES/bats.html

In other words, nothing like this situation.

However, I agree that people should take precautions.


Again, I wasn't disputing the facts established by any source. But I was annoyed that you thought my claim to not knowing if one might know if they were bit or not to be false. I think I proved otherwise.

In the act of swatting the bat...Ginobili could have garnished a bite as well as when he picked up the bat and not even known to have been bit. The first reaction of any wild animal when defending itself is to bite.

Um, no. The bat was stunned, and the reason it was stunned was that it didn't see manu's hand coming. There was no bite, and if there was he would have known about it. He wasn't asleep, he's not a child, nor is he meantally impaired. The CDC cites specific examples because those are clearly risk factors.

Anyway, Manu will be fine (although annoyed by the shots and unlikely to swat a bat without protective clothing on again - he'll leave it to the Coyote next time!), the bat was (sadly) probably tossed in a dumpster by an employee who either thought it was dead or didn't know what to do in the situation (there's no entry under "Manu swats bat!" in the orientation manual, I'm sure), and now we can all move on with our lives. :tu :lmao

sabar
11-03-2009, 04:06 AM
Do your fucking research, moron - symptoms don't show for at least two weeks.

I guess it makes sense for Manu to have the shots as a precautionary measure, but a very low % of the bat population carries the virus, he'd know if he'd been bitten (despite what someone else said - how can you get bitten by something and not know? ever been bitten by a mouse? you know about it!), and he washed his hands in antiseptic cream straight afterwards which would have killed any bacteria or viruses on his hands.

Storm in a freakin teacup.



Very, very rarely, and I'm pretty sure only by inhaling infected guano in caves. You can't magically get it in a situation like this where you've not bitten or breathing rabies-infected guano.

I've been bitten many times without knowing. I've also been scratched and lacerated without knowing. I didn't even realize I split my finger open a few months ago until I noticed blood pouring onto the floor. I have a 4 inch scratch on my right side right now that I don't even know where it came from. So, yeah, you can get bitten without knowing. Pretty sure I'm not alone in these occurrences.

Taking the shots is the smart thing to do if the animal can't be located and destroyed for brain samples. The shots only work in the early stages if the disease is in fact there. Also, Manu is worth $10,728,130 and the shots probably run $2,000.

Hand sanitizer is also ineffective against the rabies virus (http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.com/content/79/1/109.full.pdf). All it takes is some bat saliva to go through some Manu eye/nose/mouth membrane from hand contact.

kace
11-03-2009, 04:49 AM
YES! a Manu vs Tony thread. It's been a long time since we had one of these.

what are you talking about ? Ducks always tries to bash manu, whatever the situation. It's not a manu vs parker thing here, you're the one bringing that.




welcome to the USA Manu. In argentina you just put that shit on the grill and spread some chimichurri on it :pctoss

:lol so true




anyway, i've got to question the spurs medical staff.

i've questionned their diagnosis ability with the Mahinmi situation last season.

and now i question their reactivity for not having thought to say to the AT&T personnel to keep the bat in order to analyze it and maybe to avoid manu some useless shots.

Agloco
11-03-2009, 08:38 AM
Do your fucking research, moron - symptoms don't show for at least two weeks.

I guess it makes sense for Manu to have the shots as a precautionary measure, but a very low % of the bat population carries the virus, he'd know if he'd been bitten (despite what someone else said - how can you get bitten by something and not know? ever been bitten by a mouse? you know about it!), and he washed his hands in antiseptic cream straight afterwards which would have killed any bacteria or viruses on his hands.

Storm in a freakin teacup.



:nope

Sanitizers are by and large ineffective against killing viruses. They only reduce the absolute number which cling to your hands. Think of it as the sanitizer making it inhospitable for a virus. The best thing, as always, is to wash your hands which Manu didn't do immediately afterwards.

Also, keep in mind it's not the virus on his hands that's worrisome so much as the virus that may have gotten in through a break in his skin (eg. a bite that he didn't feel). Killing the virus on the skin after a bite does nothing to stop the progression of rabies.

Agloco
11-03-2009, 08:51 AM
anyway, i've got to question the spurs medical staff.

i've questionned their diagnosis ability with the Mahinmi situation last season.

and now i question their reactivity for not having thought to say to the AT&T personnel to keep the bat in order to analyze it and maybe to avoid manu some useless shots.

While it's a nice thought, I've gotta wonder about the associated costs with each course of action......

Mel_13
11-03-2009, 08:59 AM
and now i question their reactivity for not having thought to say to the AT&T personnel to keep the bat in order to analyze it and maybe to avoid manu some useless shots.

I assume you've seen the video. If the reports are true that the bat was released, you have to assume that usher with the bat went to the nearest exit and let the thing go. That probably took less than a minute. Even if some member of the Spurs medical staff was in the arena and had the notion to try and stop the usher, it would have been virtually impossible to get word from the medical staff to the usher before the bat was long gone.

WalterBenitez
11-03-2009, 09:15 AM
Rabies shots for Manu
By Jeff McDonald on Nov 2, 09 04:40 PM | Permalink | Comments (3) Save & Share Yahoo! BuzzYahoo! Newsvine del.icio.us Facebook Google Reddit Fark
Manu Ginobili's Halloween run-in with a bat made for entertaining news fodder for a few days. Ginobili, however, isn't laughing anymore.

Team officials could not locate the bat after Saturday's game against Sacramento, so it could not be tested for disease. Which meant Ginobili will spend the next month getting a series of precautionary shots to protect against rabies.

"It was pretty funny at the time," Ginobili said before practice this afternoon. "Now, it's not. I have to get like a million shots."

According to the Center for Disease Control, only a small percentage of bats carry the rabies virus. Ginobili took four injections Sunday, in the arm and hip, and is scheduled for four more sessions over the next month.

Ginobili has shown no symptoms of the disease, and was expected to practice as normal this afternoon.

If he learned anything from the ordeal, it's that it's all fun and games until someone needs a rabies shot.

"It wasn't so much fun," Ginobili said. "The bat survived. I'm fine. I'm not going to have rabies. The bat won."
http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/courtside/2009/11/rabies-shots-fo.html

That bat should be included in TOP 10 most wanted, we need his words for Intl Media.

:rolleyes

JudynTX
11-03-2009, 09:16 AM
Ouch! :(

DAF86
11-03-2009, 12:59 PM
what are you talking about ? Ducks always tries to bash manu, whatever the situation. It's not a manu vs parker thing here, you're the one bringing that.

:lol

boutons_deux
11-03-2009, 01:20 PM
Manu world famous:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/other_sports/basketball/8339506.stm

duncan228
11-03-2009, 03:27 PM
Worst Manu pass ever (http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/buckharvey/2009/11/worst-manu-pass-ever.html)
By Buck Harvey

So you're working as an usher at a Spurs game. You're not making much money, but you enjoy the job, especially the front-row view in the AT&T Center.

Suddenly Manu Ginobili is running toward you to hand you something.

You take what he gives you because, well, he's Manu.

Only now do you realize what he's given you.

Ginobili has already begun a series of precautionary shots to protect against rabies. This will take about a month to complete, which is one reason Ginobili tried to talk doctors out of the treatment.

Another reason: He doesn't like needles.

There were no signs on his left hand of either a bite or an abrasion, but that didn't matter. There's always a chance through any contact. After hearing that, Ginobili understood.

But this wasn't about just him. Anyone who handled the dazed bat was vulnerable, and forgotten in this episode is the usher who received the worst pass of Ginobili's career.

"He's on my to-do list today," said someone on the Spurs medical staff. "We will put him in contact with public health officials."

So you are the usher, and you hear Ginobili say, "It was pretty funny at the time, and now it's not."

And you couldn't agree more.

kobyz
11-03-2009, 05:40 PM
they coulden't do a Rabies test to the bat and save the Rabies shots for Manu?

jalberto
11-03-2009, 05:51 PM
NO. the bat disappeared

Ludovician
11-03-2009, 07:13 PM
I have no idea why Manu is getting so many shots. I woke up with a bat in my home a few months ago and underwent the full regimen as advised by the CDC. It's two shots on the initial day of treatment (Immunoglobulin plus Day 0 of the vaccine), and then three additional vaccinations on Days 3, 7, and 14.

If you make it through the treatment there's a 0% chance of dying from rabies, so everyone calm down.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
11-03-2009, 11:27 PM
I stand corrected on the effectiveness of sanitizers.

However, I still believe that in this particular situation Manu would have known if he'd been bitten.

ducks
11-03-2009, 11:30 PM
amazing how the manu homers are trying to make this a manu vs tony thread
not
they think manu can do no wrong even though he admitted it was STUPID

Manu'sMagicalLeftHand
11-03-2009, 11:43 PM
http://loudounlady.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/pot-kettle-black.jpg

mando6599
11-03-2009, 11:56 PM
We need a good and funny wallpaper with a rabid Manu dunking or something like that. Where's Jalberto?


mando

lurker23
11-04-2009, 12:04 AM
the bat was (sadly) probably tossed in a dumpster by an employee who either thought it was dead or didn't know what to do in the situation (there's no entry under "Manu swats bat!" in the orientation manual, I'm sure), and now we can all move on with our lives. :tu :lmao

I think it's time to update the orientation manual. :) While we're at it, we can add other plausible necessities such as, "Where to get an emergency halftime sub for Matt Bonner," "Emergency escape routes to get Tony and Eva away from the paparazzi," and "What to do when DeJuan Blair hands you Hasheem Thabeet's arm."

phyzik
11-04-2009, 12:16 AM
amazing how the manu homers are trying to make this a manu vs tony thread
not
they think manu can do no wrong even though he admitted it was STUPID

The problem that people have with you is that if it was Tony, you would be all over his cock like a fly on shit. It's not so much Manu homers as it is one Manu Hater.... you constantly discredit him despite his contributions to the team, thats where the hate comes from when it comes to your ignorant ass. You constantly search for a reason to hate him, instead of crediting him for what he does bring, and thats just fucking sad.

It's time to stop playing the role of a Manu hater, at this point your hate is so rediculous its obvious that you just do it to keep up your little spiel act. It's getting old Ducks.... going on 3 years now.... move the fuck on. If Tpark can do it from his wagon jumping rant and still be accepted here, so can you.... Maybe.

DAF86
11-04-2009, 01:57 AM
amazing how the manu homers are trying to make this a manu vs tony thread
not
they think manu can do no wrong even though he admitted it was stupid

l
o
l

Kori Ellis
11-04-2009, 02:12 AM
The problem that people have with you is that if it was Tony, you would be all over his cock like a fly on shit. It's not so much Manu homers as it is one Manu Hater.... you constantly discredit him despite his contributions to the team, thats where the hate comes from when it comes to your ignorant ass. You constantly search for a reason to hate him, instead of crediting him for what he does bring, and thats just fucking sad.

It's time to stop playing the role of a Manu hater, at this point your hate is so rediculous its obvious that you just do it to keep up your little spiel act. It's getting old Ducks.... going on 3 years now.... move the fuck on. If Tpark can do it from his wagon jumping rant and still be accepted here, so can you.... Maybe.

Oh it's been much longer than three years. ducks has been bashing Manu long before even liking Tony. I think he actually only praises Tony to piss off people who love Manu.

I'm not sure what Manu ever did to ducks, but he has the same hatred for LeBron and Bill Gates. :lol

RuffnReadyOzStyle
11-04-2009, 03:56 AM
I think it's time to update the orientation manual. :) While we're at it, we can add other plausible necessities such as, "Where to get an emergency halftime sub for Matt Bonner," "Emergency escape routes to get Tony and Eva away from the paparazzi," and "What to do when DeJuan Blair hands you Hasheem Thabeet's arm."

That's the spirit! :lol

spursdotcom, need to hire some consultants? ;) :lmao

WalterBenitez
11-04-2009, 08:01 AM
i think Manu with rabies would be awesome to watch!

Oh Yeah ... when do we play with Mavs :eyebrows