Undefeated Teams

[Xylus]

Five NBA teams left without a loss:

Denver
Orlando
Boston
Phoenix
Miami

And all five face off against various opponents tonight:

Orlando (3-0) @ Detroit (1-2)
Phoenix (3-0) @ Miami (3-0)
Boston (4-0) @ Philadelphia (2-1)
Denver (3-0) @ Indiana (0-2)

Which one loses first?

[badfish22]

phoenix

[Xylus]

Either Miami or Phoenix has to lose, so yeah... those are probably safe guesses.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

phoenix


Hey you know what fuck you:

http://z.about.com/d/phoenix/1/0/O/_/2/gettydragic.jpg

[Trainwreck2100]

phoenix is having too much fun to lose tonight, the answer is orlando

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Obviously it'll be Phoenix or Miami since the other 3 teams play mediocre opponents.

If I had to guess I'd say Miami wins only cause it's in Miami and they gave the Suns fits last year. I don't think they're that much better than Phoenix, if at all.

[Xylus]

The Pistons could give the Magic fits if they play well enough. Then again, I think Rip Hamilton is out for tonight...

[Allanon]

Miami and Denver going down tonight.

[Morg1411]

Phoenix will lose in Miami. All others remain undefeated.

(I figure Denver has a 50/50 shot of fucking up in Indiana tonight, so I'll do the foolish thing and give them the benefit of the doubt.)

[HarlemHeat37]

I'm gonna go with Miami losing tonight..

[da_suns_fan]

So Miami turns Shaq into Marion into Jermaine Oneal.

The Suns turn Marion into Shaq into Ben Wallace into buyout.

I'd say Miami came out the victors in THAT trade. The Suns are essentially paying for Miami's 2006 championship.

Fucking idiots.

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

Orlando

[Finperro]

Hey you know what fuck you:

http://z.about.com/d/phoenix/1/0/O/_/2/gettydragic.jpg
LOL son this white little boy isn't his mom, who's the only person having ever fucked him, or "get fucked by him".

[Chieflion]

Pheonix loses and Dwyane Wade and the suddenly newly revived Jermaine O'Neal + rehabbed Michael Beasley will shred through Pheonix's non-existent defense.

[Xylus]

Pheonix loses and Dwyane Wade and the suddenly newly revived Jermaine O'Neal + rehabbed Michael Beasley will shred through Pheonix's non-existent defense.

12th in the league in defensive efficiency (http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/teamstats?sort=defeff&seasonType=2&league=nba&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba %2fhollinger%2fteamstats%3fsort%3ddefeff%26seasonT ype%3d2%26league%3dnba) so far. Not great, but certainly not non-existant. San Antonio is 11th.

[Chieflion]

12th in the league in defensive efficiency (http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/teamstats?sort=defeff&seasonType=2&league=nba&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba %2fhollinger%2fteamstats%3fsort%3ddefeff%26seasonT ype%3d2%26league%3dnba) so far. Not great, but certainly not non-existant. San Antonio is 11th.
The stats are there. Can't argue with that but we all know Jason Richardson and Barbosa are going to have a hard time keeping up with Wade.

[Xylus]

The stats are there. Can't argue with that but we all know Jason Richardson and Barbosa are going to have a hard time keeping up with Wade.

Of course, but he's Dwyane Wade. Very few guys can keep up with him. :lol

I'm not worried so much about Wade and O'Neal, as much as I am about the role players. If QRich and Beasley are doing damage, then we'll have a problem.

[Xylus]

Nuggets and Celtics have jumped out to early 1st quarter leads. Nuggets are already ahead, 30-13.

[Chieflion]

LOL Cavs, championship contender? They look like playoff fodder to me.

[Jeremy]

Suns are now one of only 3 undefeated teams!

Is it just me, or are the undefeated teams and, for that matter, winless teams disappearing faster than usual? Only 3 of each left already, a week into the season.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Nuggets should be 1 of 2 teams left standing in a couple of days, assuming they dont choke in New Jersey

Suns vs the Magic and then the Celtics, so obviously the Suns or Celtics will have one loss after that match.

[HarlemHeat37]

So do I win anything for my prediction?..

[21_Blessings]

Phoenix is so much better without Shaq. This is like DoK's nightmare.

[024]

damn, who can stop the celtics' warpath? they still won by 30 against a playoff team despite pierce, allen, and garnett combining for a whopping 29 points.

[DPG21920]

Phoenix is so much better without Shaq. This is like DoK's nightmare.

They are better win's wise, but DOK does not care about that. They aren't any better with regards to winning a title, and they had to try something.

[21_Blessings]

They are better win's wise, but DOK does not care about that. They aren't any better with regards to winning a title, and they had to try something.

They would have won in 2007 if Donaghy and Stern didn't fuck them.

[DPG21920]

They would have won in 2007 if Donaghy and Stern didn't fuck them.

Well they didn't and they had to try something.

[Allanon]

I hope they stay undefeated until we meet them.

I'd love to see this but the Lakers don't play those green bitches until the end of January.

I can't wish them that good of fortune.

[VivaPopovich]

Boston will remain undefeated for the longest

Will win the eastern conference for sure

[eyeh8u]

didnt boston start out like this last year? and look where it got them

[HarlemHeat37]

They also started off like this the year before, and look where that got them..

[DPG21920]

They did lose amare ^.

I don't think the Suns are very good. Sure, on any night when you have Nash/Amare you can beat any team, but I don't think a single team in the league is worried about them.

[Trainwreck2100]

phoenix is having too much fun to lose tonight, the answer is orlando

i fuckin told you fuckers

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Obviously it'll be Phoenix or Miami since the other 3 teams play mediocre opponents.

If I had to guess I'd say Miami wins only cause it's in Miami and they gave the Suns fits last year. I don't think they're that much better than Phoenix, if at all.


I'm gonna just keep predicting the Suns are gonna lose, it seems to be working :hat

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Phoenix is so much better without Shaq. This is like DoK's nightmare.


I care a lot more about the Suns being good than I do about being right. I'll gladly be proven wrong in this situation.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

They did lose amare ^.

I don't think the Suns are very good. Sure, on any night when you have Nash/Amare you can beat any team, but I don't think a single team in the league is worried about them.

They're good enough to stay relevant and remain respectable, this season that's all I can realistically expect.

[mogrovejo]

Out of the next 10 games, the most dangerous ones for Boston will be Utah or Orlando. I'm not worried about Phoenix, they'd need to be incredibly hot from the 3 pt line to beat the Cs. We play a lot of up-tempo teams though (Suns, Pacers, Warriors, 76ers, Hawks) and that means some trouble.

The Suns schedule is ridiculously difficult. They have little chance of being the last team undefeated. If they go 6-4 in the next 10 games it'd already be good for them.

If the Nuggets survive the Hawks and the Bucks, I can see them being the last team undefeated and starting with some ridiculous record, 18-2, or so. I think they'll drop at least one game in this trip, so my money is on the Cs.

[Allanon]

So much for Denver losing, but at least the Suns kept the fun alive.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Watching the game right now, I'm awed at how much looser the team looks. As much as I liked Shaq it's pretty clear how much better the team chemistry is. Granted the player's main objective should be to win (not to "have fun"), it's not a good thing when someone's stomach turns driving to the game every night cause they hate being around a certain player. Peace Shaq, you did a great job making me forget what Steve Nash is capable of.

[Morg1411]

Hot damn, Suns pulled out a good win tonight. Orlando still can't fucking beat Detroit. Denver bent Indiana over and raped them....but not nearly as bad as Boston raped Philly.

And then there were 3...

[Xylus]

Didn't think the Suns were gonna win tonight. It had all the makings of one of those horrible letdown games where the Suns don't really seem to have their hearts in it.

...Then the Suns came alive in the 2nd half, and I remembered this isn't the '08-'09 team anymore. They did the same shit to the Clippers a week ago; made 'em think they had the game in hand and took it away in the 4th quarter. Haven't seen the Suns play with this kind of passion on both ends of the floor since 2007.

Annnnyway...

Phoenix (4-0) @ Orlando (3-1)
Denver (4-0) @ New Jersey (0-4)
Boston (5-0) @ Minnesota (1-3)

All three teams are on the road, and on the 2nd game of back-to-backs. The Suns obviously have the stiffest competition, but Orlando is also on the 2nd of a back-to-back. Could get interesting with both teams bombing away from outside the arc.

[Allanon]

Didn't think the Suns were gonna win tonight. It had all the makings of one of those horrible letdown games where the Suns don't really seem to have their hearts in it.

...Then the Suns came alive in the 2nd half, and I remembered this isn't the '08-'09 team anymore. They did the same shit to the Clippers a week ago; made 'em think they had the game in hand and took it away in the 4th quarter. Haven't seen the Suns play with this kind of passion on both ends of the floor since 2007.

Annnnyway...

Phoenix (4-0) @ Orlando (3-1)
Denver (4-0) @ New Jersey (0-4)
Boston (5-0) @ Minnesota (1-3)

All three teams are on the road, and on the 2nd game of back-to-backs. The Suns obviously have the stiffest competition, but Orlando is also on the 2nd of a back-to-back. Could get interesting with both teams bombing away from outside the arc.

Orlando's going to be pissed after losing tonight to the Pistons.

But more importantly, Friday Nov 6 @ Boston then the Wizards on Sunday.

Brutal stretch.

I don't care that the Suns are in the Pacific Divison, I'm rooting for them to have fun at the Celtics expense.

[Xylus]

The Suns have an absolutely awful stretch of games this month:

@Miami - W
@Orlando
@Boston
@Washington
@Philadelphia
New Orleans
@LA Lakers
Toronto
@Houston
@New Orleans
Detroit

Those are the next ten games, with the 2nd of back-to-backs bolded. Hopefully they get a good rhythm going on this road trip, or else they could end up on a massive losing streak.

What's scary is that December is even worse...

[Allanon]

The Suns have an absolutely awful stretch of games this month:

@Miami
@Orlando
@Boston
@Washington
@Philadelphia
New Orleans
@LA Lakers
Toronto
@Houston
@New Orleans
Detroit

Those are the next ten games, with the 2nd of back-to-backs bolded.

That's 11 Playoff/fringe Playoff teams in a row not to mention 8 roadies. Ouch. :lol

[Xylus]

Needless to say, we need all the wins we can get in the early going. :lmao

[sook]

They would have won in 2007 if Donaghy and Stern didn't fuck them.

Even though SA is a lot easier for me to root for than Phoenix, i gotta admit they were guaranteed the title that year with the sacrificial lamb cavaliers coming out of the east

[TwinTowers]

Two undefeated teams left. Boston should get their 7th W playing at home against the Suns, Don't see Denver winning against Miami

[Culburn369]

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Game Projection Nuggets stay unbeaten!
PTS Denver Nuggets (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=den) 101.8 Miami Heat (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=mia) 99.7
Projected High-Scorer
Dwyane Wade (MIA) 29.3 pts
Live Betting Predictions
Point Spread AccuScore Probability Denver Nuggets +1 54.7% Miami Heat -1 41.5% Over / Under AccuScore Probability OVR 202.5 48.2% UND 202.5 51.7% Money Line AccuScore Probability Denver Nuggets +100 54.7% Miami Heat -110 45.2%

TEAM WIN % PTS BIG WIN CLOSE WIN den 54.7% 101.8 28.0% 11.8% mia 45.2% 99.7 16.8% 12.6% Big Win is by 10 or more pts; Close Win is by 4 or less pts.


AccuScore Winning Percentage
AccuScore simulated this game over 10,000 times

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Denver Nuggets
Miami Heat

54.7%

45.2%




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Denver Nuggets
Forecasts PTS FGM FGA FG% FTM FTA FT% 3PM 3PA AST STL TO OREB TREB BLK Carmelo Anthony 28.6 10.9 25.8 42% 6.2 7.8 80% 0.5 1.1 3.0 0.7 2.8 1.9 7.5 0.3 Chauncey Billups 18.1 5.5 12.0 46% 4.9 5.3 91% 2.2 4.9 6.3 0.7 2.1 0.4 3.4 0.2 Nene Hilario 13.8 5.1 9.1 57% 3.6 5.1 70% 0.0 0.0 1.7 1.0 2.0 2.4 8.5 1.1 Kenyon Martin 12.0 5.0 10.2 49% 1.8 2.9 61% 0.2 0.4 2.3 0.8 1.8 1.6 7.2 1.0 Ty Lawson 9.3 3.5 7.8 44% 1.5 2.0 73% 1.0 2.4 4.7 0.8 1.7 0.5 3.2 0.2 Arron Afflalo 6.3 2.3 5.4 43% 1.1 1.3 81% 0.6 1.6 1.1 0.5 0.8 0.5 2.6 0.2 Chris Andersen 5.8 2.1 3.9 53% 1.6 2.0 76% 0.0 0.1 0.4 0.5 0.7 1.9 6.8 1.7 Joey Graham 3.7 1.4 3.2 45% 0.8 1.0 84% 0.0 0.1 0.3 0.5 0.4 0.5 2.0 0.1 Anthony Carter 3.7 1.5 3.5 44% 0.3 0.4 74% 0.3 1.0 2.1 0.7 0.7 0.3 2.1 0.2 DEN Benchwarmers 0.5 0.2 0.6 40% 0.1 0.1 66% 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.5 0.1 TOTAL 101.8 37.6 81.5 46% 21.7 28.0 78% 4.8 11.7 22.0 6.3 12.9 10.2 43.8 5.0
Miami Heat
Forecasts PTS FGM FGA FG% FTM FTA FT% 3PM 3PA AST STL TO OREB TREB BLK Dwyane Wade 29.3 9.8 20.7 47% 8.8 11.4 77% 1.0 3.2 7.4 1.9 4.2 1.1 5.2 1.1 Michael Beasley 14.0 5.1 11.7 44% 3.4 4.2 82% 0.3 1.1 1.1 0.6 2.0 1.8 7.5 0.7 Jermaine O'Neal 11.7 4.5 9.2 49% 2.7 3.4 79% 0.0 0.0 1.8 0.4 2.0 1.6 6.5 1.9 Udonis Haslem 10.2 4.1 8.5 49% 1.9 2.5 77% 0.0 0.0 1.4 0.5 1.3 2.2 9.0 0.3 Mario Chalmers 9.7 3.3 7.4 44% 1.8 2.3 80% 1.3 3.4 4.5 2.5 1.9 0.4 2.7 0.1 Daequan Cook 8.7 3.0 8.3 37% 1.0 1.2 84% 1.6 4.5 1.2 0.4 1.2 0.3 3.1 0.2 Quentin Richardson 7.9 2.9 7.2 40% 0.9 1.2 78% 1.2 3.3 1.6 0.8 1.0 1.0 4.8 0.1 Chris Quinn 2.3 0.9 1.9 44% 0.2 0.3 90% 0.4 0.9 0.5 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.5 0.0 Dorell Wright 1.7 0.8 1.5 52% 0.1 0.1 82% 0.1 0.1 0.2 0.1 0.1 0.2 0.8 0.2 Carlos Arroyo 1.6 0.7 1.6 41% 0.2 0.2 74% 0.2 0.5 0.4 0.2 0.2 0.1 0.3 0.0 MIA Benchwarmers 1.5 0.6 1.4 45% 0.2 0.3 72% 0.1 0.2 0.2 0.1 0.2 0.5 1.2 0.4 Jamaal Magloire 0.9 0.4 0.9 46% 0.1 0.2 50% 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.4 1.1 0.1

[mogrovejo]

Out of the next 10 games, the most dangerous ones for Boston will be Utah or Orlando. I'm not worried about Phoenix, they'd need to be incredibly hot from the 3 pt line to beat the Cs. We play a lot of up-tempo teams though (Suns, Pacers, Warriors, 76ers, Hawks) and that means some trouble.

The Suns schedule is ridiculously difficult. They have little chance of being the last team undefeated. If they go 6-4 in the next 10 games it'd already be good for them.

If the Nuggets survive the Hawks and the Bucks, I can see them being the last team undefeated and starting with some ridiculous record, 18-2, or so. I think they'll drop at least one game in this trip, so my money is on the Cs.

83%, 5-6, at the start of the 2nd. Disgusting. Now I'm a bit worried. Hopefully they'll get cold at some point.

[Allanon]

Bye-Bye Nuggz.

[Xylus]

No more undefeated teams! Congratulations to the Nuggets and Celtics for being the last ones to fall.