Shooting at FT. Hood

[Dr. Gonzo]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33678801/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

BREAKING NEWS
msnbc.com news services
updated 7 minutes ago

At lease seven people are dead and 12 wounded in a shooting at Fort Hood in Texas, the base's the public affairs office told NBC News on Thursday.
The official would not give his name nor additional details. It was unknown whether victims are soldiers or civilians. One gunman was reportedly in custody and another was on the loose, NBC News said.
The base was reportedly on lockdown.

[angel_luv]

How awful. Prayers go out for everyone having to deal with that.

[mrsmaalox]

OMG how horrible.

[Fpoonsie]

Tha fuck?

Wow. I, uh...

[Spursfan092120]

Damn...my best friend was stationed there before he got out. One of his buddies was in the group that got Saddam.

[mrsmaalox]

My husband is a psychiatrist there. He's okay. :tu

[I. Hustle]

Holy crap dude. My family lives in Temple. My brother WAS stationed there recently.

[Dr. Gonzo]

http://www.kxxv.com/global/story.asp?s=11451553

They have a few updates there about school lock downs and such for people that have people there.

[JudynTX]

My husband is a psychiatrist there. He's okay. :tu

That's good.

Prayers go out to the victim's families.

[monosylab1k]

Wow that sucks. My dad used to work there as a civilian, we lived right nearby in Killeen.

[Spursfan092120]

My prayers go out to all who are there, and whose families are there.

[stretch]

horrible...

[balli]

Crazy. I just read that up to three gunmen opened fire on the MP SWAT team while a graduation ceremony was taking place. God help the affected.

[Melmart1]

I never thought I would be glad that my brother is in Iraq, but for just a second I was glad, cus Ft. Hood is where he is stationed. Now back to being upset he is over there. Bah!

[I. Hustle]

I never thought I would be glad that my brother is in Iraq, but for just a second I was glad, cus Ft. Hood is where he is stationed. Now back to being upset he is over there. Bah!

The exact same goes for me.

[tlongII]

That is some effed up shit. I wonder what precipitated this? My thoughts go out to the families of the dead and injured.

[JudynTX]

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream1

[AussieFanKurt]

Ahh shit, thats a pity
I'm thankful we dont have shootings on a big scale ever. Only one in about last 100 years

[Crookshanks]

They don't have a lot of information yet. There may have been 3 shooters - one is in custody. The shooters were in uniform and the shooting took place at the place where new soldiers report in to do their paperwork.

7 people are dead and 20 injured. They are speculating the shooters just recently came back from being deployed and just went kinda crazy.

[Bukefal]

I just saw it here on the news. That's bad..

[Texas Chili Dog]

I have a friend and older cousin (who is like a brother to me) there. I am freaking out right now. oh fuck oh fuck

[Trainwreck2100]

damn Activision really is pulling out all the stops

[StylisticS]

2nd damn mass shooting for this region in the last 20 years. I grew up there and I know exactly where it happened. Anybody that lived there knows that the Sports Dome was at times the center for some large parties. Very shocked to hear about this.

[Bender]

I'm thankful we dont have shootings on a big scale ever. Only one in about last 100 years didn't the aussie gov't make everybody turn in their guns, like Britain?

I'm sure all the aussie bad guys turned theirs in...

[JudynTX]

12 dead, 31 injured so far? :(

[katyon6th]

That's what I just heard, PS. And they're suspecting the shooters are military themselves?

[I. Hustle]

I have a friend and older cousin (who is like a brother to me) there. I am freaking out right now. oh fuck oh fuck

Dude, that sucks. Keep us updated though to know they are ok.

[CosmicCowboy]

A senior administration official told NBC News analyst Roger Cressey that the suspect who was in custody was an Army major with an Arabic-sounding name.

[Dr. Gonzo]

A senior administration official told NBC News analyst Roger Cressey that the suspect who was in custody was an Army major with an Arabic-sounding name.

Damn terrorists!

[BacktoBasics]

Fox has been all over the terrorist angle.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Fox has been all over the terrorist angle.

Have they blamed Obama yet?

[mrsmaalox]

Yes, my "inside source" called it domestic terrorism from the beginning. Not a psych patient.

[BacktoBasics]

Have they blamed Obama yet?Rush will tomorrow. Book it.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

What a fucking nightmare.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

What jackasses.

[Shelly]

Horrible!

Glad your husband is safe, Mrs. M!

[mrsmaalox]

Wowee I own a rental house that backs up to the airfield at Ft Hood, and my tenant just told me he got home to encounter a SWAT team in the backyard!


ps Thanks Shelly :)

[pkbpkb81]

I have a friend stationed there and his wife and two step daughters ages 3 and 6 where on post at a play ground when two mp's ran up to them and said they had to leave because there were shooters on the lose and people had been killed....now I know they had to be blunt to get them off base but they could have said this to just the mom and not the little girls

[baseline bum]

Major Malik Nadal Hassan was the shooter, per CNN. Said to be 39 or 40 years old.

[Crookshanks]

Rush will tomorrow. Book it.
Rush won't be on the air tomorrow - Mark Steyn is filling in for him.

[Bukefal]

They say this Malik nadal hassan was a convert muslim

[BacktoBasics]

Rush won't be on the air tomorrow - Mark Steyn is filling in for him.I'm sure he'll bring it up when he gets back.


They say this Malik nadal hassan was a convert muslimIs that a big deal?

[desflood]

Is that a big deal?
If it isn't, they'll make it one.

[katyon6th]

From ABC

"The gunman used two handguns, Cone said. He wasn't sure if the shooter reloaded the weapons during the attack."


How'd he kill and injur so many people with handguns??

[Crookshanks]

I'm sure he'll bring it up when he gets back.

Is that a big deal?

It will all depend on how this story plays out. If Major Hasan just flipped out, then it's not a big deal that he's muslim. However, if it comes out these 3 planned this attack because of their muslim beliefs, it will be a big deal.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

I sense a hijack by jackasses.

[pkbpkb81]

I'm sure he'll bring it up when he gets back.

Is that a big deal?

it may not matter at all but in times like this it makes people fell better to have someone or something to blame and you bet your ass it will be that

[Crookshanks]

They said many of the victims had been airlifted to trauma centers - I wonder if any were taken to BAMC?

[mrsmaalox]

They said many of the victims had been airlifted to trauma centers - I wonder if any were taken to BAMC?

All went to Scott & White in Temple.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

They said many of the victims had been airlifted to trauma centers - I wonder if any were taken to BAMC?

Scott and white in temple.

[Crookshanks]

If any of you are in that general area - they're in desperate need of blood donations. Scott & White Memorial Hospital will have their bloodmobiles out front.

[Bukefal]

I'm sure he'll bring it up when he gets back.

Is that a big deal?

It could be. Otherwise this will be all hyped up and Arabs will be portrayed as the bad people again. The stereotype will continue. Already everyone talks about; "Oh that must be one of those arabs again." But this might just be a normal American.

I was just saying...

[tlongII]

I'm sure he'll bring it up when he gets back.

Is that a big deal?

Fuck YES it is!

[tlongII]

It could be. Otherwise this will be all hyped up and Arabs will be portrayed as the bad people again. The stereotype will continue. Already everyone talks about; "Oh that must be one of those arabs again." But this might just be a normal American.

I was just saying...

How many non-Arabic terrorists are you aware of?

[BacktoBasics]

How many non-Arabic terrorists are you aware of?
Don't be a fucking moron.

[Crookshanks]

How many non-Arabic terrorists are you aware of?

Besides Timothy McVeigh - no one comes to mind right now.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

There was the Unabomber too. Lord knows how many anti-gov militias are out in that neck of the woods. If this was part of some huge radical statement I'm sure the captured gunman will be willing to tell anyone who will listen in the coming days.

[SKINNYPIMP210]

Wow, this is a bad situation. I had to call a buddy to make sure he wasn't there. Thank God he is in San Antonio now and not Ft Hood. My thoughts and prayers to the Ft Hood family.

[mrsmaalox]

Oh great, a "mental health professional".

[Crookshanks]

Investigators are trying to determine if Malik Nadal Hasan was his birthname, or if he converted to Islam at some point and then changed his name.

[Texas Chili Dog]

Could this be his myspace? http://www.myspace.com/hasanthadon

[Crookshanks]

Oh great, a "mental health professional".

Yeah - they think he was a psychiatrist.

[SKINNYPIMP210]

Could this be his myspace? http://www.myspace.com/hasanthadon

Idk he has a pic of him in Iraq and from what the news said, the shooter did not want to go to Iraq and that was the reason he was upset. But idk much about the story, just heard about it about 30 mins ago.

[SKINNYPIMP210]

Nah his page says he's a SGT not a Major.

[easjer]

it may not matter at all but in times like this it makes people fell better to have someone or something to blame and you bet your ass it will be that

Why not just put the blame where it belongs - on the guy who shot a bunch of people up? There isn't often a good reason behind terroristic activities; it all always comes back on the person performing the action in the end.

[mrsmaalox]

Yeah - they think he was a psychiatrist.

Nope not a psychiatrist---I know that for sure. I'm hearing psychologist.

[pkbpkb81]

Why not just put the blame where it belongs - on the guy who shot a bunch of people up? There isn't often a good reason behind terroristic activities; it all always comes back on the person performing the action in the end.

I agree, but i just feel the media will go another way with it

[Crookshanks]

Nope not a psychiatrist---I know that for sure. I'm hearing psychologist.
Little bits and pieces coming out from different sources. Since you're husband is there - he's probably the most reliable source!

The difference between the two is one is an actual doctor and the other is just a highly trained counselor - is that correct?

[Crookshanks]

A source tells CBS News investigative producer Len Tepper that Hasan is a licensed psychiatrist in Bethesda, Md. He is a drug and rehab specialist who got his Virginia psychiatry license July 12, 2005.

It was not known whether he was treating people at the base.

[Shelly]

Little bits and pieces coming out from different sources. Since you're husband is there - he's probably the most reliable source!

The difference between the two is one is an actual doctor and the other is just a highly trained counselor - is that correct?

Psychiatrists are MDs

[mrsmaalox]

Little bits and pieces coming out from different sources. Since you're husband is there - he's probably the most reliable source!

The difference between the two is one is an actual doctor and the other is just a highly trained counselor - is that correct?

Yes. Also one prescribes medication and the other treats mostly with biofeedback. But I have just found out that the inpatient ward was being staffed with "backfills" (military temps) that might have not been familiar to everyone. My husband works outpatient in a clinic outside the hospital.

[tlongII]

Besides Timothy McVeigh - no one comes to mind right now.

Do you want to do a count of Arabic/Muslim terrorists vs others?

[Texas Chili Dog]

Idk he has a pic of him in Iraq and from what the news said, the shooter did not want to go to Iraq and that was the reason he was upset. But idk much about the story, just heard about it about 30 mins ago.

He might be upset that he was going to go BACK there. It would kinda suck to go back after spending time there before. Once CNN releases a pic of the guy, we'll know for sure.


Nah his page says he's a SGT not a Major.

He may not have updated his page. After all, his last login says Oct 1st.

[SKINNYPIMP210]

He might be upset that he was going to go BACK there. It would kinda suck to go back after spending time there before. Once CNN releases a pic of the guy, we'll know for sure.



He may not have updated his page. After all, his last login says Oct 1st.


Yeah it sucks over there I came back from Kirkuk, Iraq in Jan of this year. It takes awhile to get Maj so I don't think he could have made it that quick. But yeah I'm waiting for the pic myself, there was nothing on Google last time I checked. How did you find that page? Did you just look up his name?

[SKINNYPIMP210]

But yeah you're right, he could have just not have updated his page.

[SKINNYPIMP210]

Pic just came out on CNN. That's not him.

[doobs]

C'mon. SGT to Major?

One is an enlisted rank, and the other is an officer rank.

[Texas Chili Dog]

http://a.abcnews.go.com/images/Blotter/ht_hasan_hood_091105_main.jpg

[Crookshanks]

http://a.abcnews.go.com/images/Blotter/ht_hasan_hood_091105_main.jpg
Well he doesn't LOOK like a terrorist...:rolleyes

[tlongII]

He does to me...

[Crookshanks]

They've released the other two suspects - so I guess they're pretty sure he acted alone.

[SKINNYPIMP210]

They've released the other two suspects - so I guess they're pretty sure he acted alone.

Yeah they released those two. The Public Information Rep at FT Hood said they have another solider in custody as a POI.

[baseline bum]

How many non-Arabic terrorists are you aware of?

The Unabomber, the DC sniper, Tim McVeigh, and Terry Nichols come to mind.

[tlongII]

The Unabomber, the DC sniper, Tim McVeigh, and Terry Nichols come to mind.

That's 4. Do you know how many muslim terrorists have been identified?

[baseline bum]

That's 4. Do you know how many muslim terrorists have been identified?

Ok, what if I throw those 2 kids from Columbine and the guy from Va. Tech in too?

[The Reckoning]

how many non-arabic terrorists are you aware of?


IRA


and back in the day, Leon Czolgosz

[doobs]

The Unabomber, the DC sniper, Tim McVeigh, and Terry Nichols come to mind.

While not Arab, the DC sniper was a Muslim and his little protege said he was sympathetic to bin Laden.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Sorry to hear about this, very sad news.


How many non-Arabic terrorists are you aware of?


Do you want to do a count of Arabic/Muslim terrorists vs others?

You are Rush Limbaugh-level poisonous and retarded. Terrorists come in all shapes, sizes, colours and creeds. How about the IRA? How about the Basque Seperatisits? How about the KKK? How about the anti-Maoist Buddhist terrorists of the 50s? And that's just straight off the top of my head.

You don't know a fucking thing about what you are talking about. Why don't you wait until the full story comes out and stop spreading inflammatory, unsubstantiated bullshit... what are you FOX news? :rolleyes

[clambake]

IRA


and back in the day, Leon Czolgosz

tell us all you know about the ira.

[Spurminator]

Well he doesn't LOOK like a terrorist...:rolleyes

What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

[The Reckoning]

tell us all you know about the ira.

i know it was considered a terrorist organization by the US govt until 2000 when they decided to switch from a militaristic to a diplomatic approach.

terrorist is a broad term and me calling them a terrorist organization does not necessarily reflect my own opinion but that of the US govt, which has its own "definition" of terrorist groups - and surprise, surprise, they aren't all arabs.

[tlongII]

Sorry to hear about this, very sad news.





You are Rush Limbaugh-level poisonous and retarded. Terrorists come in all shapes, sizes, colours and creeds. How about the IRA? How about the Basque Seperatisits? How about the KKK? How about the anti-Maoist Buddhist terrorists of the 50s? And that's just straight off the top of my head.

You don't know a fucking thing about what you are talking about. Why don't you wait until the full story comes out and stop spreading inflammatory, unsubstantiated bullshit... what are you FOX news? :rolleyes



I'll just let the news play out you tool. You're fucking clueless.

[The Reckoning]

tell us all you know about the ira.


now tell us all you know about the ira.

are you the official ira ambassador to the dallas mavericks?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I'll just let the news play out you tool. You're fucking clueless.

Why? Because I answered your question off the top of my head and proved you to be incorrect? :rolleyes Terrorism is a HUMAN trait and has been going back thousands of years, it is not restricted to Muslims.

You clearly haven't let the news play out given that you've already made 3 posts suggesting that this guy is an Islamic terrorist without any substantiation whatsoever.

[MannyIsGod]

How many non-Arabic terrorists are you aware of?


Besides Timothy McVeigh - no one comes to mind right now.

Depends on what part of the world you're talking about. There are plenty of non-Arabic terrorists all over the world. In fact, I'm not even sure if the majority of Muslim terrorists are Arabic. Was this guy Arabic? I haven't looked yet.

In any event, I think you were equating being Muslim with being Arabic but even then there are a lot of terrorists around the world who are not Muslim.

[clambake]

i know it was considered a terrorist organization by the US govt until 2000 when they decided to switch from a militaristic to a diplomatic approach.

terrorist is a broad term and me calling them a terrorist organization does not necessarily reflect my own opinion but that of the US govt, which has its own "definition" of terrorist groups - and surprise, surprise, they aren't all arabs.

that is a well thought and worded description of how that label was attached to people willing to die for irelands freedom.

and the wheels of diplomacy were turning long before 2000. lots of conflicting ideals had to be merged.

[MannyIsGod]

Do you want to do a count of Arabic/Muslim terrorists vs others?

Lets do that tlong. How familiar are you with terrorism around the world? I'd like to see the figures you come up with.

[MannyIsGod]

I'll just let the news play out you tool. You're fucking clueless.

Oh now you want to let the news play out? Actually I'd like to hear how many terrorists are identified as Muslim opposed to those who are not Muslim.

[The Reckoning]

that is a well thought and worded description of how that label was attached to people willing to die for irelands freedom.

and the wheels of diplomacy were turning long before 2000. lots of conflicting ideals had to be merged.


yeah and we both know that the pen is mightier than the sword in context of dismantling british imperialism in the 20th-21st century.

[Cyrano]

http://www.vahealthprovider.com/results_generalinfo.asp?License_No=0101238630

here's his medical licensing information. It appears that he was born in Jordan, and got his bachelor's degree in Virginia and his M.D. in Bethesda, Md. He spent six years at Walter Reed, and was just promoted to Major in May.

[tlongII]

This is a list of designated terrorist organizations by national governments and inter-governmental organizations, where the proscription has a significant impact on the group's activities. Many organizations that are accused of being a terrorist organization deny using terrorism as a military tactic to achieve their goals, and there is no international consensus on the legal definition of terrorism.

This listing does not include states or governmental organizations, which are considered under state terrorism, or unaffiliated individuals accused of terrorism, which are considered under lone wolf terrorism. This list also excludes groups that might be widely considered terrorist, but who are not officially so designated according to the criteria specified above.

Abu Nidal Organization
Abu Sayyaf Group
Achik National Volunteer Council
Akhil Bharat Nepali Ekta Samaj
Al-Aqsa e.V.
Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade
Al-Badr
Al Ghurabaa
al-Haramain Foundation
Al Ittihad Al Islamia
al-Qa'ida
al-Qa'ida in Iraq
al-Qaeda Organization in the Islamic Maghreb
Al-Umar-Mujahideen
All Tripura Tiger Force
Ansar al-Islam
Ansar us-Sunna
Armed Islamic Group
Asbat al-Ansar
Aum Shinrikyo
Babbar Khalsa
Babbar Khalsa International
Baluchistan Liberation Army
Communist Party of India (Maoist)
Communist Party of the Philippines/
New People's Army
Continuity Irish Republican Army
Cumann na mBan
Deendar Anjuman
Dukhtaran-E-Millat
Egyptian Islamic Jihad
Euskadi ta Askatasuna
Fatah al-Islam
Fianna na hEireann
Gama'a al-Islamiyya
GRAPO
Great Eastern Islamic Raiders' Front
Hamas [1] [2]
Harakat-ul-Jihad-ul-Islami
Harakat-ul-Jihad-ul-Islami (Bangladesh)
Harakat ul-Mujahidin
Harakat-Ul-Mujahideen/Alami
Hezb-e Islami Gulbuddin
Hezbollah [3] [4]
Hizb ut-Tahrir
Hizbul Mujahideen
Holy Land Foundation
for Relief and Development
Hynniewtrep National Liberation Council
Informal Anarchist Federation[5]
International Sikh Youth Federation
Islamic Army of Aden
Islamic Jihad — Jamaat of the Mujahideen
Islamic Jihad Union
Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan
Irish National Liberation Army
Irish People's Liberation Organisation
Irish Republican Army
Islamic Jihad Movement in Palestine
Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan
Jaish-e-Mohammed
Jamaat ul-Furquan
Jamaat-ul-Mujahideen Bangladesh
Jamiat ul-Ansar
Jamiat-e Islami
Jammu and Kashmir Islamic Front
Jemaah Islamiya
Jund Ash Sham
Kach/Kahane Chai
Kanglei Yaol Kanba Lup
Kangleipak Communist Party
Khalistan Commando Force
Khuddam ul-Islam
Kurdistan Freedom Falcons
Kurdistan Workers' Party
Lashkar-e-Toiba
Lashkar-e-Jhangvi
Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam [6] [7]
Libyan Islamic Fighting Group
Loyalist Volunteer Force
Manipur People's Liberation Front
Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group
Mujahedin-e Khalq [8]
Muslim Brotherhood
National Democratic Front of Bodoland
National Liberation Army
National Liberation Front of Tripura
Nuclei Armati per il Comunismo
Nuclei di Iniziativa Proletaria
Nuclei Territoriali Antimperialisti
Nucleo di Iniziativa Proletaria Rivoluzionaria
Orange Volunteers
Palestine Liberation Front
Palestinian Islamic Jihad
People's Congress of Ichkeria and Dagestan [9]
People's Liberation Army
People's Revolutionary Party of Kangleipak
Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine
Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-
General Command
Real IRA
Red Brigades for the construction
of the Combative Communist Party
Red Hand Commando
Red Hand Defenders
Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia
Revolutionary Nuclei
Revolutionary Organization 17 November
Revolutionary People's Front
Revolutionary People's Liberation Party/Front
Revolutionary Struggle
Saor Éire
Saviour Sect
Shining Path[10]
Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan
Social Reform Society
Society of the Revival of Islamic Heritage
Stichting Al Aqsa
Students Islamic Movement of India
Supreme Military Majlis ul-Shura of the United Mujahideen Forces of Caucasus [9]
Takfir wal-Hijra
Taliban
Tehreek-e-Nafaz-e-Shariat-e-Mohammadi
Tamil Nadu Liberation Army
Tamil National Retrieval Troops
Ulster Defence Association
Ulster Freedom Fighters
Ulster Volunteer Force
United Liberation Front of Asom
United National Liberation Front
United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia
Vanguards of Conquest
World Tamil Movement

[tlongII]

Obviously the list above is not exclusively limited to muslim terrorists groups, but it is clear that they are the vast majority.

[MannyIsGod]

Numbers of groups are not numbers of terrorists like you brought up earlier. Please do not move the goalposts YOU erected. And what constitutes a "vast majority"? I see quite a large percentage of groups on that list that have nothing to do with Muslims.

[mFFL03]

I've heard some reports that he maybe pulled this stunt to avoid being deployed.

I don't buy that.....if he wanted to not be deployed he could have just pulled a plaxico.

[makedamnsure]

um.....anyways....my prayers are with those affected by this tragedy.

[MiamiHeat]

i am sorry for the families but i don't want to hear this anymore.

so i'm out of this thread and will be ignoring all news of this incident.

[tlongII]

Numbers of groups are not numbers of terrorists like you brought up earlier. Please do not move the goalposts YOU erected. And what constitutes a "vast majority"? I see quite a large percentage of groups on that list that have nothing to do with Muslims.

That is a weak counter-argument Manny! It is logical to infer that the number of groups is relevant to the number of individuals.

[MannyIsGod]

That is a weak counter-argument Manny! It is logical to infer that the number of groups is relevant to the number of individuals.

Then prove it? Its not even a counter argument, so maybe thats why its so "weak". It simply points out that you haven't done what you said.

But like I said, if its so logical then you will be able to easily prove it.

I eagerly await your data.

[tlongII]

Then prove it? Its not even a counter argument, so maybe thats why its so "weak". It simply points out that you haven't done what you said.

But like I said, if its so logical then you will be able to easily prove it.

I eagerly await your data.

Orly? I said that the vast majority of terrorist groups were Muslim and I think that is obvious. I already gave you the data.

[tlongII]

Or maybe you want some sort of written proof that Al Queda is muslim?

[Texas Chili Dog]

They reported this guy is still alive. So why did they tell us he was dead for the last several hours?!

[Viva Las Espuelas]

um.....anyways
yeah. Times infinity plus 1.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

They reported this guy is still alive. So why did they tell us he was dead for the last several hours?!

That's the weird part. All the news people were wearing pie on their face. Maybe an attempt to see what his accomplices would do if he had any. Who knows.

[ploto]

U.S. Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan is believed to be the lone shooter of some 43 people on Fort Hood, Texas, and he survived being shot by a civilian police officer, the base commander said.

In a televised press briefing tonight, Army Lt Gen. Robert Cone corrected earlier reports that said Hasan and the police officer, who shot him several times, were killed. Rather, he said, both are recovering at a nearby hospital.

All but two of the victims are Soldiers, Cone said.

Cone confirmed the identity of Hasan, reportedly a psychiatrist on the base who was scheduled soon to deploy, but would not say more about the suspect. Hasan has been in the company of a Criminal Investigative Division officer since the midday shooting, he said.

In answer to a reporter's question, Cone said of the suspect, "I would say his death is not imminent." Hasan is not yet talking to investigators.

Three other Soldiers were initially detained for questioning, but later released. After interviewing more than 100 people at the scene, Cone said, investigators determined there was only one shooter.

While investigators haven't ruled out terrorism in the case, Cone said, the evidence doesn't suggest it.

The shooting began about 1:30 Central Time at Hood's Soldier Family Readiness Center where Cone said Soldiers from multiple units were crowded into the center for a scheduled weekly "make up time" for medical and dental appointments.

Casualties were high due to the enclosed location, but would have been much worse were it not for the training and quick reaction of the Soldiers, Cone said, adding that he was on the scene quickly after the shooting began.

"Suffice it to say...the American Soldier did a great job," he said.

From the reports of eyewitnesses, he said, the Soldiers - "many of them combat lifesavers" -- reacted instantaneously, ripping off parts of their own clothing to treat the wounded.

"I credit the first responders," he said. "God bless these Soldiers and Department of Army civilians. As horrible as this was, it could have been much worse."

Some 600 people attending a college graduation of 138 Soldiers in an adjacent building were unharmed because first responders secured the building, he said.

The suspect is believed to have used two handguns in the shooting, one a semiautomatic, Cone said. And in responding to a question, "As a matter of practice, we do not carry weapons on Fort Hood," he said. "This is our home."

However, Cone said, "We will increase our security presence here in the coming days."

The FBI is working the investigation, along with military and other law enforcement, he said. The base was on lockdown until 7 p.m., a base spokesman said.

For now, Cone said, Fort Hood officials are focused on caring for the wounded, securing the base, notifying victims' families and providing grief counseling. A family hotline is available to obtain information at 254-288-7570.

Cone, who received a call from President Barack Obama soon after the shooting, said he was grateful for an outpouring of support. "It is truly overwhelming the offers of support we have had from around the nation," the general said. "Tomorrow at Fort Hood, we return to normalcy, schools will be open."

The Central Texas base is the military's largest, covering some 340 square miles and is home to 40,000 Soldiers. And, according to its Web site, is known as "The Great Place" for its quality of life for Soldiers and their families.

http://www.army.mil/-news/2009/11/06/29927-army-major-declared-sole-suspect-in-hood-shooting/

[MannyIsGod]

How many non-Arabic terrorists are you aware of?


Do you want to do a count of Arabic/Muslim terrorists vs others?


Orly? I said that the vast majority of terrorist groups were Muslim and I think that is obvious. I already gave you the data.

No Tlong, you moved the goalposts. At the start you didn't even say Muslim terrorists, you say non-Arabic. Then you grouped them together (Arab and Muslim are too completely different things). Now you're talking about GROUPS.

[MannyIsGod]

Also - go ahead and go through your list there. Out of the 129 you have listed, I Know at least 45 or so are not Muslim and I suspect there are about another 10 or so that have Indian names and are probably not Muslim. Out of the ones that are Muslim, there are also some fucking charities on there (I believe one is even based in the United States) so I think their inclusion is rather suspect.

You may barely make a case for a majority, but I don't know how you can make a cast for a "vast" majority (which you never qualified to begin with - what is it again?).

Did you look at the list and see a bunch of funny sounding names and just assume they were all Islamic?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

From the story above:


While investigators haven't ruled out terrorism in the case, Cone said, the evidence doesn't suggest it.

So, Twank, why exactly did you bring up terrorism in relation to this case in the first place? Clearly because the guy who perpetrated the crime has an Islamic-sounding name. All your justifying posts since then have merely been covering your arse for your blatant xenophobia.