For Versus Against Health-Care Reform

[Nbadan]

Look at the list of Organizations endorsing the House health care bill. No other president ever came even close to create such a coalition. This president is 100% right in his approach that most of the time it's better to compromise in order to achieve progress, than to take the all-or-nothing attitude that never lead to anything good. This will not be a perfect reform by any mean, but it'll be something worth at least 40 years of progress, and a terrific start to build on. Passing HCR and dealing with the unemployment, can pave the way to many-many years of Democrats governing America. It's time for some to take a step back and look at the big picture.

For Healthcare reform




AARP
Advocates for Youth
AFL-CIO
AFSCME
Alliance for Children and Families
Alliance for Retired Americans
American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychology
American Academy of Family Physicians
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Association for Geriatric Psychiatry
American Association for Marriage and Family Therapy
American Association of Nurse Anesthetists
American Association of Pastoral Counselors
American Art Therapy Association
American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network
American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists
American College of Physicians
American College of Surgeons
American Counseling Association
American Group Psychotherapy Association
American Medical Student Association
American Mental Health Counselors Association
American Nurses Association
American Osteopathic Association
American Psychiatric Nurses Association
American Psychoanalytic Association
American Psychotherapy Association
American Public Health Association
Anxiety Disorders Association of America
Arc of the United States
Association for the Advancement of Psychology
Association for Ambulatory Behavioral Healthcare
Bazelon Center for Mental Health Law
Association of American Medical Colleges
Black Youth Vote
California Rural Indian Health Board (CRIHB)
Campus Progress
Center for Clinical Social Work/ABE
Center for Community Change
Children and Adults with Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder
Child Welfare League of America
Choice USA
Clinical Social Work Association
Clinical Social Work Guild 49, OPEIU
Consumers Union
Corporation for Supportive Housing
CWA
Demos
Depression and Bipolar Support Alliance
Doctors for America
Easter Seals
Eating Disorders Coalition for Research, Policy & Action
Families USA
Family Voices
Federation of American Hospitals
Forward Montana
Friends Committee on National Legislation
Generational Alliance
Health Access California
Health Care for America NOW
Health Care for America NOW – Southern Oregon Coalition
Main Street Alliance
Mental Health America
NAACP
National Alliance on Mental Illness
National Assembly on School-Based Health Care
National Association of Anorexia Nervosa and Associated Disorders-ANAD
National Association of Community Health Centers (NACHC)
National Association of Mental Health Planning and Advisory Councils
National Association of Public Hospitals and Health Systems
National Association of Social Workers
National Association of State Mental Health Program Directors
National Breast Cancer Coalition
National Coalition of Mental Health Consumer/Survivor Organizations
National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare
National Council for Community Behavioral Healthcare
National Disability Rights Network
National Education Association (NEA)
National Federation of Families for Children’s Mental Health
National Foundation for Mental Health
National Patient Advocate Foundation
National Spinal Cord Injury Association
Paralyzed Veterans of America
Rock the Vote
Service Employees International Union (SEIU)
Small Business Majority
Suicide Prevention Action Network USA, a Division of AFSP
Tourette Syndrome Association, Inc,
UAW
United Cerebral Palsy
United Methodist Church – General Board of Church and Society
United Neighborhood Centers of America
United Spinal Association
USAction
U.S. Psychiatric Rehabilitation Association
U.S. Public Interest Research Group (USPIRG)
U.S. Women’s Chamber of Commerce
Virginia Organizing Project
Voto Latino
Washington Community Action Network
Witness Justice
Young Democrats of America
Young Invincibles
18 in ‘08

Against health-care reform

The GOP
Teabaggers
birthers
and the talk-show wing-nuts

[spursncowboys]

Rock the Vote...Really. It was that important for you to have a long list that you did that?
In the against, you forgot
People that work
American Doctors Association

Do you have a link of where you got the list?

[Marcus Bryant]

Young Democrats of America

No, really?

What a stupid fucking thread.

[spursncowboys]

Look at the list of Organizations endorsing the House health care bill. No other president ever came even close to create such a coalition. This president is 100% right in his approach that most of the time it's better to compromise in order to achieve progress, than to take the all-or-nothing attitude that never lead to anything good. This will not be a perfect reform by any mean, but it'll be something worth at least 40 years of progress, and a terrific start to build on. Passing HCR and dealing with the unemployment, can pave the way to many-many years of Democrats governing America. It's time for some to take a step back and look at the big picture.

For Healthcare reform




Against health-care reform

The GOP
Teabaggers
birthers
and the talk-show wing-nuts How many aren't unions, college groups, or George Soros run?

[Winehole23]

American Doctors AssociationDo you have a link for this org? I found nothing in my own online search except Turkish-American and Chinese-American Doctors Ass'ns

[Wild Cobra]

For Healthcare reform
Groupthink type organizations

Against health-care reform

The GOP
Teabaggers
birthers
and the talk-show wing-nuts

You forgot to add people with an IQ over 95 in the against column.

[baseline bum]

You forgot to add people with an IQ over 95 in the against column.

They are decidedly absent from the four groups nbadan already listed in the against column, for sure.

[antimvp]

lets put it this way

AARP is for Seniors

The GOP is for Health Insurance Companies

what is their to argue.

again it comes down to $$$$$ vs. people

I just don't understand how the GOP can trick so many people.

[spursncowboys]

lets put it this way

AARP is for Seniors

The GOP is for Health Insurance Companies

what is their to argue.

again it comes down to $$$$$ vs. people

I just don't understand how the GOP can trick so many people.

The only peopple AARP is interested in is the ones running the DNC. The actual members of the aarp did not endorse communist healthcare, just the buerocratic aarp leadership

[antimvp]

The only peopple AARP is interested in is the ones running the DNC. The actual members of the aarp did not endorse communist healthcare, just the buerocratic aarp leadership



so when was the last time the AARP "leadership" endorsed something that would HARM their members?

:lol what a dork you are.

[antimvp]

here is another way to look at it.

6 health insurance companies have an anti-trust exemption = fascism
public-option = socialism

at least the public option helps the people

I guess you people that don't want the public option are fucking nazi's and don't even know you are defending fascism what fucking morons.

[spursncowboys]

here is another way to look at it.

6 health insurance companies have an anti-trust exemption = fascism
public-option = socialism

at least the public option helps the people

I guess you people that don't want the public option are fucking nazi's and don't even know you are defending fascism what fucking morons.

Companies cannot be fascist. Public option doesn't help cancer patients.

[101A]

Trying to "control healthcare costs" and the bill has THAT MANY doctor's groups backing it?

What would you think of Tobacco regulations that had the support of RJ Reynolds, or gun laws that had the backing of Smith and Wesson?

Dupe.

[spursncowboys]

Still no link to any of these legitimate groups endorsing public option.

[coyotes_geek]

How completely not surprising that the normal blue team puppets are for this. Great thread.

[DarrinS]

EVERYONE is FOR some sort of heath care reform. Some of us are just against a full government takeover and susequent fuckupance.

[coyotes_geek]

EVERYONE is FOR some sort of heath care reform. Some of us are just against a full government takeover and susequent fuckupance.

Exactly. Spending trillions of dollars on another government bureaucracy isn't going to solve this problem.

[antimvp]

Companies cannot be fascist. Public option doesn't help cancer patients.


fuckhead

companies that get special treatment from the government is the very definition of fascism are you a complete dumbass or what.

[spursncowboys]

fuckhead

companies that get special treatment from the government is the very definition of fascism are you a complete dumbass or what.

You are the dumbass that is blaming a co.
Companies are supposed to make a profit. If buying a lobbyist to give them special priviledge gives them a better profit-good for them. It is the govt. screwing the people, not the co. If the problem is our elected officials are abusing their power, why give them more?

“The most basic question is not what is best, but who shall decide what is best” Thomas Sowell

[Marcus Bryant]

Trying to "control healthcare costs" and the bill has THAT MANY doctor's groups backing it?

What would you think of Tobacco regulations that had the support of RJ Reynolds, or gun laws that had the backing of Smith and Wesson?

Dupe.

Right. A decade from now we'll be having the same exact "public debate" about this. When policy is shaped by "stakeholders" then you end up not addressing the problem, but rather doubling down on the current arrangement.

Instead of questioning why virtually all individual medical expenditures are paid in part or full through third party payers or why health insurance is typically tied to employment, those matters are taken as a given.

This plan isn't so much pure "socialism" as it is corporatism, though achieved by extending the existing socialistic arrangements in place. Of course, there was no socialism, but rather laissez faire tranquility, in place prior to January of 2009.

[spursncowboys]

this plan isn't so much pure "socialism" as it is corporatism,

+1

[Winehole23]

Any word on the American Doctors Association, SnC?

[ElNono]

Those lists are actually counter-productive. You know they had to give up something that screws consumers to each one on that list. The longer the list, the worse it is.

[101A]

Those lists are actually counter-productive. You know they had to give up something that screws consumers to each one on that list. The longer the list, the worse it is.


...then they have to spread pork to get the votes.....

ain't democracy grand?

[EmptyMan]

lol at people incapable of seeing the big picture laughing their asses off at how the gop is apparently able to "trick so many people".

[Winehole23]

lol at people incapable of seeing the big picture laughing their asses off at how the gop is apparently able to "trick so many people".I guess big picture guys like you clown on the whole thread without saying anything at all about the big picture, or acknowledging the posters who did. :hat

[antimvp]

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[DarrinS]

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Are you going to post this video in every unrelated thread?

[Winehole23]

I don't see why you shouldn't encourage him, Darrin. It's an unconscious homage to your own MO.

[admiralsnackbar]

In the against, you forgot
People that work

not 55% of them, give or take.


American Doctors Association

You must mean the American Medical Assn (AMA) . They support (http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/health-system-reform/ama-supports-house-bills.shtml) the bill.