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mosdef17
11-06-2009, 08:42 AM
I'm really sick of logging on here following a Spurs loss to find a lot of the Spurs fans on this forum complaining about the team and about our hall of fame coach. We suffer our SECOND loss of the season and people are proclaiming that "the Spurs suck", "RJ sucks". Does anyone realize how hard it is for a player to join a new team? Not to mention one that is used to scoring 17-20ppg and being the the 1st or 2nd option on his team and having to readjust his game after 8 seasons in the NBA? Not only is he trying to readjust his game, he is trying to learn a new system at the same time. Give the guy a break. I'm STILL happy he is here, we will need him when it counts.

May I remind the Spurs fans on this forum that the Spurs last season began 0-3. We then went on to a record of 2-5 including losses to Miami, Phoenix and even the freaking Bucks. We then went on to a 54-28 season despite all the injuries we had. It is nonsensical to expect the Spurs to make these changes and not have any sort of transition period where the players get accustomed to playing with each other in the rotation, especially when 30% of the guys would still be really sketchy on the details of how the offense and defense is run. For those who are complaining that RJs defense today against the Jazz was horrible, did you notice Richard yelling at Blair for not providing weakside help on more then one occasion? Spurs fans should know that defense is a team effort, the guards and small forward will always look like terrible defenders with the NBA offense-friendly rules if the big guys in the paint don't step up and help out. I'm not saying Blair or RJ are terrible defenders, but this is a classic example of this miscommunication and two guys still learning the defense.

We are only 4 games into the season, we have surpassed the 1-3 record we had at the same time last season. It is unrealistic to expect immediate improvement from the beginning of the season. Don't even get me started on how 2 of the big 3 barely touched a basketball since our early Playoff exit. We all need to relax and support our team, and our coach. They need time to mesh and will put together another very solid title push. We have no right to complain after 4 games.


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Chieflion
11-06-2009, 08:47 AM
Look, I like this post, but you are going to get flamed for this.

mosdef17
11-06-2009, 08:49 AM
The people that 'flame' me will probably do it with the same immaturity that they insult their own team with, in which case I could not care less...

EmptyMan
11-06-2009, 08:56 AM
stfu about real "true" fans.

Some people choose to accept reality instead of sugar coating their perception of the world around them.

It is about time for the "It's only November, It's only December" crowd to come out in full force, but they have looked like clowns the past couple seasons. It's a good thing SPAM never goes bad.

I'd go on to say a TRUE :lmao Spurs fan puts in the time scouting other elite teams and then compares them back to the Spurs. Doesn't take thermal nuclear-dynamic-flux capacitor science to understand how much work the Spurs have left to do before the playoffs with the pieces they have.

deL!
11-06-2009, 08:56 AM
That's why you only browse the forums when the Spurs win :lol:

mosdef17
11-06-2009, 08:59 AM
That's why you only browse the forums when the Spurs win :lol:

haha yeah, getting to that point!




stfu about real "true" fans.

Some people choose to accept reality instead of sugar coating their perception of the world around them.

It is about time for the "It's only November, It's only December" crowd to come out in full force, but they have looked like clowns the past couple seasons.

I'd go on to say a TRUE :lmao Spurs fan puts in the time scouting other elite teams and then compares them back to the Spurs. Doesn't take thermal nuclear-dynamic-flux capacitor science to understand how much work the Spurs have left to do before the playoffs with the pieces they have.

It's not a matter of sugar coating, it's a matter of realistically evaluating a team after four games. Nobody can realistically expect this team to come out with the returning all-stars being rusty, besides Tony, and the new additions and just be clicking on all cylinders from the word go.

flox
11-06-2009, 09:00 AM
Why must we look at everything with rose tinted glasses? Sometimes it's better to call out the team when they were bad (last night), and praise them when they are good (opening night so far)

draft87
11-06-2009, 09:03 AM
I'm really sick of logging on here following a Spurs loss to find a lot of the Spurs fans on this forum complaining about the team and about our hall of fame coach. We suffer our SECOND loss of the season and people are proclaiming that "the Spurs suck", "RJ sucks". Does anyone realize how hard it is for a player to join a new team? Not to mention one that is used to scoring 17-20ppg and being the the 1st or 2nd option on his team and having to readjust his game after 8 seasons in the NBA? Not only is he trying to readjust his game, he is trying to learn a new system at the same time. Give the guy a break. I'm STILL happy he is here, we will need him when it counts.

May I remind the Spurs fans on this forum that the Spurs last season began 0-3. We then went on to a record of 2-5 including losses to Miami, Phoenix and even the freaking Bucks. We then went on to a 54-28 season despite all the injuries we had. It is nonsensical to expect the Spurs to make these changes and not have any sort of transition period where the players get accustomed to playing with each other in the rotation, especially when 30% of the guys would still be really sketchy on the details of how the offense and defense is run. For those who are complaining that RJs defense today against the Jazz was horrible, did you notice Richard yelling at Blair for not providing weakside help on more then one occasion? Spurs fans should know that defense is a team effort, the guards and small forward will always look like terrible defenders with the NBA offense-friendly rules if the big guys in the paint don't step up and help out. I'm not saying Blair or RJ are terrible defenders, but this is a classic example of this miscommunication and two guys still learning the defense.

We are only 4 games into the season, we have surpassed the 1-3 record we had at the same time last season. It is unrealistic to expect immediate improvement from the beginning of the season. Don't even get me started on how 2 of the big 3 barely touched a basketball since our early Playoff exit. We all need to relax and support our team, and our coach. They need time to mesh and will put together another very solid title push. We have no right to complain after 4 games.


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Look, I like this post, but you are going to get flamed for this.


right on for starting this thread. anyone who 'flames' true believers is a flaming faggot. i got your back. and it looks like a bunch of other for-real people are putting their foot down as well :flag:

Chieflion
11-06-2009, 09:04 AM
Why must we look at everything with rose tinted glasses? Sometimes it's better to call out the team when they were bad (last night), and praise them when they are good (opening night so far)
Sometimes, calling out certain players for blowout losses when they played only 17 minutes is quite stupid.

bus driver
11-06-2009, 09:09 AM
i'm really sick of logging on here following a spurs loss to find a lot of the spurs fans on this forum complaining about the team and about our hall of fame coach.


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true!

flox
11-06-2009, 09:10 AM
Sometimes, calling out certain players for blowout losses when they played only 17 minutes is quite stupid.

Finely and Bonner deserve the criticism they get- they played terrible last night.

sonic21
11-06-2009, 09:11 AM
what's with all these retarded threads? People are allowed to overreact and have meltdown. Stop spamming the forum.

Chieflion
11-06-2009, 09:12 AM
Finely and Bonner deserve the criticism they get- they played terrible last night.
Screw that crap. Everyone played horrible.

SoCalSpursFan
11-06-2009, 09:14 AM
lol every season there is a fresh batch of spurstalk n00bs who don't get it. EVERY LOSS = 139014908 Worthless Threads. If only there were that many threads when the Spurs WON a game. I guess they are expected to go 82-0, tho.

mosdef17
11-06-2009, 09:15 AM
what's with all these retarded threads? People are allowed to overreact and have meltdown. Stop spamming the forum.

Your aforementioned post is the definition of Spam...

Chieflion
11-06-2009, 09:16 AM
lol every season there is a fresh batch of spurstalk n00bs who don't get it. EVERY LOSS = 139014908 Worthless Threads. If only there were that many threads when the Spurs WON a game. I guess they are expected to go 82-0, tho.
The bandwidth must be killing timvp.

coyotes_geek
11-06-2009, 09:18 AM
Some people choose to accept reality instead of sugar coating their perception of the world around them.

It is about time for the "It's only November, It's only December" crowd to come out in full force, but they have looked like clowns the past couple seasons. It's a good thing SPAM never goes bad.

The reality is that it is indeed only November. But if you don't think the Spurs will get any better over the next 78 games then by all means, panic away.

fmedrano1977
11-06-2009, 09:32 AM
All I have to say to you idiots is, when the hell have the Spurs started off strong? Much improvement is needed and if the Spurs are playing like this during the stretch run , then yeah I would agree with you idiots saying they suck. C'mon dumbasses it's only four games, last time I checked a season was 82 games long.

flox
11-06-2009, 09:34 AM
Screw that crap. Everyone played horrible.

wait a minute, that means you are making judgments about them in only 17 minutes of play as well! you are either a hypocrite or stupid as well, according to your previous post:


Sometimes, calling out certain players for blowout losses when they played only 17 minutes is quite stupid.

in addition, my criticism was never limited to just them- i was only responding to your post about 17 minutes of playing time, which those two players were the only ones who met that criteria.

Warlord23
11-06-2009, 09:37 AM
It's not about our record over 4 games ... it's about the million-dollar question everyone asked before the season began - will Pop persist with Finley and Bonner this season? And now that we all see the ugly answer, fans are realizing that things haven't changed much in Pop's mind, despite overhauling the team over the offseason.

spursncowboys
11-06-2009, 09:38 AM
Come on guys. Let's not dictate what a true Spurs fan is. Let's have a big-tent policy on Spurs fans.

spursncowboys
11-06-2009, 09:39 AM
It's not about our record over 4 games ... it's about the million-dollar question everyone asked before the season began - will Pop persist with Finley and Bonner this season? And now that we all see the ugly answer, fans are realizing that things haven't changed much in Pop's mind, despite overhauling the team over the offseason.

Pop needs to watch the game from a tv so he can see how bad Bonner is.

romain.star
11-06-2009, 09:39 AM
i think you guys made a pretty good point but to tell the truth, thread authors are overated. with 3 or 4 guys starting a thread about Blair being a beast or tp being a ball hog, you log in ST and feel like half of the forum is sucking Blair balls or hating on TP...
never forget that threads don't reflect ST posters opinion AT ALL

that being said, go spurs go!

Chieflion
11-06-2009, 09:42 AM
wait a minute, that means you are making judgments about them in only 17 minutes of play as well! you are either a hypocrite or stupid as well, according to your previous post:



in addition, my criticism was never limited to just them- i was only responding to your post about 17 minutes of playing time, which those two players were the only ones who met that criteria.
Wrong. The reason why the Spurs lost is because they played horribly. Don't even try to twist the logic. Everyone is at fault. Don't blame Bonner and Finley. You might as well call out the whole team.

spursncowboys
11-06-2009, 09:45 AM
I saw Parker not creating and only passing when he didn't have a shot.

Warlord23
11-06-2009, 09:47 AM
Oh, and about the whole "everyone played like crap" argument. That's the whole deal right there. We need players who can step it up when the go-to guys are struggling. That's what legit starters on elite teams do. What's the point in Fin/Bonner making a few open 3 point shots when the Tim/Tony/Manu are on fire? That just helps us increase the margin in games we are already winning. What about picking up the slack when the big dogs are struggling? But that's when Fin and Bonner start bricking their shots, play loose defense and don't box out. We need people who at least have a chance of being productive when options 1, 2 and 3 aren't working.

Look, the reason Rondo and Perkins are starters is that they defend well and keep the C's in the game when their big 3 are struggling. I have seen even Derek Fisher (the worst starter on the Lakers) hustling and playing his ass off when Kobe or Gasol struggle.

Problem with Fin and Bonner is that when their shots dont connect, the rest of their game sucks as well. They don't hustle, don't rebound, dont defend, and pretty soon we are facing a large deficit. No blame on them since they lack the tools to do some of these things, but Pop needs to wake up and realize this pretty soon.

flox
11-06-2009, 09:49 AM
Wrong. The reason why the Spurs lost is because they played horribly. Don't even try to twist the logic. Everyone is at fault. Don't blame Bonner and Finley. You might as well call out the whole team.

It's obvious that you aren't reading my posts, and twisting my words and logic to your own means.

Sometimes it's better to call out the team when they were bad (last night), and praise them when they are good (opening night so far) in which you replied,
Sometimes, calling out certain players for blowout losses when they played only 17 minutes is quite stupid. in which I replied:
in addition, my criticism was never limited to just them- i was only responding to your post about 17 minutes of playing time, which those two players were the only ones who met that criteria.
I don't need to respond to a person that doesn't even have basic reading comprehension.

Chieflion
11-06-2009, 09:53 AM
Oh, and about the whole "everyone played like crap" argument. That's the whole deal right there. We need players who can step it up when the go-to guys are struggling. That's what legit starters on elite teams do. What's the point in Fin/Bonner making a few open 3 point shots when the Tim/Tony/Manu are on fire? That just helps us increase the margin in games we are already winning. What about picking up the slack when the big dogs are struggling? But that's when Fin and Bonner start bricking their shots, play loose defense and don't box out. We need people who at least have a chance of being productive when options 1, 2 and 3 aren't working.

Look, the reason Rondo and Perkins are starters is that they defend well and keep the C's in the game when their big 3 are struggling. I have seen even Derek Fisher (the worst starter on the Lakers) hustling and playing his ass off when Kobe or Gasol struggle.

Problem with Fin and Bonner is that when their shots dont connect, the rest of their game sucks as well. They don't hustle, don't rebound, dont defend, and pretty soon we are facing a large deficit. No blame on them since they lack the tools to do some of these things, but Pop needs to wake up and realize this pretty soon.
Most of these are correct. If Bonner and Finley do not deserve their minutes, then reduce those minutes. However, if you know options 1,2 and 3 are not working and then you have both Finley and Bonner on the court at the same time, the opposing coach also knows that options 1,2 and 3 are not working, they will check on Bonner and Finley. All of us know that Bonner and Finley can hit open 3s and know their limitations. Why curse them for it? Unless it is a lack of effort, then they do not deserve to be called out for. Bonner knows hustling, I am sure Finley does but he is not even one-tenth as athletic as he was in the past. It is up to Pop to adjust those minutes as the games go by. We can only hope this suck ass situation does not last for too long. It is easy for us to talk about those players but Pop has the toughest job to do.

Chieflion
11-06-2009, 09:55 AM
It's obvious that you aren't reading my posts, and twisting my words and logic to your own means.
in which you replied, in which I replied:
I don't need to respond to a person that doesn't even have basic reading comprehension.
Then don't reply to me. There is not even a reasoning behind your dumb post.

mosdef17
11-06-2009, 10:11 AM
It is a little unfair to blame the Spurs misfortunes on Bonner and Finley. Bonner in the starting lineup to me makes sense because if your going to pair Bonners lack of interior defense or rim defense with anyone, who better then Tim? He also spreads the floor for Tim, although McDyess could do that too, just not to the extent Bonner can. I don't like Bonner starting, I'm actually all for trading his expiring deal for someone that could really contribute. But, it makes sense why he is starting.

Finley, I'm assuming he gives the starting backcourt a little more size then starting Mason? I'm not sure why Roger Mason Jr lost his spot. It also seems to make more sense playing Finley as the backup SF as there really is nobody in that backup SF besides Bogans, Ginobili plays a bit of backup SF too with Hill at the Point and Roger at the two. Before the season began I thought the starting lineup woud be Tony, Mason, Jefferson, Duncan, McDyess. I'm a little surprised, and although I'm criticizing the Spurs, my main point in this thread is that there is a difference between an actual opinion as to why things aren't going too great and just cursing the Spurs after every loss and then jumping back on them after a win (or even after a double double from Blair).

spurspokesman
11-06-2009, 10:13 AM
True fans get mad when theyre team loses. Wouldnt you agree. And spurstalk is a place to vent. We still rock out for the spurs. I myself have lost a lot of money betting on em. I know we will do better but unfortunately not with what weve been starting.I dont hate matt or fin but they should be only playing spot minutes and I really cant convince myself that we can go all the way with both starting. Not saying I have any other suggestions but I can guarantee if both start all year we will look bad pretty often.

hater
11-06-2009, 10:15 AM
^ this

it's bullshit when the so called "true" fans critizize the fans that bitch. These pussies just wanna make themselves beleive they are better fans.

It reminds me of when jesus said "throw the first stone" when ppl wanted to stone the whore. Are we not all spursfans??? :D

mosdef17
11-06-2009, 10:18 AM
True fans get mad when theyre team loses. Wouldnt you agree. And spurstalk is a place to vent. We still rock out for the spurs. I myself have lost a lot of money betting on em. I know we will do better but unfortunately not with what weve been starting.I dont hate matt or fin but they should be only playing spot minutes and I really cant convince myself that we can go all the way with both starting. Not saying I have any other suggestions but I can guarantee if both start all year we will look bad pretty often.

I have no problems with expressing disappointment at a loss, I just can't stand seeing threads coming up after each loss about "get Bonner the F out of our team", "RJ... the worst trade of the offseason" and "Spurs suck balls". All of which were started by Spurs fans on the forums either during, or just after, our second loss of the season. That is not venting, that is an extreme overreaction to an under-performance one week into the season.

Oh, Gee!!
11-06-2009, 10:18 AM
it's a long season, and even longer when you give a crap about what the trolls are saying. 99% of us here realize the way the spurs start a season is way different from the way they finish a season. I rarely post in this forum before the all-star break because most of the stuff you'll see here is pure crap.

spurspokesman
11-06-2009, 10:19 AM
^ this

it's bullshit when the so called "true" fans critizize the fans that bitch. These pussies just wanna make themselves beleive they are better fans.

It reminds me of when jesus said "throw the first stone" when ppl wanted to stone the whore. Are we not all spursfans??? :D

Yup and not a stone was thrown because there was no one blameless. I dig it hater.

nkdlunch
11-06-2009, 10:23 AM
what's worse than a fan bitching about his team??

a fan bitching about the bitching

mosdef17
11-06-2009, 11:02 AM
what's worse than a fan bitching about his team??

a fan bitching about the bitching


Or a fan bitching about the bitching about the bitching? Shall we keep it going or do you have anything valid to contribute?

ShoogarBear
11-06-2009, 11:14 AM
Hey, mosdef17, why don't you create the official list of TRUE Spurs fans, so the rest of us will know who we should be aspiring to.

Trainwreck2100
11-06-2009, 11:17 AM
Hey, mosdef17, why don't you create the official list of TRUE Spurs fans, so the rest of us will know who we should be aspiring to.

I know I won't make it, cause I get disappointed when they lose

ShoogarBear
11-06-2009, 11:21 AM
I know I won't make it, cause I get disappointed when they lose

You wouldn't make it because nobody wants to aspire to having an unrequited boner.

Indazone
11-06-2009, 11:22 AM
This is awesome...but really, Bonner and Fin? lol

Trainwreck2100
11-06-2009, 11:24 AM
You wouldn't make it because nobody wants to aspire to having an unrequited boner.

we're talking basketball here, and in the NBA unrequited boners are reserved for mavs fans

Technique
11-06-2009, 11:24 AM
I agree with mosdef, if there's one thing I don't like about the Spurs its their fans.

ShoogarBear
11-06-2009, 11:30 AM
we're talking basketball here, and in the NBA unrequited boners are reserved for mavs fans

Good er . . . point, so to speak.

Leetonidas
11-06-2009, 11:30 AM
So what happens if the Spurs play well against the Blazers and win tonight? The Jazz loss will be forgotten and the proclamations of 2010 champs will be all over the place. A lot of you so-called fans need to stop acting like whiny little pussies and man up. How can you even call yourself a Spurs fan and complain about losing 4 games into the season when you know Popovich uses the season to fine-tune the roster until the RRT?

ShoogarBear
11-06-2009, 11:31 AM
I agree with mosdef, if there's one thing I don't like about the Spurs its their fans.


1. Technique

will_spurs
11-06-2009, 11:31 AM
if there's one thing I don't like about the Spurs its their fans.

Probably because you're one of them? :rollin

To all the "true" fans who don't care what happens until April, why don't you stop reading ST until April... and let the "fake" fans debate on what could be done to improve the team (except waiting for a miracle to happen in April, this holy time when the team suddenly gels out of the blue and Pop suddenly recovers his sense).

samikeyp
11-06-2009, 11:32 AM
True fans don't criticize others because they follow the team differently. The only thing that determines a true fan is loyalty. Just because you critcize the team doesn't mean you are not still loyal and if you are still loyal, you are a true fan.

Trainwreck2100
11-06-2009, 11:35 AM
True fans don't criticize others because they follow the team differently. The only thing that determines a true fan is loyalty. Just because you critcize the team doesn't mean you are not still loyal and if you are still loyal, you are a true fan.

you mean even though you watch the game' you're not a true fan if you don't likw the outcome' is a dumbass thought

Spursfan092120
11-06-2009, 11:40 AM
what's with all these retarded threads? People are allowed to overreact and have meltdown. Stop spamming the forum.
Just as people are allowed to overreact and have a meltdown, people are allowed to say that those people are ignorant. Stop the damn double standards. The OP is right. People freak the hell out. We have a lot of brand new players. You can't just expect them to gel automatically. We ALWAYS start the season out shitty and pick it up midway through the season. Everyone just needs to calm the hell down. They won't, but it's their heart attack, not mine.

samikeyp
11-06-2009, 11:41 AM
you mean even though you watch the game' you're not a true fan if you don't likw the outcome' is a dumbass thought

Just a little. :)

Spursfan092120
11-06-2009, 11:41 AM
So what happens if the Spurs play well against the Blazers and win tonight? The Jazz loss will be forgotten and the proclamations of 2010 champs will be all over the place. A lot of you so-called fans need to stop acting like whiny little pussies and man up. How can you even call yourself a Spurs fan and complain about losing 4 games into the season when you know Popovich uses the season to fine-tune the roster until the RRT?
this

Leetonidas
11-06-2009, 11:47 AM
There's a difference between "loyalty" and "criticizing the team" and the cliff-jumping a lot of the users are doing. It just pisses me off because every season it's the same shit. Even the years we won the title, every single little loss the ST posters jump.

samikeyp
11-06-2009, 11:50 AM
There's a difference between "loyalty" and "criticizing the team" .

yes there is but sadly...a lot of people don't know the difference.

EmptyMan
11-06-2009, 11:52 AM
The reality is that it is indeed only November. But if you don't think the Spurs will get any better over the next 78 games then by all means, panic away.

lol, I have been watching this team every single game for the past 10+ years. I know how good they will be by game 82. I know the weaknesses they will STILL have by game 82.

In case the TRUE O.G. Spurs fans have not noticed, this is not the same weak pathetic league that gave you N.J., PHX, & the one-man army Cavs as the top competition.

My Fault
11-06-2009, 11:55 AM
Why must we look at everything with rose tinted glasses? Sometimes it's better to call out the team when they were bad (last night), and praise them when they are good (opening night so far)
What difference will it make to call them out? Its not like professionals need fans to them what did wrong. Nor will they even see what is said on a forum.

samikeyp
11-06-2009, 12:00 PM
lol, I have been watching this team every single game for the past 10+ years. I know how good they will be by game 82. I know the weaknesses they will STILL have by game 82.

In case the TRUE O.G. Spurs fans have not noticed, this is not the same weak pathetic league that gave you N.J., PHX, & the one-man army Cavs as the top competition.

As one of those O.G. fans and as someone who has watched games for 30+ years, I can say we have noticed...but on that same tip, we also know that while there are areas of improvement to be tended to....the ultimate goal is still attainable.

Leetonidas
11-06-2009, 12:04 PM
Exactly. Anyone who expected the Spurs to come out looking 100% and playing at their best is a fucking retard. There are so many new players that have to integrate, I don't know why some of you can't grasp this.

nkdlunch
11-06-2009, 12:23 PM
Or a fan bitching about the bitching about the bitching? Shall we keep it going or do you have anything valid to contribute?

I wasn't bitching. sounds to me only one bitchin is u

robert1886
11-06-2009, 12:28 PM
Exactly. Anyone who expected the Spurs to come out looking 100% and playing at their best is a fucking retard. There are so many new players that have to integrate, I don't know why some of you can't grasp this.
Thank you...awesome post couldnt say it any better

Chomag
11-06-2009, 12:44 PM
I'm really sick of logging on here following a Spurs loss to find a lot of the Spurs fans on this forum complaining about the team and about our hall of fame coach. We suffer our SECOND loss of the season and people are proclaiming that "the Spurs suck", "RJ sucks". Does anyone realize how hard it is for a player to join a new team? Not to mention one that is used to scoring 17-20ppg and being the the 1st or 2nd option on his team and having to readjust his game after 8 seasons in the NBA? Not only is he trying to readjust his game, he is trying to learn a new system at the same time. Give the guy a break. I'm STILL happy he is here, we will need him when it counts.

May I remind the Spurs fans on this forum that the Spurs last season began 0-3. We then went on to a record of 2-5 including losses to Miami, Phoenix and even the freaking Bucks. We then went on to a 54-28 season despite all the injuries we had. It is nonsensical to expect the Spurs to make these changes and not have any sort of transition period where the players get accustomed to playing with each other in the rotation, especially when 30% of the guys would still be really sketchy on the details of how the offense and defense is run. For those who are complaining that RJs defense today against the Jazz was horrible, did you notice Richard yelling at Blair for not providing weakside help on more then one occasion? Spurs fans should know that defense is a team effort, the guards and small forward will always look like terrible defenders with the NBA offense-friendly rules if the big guys in the paint don't step up and help out. I'm not saying Blair or RJ are terrible defenders, but this is a classic example of this miscommunication and two guys still learning the defense.

We are only 4 games into the season, we have surpassed the 1-3 record we had at the same time last season. It is unrealistic to expect immediate improvement from the beginning of the season. Don't even get me started on how 2 of the big 3 barely touched a basketball since our early Playoff exit. We all need to relax and support our team, and our coach. They need time to mesh and will put together another very solid title push. We have no right to complain after 4 games.


:flag:

Spurs are playing some great D and Bonner and Finely in the starting line up is the right call. I hope we have this in the playoffs. Happy?

Dude, you shouldn't take everything so serious and stress out so much over it. IT's just venting allthough I do agree some take it a bit to far. Chill, relax... it's going to be a very long season if you stress yourself out so much over venting.

SamoanTD
11-06-2009, 12:52 PM
but all the cliff jumping gives us something to talk about this thread was made becuz you were tired of the cliff jumping yes? lol so see cliff jumping makes the world go round my friend cant stop it lol

Brazil
11-06-2009, 01:42 PM
:lmao I love ST

senorglory
11-06-2009, 02:08 PM
15% of U.S. adult population likely has some form of personality disorder (http://www.thecolorsoftherainbow.com/HH%20&%20D%20I/Personality%20disorders.htm). 26% of U.S. adult population likely has some form of diagnosable mental disorder (http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/the-numbers-count-mental-disorders-in-america/index.shtml).

Which means that someone you know, real or vitual... is crazy.


:downspin: + :flag:= Spurstalk.

HarlemHeat37
11-06-2009, 02:10 PM
TBH, the majority of the new breed of posters aren't actually Spurs fans IMO..they're trolls that actually take the time to pretend to be fans, which is kind of pathetic..you can tell by their posts..

Kamnik
11-06-2009, 04:39 PM
I tend not to read anything after a loss because all the morons quickly surface with their "bright" thoughts.

Bukefal
11-06-2009, 04:50 PM
bunch of Drama Queens

I love the spurs, I love the squad like it is now, I love what we are and how we play. This season is going to be great!!! Drop the negativity, it just started. By bashing and blaiming and cursing everything after only 2 losses in a season which just started, tells alot about what kind of person you are and your knowledge of the game.


GO SPURS GO!!! :lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt2:

flox
11-06-2009, 05:16 PM
What difference will it make to call them out? Its not like professionals need fans to them what did wrong. Nor will they even see what is said on a forum.

What's the point of praising them? It's not like they need to be told they did a good job nor will they see what is said on a forum... see how that works?

angelbelow
11-06-2009, 05:20 PM
what's worse than a fan bitching about his team??

a fan bitching about the bitching

No fans bitching about his team is worse.

UnWantedTheory
11-06-2009, 06:02 PM
I'm really sick of logging on here following a Spurs loss to find a lot of the Spurs fans on this forum complaining about the team and about our hall of fame coach. We suffer our SECOND loss of the season and people are proclaiming that "the Spurs suck", "RJ sucks". Does anyone realize how hard it is for a player to join a new team? Not to mention one that is used to scoring 17-20ppg and being the the 1st or 2nd option on his team and having to readjust his game after 8 seasons in the NBA? Not only is he trying to readjust his game, he is trying to learn a new system at the same time. Give the guy a break. I'm STILL happy he is here, we will need him when it counts.

May I remind the Spurs fans on this forum that the Spurs last season began 0-3. We then went on to a record of 2-5 including losses to Miami, Phoenix and even the freaking Bucks. We then went on to a 54-28 season despite all the injuries we had. It is nonsensical to expect the Spurs to make these changes and not have any sort of transition period where the players get accustomed to playing with each other in the rotation, especially when 30% of the guys would still be really sketchy on the details of how the offense and defense is run. For those who are complaining that RJs defense today against the Jazz was horrible, did you notice Richard yelling at Blair for not providing weakside help on more then one occasion? Spurs fans should know that defense is a team effort, the guards and small forward will always look like terrible defenders with the NBA offense-friendly rules if the big guys in the paint don't step up and help out. I'm not saying Blair or RJ are terrible defenders, but this is a classic example of this miscommunication and two guys still learning the defense.

We are only 4 games into the season, we have surpassed the 1-3 record we had at the same time last season. It is unrealistic to expect immediate improvement from the beginning of the season. Don't even get me started on how 2 of the big 3 barely touched a basketball since our early Playoff exit. We all need to relax and support our team, and our coach. They need time to mesh and will put together another very solid title push. We have no right to complain after 4 games.


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:tu I agree. Good job. :flag:

lennyalderette
11-06-2009, 06:14 PM
these are all very strong points and most of them are true, but if you look at our wrap sheet we get our shit together when we need to, know one knows what the hell is going to come of this bonner finley crap, but usually when we have talent on a team we dont screw it up! now lets trust that things wont change much in our progress into the season. and like i said before pop has a hell of an idea whats going on right now, he cant fail this season he has a shit load of pressure from holt and this city. i dont think were going to come out like pussies come playoff time. we shouldnt be talking shit to eachother on here it just makes enemies between people that want the same thing, so lets keep our hopes up

lennyalderette
11-06-2009, 06:16 PM
TBH, the majority of the new breed of posters aren't actually Spurs fans IMO..they're trolls that actually take the time to pretend to be fans, which is kind of pathetic..you can tell by their posts..



i was just thinking that last night!!! we should put a code word in our msgs to know who's a true spurs fan! lol sounds lame but we could actually weed out pages and threads of false fans

spursfan1000
11-06-2009, 06:21 PM
I woulden't say that the fans that call out their team aren't true fans but they should defenatkly tone it down a bit, if we are playing like this towards the playoffs then fans should start to panic

Trainwreck2100
11-06-2009, 06:22 PM
lol @ all the lurkers comin out the woodwork.

Winehole23
11-06-2009, 06:58 PM
what's worse than a fan bitching about his team??

a fan bitching about the bitchingComplaint-complainers ruin everything.

mosdef17
11-06-2009, 07:04 PM
I'm not going to quote about 10-15 different posts, but a lot of people are saying they're allowed to criticize their team and if they do it doesn't mean they're not a true fan. I agree with this, it doesn't mean your not a true fan. I am talking about the ST users that create threads talking about trading guys after they have a couple of bad games. There's a thread out there right now called "Spurs suck balls", that's the kind of thing I'm talking about. Can everyone atleast see my point? What Spurs fan would create a "Spurs suck balls" thread after the second loss of the season, no matter how badly they played?

There is a better way to go about venting your anger. If your going to vent your frustration with the team, do it in a way that at least shows you have more knowledge of the team then a 6 year old. Say what you didn't like about it and what should be changed. I could never imagine myself creating a thread like that which just insults the team without offering any sort of reason why, instead just going nuts that they just lost to a potentially top 5 team in the West. To me, this is a point in the season where we need to display patience, give the team an adequate chance to pull it together, if they haven't done it by January at the earliest, then you may express your disappointment. I'm not telling anyone here what to do, but it just seems silly going nuts after week 1.

Spurs#1
11-06-2009, 07:23 PM
lol, I have been watching this team every single game for the past 10+ years. I know how good they will be by game 82. I know the weaknesses they will STILL have by game 82.

In case the TRUE O.G. Spurs fans have not noticed, this is not the same weak pathetic league that gave you N.J., PHX, & the one-man army Cavs as the top competition.

That's a good point. I think people get pissed off because they know that Bonner,Finley perhaps RJ are losers and we won't be hanging that fifth banner as long as this is the quality of our team.

symple19
11-06-2009, 07:25 PM
it's a long season, and even longer when you give a crap about what the trolls are saying. 99% of us here realize the way the spurs start a season is way different from the way they finish a season. I rarely post in this forum before the all-star break because most of the stuff you'll see here is pure crap.

great post.

ShoogarBear
11-06-2009, 11:41 PM
Spurs suck balls.

nbaman99
11-06-2009, 11:52 PM
look, teams win teams loose, it only matter weather or not they in the playoffs or not. if those so called fans are real they know by now for the spurs regular season does not matter. so sit down and relax and let the professionals do there job.