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[Basketballgirl25]

Ever had all the starters hurt? Nets only had one starter(Brook Lopez) playing for them and they a young team that haven't won any games.

Yes I am a Nets fan and Yes they do suck, but I have to say it's actually funny. Players seem to be going down like flys:lol

[Allanon]

Nets are injured? I hadn't heard.

[iggypop123]

thats better. higher draft pick even though the talent level isnt that low

[Basketballgirl25]

Nets are injured? I hadn't heard.

yeah, they are lol, they even are having all the injured Nets mingle with fans tomorrow before the game, because most of them are injured and can't play and I guess want them to do something

[mVp]

That really sucks.

[symple19]

the Nets?

huh?

where?

[monosylab1k]

Yeah, but all 50 games Devin Harris plays each year make me regret the Kidd trade more and more.

[Culburn369]

Harris is a funk & junker.

[bdictjames]

Last time I seen ehm they only had 9 players available to play.. and then one was hurt. 8 players for the whole game! No Brook, no Devin.

[Basketballgirl25]

Last time I seen ehm they only had 9 players available to play.. and then one was hurt. 8 players for the whole game! No Brook, no Devin.

actually Brook is the only one not injured that starts. Well CDR as well, but he was sick yesterday. Lee was the new one that got hurt

[Basketballgirl25]

Yeah, but all 50 games Devin Harris plays each year make me regret the Kidd trade more and more.

If it was only Harris injured it wouldn't be becoming a joke. I'm pretty sure if two more players get injured we'd be down to 5 players:lol

[boston.balla]

If it was only Harris injured it wouldn't be becoming a joke. I'm pretty sure if two more players get injured we'd be down to 5 players:lol

The nets are going to get another high draft pick and will have crazy cap space and an owner with no problems for paying whatever the maximum luxury may be.

You're looking at a devin harris, courtney lee, _ , _ , brook lopez lineup with some good reserves and space for 2 max contracts. Oh, and there's a guy by the name of jay-z. This team is lebron-built.

Add to that starting lineup lebron and bosh and you've got an excelent team set up for MANY years. Ofc, those are just suppositions .. but.. if lebron and bosh want rings then there is not a better team than nj (great role players with good offense game and good defenders, young talented big man, good cheap bench and probably HIGH draft pick).

[Chieflion]

Tanking for Derrick Favors. This is like the 2008 Heat with no Dwyane Wade.

[Basketballgirl25]

The nets are going to get another high draft pick and will have crazy cap space and an owner with no problems for paying whatever the maximum luxury may be.

You're looking at a devin harris, courtney lee, _ , _ , brook lopez lineup with some good reserves and space for 2 max contracts. Oh, and there's a guy by the name of jay-z. This team is lebron-built.

Add to that starting lineup lebron and bosh and you've got an excelent team set up for MANY years. Ofc, those are just suppositions .. but.. if lebron and bosh want rings then there is not a better team than nj (great role players with good offense game and good defenders, young talented big man, good cheap bench and probably HIGH draft pick).

agreed we could be good in the future, but we won't know for sure till all the players are playing or at least more then right now. And I think we have to win at least two games to have a chance at Lebron or anyone like that.:lol

But, then again we are one of the better teams to come up with ways to sell tickets, that's a plus

[Basketballgirl25]

Tanking for Derrick Favors. This is like the 2008 Heat with no Dwyane Wade.

I always forget 2008 :lol

[Findog]

Devin Harris is the Iron Man. Anytime you can build your franchise around a guy who averages a whopping 55 games played per year, you gotta do it.

[Culburn369]

Amen to that, Fin. I'll never understand the excitement over this guy.

[pauls931]

The Knicks last night?

[Basketballgirl25]

Amen to that, Fin. I'll never understand the excitement over this guy.

I don't understand the excitement over him either, but I root for him since he is on the Nets. I'd rather have him on the team then Kidd with the team we have now though, so I can see that type of excitement for him:toast

[mogrovejo]

Devin Harris has no idea on how to run a team. Good scoring guard, but that's all. Mo Williams with better defence. In a really good team, he should be a 3rd guard off the bench.

Lopez is a future fringe All-Star. Good player, but not a franchise player.

T-Williams may be a solid starter and a very good wing defender.

Courtney Lee is already that.

The rest of their youngsters are bench players at best or pure garbage.

[iggypop123]

Nets forward Chris Douglas-Roberts, who has been sidelined with flu-like symptoms, has tested positive for the H1N1 virus, according to Nets President Rod Thorn.

[Basketballgirl25]

Devin Harris has no idea on how to run a team. Good scoring guard, but that's all. Mo Williams with better defence. In a really good team, he should be a 3rd guard off the bench.

Lopez is a future fringe All-Star. Good player, but not a franchise player.

T-Williams may be a solid starter and a very good wing defender.

Courtney Lee is already that.

The rest of their youngsters are bench players at best or pure garbage.

Lopez is the best Center since Krstic for the Nets, so I'll take it and he does work hard, not saying he is great like Shaq or anything, but better then others in the NBA.

T-Will is pretty fun to watch so far looks like he could be good so far

the rest at hurt right now so can't really know who they will do with this team yet lol. And I think they team did pretty well against Celtics last night considering they only had 8 players and most of the players Nets had playing prob wouldn't or won't be seeing time when or if players weren't hurt

[monosylab1k]

Devin Harris has no idea on how to run a team.

But I thought after he had a couple good months last year that he was a top 5 PG and the Mavs were idiots for trading him? At least that's what all Spurs fans said.

[anonoftheinternets]

But I thought after he had a couple good months last year that he was a top 5 PG and the Mavs were idiots for trading him? At least that's what all Spurs fans said.

head 2 head matchup .. harris was good on parker. As far as Mavs- mebbe kidd is better. Kidd is defintely a better floor general, and brings toughness, but i dunno abt that if you factor in age.

And dont bring up the 4-1, we all know that had nothing to do with kidds awesome defense on parker. Think finley/josh howard.

[DAF86]

Mavs fans stop bitching and accept that the Kidd trade was a bad one.

[dirk4mvp]

Mavs fans stop bitching and accept that the Kidd trade was a bad one.

Replacing Kidd with Harris right now on this Mavericks team would make it worse.

[Culburn369]

Devin Harris has no idea on how to run a team. Good scoring guard, but that's all. Mo Williams with better defence.

That's it in a nutshell.

[Finperro]

Nets are injured? I hadn't heard.
One of their players got tested positive for swine flu, which wasn't a surprise though since the Nets have got a swine in locker-room who's going to spread this shit even broader. Honestly the Nets were more of a victim getting robbed in the prior Jefferson trade than the Bucks were in the later one.

[Findog]

Mavs fans stop bitching and accept that the Kidd trade was a bad one.

Throwing in two first-round picks was bad. Otherwise, I'm perfectly happy trading 10 years of Devin Harris for 3 years of Jason Kidd.

[DAF86]

Throwing in two first-round picks was bad. Otherwise, I'm perfectly happy trading 10 years of Devin Harris for 3 years of Jason Kidd.

Firing AJ and trading Harris are the two biggest reasons why the Mavs aren't elite anymore.

[Findog]

Firing AJ and trading Harris are the two biggest reasons why the Mavs aren't elite anymore.

Firing Avery was absolutely necessary for them to continue contending. They had quit on him and tuned him out. Carlisle got more out of that core in 2009 than Avery did in 2008. The Gasol/Garnett trades have way more to do with Dallas no longer being "elite" by shifting the balance of power than the Kidd trade.

It was a mistake to throw in 2 first-rounders, but no fucking way they're better off with Harris for 50 games a year while they try to prop the window back open than having Kidd for 75 games.

[Culburn369]

Firing AJ and trading Harris are the two biggest reasons why the Mavs aren't elite anymore.

I agree on AJ, but, their new coach (name escapes me) evens that out. Harris is a loser.

[Finperro]

then what we got this year from our first founder? Even in a nutritious draft year like 03, our first rounder still would by 90% chance turn into something worthless given how big an idiot Donnie is.

[wanggi]

I agree on AJ, but, their new coach (name escapes me) evens that out. Harris is a loser.

Actually, signing JK was a major mistake.

[Culburn369]

Actually, signing JK was a major mistake.

They weren't winning it with Harris.

[Finperro]

Actually, signing JK was a major mistake.
Though wasn't so tragic as Houston wasting their 1st pick in 02 on a piece of shit.

[wanggi]

They weren't winning it with Harris.

For sure, old horse.

[DAF86]

Firing Avery was absolutely necessary for them to continue contending. They had quit on him and tuned him out. Carlisle got more out of that core in 2009 than Avery did in 2008. The Gasol/Garnett trades have way more to do with Dallas no longer being "elite" by shifting the balance of power than the Kidd trade.

It was a mistake to throw in 2 first-rounders, but no fucking way they're better off with Harris for 50 games a year while they try to prop the window back open than having Kidd for 75 games.

At the begining of the 07/08 season the Mavs were in the top of the list of contenders (They had the advantage over the Spurs in the individual match-up, the Celtics had a lot to prove and the Lakers didn't have Gasol) but they had a semi difficult start and Cuban freaked out (thanks in part to what happened in the two prior playoffs) made a desperate move and that was it, they were never the same team. If they have kept the same core of guys they would still be fighting in the top (2nd best team in the west IMO).

Numbers don't lie on this case, the Mavs were a much better team with Harris instead of Kidd.

[Culburn369]

For sure, old horse.

lmemulatedao!

[Findog]

At the begining of the 07/08 season the Mavs were in the top of the list of contenders (They had the advantage over the Spurs in the individual match-up, the Celtics had a lot to prove and the Lakers didn't have Gasol) but they had a semi difficult start and Cuban freaked out (thanks in part to what happened in the two prior playoffs) made a desperate move and that was it, they were never the same team. If they have kept the same core of guys they would still be fighting in the top (2nd best team in the west IMO).

Numbers don't lie on this case, the Mavs were a much better team with Harris instead of Kidd.

That team with Harris doesn't beat the Celtics or Lakers in a 7-game series. I wouldn't have done the trade by throwing in the picks, but Harris is what he is at this point: a homeless man's Allen Iverson, or Mo Williams with a bit better defense. And there is just no way you can convince me this team is better off today with Harris instead of Kidd. Kidd can't guard the quick guards like Parker, Paul, etc, but Harris doesn't guard those guys. Kidd is still a much better floor general than Harris will ever be.

As for "2nd best team in the West," I don't think that's the goal, but for what it's worth, you're delusional if you don't think the Mavs have an excellent shot at being the Lakers' bridesmaid this year.

[wanggi]

Replacing Kidd with Harris right now on this Mavericks team would make it worse.

Maybe, but Mavs will get worse if they still play 37-year-old JK in 2011.

[Findog]

Maybe, but Mavs will get worse if they still play 37-year-old JK in 2011.

They're trying to win now. Harris is not a franchise player and never will be.

[Findog]

CP3 is like a 21 year old Victoria's Secret Playmate, Jason Kidd is a cougar, and Devin Harris is like one of those chicks you see in the Sunday paper bra ads.

[DAF86]

That team with Harris doesn't beat the Celtics or Lakers in a 7-game series. I wouldn't have done the trade by throwing in the picks, but Harris is what he is at this point: a homeless man's Allen Iverson, or Mo Williams with a bit better defense. And there is just no way you can convince me this team is better off today with Harris instead of Kidd. Kidd can't guard the quick guards like Parker, Paul, etc, but Harris doesn't guard those guys. Kidd is still a much better floor general than Harris will ever be.

As for "2nd best team in the West," I don't think that's the goal, but for what it's worth, you're delusional if you don't think the Mavs have an excellent shot at being the Lakers' bridesmaid this year.

I wouldn't be so sure that that Mavs team with Harris doesn't beat the Lakers or Celtics, probably not but they'd have had a much better chance (or at least a chance) than with Kidd.

What do you mean by Harris doesn't guard those guys? I've never seen anybody defend Parker like he did everytime Spurs and Mavs faced each other.

And sorry, but you're the delusional one if you think this Mavs team has a chance to be the second best team in the WC.

[DAF86]

They're trying to win now. Harris is not a franchise player and never will be.

So what? you didn't need for Harris to be a franchise player.

[Culburn369]

CP3 is like a 21 year old Victoria's Secret Playmate, Jason Kidd is a cougar, and Devin Harris is like one of those chicks you see in the Sunday paper bra ads.

Yep.

[Findog]

I wouldn't be so sure that that Mavs team with Harris doesn't beat the Lakers or Celtics, probably not but they'd have had a much better chance (or at least a chance) than with Kidd.

The Lakers psychologically own the Mavs and always have. If you think Devin Harris gives them a mental edge over Kobe and Co. that an alpha dog and all-around motherfucker like Jason Kidd doesn't, I don't know what to tell you.



What do you mean by Harris doesn't guard those guys? I've never seen anybody defend Parker like he did everytime Spurs and Mavs faced each other.


Watch him sometime on the Nets. He doesn't play defense for Frank like he did for Avery. And it's not like the Mavs need Kidd to shut down Parker to beat San Antonio.



And sorry, but you're the delusional one if you think this Mavs team has a chance to be the second best team in the WC


Oh, who's going to be the runner-up? The Social Security Spurs? The Blazers, after they messed with their chemistry by signing Miller? The Nuggets, who don't have any depth? The Hornets, which are a 2-man team? The Jazz? The Mavs are playing better than all of those teams right now. The West is going to be just like it was the last two years - there's the Lakers, and then a dogfight between the next 6-8 teams. The Mavs have just as good a chance as anybody to be the bridesmaid.

[Höfner]

CP3 is like a 21 year old Victoria's Secret Playmate, Jason Kidd is a cougar, and Devin Harris is like one of those chicks you see in the Sunday paper bra ads.

Poor kids don't even know they're jacking off to Devin Harris.

[DAF86]

The Lakers psychologically own the Mavs and always have. If you think Devin Harris gives them a mental edge over Kobe and Co. that an alpha dog and all-around motherfucker like Jason Kidd doesn't, I don't know what to tell you.

Mavs with Harris >>> Mavs with Kidd, and these last couple of years: Harris > Kidd.


Watch him sometime on the Nets. He doesn't play defense for Frank like he did for Avery. And it's not like the Mavs need Kidd to shut down Parker to beat San Antonio.

I don't care what he does now, he's capable of playing great defense and the only time he was on an elite team that was what he did.


Oh, who's going to be the runner-up? The Social Security Spurs? The Blazers, after they messed with their chemistry by signing Miller? The Nuggets, who don't have any depth? The Hornets, which are a 2-man team? The Jazz? The Mavs are playing better than all of those teams right now. The West is going to be just like it was the last two years - there's the Lakers, and then a dogfight between the next 6-8 teams. The Mavs have just as good a chance as anybody to be the bridesmaid.

Denver is a much better team and they own the Mavs, so there alone you have the reason why the Mavs won't be a top 2 team in the WC. Besides it's still early in the season, I think teams like the Spurs, Blazers and Jazz will get it toghether and IMO those teams are better than the Mavs.

[Findog]

Mavs with Harris >>> Mavs with Kidd, and these last couple of years: Harris > Kidd.


The hell he is. Devin Harris is good at one thing, and that's taking his man off the dribble. He can't shoot, he doesn't play defense anymore, he can't run an offense like Kidd, and he doesn't have near the bball IQ. The Mavs are a much better team now than they were at the time of the Kidd trade.







Denver is a much better team and they own the Mavs,

Last year? Sure. After the Mavs added Marion, Thomas, Gooden, Ross, We'll find out.


so there alone you have the reason why the Mavs won't be a top 2 team in the WC. Besides it's still early in the season, I think teams like the Spurs, Blazers and Jazz will get it toghether and IMO those teams are better than the Mavs

The Jazz? The team that Dirk bukakked all over and just lost to Sacramento at home? They're better than the Mavs?

Oh, and Manu > Dirk.