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picc84
11-07-2009, 01:29 AM
You'd think he was fucking Jay-z and A-Rod the way he was carrying on with them after he made a shot, not to mention the rest of the yankees and the MSG crowd. :wow

I'm convinced now more than ever this guy is going to New York next year, he couldn't have made it any more obvious. His whole body language and demeanor changed....like he was actually happy and genuinely having fun, unlike those fake-ass team pictures they take at the beginning of the games.

Guy was showboating like it was a Globetrotters game. "See what I can give you, New York!". I cant wait until they dedicate the Macy's Day Parade to his honor and send Eli Manning and Jeter personally to recruit him July 1st. :king of New York.

cobbler
11-07-2009, 01:39 AM
The Cavs will not be contenders this year. LBJ is gonna walk and the Cavs should really consider that blockbuster trade that would at least not leave them standing there in the off season empty handed.

JoeTait75
11-07-2009, 01:44 AM
I'm convinced now more than ever this guy is going to New York next year, he couldn't have made it any more obvious. His whole body language and demeanor changed....like he was actually happy and genuinely having fun, unlike those fake-ass team pictures they take at the beginning of the games.

A girl can tease a guy for years and never fuck him.

I have no idea what LeBron is going to do next year.

I will say this, though: his act gets tiresome. It really does.

He's a great player.

He's also a 24-karat douchebag, frankly.

ginobili's bald spot
11-07-2009, 01:46 AM
He's a great player.

He's also a 24-karat douchebag, frankly.


:lol Wow, now I've seen it all.

JoeTait75
11-07-2009, 01:49 AM
:lol Wow, now I've seen it all.

I've never been enamored with LeBron as a person.

I think he's an attention-whoring tool.

As a fan, personally, I like Delonte and Z way, way better than LeBron. I liked Price, Daugherty, Nance and those guys better than LeBron too.

badfish22
11-07-2009, 01:55 AM
"I've thought about playing everywhere,” James said “At one point in my life, I've thought about playing every team in the NBA."

So according to James, he has once thought about dribbling down the court for the Memphis Grizzlies.

"We'll see what happens, I've never given any indication I'll leave Cleveland or be somewhere else."

Ummm....
Sure, Lebron......

JoeTait75
11-07-2009, 01:56 AM
If he leaves, which I think he's already headed to NJ, it will not look good on his resume. They've done everything to please him. Built the practice gym next to his home. Brought in players to help him, traded Braylen Edwards. Brought in a "Yes Man" coach.

Braylon didn't get traded because of LeBron. They were looking to deal him around the time of the Draft. The thing with LeBron was just the final nail in that coffin.

As big as LeBron is, he isn't as big as the Browns. The Browns own this city, it doesn't matter how shitty they are.

If LeBron is going, he should have the decency to let the Cavaliers know so they can set up a S&T. They really have catered to his every whim.

iggypop123
11-07-2009, 01:57 AM
what the hell was arod wearing?

j.dizzle
11-07-2009, 01:59 AM
what the hell do u guys expect..dude has "the chosen one" tatted on his back in like 72 font hahahaha

redzero
11-07-2009, 02:03 AM
http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photo_StoryLevel/080122/080122-lebron-vmed-6pA.widec.jpg

JoeTait75
11-07-2009, 02:06 AM
http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photo_StoryLevel/080122/080122-lebron-vmed-6pA.widec.jpg

That's exactly why LeBron is not as popular in Cleveland as you might think. Shit like that.

People here are in awe of his skills, and obviously they want him to stay here... but do they like him, by and large? Eh, I'm not so sure.

In terms of genuine affection, Joshua Cribbs is a much more popular Cleveland athlete than LeBron, for one.

mystargtr34
11-07-2009, 02:07 AM
I like LeBron.... but i woulnt mind seeing Kendrik Perkins or someone like that put him on his ass hard if he ever does all that showboating and tounge poking against the Celtics..... or any team without a roster full of human vaginas like the Knicks.

DPG21920
11-07-2009, 02:12 AM
Who did they bring in to help Lebron? They are treating him like Duncan and saying "you are good enough, go win...".

JoeTait75
11-07-2009, 02:20 AM
Who did they bring in to help Lebron? They are treating him like Duncan and saying "you are good enough, go win...".

In this league great teams are built through the Lottery. Cleveland has had one Lottery pick since LeBron came into the league and they blew it on Luke Jackson. They would have had a Lottery pick in 2005 but Jim Paxson traded that pick for Jiri Welsch.

Ferry has done a whale of a job considering the circumstances, but he hasn't had a whole lot to work with in terms of premium picks and tradeable talent.

Best-case scenario from our standpoint is LeBron re-signing, sitting out all of next season with an injury a la David Robinson in 1996-97 and the Cavaliers losing 60 games and falling into the Lottery. Seriously.

Bob Lanier
11-07-2009, 02:30 AM
or any team without a roster full of human vaginas like the Knicks.
Charming.

NewJerSpur
11-07-2009, 02:45 AM
If he leaves, which I think he's already headed to NJ, it will not look good on his resume. They've done everything to please him. Built the practice gym next to his home. Brought in players to help him, traded Braylen Edwards. Brought in a "Yes Man" coach.

Keep him away, please. Don't want to see his carrying on in-person whenever I go to a game. That said, that Shaq signing was a terrible idea. He's deadweight at this point in his career.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
11-07-2009, 02:46 AM
Well anyway.....after being pissed off about the lame ass party I just left......I completely agree with this thread. The shots he was taking at the end of the game were showboaty and selfish as fuck. The more this guy is treated like a god, the more of an asshole he becomes. What a selfish asshole.

ginobili's bald spot
11-07-2009, 02:50 AM
I've never been enamored with LeBron as a person.

I think he's an attention-whoring tool.

As a fan, personally, I like Delonte and Z way, way better than LeBron. I liked Price, Daugherty, Nance and those guys better than LeBron too.

I think it's a fair assessment, and it's certainly one that I agree with. I wasn't aware that Cleveland fans felt the same way though. The guy is an amazing talent but his personality has always rubbed me the wrong way. But then again, that can be said about a lot of NBA players. Guys like LeBron, Kobe and Jordan aren't normal people who have ever lead normal lives. having Boatloads of money and people worshiping you from a young age doesn't exactly lend itself to humility. So we probably shouldn't be surprised when these guys turn out to be assholes.

NewJerSpur
11-07-2009, 02:52 AM
I think it's a fair assessment, and it's certainly one that I agree with. I wasn't aware that Cleveland fans felt the same way though. The guy is an amazing talent but his personality has always rubbed me the wrong way. But then again, that can be said about a lot of NBA players. Guys like LeBron, Kobe and Jordan aren't normal people who have ever lead normal lives. having Boatloads of money and people worshiping you from a young age doesn't exactly lend itself to humility. So we probably shouldn't be surprised when these guys turn out to be assholes.

Just like Gatorade, "If it's in you, it's in you". Money and fame just make it worse.

JoeTait75
11-07-2009, 02:53 AM
Whoa Joe.

"I reported this on my NBA 411 segment on "Mike and Mike in the Morning'' today: According to information gathered from multiple league executives, DeJuan Blair was 10 seconds away from joining "King James'' and "The Big Shaquisition'' in Cleveland.

On draft night 2009, Cleveland offered Denver $2 million for the 34th pick. Cavs GM Danny Ferry thought it was essentially a done deal and had fingered Blair as the pick.

But with just 10 seconds left to make its selection, Denver was offered $2.25 million, a league record for the sale of a 34th pick, from the Houston Rockets. Because there was such a small amount of time left to make the pick, the Nuggets didn't have a chance to give Cleveland the opportunity to beat Houston's offer.

So the Rockets got the pick and instructed Denver to select Sergio Llull for them. Three picks later, San Antonio took Blair.

Of course, Cleveland could have gotten Blair at 30, but it took Christian Eyenga instead."

Blair would have been nice.

Okay, his draft record is a little spotty. I'd never even heard of the African dude they ended up picking.

Still, when you're picking at #20 and below it's pretty much a crapshoot. It's hard to ask a GM to build a championship team with low first-round picks. I can't think of one great team that was built that way, at least not off-hand.

If LeBron gets away, people are going to look back at the summer of 2004 when they let Boozer walk to Utah and wasted the 10th overall pick on Luke Jackson as the primary culprit. Those eff-ups are on the previous regime, not Danny Ferry.

picc84
11-07-2009, 02:58 AM
I think it's a fair assessment, and it's certainly one that I agree with. I wasn't aware that Cleveland fans felt the same way though. The guy is an amazing talent but his personality has always rubbed me the wrong way. But then again, that can be said about a lot of NBA players. Guys like LeBron, Kobe and Jordan aren't normal people who have ever lead normal lives. having Boatloads of money and people worshiping you from a young age doesn't exactly lend itself to humility. So we probably shouldn't be surprised when these guys turn out to be assholes.

They don't. I guarantee you its just this guy, the rest of Ohio loves him.

JoeTait75
11-07-2009, 03:02 AM
They don't. I guarantee you its just this guy, the rest of Ohio loves him.

Well, I'm not claiming to speak for everyone.

But I'm telling you, there are mixed feelings about LeBron here.

Keep in mind, the Cavaliers are the third team in this city, behind the Browns and the Indians. It's always been that way.

Indians fans weren't real thrilled about LeBron showing up at a Playoff game against the Yankees flashing Yankees gear.

Browns fans weren't real thrilled about LeBron hanging out with the Cowboys during the home opener in 2008.

People tend to have a low tolerance for prima-donna, look-at-me athletes around here. They like blue-collar, overachieving types, salt-of-the-earth. Guys like Bernie Kosar.

LeBron doesn't fit that mold.

LOL@MavsFan
11-07-2009, 03:08 AM
Lebron's the NBA's equivalent to Paris Hilton

ginobili's bald spot
11-07-2009, 03:11 AM
Because of the teams he roots for? That's a pretty dumb reason to not like a player. James Loney showed up to the Lakers v Houston game rooting for the Rockets and I reallllly couldn't care less. If Kobe would have come to the Dodgers game rooting for the Phillies I would've just laughed it off. Who gives a shit? I just don't see how that would have any bearing on how much you like a player.


Besides at least LeBron likes tOSU. :toast And that's all that matters.

duncan228
11-07-2009, 03:15 AM
The James has landed in New York (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/The-James-has-landed-in-New-York;_ylt=AlB_wFllWDQynvls3yRDtzG8vLYF?urn=nba,200 818)
By Kelly Dwyer
Ball Don't Lie

Only in New York City could a basketball player do everything right -- shoot with range, play tough defense, find his teammates with pinpoint passes, working with a sense of flair and drama all along -- and still have it come off as slightly gauche and unseemly.

That's what the Cavaliers' win over the New York Knicks felt like on Friday. An attention-drawing exercise to its core, bent on pumping up the "will-he-or-won't-he?" question regarding LeBron James' impending 2010 free agency, and a Knick team that would dearly love to sign him with its also impending 2010 cap space.

Cleveland's win? It hardly mattered. The team did well to rebound fully from a tough loss to Chicago the night before, as coach Mike Brown seemed willing to tinker with new starting lineups (Anderson Varejao out, J.J. Hickson in), while the defense and offensive spacing improved.

The story was James, though. And, to a far lesser extent, a Knicks club that seems more and more dispirited by the day. Sure, these Knicks were never any good to begin with. But they've lost that sense of joie de vivre that marked the team's turnaround campaign last season. They've stopped running, stopped working and appear to have stopped caring.

These Knicks should be expected to provide maximum effort. They are professionals, after all, playing in front of some of the most expensive tickets in sports.

But human nature is a hard cloud to steer your way out of, especially when things are dark and gloomy amongst the haze. And with no Knick knowing if they'll be back next year -- next month, next week -- it's hard to shake the feeling that you're a piece of impermanent property, meant to be flipped and turned for profit once July of 2010 hits.

LeBron James could not care less about the hurt feelings of his opponents. He was jawing with fans, chatting with Yankees sitting courtside and shaking hands with spectators from the beginning. Smiling from the outset, enjoying the hell out of all the attention this spectacle brought, and destroying the Knicks from the opening tip.

With jump shots, mind you. Low-percentage looks for any player, much less James, who still is an iffy outside shooter despite very noticeable fundamental changes in the way he tosses it up.

He's so damn good that he can get away with rubbing it in during the first quarter, essentially telling the Knicks that "not only are these fans wearing my jersey and chanting my name in your house, but I'm going to destroy you with the least-effective weapon in my arsenal. My worst is still better than your best. Way better. And Jay-Z answers on the third ring every time I call. I don't even call him that much."

This isn't to slam LeBron. Even at his relative young age (24), this is all he's known for years. But he does have an ego that even this town couldn't hope to house, and if he did sign with New York this summer, it would be because James is tackier and more gauche than we once gave him credit for.

And we think he can be pretty tacky.

We also think he's the best player in the game, and it's not even close.

He totaled 33 points, seven assists, nine rebounds, three steals, a would-be block that was termed a goal-tend by the referees and seven turnovers. And though it's annoying to hear every time he pinpoints a bounce pass in the right direction, James does look for his teammates out of instinct. Not because -- in order to appease any detractors -- he feels as if he has to mix it up.

Jeff Van Gundy tried to tell us during the game that he thinks it's obvious that James already knows where he's going, that he's just being coy about his intentions. I can't see how that can be the case for any right-thinking human. And James is a right-thinking human.

The Cavs could win 70 games this season. The Cavs could peter out at .500. The Knicks could find a taker for Eddy Curry and/or Jared Jeffries, and almost completely clear their cap space. Or, as presently constructed, they could roll into the offseason with about $27 million on the books next year, probably without about $25 million in cap space, most of which James would immediately eat up, with half a roster left to fill.

Point is, James can't possibly know in November what he's doing next July. There are too many variables and -- not sure if you've noticed -- several teams with loads and loads of cap space, Cleveland included. Some of them have much more cap space. One of them is owned, in part, by Jay-Z.

And as calculating and aware of his station as James is, let's give the man some credit, and assume that he hasn't assumed anything.

All those assumptions, after all, are important him. It drives up the attention, something he just can't stop helping himself to these days.

JoeTait75
11-07-2009, 03:16 AM
Because of the teams he roots for? That's a pretty dumb reason to not like a player. James Loney showed up to the Lakers v Houston game rooting for the Rockets and I reallllly couldn't care less. If Kobe would have come to the Dodgers game rooting for the Phillies I would've just laughed it off. Who gives a shit? I just don't see how that would have any bearing on how much you like a player.


Besides at least LeBron likes tOSU. :toast And that's all that matters.

James Loney is from Houston, though. LeBron is from around here. That's what pissed people off. If he was from the Metroplex and rooted for the Cowboys when they played in Cleveland people would have cut him more slack.

But at least he has the good sense to root for the Bucks.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
11-07-2009, 03:22 AM
James Loney is from Houston, though. LeBron is from around here. That's what pissed people off. If he was from the Metroplex and rooted for the Cowboys when they played in Cleveland people would have cut him more slack.

But at least he has the good sense to root for the Bucks.


The Bucks are actually a top tier team. Lebron is simply a bandwagon fan, idk what's so hard to see about that.

ginobili's bald spot
11-07-2009, 03:27 AM
The Bucks are actually a top tier team. Lebron is simply a bandwagon fan, idk what's so hard to see about that.

That's true. We saw how well he deals with losing last year in the playoffs. There is no way in hell he could be a Browns fan.

duncan228
11-07-2009, 03:36 AM
LeBron: Wins most important factor (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=sheridan_chris&page=sheridanlbj-091107)
By Chris Sheridan
ESPN.com

NEW YORK -- LeBron James dropped a bit of a bomb on the entire NBA when he spoke his final sentence Friday night before leaving Madison Square Garden, a statement that should leave everyone in Cleveland, New York and elsewhere -- especially in Miami -- wondering exactly what the King meant by those parting words.

"As a kid I visualized playing for almost every team in the NBA," James said. "Right now, I visualize playing with a lot of guys in the NBA. There are a lot of great individual basketball players that I would love to be alongside of and try to contend for an NBA championship.

"I think at the end of the day, a max deal or anything like that doesn't really matter to me at the end of the day. It's all about winning for me. So I've put myself in a position that when that day comes next summer, I want to win, and if I feel like the team is capable of winning, I'll make my decision like that."

Did you catch that part in the middle? The part about how a max deal doesn't really matter at the end of the day?

That, folks, could be a game-changer -- a statement of epic proportions that could shake up everyone's preconceived notions about who has the best chance of landing the game's best young player.

Cleveland, of course, can offer James the most money -- a six-year deal in the range of $120 million. The Knicks and the Nets have the salary cap space to give James the maximum they are allowed to offer -- a five-year deal in the mid-to-high $90 million range.

And then there are the Heat, who already have a max player in Dwyane Wade and who would like to add two more max-level players if Pat Riley can charm those two players into signing for something less than the max, giving all three players (let's assume Riley will shoot for the stars and go after James and Chris Bosh, while also retaining Wade) opt-out clauses after three years. Put those three together with Michael Beasley and Mario Chalmers, and that right there is a bona fide powerhouse.

And you know what? As farfetched as that idea sounds, it certainly became much more plausible after hearing what James had to say after dropping 33 points, nine assists and eight rebounds on the Knicks in a 100-91 victory Friday night.

It wasn't much of a game, the Cavs storming out to a 40-21 lead after one quarter and then holding off the Knicks for the rest of the evening, James providing the finishing touches after New York pulled within nine. First, he assisted on a jumper by Mo Williams, then after grabbing a defensive rebound, he sank one of the several fadeaway jumpers he was nailing all night. An assist on a corner 3 by Anthony Parker made it a 14-point game, and all there was to do after that was wait for the final horn and watch James walk over to shake hands with several member of the World Series champion New York Yankees, his favorite baseball team.

Asked what he'll remember most fondly about the night, he replied:

"The atmosphere, just that the atmosphere was great," James said. "There were a lot of stars in the building, and it's humbling to have guys like the Yankees come out and Jay-Z. It's really, really humbling to see some of the [football] Giants out, John Legend, I saw Chris Rock. You almost feel like you're a performer sitting on a stage, and they're watching you perform."

"Humbling" is a phrase you really wouldn't expect to come out of James' mouth, because humblers do not usually describe themselves as humbled.

James has already made it abundantly clear that he enjoys playing at Madison Square Garden more than any other arena in the league, and the vibrancy of New York makes it his favorite city in America.

But the guy strongly, strongly reiterated that winning is the No. 1 priority on his wish list.

(An aside here, but it shouldn't go unmentioned that he dressed differently, too, his fashion consultant outfitting him in a black ski cap, thick designer Dida eyeglasses and a black and white striped tie that somehow managing to blend with a black and white plaid shirt.)

So he looked a little different, and he sounded different, too, with that line about the max money.

Now we have that factor added to the equation -- along with James' pregame statement that "I'm not going to rush it" when it comes to making a decision soon after July 1.

At the very least, it most certainly adds an interesting wrinkle to the possibilities that'll be in play when the Summer of LeBron finally rolls around.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
11-07-2009, 03:38 AM
That's true. We saw how well he deals with losing last year in the playoffs. There is no way in hell he could be a Browns fan.

Yeah, but still, Snoop is the biggest bandwagon fan known to professional sports, Raiders/Steelers/Patriots/Lakers/Warriors/Dodgers fan.

ginobili's bald spot
11-07-2009, 03:42 AM
yeah, but still, snoop is the biggest bandwagon fan known to professional sports, raiders/steelers/patriots/lakers/warriors/dodgers fan.

/usc

NewJerSpur
11-07-2009, 03:43 AM
Yeah, but still, Snoop is the biggest bandwagon fan known to professional sports, Raiders/Steelers/Patriots/Lakers/Warriors/Dodgers fan.

He's not really a Stealers' (spelled like that on purpose) fan perse; that has more to do with his previous gang affiliations. Pittsburg's colors are the alternate to the set he's from in Long Beach, which makes it all the more hilarious when ESPN showed him in the booth waiving a towel and sporting the colors on opening night; they inadvertently were promoting all of that in attempts to try to make themselves look hip.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
11-07-2009, 03:44 AM
/usc


And probably UCLA for basketball. The USC football and UCLA basketball fans are a riot.

Allanon
11-07-2009, 04:38 AM
Jeff Van Gundy tried to tell us during the game that he thinks it's obvious that James already knows where he's going, that he's just being coy about his intentions. I can't see how that can be the case for any right-thinking human. And James is a right-thinking human.


I agree with Jeff Van Gundy. LeBron already knows where he is going to be next year.

Imagine if you had a job for 3 years and had the chance to have any job in the world. You would already know which job you're going to take.

jag
11-07-2009, 04:58 AM
I agree with Jeff Van Gundy. LeBron already knows where he is going to be next year.

Imagine if you had a job for 3 years and had the chance to have any job in the world. You would already know which job you're going to take.

If he came out and said that CLE was his choice, then the entire NY media fellate-fest would end. Now why would he want to do that? The man wants to be worshiped.

pauls931
11-07-2009, 05:05 AM
I like LBJ, but the league/sponsors are conditioning him to be a complete douche.

jag
11-07-2009, 05:06 AM
I like LBJ, but the league/sponsors are conditioning him to be a complete douche.

The league/sponsors didn't condition him to put "Chosen One" on his back.

HarlemHeat37
11-07-2009, 05:27 AM
He'd be an idiot not to come to NY..greatest city on the planet, best people on the planet, there's simply nowhere that even comes close..

cobbler
11-07-2009, 05:35 AM
He'd be an idiot not to come to NY..greatest city on the planet, best people on the planet, there's simply nowhere that even comes close..

...did you ever think that maybe, jus maybe, he really want to win a title?

Not happening in NY anytime soon.

HarlemHeat37
11-07-2009, 05:41 AM
There's a very unlikely chance it happens in Cleveland..

The Knicks don't have many contracts on the payroll..they're going to have Curry's massive expiring contract that they can dump next year..they can get another big-name next to Lebron, and they can easily build a team as good as Cleveland's mediocre supporting cast..

NBA is a superstar league, and Lebron is the best player right now..easily able to build a contender around him..

You don't pass up playing in NY..there's already a lot of buzz here about Lebron, I can only imagine what would happen if he signs here..you don't pass that up..

cobbler
11-07-2009, 05:49 AM
There's a very unlikely chance it happens in Cleveland..

The Knicks don't have many contracts on the payroll..they're going to have Curry's massive expiring contract that they can dump next year..they can get another big-name next to Lebron, and they can easily build a team as good as Cleveland's mediocre supporting cast..

NBA is a superstar league, and Lebron is the best player right now..easily able to build a contender around him..

You don't pass up playing in NY..there's already a lot of buzz here about Lebron, I can only imagine what would happen if he signs here..you don't pass that up..

I think when you are talking about players in Kobe, Lebron, Wade status the whole big/small market argument is antiquated. Lebron would be a star in Memphis. He is going to go with whatever team gives him the best chance at a title. I think the talk about Miami is interesting. They are talking like they would have the means to keep Wade and obtain LBJ along with another star.

I still think if Cleveland cannot get a comittment from him before the trade deadline that they would be foolish to not trade him and at least get something.

They even had an article here in LA speculating that a trade of Bynum, Odom or Artest, Walton and some picks could be done for him. All BS no doubt, but from a Cavs standpoint, and i dont think they have what it takes this year to contend, why not walk away with a package like that or something similar from another team as opposed to watching him walk away for nothing?

HarlemHeat37
11-07-2009, 06:19 AM
Cleveland doesn't have the balls to ask Lebron to make a decision by a certain deadline..absolutely not IMO..they wouldn't risk upsetting him by considering a trade..Lebron is a guy with an ego and is very sensitive from what we've seen of him..that wouldn't go over well IMO..

Obviously it would be in Cleveland's best interest, I just don't think they would risk upsetting him..if that ends up coming back to haunt them, the franchise will receive heavy backlash from the fans..

Lebron definitely comes off as a guy that loves the spotlight and wants the big city..I think there's a chance that he stays in Cleveland due to the hometown story and all, but he comes off as a guy that wants to play in NY..

Miami is possible, but I don't know if I see Wade staying there either..

It'll be an interesting Summer..

baseline bum
11-07-2009, 06:57 AM
I don't know. LeBron seems like such an attention whore he may just be leading NY on. With that roster, I don't know that I'd be too eager to go there unless they could also convince Wade or Stoudemire to come. Now New Jersey is a whole other story. Devin Harris and Brook Lopez would be the two best teammates James has had since Boozer left.

baseline bum
11-07-2009, 07:06 AM
Obviously it would be in Cleveland's best interest, I just don't think they would risk upsetting him..if that ends up coming back to haunt them, the franchise will receive heavy backlash from the fans..

Trading a franchise guy for marginal players is never in a team's interest. If the NBA didn't have a collective bargaining agreement that strongly punished players for leaving their current teams, I could see the argument more. That's going to be a lot of guaranteed money James will have to walk from to leave Cleveland. I'd take my chances that he wants to be paid no matter how bad it looks if I'm Danny Ferry.

Culburn369
11-07-2009, 07:10 AM
It's gonna be fine time doggin', teasin' & tormentin' James & his attendant minions over the years as he hunts in vain that ring. He'll get more money, but, he's going to play Hell gettin' that ring.

Muser
11-07-2009, 07:37 AM
Next summer is gonna be fun.

Spursmania
11-07-2009, 08:08 AM
It's gonna be fine time doggin', teasin' & tormentin' James & his attendant minions over the years as he hunts in vain that ring. He'll get more money, but, he's going to play Hell gettin' that ring.

I completely agree. The ring is elusive, and it won't be easy for James. But he's not staying in Ohio.

F_U_Buddy
11-07-2009, 10:42 AM
Lebronze completely lost me a few years ago when he told his moms to go sit her ass down after a players altercation versus the Celts. Zero respect for a cat like that... and all that dam mimic picture taking before games is silly as fuck. You'd never see Kobe doing stupid ass shit like that. Kobe's all about business...

KidCongo
11-07-2009, 10:51 AM
Lebronze completely lost me a few years ago when he told his moms to go sit her ass down after a players altercation versus the Celts. Zero respect for a cat like that... and all that dam mimic picture taking before games is silly as fuck. You'd never see Kobe doing stupid ass shit like that. Kobe's all about business...

'Ship his ass out'.

Colorado.

Public trade demands.

Shaq and Kobe feud.

Thought that had to be said but we don't want another Kobe/LeBron thread.

Also, LeBron is the biggest attention whore in the NBA. Always plays for the stats against the Knicks in the MSG. At least he went down to the post and scored and made some passes from there a few times.

F_U_Buddy
11-07-2009, 11:07 AM
'Ship his ass out'.

Colorado.

Public trade demands.

Shaq and Kobe feud.

Thought that had to be said but we don't want another Kobe/LeBron thread.

Also, LeBron is the biggest attention whore in the NBA. Always plays for the stats against the Knicks in the MSG. At least he went down to the post and scored and made some passes from there a few times.

none of that trumps cursing your mother in my book. and btw Kobe's demands got him another ring...while you Labor with Snaq on your team...

Culburn369
11-07-2009, 11:21 AM
I completely agree. The ring is elusive, and it won't be easy for James. But he's not staying in Ohio.

He'd have to get an easy seat somewhere else in order to ring quickly. Anything can happen though with Stern workin' the scope.

I want that James to suffer a good, long time before he gets relief.

Culburn369
11-07-2009, 11:24 AM
none of that trumps cursing your mother in my book.

So, you'd take Kobe up the kazoo rather than curse mother?:lol

TheMACHINE
11-07-2009, 11:33 AM
Didnt watch the game, but whats the diff bewteen what Kobe does in MSG and what Lebron does...based on the posts...seems like Kobe does the same things...doesnt he?

JoeTait75
11-07-2009, 11:40 AM
You don't pass up playing in NY..there's already a lot of buzz here about Lebron, I can only imagine what would happen if he signs here..you don't pass that up..

The buzz would only last so long, though.

After a couple of 45-win seasons and quick playoff exits, LeBron would look less like the Chosen One and more like pre-2009 A-Rod to New York fans.

Right now there's a honeymoon aspect to the vibe between LeBron and the people in New York. But that never lasts forever, and it certainly wouldn't if LeBron didn't deliver some hardware to those folks in fairly short order. All of a sudden the complaints about his game- that he dominates the ball, that he won't get down in the post, that he isn't "clutch" enough- would be magnified a hundred-fold under the glare of the New York media.

New Yorkers know their basketball like few other fanbases. They aren't going to blindly hero-worship anyone if they don't bring home titles. And LeBron would have a hard time doing that the way that team is set up.

If LeBron goes- and again, I don't know if he will or won't- he'll go somewhere he thinks he can win now. Miami or the Lake Show.

F_U_Buddy
11-07-2009, 11:57 AM
So, you'd take Kobe up the kazoo rather than curse mother?:lol

if I was greedy ass white bitch looking to score with the first famous dude that showed up..perhaps...but don't forget the chic in Colorado (according to her own dam friends) went to a party right after the so called rape and was bragging about Kobe's 14 inch dick size...Chics who just got raped don't do that shit...so we could go round and round on that one and I'll accept the court's descision in this case which is essentially Not Guilty...

Culburn369
11-07-2009, 12:04 PM
New Yorkers know their basketball like few other fanbases. They aren't going to blindly hero-worship anyone if they don't bring home titles. And LeBron would have a hard time doing that the way that team is set up.

If LeBron goes- and again, I don't know if he will or won't- he'll go somewhere he thinks he can win now. Miami or the Lake Show.


Every fandom knows their basketball equally, Joe.

*but, I'll grant ya on the James going where he can ring readily. Miami would be easier, but, the Morrison deal smacked of preemptive arranging/hoarding of monies like when they were jockeying for Daddy.

Culburn369
11-07-2009, 12:11 PM
if I was greedy ass white bitch looking to score with the first famous dude that showed up..perhaps...but don't forget the chic in Colorado (according to her own dam friends) went to a party right after the so called rape and was bragging about Kobe's 14 inch dick size...Chics who just got raped don't do that shit...so we could go round and round on that one and I'll accept the court's descision in this case which is essentially Not Guilty...

But, her friends weren't sworn. I got no problem with the court decision. I still think he raped her, but, he ain't no rapist and I'd a done the same thing to her, just with half the 14 inches and a Popsicle stick to act as splint in time of dire need.

He was so vulnerable. How he ever stood still instead of heading for the Lear & Italy is beyond me.

F_U_Buddy
11-07-2009, 12:18 PM
Didnt watch the game, but whats the diff bewteen what Kobe does in MSG and what Lebron does...based on the posts...seems like Kobe does the same things...doesnt he?

Difference is that Kobe is all about business. He may say hi to a few but he's not showboating, taking fake pictures, playing to crowd in a mystery of will he come or won't he. Smiling after each basket and looking all round for the camera's...Kobe is trying to win titles and Lebron is trying to gain acceptance and Love from the world. Until he realizes this he will win the next 3-4 MVP awards while Kobe's still winning titles. :lobt2:

An Unbiased Fan
11-07-2009, 01:17 PM
The Prince is headed for Brooklyn. They have Harris, Lopez, and the ability to sign him and another max player.

SenorSpur
11-07-2009, 02:52 PM
You'd think he was fucking Jay-z and A-Rod the way he was carrying on with them after he made a shot, not to mention the rest of the yankees and the MSG crowd. :wow

I'm convinced now more than ever this guy is going to New York next year, he couldn't have made it any more obvious. His whole body language and demeanor changed....like he was actually happy and genuinely having fun, unlike those fake-ass team pictures they take at the beginning of the games.

Guy was showboating like it was a Globetrotters game. "See what I can give you, New York!". I cant wait until they dedicate the Macy's Day Parade to his honor and send Eli Manning and Jeter personally to recruit him July 1st. :king of New York.

I will say what I've said all along. Why the fuck would a superstar leave a championship-contending team to go to one that perenially lottery-bound AND leave money on the table to boot?

Get over it folks. It aint gonna happen.

Allanon
11-07-2009, 03:01 PM
I will say what I've said all along. Why the fuck would a superstar leave a championship-contending team to go to one that perenially lottery-bound AND leave money on the table to boot?

Get over it folks. It aint gonna happen.

I don't think the Cavs are a championship caliber team. They're no different from last year; they demolish the non elite teams while struggle with elite teams. They're struggling with middlers right now like Toronto but I think they'll get over it. But against teams like Boston and Orlando; they have some major issues.

What's worse is next year; it's LeBron or bust because they have a chicken and the egg scenario. They'll have cap room but LeBron's going to wait and see who comes before he signs. And guys thinking about going to play with LeBron are going to wait for him to re-sign before joining up.

HarlemHeat37
11-07-2009, 03:25 PM
the Cavs are a potential top-tier team BECAUSE of Lebron..

Again, the Knicks are going to have enough cap room to get Lebron some help..it's not difficult to build a team as good as Cleveland's supporting cast right now, it really isn't that good..

DJB
11-07-2009, 04:11 PM
A girl can tease a guy for years and never fuck him.

I have no idea what LeBron is going to do next year.

I will say this, though: his act gets tiresome. It really does.

He's a great player.

He's also a 24-karat douchebag, frankly.

Hahahahaha