Is this the most potent Spurs offense ever?

[picnroll]

Robinson looks like he's nowhere near over the hill, that he was just hiding behind it. Spurs have four potetnial big time scorers in Duncan, Manu, Parketr, Robinson, that can realistically put up 20+ on any given night, with Barry, Horry, hopefully Brown standing in the wings.

Have the Spurs ever been this stacked on offense going into a playoffs?

[timvp]

Well, not ever. Those Gervin teams could put this team to shame offensively.

Of the Duncan era? Perhaps, but it's also a very streaky offensive team. Duncan is the only player you can count on game in and game out.

[picnroll]

I'll give you the Gervin era but then those games were 120+ point games. I'll give you streaky but when in recent era (since Robinson's rookie year) have the Spurs had a team where you had four players where it wasn't a stretch for them to put up 20+. The more guys that can do it, that might produce on any given night, the more that streakiness gets balanced out and muted.

[MadDog73]

Well, it all depends on the Playoffs. If this squad makes a better run to the Finals than the 2003 squad, then I think you have to say they are better!

[Jimcs50]

Not even close.

Examples

1983-84 Spurs:

Average 121 pts/game

7 players in double figures, 12 players scored at least 20 in a game, 4 players scored over 30 and 2 scored over 40.

Gervin- 26/game
Mitchell-23.3
Artis-16
Banks-13
Lucas 12
Moore-10
Jones-10


Next question.

:)

[Jimcs50]

This team is scoring 25 pts/game less than the 84 team.

That is a whole quarter less.

[picnroll]

Okay. Let me start over. How about since the Robinson era began. Since there was remotely something called defense being played.

[timvp]

I'll give you the Gervin era but then those games were 120+ point games. I'll give you streaky but when in recent era (since Robinson's rookie year) have the Spurs had a team where you had four players where it wasn't a stretch for them to put up 20+. The more guys that can do it, that might produce on any given night, the more that streakiness gets balanced out and muted.

I guess 2003 would be the closest, but you are right that Duncan, Parker and Manu can put up 20 points no problem. I'm not too sold on Glenn Robinson yet, but he's no doubt another scorer.

[MadDog73]

Thing is, Duncan, Parker and Manu were all around in 2003.

Plus Jackson, while not consistent, could score. And wouldn't you say Speedy was better than Beno?

Not convinced 2005 is a better offensive team.... yet.

[Jimcs50]

I guess 2003 would be the closest, but you are right that Duncan, Parker and Manu can put up 20 points no problem. I'm not too sold on Glenn Robinson yet, but he's no doubt another scorer.

In the Pop era, this is best scoring team

But that is like saying that Sequ is taller than anyone in Lilliput.

:)

[CosmicCowboy]

In the Pop era, this is best scoring team

But that is like saying that Sequ is taller than anyone in Lilliput.

:lmao

[smeagol]

In the Pop era, this is best scoring team

But that is like saying that Sequ is taller than anyone in Lilliput.

:)
For a Dentist, you are damn funny, Jim.

[Jimcs50]

For a Dentist, you are damn funny, Jim.


Thankyou smeagol...it is all in good fun...Sequ knows I love him.


:)

[TwoHandJam]

Thankyou smeagol...it is all in good fun...Sequ knows I love him.


:)
Gay love forum.

[TwoHandJam]

I guess 2003 would be the closest, but you are right that Duncan, Parker and Manu can put up 20 points no problem. I'm not too sold on Glenn Robinson yet, but he's no doubt another scorer.
Not sold on Robinson as a scorer?

Not many players have a career average > 20ppg. The guy is a born scorer.

[timvp]

Not sold on Robinson as a scorer?

Not many players have a career average > 20ppg. The guy is a born scorer.

:lol

Did you read what I wrote? I said he's a scorer. I'm not sold on him as far as his conditioning and knowledge of the Spurs' system.

[Jimcs50]

Gay love forum.


I get bored there....the only people in there are gay abc and Tpark.


:)

[picnroll]

Spurs have two excellent post up players, Duncan and Robinson.
They have two excellent penetrating guards, Manu and Parker.
They have five good to very good long ball threats, Brown, Horry, Manu, Barry and Beno.
They have good transiton players in Parker, Manu, Brown and Barry.
They have four guys that can reliably create their own shots, Duncan, Parker, Manu and Robinson.

I cannot see any Spurs team since the mid-80s that came anywhere close to this team's balance or threat on offense. The only team that can begin to match the Spurs versatility on offense is Dallas and I don't think Dallas has the low post offensive game that the Spurs can muster. If Robinson keeps it up the Spurs will be a match-up nightmare.

[bigbendbruisebrother]

Spurs have two excellent post up players, Duncan and Robinson.
They have two excellent penetrating guards, Manu and Parker.
They have five good to very good long ball threats, Brown, Horry, Manu, Barry and Beno.
They have good transiton players in Parker, Manu, Brown and Barry.
They have four guys that can reliably create their own shots, Duncan, Parker, Manu and Robinson.

I cannot see any Spurs team since the mid-80s that came anywhere close to this team's balance or threat on offense. The only team that can begin to match the Spurs versatility on offense is Dallas and I don't think Dallas has the low post offensive game that the Spurs can muster. If Robinson keeps it up the Spurs will be a match-up nightmare.

The playoffs are going to be fun.

[Obstructed_View]

The playoffs are going to be fun.
True Dat. Can't wait. I miss the old days where you could get four games a night.

[td4mvp21]

Well, not ever. Those Gervin teams could put this team to shame offensively.

Of the Duncan era? Perhaps, but it's also a very streaky offensive team. Duncan is the only player you can count on game in and game out.

Definitely not as streaky as past years. Parker brings it almost every night now. Ginobili's getting there. Rasho and Bowen are streaky. Bench as whole is pretty consistent in production, but individuals are streaky. BUt i definitely have a lot more faith in this years team than last years.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

i dunno, i still dont have faith in the spurs offense at all. if they are down and need a bucket i dont see them getting it. their offense becomes stagnant way way too many times

[Solid D]

The 2004-05 Spurs are definitely the best passing team they've had.

The 1994-95 Spurs were pretty incredible. That ended up being Houston's year but it was David's big MVP season where he was in the top 10 in 5 categories and the Spurs averaged over 106 ppg. They won a franchise-best 62 games that season.

David Robinson
Dennis Rodman
Sean Elliott
Vinny Del Negro
Avery Johnson
Bench
Chuck Person
J.R. Reid
Terry Cummings
Doc Rivers

[Nikos]

The most efficient offensive Spur team in the Duncan and Robinson era was in 2000-01
http://basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2001.html

They had the 3rd best offense in the league, along with the BEST defense (but not by a huge margin like they have the past two years).

The 1994-95 team had the 5th most efficient offense in the league, and the 6th best defense.
http://basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/1995.html

The 0001 team had the most efficient offense going by the stats. But they were exposed when DA was injured and Drob not being 100% against the Lakers. They flat out folded, but were still exposed as an offensive unit without their #2 and #3 options completely healthy and (foul free, cough cough DROB).

This year I think the Spurs are 6th in offensive efficiency, and #1 on defense by a solid margin. Last year they had the most efficient defense in NBA HISTORY (just a bit ahead of the Knicks of 93 and 94).

This years teams is just as balanced as 2000-01. But if they stay healthy, I doubt they get swept by any team in the playoffs like that team did. I hope they don't fold like they did in 2000-01.

I still wonder how the hell they lost so badly to the Lakers that year. Sure Lakers went 15-1, but the Kings and Sixers at least did not get completely embarrased pretty much EVERY GAME.

[manustarting2gd]

Spurs have two excellent post up players, Duncan and Robinson.
They have two excellent penetrating guards, Manu and Parker.
They have five good to very good long ball threats, Brown, Horry, Manu, Barry and Beno.
They have good transiton players in Parker, Manu, Brown and Barry.
They have four guys that can reliably create their own shots, Duncan, Parker, Manu and Robinson.

I cannot see any Spurs team since the mid-80s that came anywhere close to this team's balance or threat on offense. The only team that can begin to match the Spurs versatility on offense is Dallas and I don't think Dallas has the low post offensive game that the Spurs can muster. If Robinson keeps it up the Spurs will be a match-up nightmare.


Where do RASHO and TMASS fit in the offense? by the wayside I suppose. Well, Rasho sucks on offense,point blank. No helping ol' RASH-O. TMASS on the other hand, from eight to ten feet and in, is pretty dependable.

[TwoHandJam]

:lol

Did you read what I wrote? I said he's a scorer. I'm not sold on him as far as his conditioning and knowledge of the Spurs' system.
I read what you wrote but you didn't mention anything about knowledge of the Spurs system or conditioning in your post. It's hard to just guess that that's what you were talking about. I figured you meant you weren't sure whether he could become as prolific a scorer as he once was.

[picnroll]

Robinson doesn't seem to be a big systems guy on offense. He's a one on one player.,"Get me the ball, I'll get the man on my back and I'll go to work". Open shots with time is where he's shot the lowest percentage.

[TwoHandJam]

Robinson doesn't seem to be a big systems guy on offense. He's a one on one player.,"Get me the ball, I'll get the man on my back and I'll go to work". Open shots with time is where he's shot the lowest percentage.
I've noticed that too. He almost seems to operate better the more pressured the shot is. Not a bad quality to have.