Official Mark Aguirre/George Gervin Gameday Thread

[Findog]

http://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2009/11/11/1125920/mavericks-vs-spurs-game-8-preview

The Match-ups:



Point Guard

Jason Kidd: Everyone continues to make claims that Kidd simply cannot stand up against the young, quick point guards in the league, yet he continues to prove the naysayers wrong. Last night against the Rockets was no different. The Rockets Aaron Brooks was on fire in the first quarter, making acrobatic shot after acrobatic shot, but Kidd stayed steady and in the end it was the leadership and experience of Kidd that won out in the end.

vs.

Tony Parker George Hill: The Spurs 2008 first round draft choice should get his second consecutive start due to the ankle injury suffered by Tony Parker. Hill is a good shooting point guard, as he is shooting 46% from the field and 57% from beyond the arc. Make no mistake though he is not Tony Parker.

Edge:Mavericks

Shooting Guard

Josh Howard: Josh in his second game back had another solid scoring night, dropping in 14 points. Josh's ankle is still very tender and bothersome at times, this was very visible last night in the third quarter. Josh had to move very gingerly on it, and it is the ankle that is causing him difficulty getting the proper lift that he needs on his jump shot. Josh is going to be fine, the more he plays the better that tender ankle will get, and so will his jump shot.

vs.

Michael Finley: The first look at "Sir Bricks-A-Lot" of the year for the Mavs. Fin is going to make a few dazzling shots, but you can also count on several hideously ugly shots as well, and at least once he will dribble the ball off his feet. Finley's job these days is to simply stand behind the arc and then not to screw up when he gets the ball.

Edge: Mavericks. This match up is not even close, even with Howards bum ankle.

Forward

Shawn Marion: While Shawn did not have an extremely significant impact on the offensive end last night against the Rockets (10 points) it was his defense on Trevor Ariza that allowed the Mavericks to pull away from the Rockets. Once again though, his lack of trips to the free throw line is a major area of concern.

vs.

Richard Jefferson: Scoring wise Jefferson is off to his worst start since his sophomore season in the league. With the Spurs missing Duncan and Parker the bulk of the Spurs scoring will be left upon the shoulders of Jefferson and Ginobili tonight. Look for the Spurs to try to get Jefferson involved early and often.

Edge: Even. As good as Jefferson can be offensively the defensive prowess of Marion is that good as well.

Power Forward

Dirk Nowitzki: Dirk continues to struggle from the field, but he well makes up for it by getting to the line, and it is his energy that is keeping him and the team in games. Dirk has been somewhat quiet since his 29 point 4th quarter explosion, tonight could be the night that he flips the switch again.

vs.

Tim Duncan Antonio McDyess: While I have McDyess listed as the starter replacing Duncan do not be surprised if the rookie DeJuan Blair gets the nod. It is all going to depend on how Pop decides he wants to attack the Mavs. If he decides (and I think he will) to slow the pace down and turn the game into a half court beat and bang affair, the rookie will see a lot of action.

Edge: Mavericks. There are not many times the edge will not go to the Mavs as long as Dirk is here.

Center

Erick Dampier: It is amazing what a contract year will do for a player's ability. Suddenly Dampier is playing like he did in his final year in Golden State.

vs.

Matt Bonner: This guy is just not good, never has been and never will be. How is it possible for a center in the NBA over a six year career to average only 3 rebounds a game?

Edge: Mavericks. Not even close (did I just say, that the Mavs had the edge at center and it is not even close? I got to stop drinking so much)

Injuries/Suspensions

San Antonio Spurs

OUT - Tony Parker- Sprained ankle Tim Duncan- Sprained ankle

Dallas Mavericks

OUT - Tim Thomas- Recovering from knee surgery

Prediction: No Tim Duncan + No Tony Parker = No chance for the Spurs

Mavericks- 104

Spurs- 89

[Findog]

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The early word from San Antonio: The Spurs are getting old.
Oh, I’m just kidding … though The 75-Member Staff is commemorating the “doubtful’’ status of Tim Duncan and Tony Parker for tonight’s Mavs-at-Ugly-Ass RiverCity duel with an updating of the Spurs logo.
Click in for the new logo and for the injury update:




Like the Mavs, the Spurs have five All-Star nominees. Two of those are perennial stars Duncan and Parker. But neither played in Monday’s win over Toronto and neither participated in San Antonio’s practice on Tuesday.
Both players have ankle injuries. The Spurs' starting lineup without Timmy and Tony included George Hill at the point, Keith Bogans at the 2, Michael Finley at the 3, Richard Jefferson at the 4 and Theo Ratliff at center … but notably, with Manu Ginobili coming off the bench as a Sixth Man of the Year candidate.

[Findog]

So, uh, why did they call him "Ice?"

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[Findog]

Nevermind, I think I may know the answer:

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[Muser]

The Spurs have this guy called Ginobili, funny how he wasn't put in any of the matchups in the first post.

[Findog]

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[Findog]

The Spurs have this guy called Ginobili, funny how he wasn't put in any of the matchups in the first post.

You mean this guy?

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[Findog]

Ah hell yeah nigga:

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[Findog]

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[Muser]

:tu

[Findog]

It looks like the Spurs led the league in afros back in the seventies:

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[Findog]

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"That night we shared in Cabo was pure magic, baby."

"Don't ever change baby."

"When I look into your eyes I can see forever."

"We've only just begun."

"I want you inside me."

That moment in the movies right before they start to kiss.

[Findog]

Palms up Spurs fans!

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[Culburn369]

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Exquisite.

[Findog]

Exquisite.

Roy Tarpley's career was a tragic majesty.

[Culburn369]

Accurate appraisal, Fin.

[leemajors]

This should be lopsided with how the spurs have been playing.

[Findog]

This should be lopsided with how the spurs have been playing.

Classic trap game for the Mavs: Spurs' two best players are out (will they take them lightly?) and on the 2nd night of a b2b (fatigue).

[LOL@MavsFan]

LOL putting the same posts in 2 forums...

[Culburn369]

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"That night we shared in Cabo was pure magic, baby."

"Don't ever change baby."

"When I look into your eyes I can see forever."

"We've only just begun."

"I want you inside me."

That moment in the movies right before they start to kiss.

Fin, on a roll!!!!!!!!!:lol

[Findog]

LOL putting the same posts in 2 forums...

Some of the mouthbreathers don't know the NBA forum exists.

[LOL@MavsFan]

Some of the mouthbreathers don't know the NBA forum exists.

Ahhh I see....funny by the way.

[Culburn369]

Dallas gets the ESPN nod-a-rooney!



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Game Projection PTS Dallas Mavericks (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=dal) 98.1 San Antonio Spurs (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=sas) 95.6
Projected High-Scorer
Dirk Nowitzki (DAL) 22.0 pts
Live Betting Predictions
Point Spread AccuScore Probability Dallas Mavericks -1.5 51.2% San Antonio Spurs +1.5 48.8% Over / Under AccuScore Probability OVR 196 46.3% UND 196 52.1% Money Line AccuScore Probability Dallas Mavericks -120 54.3% San Antonio Spurs +109 45.6%

TEAM WIN % PTS BIG WIN CLOSE WIN dal 54.3% 98.1 28.8% 12.0% sas 45.6% 95.6 16.3% 13.8% Big Win is by 10 or more pts; Close Win is by 4 or less pts.


AccuScore Winning Percentage
AccuScore simulated this game over 10,000 times

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Dallas Mavericks
San Antonio Spurs

54.3%

45.6%




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Dallas Mavericks
Forecasts PTS FGM FGA FG% FTM FTA FT% 3PM 3PA AST STL TO OREB TREB BLK Dirk Nowitzki 22.0 8.2 18.0 46% 4.8 5.4 89% 0.7 2.3 2.3 0.8 1.6 1.0 8.1 0.9 Jason Terry 14.2 5.2 11.7 44% 2.2 2.7 84% 1.6 4.4 3.2 0.8 1.3 0.5 2.4 0.2 Josh Howard 13.8 5.0 11.4 44% 3.0 3.9 78% 0.7 2.2 1.5 0.6 1.4 1.0 4.5 0.4 Shawn Marion 12.3 5.1 10.6 48% 1.7 2.2 78% 0.3 1.2 2.1 1.2 1.5 2.2 7.5 1.0 Jason Kidd 7.8 2.7 6.7 41% 0.8 1.0 83% 1.5 3.4 6.6 1.2 1.8 0.8 5.5 0.4 Jose Juan Barea 6.6 2.5 6.2 41% 1.0 1.3 76% 0.6 1.8 2.9 0.3 1.0 0.4 1.9 0.1 Kris Humphries 6.4 2.5 5.3 48% 1.3 2.0 65% 0.0 0.0 0.5 0.3 0.7 1.1 3.9 0.3 Erick Dampier 5.8 2.4 4.0 60% 1.0 1.7 61% 0.0 0.0 0.8 0.4 0.9 2.5 6.8 1.4 DAL Benchwarmers 3.7 1.5 3.3 46% 0.2 0.3 76% 0.4 1.1 0.4 0.2 0.2 0.2 0.7 0.1 Quinton Ross 2.8 1.1 2.9 39% 0.4 0.5 80% 0.2 0.5 0.7 0.5 0.3 0.3 1.4 0.3 Drew Gooden 2.6 1.2 2.5 47% 0.3 0.4 81% 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.1 0.2 0.2 0.7 0.1 TOTAL 98.1 37.6 82.6 45% 16.9 21.4 79% 6.0 17.0 21.0 6.3 10.9 10.2 43.3 5.1
San Antonio Spurs
Forecasts PTS FGM FGA FG% FTM FTA FT% 3PM 3PA AST STL TO OREB TREB BLK Manu Ginobili 20.3 6.0 14.6 41% 6.2 7.0 88% 2.2 6.0 5.2 1.1 2.9 0.8 4.8 0.5 Richard Jefferson 15.9 5.1 11.9 43% 4.9 6.4 77% 0.8 2.4 2.9 0.5 1.9 0.7 4.0 0.1 George Hill 10.5 3.6 8.4 42% 2.7 3.5 78% 0.6 1.5 2.5 0.9 1.6 0.6 3.0 0.4 Roger Mason 10.1 3.5 9.1 39% 1.2 1.4 85% 1.8 4.7 2.5 0.5 1.4 0.2 2.8 0.2 Antonio McDyess 9.0 3.8 8.0 48% 1.4 2.1 67% 0.0 0.0 1.6 0.5 1.0 2.4 9.0 0.6 Matt Bonner 8.5 3.2 7.6 42% 0.7 0.8 86% 1.4 4.0 1.5 0.4 0.9 1.3 5.2 0.3 Michael Finley 7.4 2.8 6.1 45% 0.7 1.0 75% 1.2 2.8 1.3 0.2 0.7 0.2 2.2 0.1 DeJuan Blair 6.2 3.0 5.2 59% 0.1 0.5 30% 0.0 0.0 1.0 0.2 1.1 2.6 7.5 0.1 Keith Bogans 4.8 1.5 4.3 36% 0.7 0.9 81% 0.9 2.9 0.8 0.3 0.4 0.3 2.3 0.0 Theo Ratliff 2.2 0.9 2.0 45% 0.4 0.7 66% 0.0 0.0 0.2 0.1 0.4 0.6 2.0 0.6 SA Benchwarmers 0.7 0.3 0.6 43% 0.1 0.1 67% 0.0 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.5 0.1 TOTAL 95.6 33.7 77.8 43% 19.2 24.4 79% 9.0 24.4 19.6 5.0 12.2 9.7 43.1 3.1

[Findog]

Only way Dallas loses this game is if they think it's in the bag and don't show up.

[BlackBellamy]

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Dirk poses, showing off the Mavs championship trophy.

[Allanon]

No Tim, no Tony. Mavs should win by a landslide. But then again, they should have also beaten the Hornets.

[Findog]

No Tim, no Tony. Mavs should win by a landslide. But then again, they should have also beaten the Hornets.

No such thing as a lock with the Mavs.

[Findog]

Looks like Ice was a bit too coked up for this:

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[BlackBellamy]

It would be hard to find anyone in the era that could beat Pistol Pete in a game of HORSE.

[urunobili]

posting here > posting at the game thread at the spurs forum :tu

[dirk4mvp]

No Devin Harris or Desanga Diop for the Mavericks. Not looking good.

[Findog]

This is for you Culbs, the infamous Derek Harper brainfart game:

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[BlackBellamy]

posting here > posting at the game thread at the spurs forum :tu

Agreed, sometimes there are too many boot-lickers, bandwagoners and people that figure their post count actually reflects greater basketball knowledge in the Spurs forum.

[Findog]

No Devin Harris or Desanga Diop for the Mavericks. Not looking good.

Mavs never had a chance.

[Findog]

It would be hard to find anyone in the era that could beat Pistol Pete in a game of HORSE.

Yeah, but what pisses me off in that clip is that he doesn't even really try. Pistol's doing all sorts of behind the back, through the legs shit and when its Ice's turn, he just banks in his jumpers.

[BlackBellamy]

Yeah, but what pisses me off in that clip is that he doesn't even really try. Pistol's doing all sorts of behind the back, through the legs shit and when its Ice's turn, he just banks in his jumpers.

Ya, George looked a little lifted in that clip. Maybe that influenced his shot selection. Just be happy it wasn't Ice versus Rick Barry.

[redzero]

No Devin Harris or Desanga Diop for the Mavericks. Not looking good.

How can the Mavs stop Timmy without Diop? Oh, wait!

[mavs>spurs2]

Look for a career game from matt boner in a mavericks loss

[Muser]

Not holding much hope, at the most i'm hoping for the team to show life on the Defensive end.

[Xylus]

I think Findog's excited about this game.

Not sure who to root for. I'm a big Dirk/Marion/Terry fan, but a San Antonio win would help for seeding purposes...

I guess it doesn't matter since Dallas is going to win anyway.

[Findog]

I think Findog's excited about this game.

Not sure who to root for. I'm a big Dirk/Marion/Terry fan, but a San Antonio win would help for seeding purposes...

I guess it doesn't matter since Dallas is going to win anyway.

Win or lose, we're the funniest fanbase.

[Xylus]

Win or lose, we're the funniest fanbase.

That's right.

Mavs fans, just making the jokes they're supposed to make.

[Morg1411]

Dallas should win this one. Their offense is on fire, and the Spurs defense right now looks like shit. It may turn into an old fashioned Taxes shootout with scoring in the 120's range, but for some reason I don't see that happening.

If the Spurs somehow manage to win this, I'll be pleasantly surprise.

If Dallas somehow manages to screw this one and lose, I'll gain new admiration for their ineptitude.

[Morg1411]

Win or lose, we're the funniest fanbase.

I won't argue that. You fuckers are funny. :tu

[Ghazi]

Any team can lose on any given night to any other team in the NBA, so of course the Spurs can win.

But I don't think it'll be because of the Mavs taking the night off or anything. This team seems mentally different. We lost games 134-99 last year, 121-97, 102-74... lots of blowouts, lots of lucky close wins... based on the 7 games so far does anyone see that being replicated this year? I don't.

[Ghazi]

On top of my perception that the team has a better mentality its deeper as well. WE had games last year where Barea/Wright were the starting wings... now its Marion/Howard... Dampier has picked it up. Bubois is a nice sparkplug off the bench. Humphries/Gooden offset Bass... Ross despite being shitty is superior to Wright.

[Brazil]

easy win for the mavs except if superman alias Matt fucking Bonner shows again all his potential : dunks, 3s, hard Defense, bloks, rebounds all the arsenal...

[mavs>spurs2]

easy win for the mavs except if superman alias Matt fucking Bonner shows again all his potential : dunks, 3s, hard Defense, bloks, rebounds all the arsenal...

Matt Bonner is the shittiest player in the nba. There isn't a thing on this earth that he can do that will make a team win or lose. If we lose, it's because of some sort of meltdown. ha, matt bonner

[Culburn369]

I want Dallas, but, I'd be awfully surprised if the Spurs don't win.

[urunobili]

i expect RJ to own Marion and maybe we'll get a surprise good defender on Dirk...