David West pleased with coaching change

[BRHornet45]

http://www.nola.com/hornets/index.ssf/2009/11/post_6.html

"We're not going to be as predictable as we have been in the past. I know that, having played for Tim before," said West, a sixth-year veteran. "That's something I'm looking forward to, in terms of style of play."

West said that the team's philosophy wasn't working, and Scott's pride might have been a factor.

"We've had some conversations over the past couple of weeks, just trying to figure out what we could do to get the ship righted, but ... pride is a crazy thing," he said. "I think pride is a dangerous, dangerous thing. I think there was a sense a few guys weren't trusting what we had in terms of our system and our ability to know what we were going to get every single night from our system.

West said the players should be receptive to Bower and Floyd because "what we had wasn't working."

"I think the good thing is that we're 3-6, so getting back to .500 or in the right direction isn't something out of the realm of possibility."

[Spursmania]

Wow- it's like a Greek tragedy...

[Fpoonsie]

I'm sorry, Dave. I wasn't aware that it was Byron's fault you kept missing (or not even worrying about) rotation after rotation on defense.

Ass.

[BRHornet45]

David West is exactly right. Scott's pride got in the way of this team improving. Its that same pride that got him ran out of New Jersey as well.

[Purple & Gold]

Good thing the Hornets were able to get a Finals appearance or two out of Scott before they canned him.

[Riverwalkman]

Byron Scott > David West...in term of pride.

[BlackSwordsMan]

sons he's the best pf what he says is right

[SamoanTD]

i'm sorry, dave. I wasn't aware that it was byron's fault you kept missing (or not even worrying about) rotation after rotation on defense.

Ass.
+1

[The Franchise]

David west is also a big part of the problem in NO. If you're not running the plays how the fuck are they supposed to work?

[SenorSpur]

Perhaps West is right and Scott's pride was getting in the way. I wonder if pride is also the reason that West refues to assume any type of defensive responsibility. It's always easy to blame the coach, but the players need to accempt some of the blame too. Especially West.

[DPG21920]

Sons, but David West is an all-star.

[Riverwalkman]

I've got a question: Is Byron Scott's contract non-guaranteed or what?...Just kidding. Apparently he'll get paid despite his dismissal.

I wonder how much did he get paid per year? As far as I know Larry Brown gets 8M per year and Phil Jackson gets 10M.

[BRHornet45]

Scott is the type of coach that can take a team full of veterans and win. He's not the type of coach that can develop young players and build them over time. He was decent at best here mainly thanks to Chris Paul falling in his lap, but he failed miserably at developing any of our younger players. Once guys like Peja, Mo Pete, Posey, etc. started to go downhill, so did he because none of our younger guys were given a fair chance to develop.

[JJ Hickson]

This bitch made nigga needs to worry about becoming more than a front running one dimensional jump shooter before he criticizes how other people do their jobs.

[BRHornet45]

I've got a question: Is Byron Scott's contract non-guaranteed or what?...Just kidding. Apparently he'll get paid despite his dismissal.

I wonder how much did he get paid per year? As far as I know Larry Brown gets 8M per year and Phil Jackson gets 10M.

I'm pretty sure Scott is getting $5M per year. nice payday for a guy who's coach of the year award was won by Chris Paul.

[SamoanTD]

http://www.nola.com/hornets/index.ssf/2009/11/post_6.html

"We're not going to be as predictable as we have been in the past. I know that, having played for Tim before," said West, a sixth-year veteran. "That's something I'm looking forward to, in terms of style of play."

West said that the team's philosophy wasn't working, and Scott's pride might have been a factor.

"We've had some conversations over the past couple of weeks, just trying to figure out what we could do to get the ship righted, but ... pride is a crazy thing," he said. "I think pride is a dangerous, dangerous thing. I think there was a sense a few guys weren't trusting what we had in terms of our system and our ability to know what we were going to get every single night from our system.

West said the players should be receptive to Bower and Floyd because "what we had wasn't working."

"I think the good thing is that we're 3-6, so getting back to .500 or in the right direction isn't something out of the realm of possibility."
so now that byron is gone NO will be one of the best teams this year by the end?:lol

[BRHornet45]

so now that byron is gone NO will be one of the best teams this year by the end?:lol

yep. 76-6

[mavs>spurs2]

sons the shittiest player to ever make an all star game has spoken

[BRHornet45]

sons the shittiest player to ever make an all star game has spoken

no son that would have been Josh Howard

[dirk4mvp]

sons I think we're forgetting Wally Szczerbiak has made the all star team before.

[djohn2oo8]

sons the shittiest player to ever make an all star game has spoken

+1

[mogrovejo]

Worst All-Star ever was another NOHornets big, but not West.

[SamoanTD]

yep. 76-6
:lmao I like your confidence

[BRHornet45]

sons the only thing Howard did better than West in their all star years was stealing the ball .... barely. everything else West dominated him in ...

BOTH of David West's All Star years

2007-08:

20.6 PPG
8.9 RPG
2.3 APG
0.8 SPG
.482 FG%

2008-09

21.0 PPG
8.5 RPG
2.3 APG
0.6 SPG
.472 FG%


Josh Howards All Star year

2006-07

18.9 PPG
6.8 RPG
1.8 APG
1.2 SPG
.459 FG%

[Danny.Zhu]

He shouldn't have said that.

[mavs>spurs2]

sons the only thing Howard did better than West in their all star years was stealing the ball .... barely. everything else West dominated him in ...

BOTH of David West's All Star years

2007-08:

20.6 PPG
8.9 RPG
2.3 APG
0.8 SPG
.482 FG%

2008-09

21.0 PPG
8.5 RPG
2.3 APG
0.6 SPG
.472 FG%


Josh Howards All Star year

2006-07

18.9 PPG
6.8 RPG
1.8 APG
1.2 SPG
.459 FG%

Son with the exception of assists, you could say that for EVERY wing compared to a big man. typically, big men grab more rebounds and shoot a higher % than guards. Josh actually had defense back then, and that alone puts him ahead of David "i like to shoot the ball, but i dont like to defend it" West

[BRHornet45]

Son with the exception of assists, you could say that for EVERY wing compared to a big man. typically, big men grab more rebounds and shoot a higher % than guards. Josh actually had defense back then, and that alone puts him ahead of David "i like to shoot the ball, but i dont like to defend it" West

son I am not a big fan of West, but you would be a fool to take Howard over him.

[Roxsfan]

After the Hornets have the inevitable "we just got a new coach-winning streak," they will go back to sucking. Why, b/c they suck.

[BRHornet45]

After the Hornets have the inevitable "we just got a new coach-winning streak," they will go back to sucking. Why, b/c they suck.

how bout dem Texans?

[ElNono]

West is being the douche he's supposed to be. And while coach Scott has a big ego, West is not far behind.

[himat]

Whenever I think of David West I think of this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiAvh2GC9hE

:lol I am not a fan. That "system" and Chris Paul jacked his stats up. When you think of legitimate 20/10 players he never should come into our mind.

He is a very solid player. All Star? I would have chosen some players above him.

[DPG21920]

He is really overrated. Solid player, had a spike in production, but not an "all-star". He is not even really a good second option. If he was, the Hornets with a top 5-10 player in Paul would be a lot better.

Spurs had Duncan+Parker+Gino + very average players and won titles.

NOH has Paul+West+Okafor and suck something fierce. We know Paul is legit. So that means West is clearly not that good of a second option.

[DMX7]

Peja is such a scrub. I can't believe how much money they gave him.

[Darrin]

I think this is a personnel problem. As stupid as it may sound, teams are able to take the ball out of Paul's hands and play the passing lanes and the entire team is shut down offensively. He is the only one who can pass. Everyone else puts the ball on the floor and drives to the rim or spot-shoots. This leads to many, many offensive fouls (charges), turnovers, and bad shots. Also, when the offense doesn't click, you can run off the dead-ball because they stand around and talk about it. When they had Jannero Pargo, Bobby Jackson, or Mike James on the team, you could force the ball out of his hands and the Hornets still were dangerous because they had another play-maker on the floor. Now, the ball is put on the ground, drawing lots of offensive-fouls, or is passed in standing positons only.

[ElNono]

I can't wait to see this douche playing on another team without mini-douche CP3 making him look good. I can see this guy being another Drew Gooden...

[ShoogarBear]

Worst All-Star ever was another NOHornets big, but not West.

Jamaal Magliore

[Riverwalkman]

How about Glen Rice winning an all-star MVP? As a Hornet.

[Tmac&Luther]

Sons, but David West is an all-star.

:rolleyes Carl Landry > David West..........yeah I said it and it's the truth.

[Tmac&Luther]

how bout dem Texans?

:lol Those Saints are beasting... I'm a fan of both teams and as long as the Saints can stay healthy, I don't see anybody in the NFC stopping them...not even the Vikes. If they meet Pittsburgh though...that will be one hell of a SB.


On a another note, the Texans do have alot of talent, it's just Steve Slaton (and the other backs) won't quit putting the ball on the ground and their running game is killing them

Brian Cushing is a BEAST! though. Sons...he's gonna be DROY fo' sho

[The TroutBum]

LOL @ the Hornets. Gods, I love watching you suck ass. I actually can't wait until hurricane season either, because there's nothing I love more than watching that shit hole of a city get torn asunder.

God bless.

[redzero]

LOL @ the Hornets. Gods, I love watching you suck ass. I actually can't wait until hurricane season either, because there's nothing I love more than watching that shit hole of a city get torn asunder.

God bless.

We're in hurricane season, you inbred Mormon hick.

Oh, and last I checked, the Jazz aren't doinng so well either.

[The TroutBum]

We're in hurricane season, you inbred Mormon hick.

Oh, and last I checked, the Jazz aren't doinng so well either.

They aren't? Son of a bitch...

[The Third Man]

LOL @ the Hornets. Gods, I love watching you suck ass. I actually can't wait until hurricane season either, because there's nothing I love more than watching that shit hole of a city get torn asunder.

God bless.

You are a fucking dick. Go shoot yourself.

[Tmac&Luther]

LOL @ the Hornets. Gods, I love watching you suck ass. I actually can't wait until hurricane season either, because there's nothing I love more than watching that shit hole of a city get torn asunder.

God bless.

:rolleyes Stay classy

[Hornets1]

They aren't? Son of a bitch...

3-5 you stupid fucking Mormon

Joseph Smith is looking down on you and you wives.

BTW, byron scott leaving the hornets is the best move we have made so far this year. His system sucked, he was full of himself, and really close-minded. Maybe now we can develop our young players.

[lefty]

Overrated David Weste talking about predictability??? :lmao

Jump-shooter........jump-shooter.........jump-shooter......................

[jack sommerset]

That is why you don't consult players on coaching changes. Especially head coaches. Too many opinions. Too many chiefs when it's obvious there should only be one!

[Culburn369]

That is why you don't consult players on coaching changes. Especially head coaches. Too many opinions. Too many chiefs when it's obvious there should only be one!

Mitch consulting Kobe on the return of Phil withstanding.

[The Franchise]

LOL @ the Hornets. Gods, I love watching you suck ass. I actually can't wait until hurricane season either, because there's nothing I love more than watching that shit hole of a city get torn asunder.

God bless.

Spoken like a true dummy Mormon.

[SamoanTD]

He is really overrated. Solid player, had a spike in production, but not an "all-star". He is not even really a good second option. If he was, the Hornets with a top 5-10 player in Paul would be a lot better.

Spurs had Duncan+Parker+Gino + very average players and won titles.

NOH has Paul+West+Okafor and suck something fierce. We know Paul is legit. So that means West is clearly not that good of a second option.
how can you even start to compare that? :nope

[Goran Dragic]

Wow- it's like a Greek tragedy...


You say that everything.....are you a hairy greek or something?

[stretch]

david west is such a cockfaced douchenozzle

he deserves to be flogged

[Ghazi]

Agree

[sonic21]

he's clearly overrated. He was just making some shoots 2 years ago.

[lefty]

Overrated David Westette

[Chris Paul]

Im not pleased with this coaching change, nuff said. Im gunna miss Byron sooo much, I love him man. He was the first coach I had, I love coach. He taught me that I have to hold the ball 96% of the game, to whine when things aren't going my way, to fall when Im touched, and to bark at anyone who makes me mad. Man, he taught me soo much. I love you Bryon Scott!!

[SenorSpur]

Scott is the type of coach that can take a team full of veterans and win. He's not the type of coach that can develop young players and build them over time. He was decent at best here mainly thanks to Chris Paul falling in his lap, but he failed miserably at developing any of our younger players. Once guys like Peja, Mo Pete, Posey, etc. started to go downhill, so did he because none of our younger guys were given a fair chance to develop.

Agreed.

Scott gave up on Stephen Jackson (while coaching the Nets) and J.R. Smith, among others. He also failed to develop Julian Wright and Hilton Armstrong. I fully understand the pressure young head coaches are under to WIN NOW. That pressure and those expectations come from fans, media and ownership. Still, you can't simply build a team around ALL veterans. It doesn't make sense talentwise or financially. Besides older players get hurt more too. Young players do make mistakes, but the right ones with the appropriate work ethic can energize a rosters and fill in some gaps - if developed.

Scott is certainly at fault for never developing a backup PG behind Paul or for the young players they let get away. However, the GM (Bower) is responsible for the overly-inflated contracts to Peja, Posey and others. Now, he gets the pleasure of coaching them.

[duhoh]

david west on the all star game was painful to watch. i understand in the year it was being held in NO, but after that? WTF mate?

[pjjrfan]

I think West should just shut up and play better as should the whole team. I don't think Scott is a bad coach, but irregardless of how good or bad he is it's obvious he had lost the team and his best player and that can't happen and changing the coach is probably the Hornets best option. Fair or unfair to Scott, he can't lead if no one is going to follow.

[Darrin]

Agreed.

Scott gave up on Stephen Jackson (while coaching the Nets) and J.R. Smith, among others. He also failed to develop Julian Wright and Hilton Armstrong. I fully understand the pressure young head coaches are under to WIN NOW. That pressure and those expectations come from fans, media and ownership. Still, you can't simply build a team around ALL veterans. It doesn't make sense talentwise or financially. Besides older players get hurt more too. Young players do make mistakes, but the right ones with the appropriate work ethic can energize a rosters and fill in some gaps - if developed.

Scott is certainly at fault for never developing a backup PG behind Paul or for the young players they let get away. However, the GM (Bower) is responsible for the overly-inflated contracts to Peja, Posey and others. Now, he gets the pleasure of coaching them.

Richard Jefferson.

[himat]

Stick a fork in them. They are done. Down 43-56 to Portland in the 3rd quarter. If they lose they will be 3-7 and things could only get worse. CP3 is gone when he is a free agent and David West will look average when that happens.