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gaKNOW!blee
11-13-2009, 02:03 PM
wtf?

Allanon
11-13-2009, 02:06 PM
Yes, I've been waiting for him to drop but that dude is just killin' it on the boards.

Dwight's having a sub-par year so far.

Muser
11-13-2009, 02:07 PM
Joint leader with Noah.

BlackSwordsMan
11-13-2009, 02:21 PM
blair is 3rd?

Allanon
11-13-2009, 02:23 PM
blair is 3rd?

Not in straight rebounding totals. He doesn't play enough minutes to rank that high.

But you are correct that Blair is 3rd if you look at per48 minute rebounding.

Blair's rebounds are very high relative to the number of minutes he plays.

Ghazi
11-13-2009, 02:23 PM
Contributing factors are Charlotte's shit frontline, 30th ranked offense, and 6th ranked defense ... lots of boards to be had and he was a good rebounder regardless.


Still neat stat though, although he's shooting 35% from the field.

SamoanTD
11-13-2009, 02:25 PM
hes gotta do something right lol

lefty
11-13-2009, 02:32 PM
He also leads the league in missed dunks.

AussieFanKurt
11-13-2009, 04:49 PM
He smashed a highlight reel dunk in not long ago

mogrovejo
11-13-2009, 05:01 PM
Meh... raw rebounding numbers are useless, as other poster said he has plenty of opportunities to rebound and little competition from his own teammates, so his numbers are inflated.

The best metric is rebounding rate. His numbers are stellar for a F, but he's far from being the leader.

1. Greg Oden (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/odengr01.html)-POR 22.3 2. Erick Dampier (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/dampier01.html)-DAL 20.9 3. Joakim Noah (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/noahjo01.html)-CHI 20.8 4. Dwight Howard (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/howardw01.html)-ORL 20.5 5. Emeka Okafor (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/okafoem01.html)-NOH 19.6 6. Luis Scola (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/scolalu01.html)-HOU 19.2 7. Ben Wallace (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wallabe01.html)-DET 18.9 8. Udonis Haslem (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hasleud01.html)-MIA 18.8 9. Chris Bosh (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boshch01.html)-TOR 18.7 10. Brendan Haywood (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/haywobr01.html)-WAS 18.0 11. Carlos Boozer (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boozeca01.html)-UTA 17.9 12. Marc Gasol (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gasolma01.html)-MEM 17.8 13. Marcus Camby (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/cambyma01.html)-LAC 17.8 14. Gerald Wallace (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wallage01.html)-CHA 17.6
This forum could use an aggiornamento on basketball stats, btw.

gaKNOW!blee
11-13-2009, 05:13 PM
Meh... raw rebounding numbers are useless, as other poster said he has plenty of opportunities to rebound and little competition from his own teammates, so his numbers are inflated.

The best metric is rebounding rate. His numbers are stellar for a F, but he's far from being the leader.

1. Greg Oden (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/odengr01.html)-POR 22.3 2. Erick Dampier (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/dampier01.html)-DAL 20.9 3. Joakim Noah (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/noahjo01.html)-CHI 20.8 4. Dwight Howard (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/howardw01.html)-ORL 20.5 5. Emeka Okafor (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/okafoem01.html)-NOH 19.6 6. Luis Scola (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/scolalu01.html)-HOU 19.2 7. Ben Wallace (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wallabe01.html)-DET 18.9 8. Udonis Haslem (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hasleud01.html)-MIA 18.8 9. Chris Bosh (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boshch01.html)-TOR 18.7 10. Brendan Haywood (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/haywobr01.html)-WAS 18.0 11. Carlos Boozer (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boozeca01.html)-UTA 17.9 12. Marc Gasol (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gasolma01.html)-MEM 17.8 13. Marcus Camby (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/cambyma01.html)-LAC 17.8 14. Gerald Wallace (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wallage01.html)-CHA 17.6
This forum could use an aggiornamento on basketball stats, btw.

Whatever list you just gave is retarded. He gets the most rebounds...plain and simple. If its so easy to get all these rebounds, why cant any big man beat him? I mean they dont have any competition from their teammates either since they are all smaller right?

mogrovejo
11-13-2009, 05:22 PM
Whatever list you just gave is retarded. He gets the most rebounds...plain and simple. If its so easy to get all these rebounds, why cant any big man beat him? I mean they dont have any competition from their teammates either since they are all smaller right?

Here's a simple concept for you, kid: you can only rebound missed shots. Get it? Maybe not. For example, if player X plays for a very slow-tempo team that plays very bad defence, he won't get many opportunities to rebound the ball - the number of possessions is lower, so the number of shots taken is also lower, plus they can't get stops so the number of missed shots is even lower. On the other hand, a guy playing for an up-tempo team with great defence will get plenty of opportunities to rebound - their opponents will miss tons of shots (more possessions, more shots, better defence-> more missed shots). Then you have playing time - I hope I don't have to explain this on detail.

What matters is the number of rebounds a guy gets when he's on the floor relatively to his opportunities. For every 100 missed shots that happen when Wallace is on the floor (so 100 rebounding opportunities), he gets 17 rebounds. Oden, Dampier, Howard and Noah get more than 20. Who's the better rebounder?


The game (and stats) shall be studied from a "per possession" point of view. Not doing it is the reason why some retarded fans still buy the myth that D'Antoni's Suns were horrible defensive teams, when in fact they were average at worst.

If you think this is retarded, why do every coach and FO analyze the game in terms of possessions? Heck, Dean Smith was already doing it 30 years ago. Catch up, kid.

gaKNOW!blee
11-13-2009, 05:36 PM
Here's a simple concept for you, kid: you can only rebound missed shots. Get it? Maybe not. For example, if player X plays for a very slow-tempo team that plays very bad defence, he won't get many opportunities to rebound the ball - the number of possessions is lower, so the number of shots taken is also lower, plus they can't get stops so the number of missed shots is even lower. On the other hand, a guy playing for an up-tempo team with great defence will get plenty of opportunities to rebound - their opponents will miss tons of shots (more possessions, more shots, better defence-> more missed shots). Then you have playing time - I hope I don't have to explain this on detail.

What matters is the number of rebounds a guy gets when he's on the floor relatively to his opportunities. For every 100 missed shots that happen when Wallace is on the floor (so 100 rebounding opportunities), he gets 17 rebounds. Oden, Dampier, Howard and Noah get more than 20. Who's the better rebounder?


The game (and stats) shall be studied from a "per possession" point of view. Not doing it is the reason why some retarded fans still buy the myth that D'Antoni's Suns were horrible defensive teams, when in fact they were average at worst.

If you think this is retarded, why do every coach and FO analyze the game in terms of possessions? Heck, Dean Smith was already doing it 30 years ago. Catch up, kid.

This is coming from the fag that doesnt like to watch Lebron and Wade play^

What are you? fucking 60? Maybe we can get some old Rick Barry underhand freethrow footage for you to masturbate to.

mogrovejo
11-13-2009, 05:41 PM
This is coming from the fag that doesnt like to watch Lebron and Wade play^

What are you? fucking 60? Maybe we can get some old Rick Barry underhand freethrow footage for you to masturbate to.

That's a powerful argument. You're clearly right on this. :depressed

Mel_13
11-13-2009, 05:51 PM
Whatever list you just gave is retarded. He gets the most rebounds...plain and simple. If its so easy to get all these rebounds, why cant any big man beat him? I mean they dont have any competition from their teammates either since they are all smaller right?

There's nothing retarded about it. It just accounts for the number of rebounds available in order to make a comparison.

Consider field goals made and field goal percentage.

One player shoots 15-30 while another shoots 10-10. The first records more field goals because he has more opportunities. The second is clearly a better shooter.

Rebounding percentage applies the same principle to rebounding.

TheProfessor
11-13-2009, 05:51 PM
This is coming from the fag that doesnt like to watch Lebron and Wade play^

What are you? fucking 60? Maybe we can get some old Rick Barry underhand freethrow footage for you to masturbate to.
You got destroyed. Accept it and move on.

monosylab1k
11-13-2009, 05:59 PM
Remember a year ago when a bunch of Mavs fans scoffed the notion of a Josh Howard for G-Wallace trade because Wallace was too inconsistent and injury prone?

Ghazi
11-13-2009, 06:01 PM
G-Force ain't shit son.

spursfan1000
11-13-2009, 07:36 PM
Good for him, not everyday a SF leads league in rebounding.

Tmac&Luther
11-13-2009, 07:47 PM
As soon as Dwight's balls drop he should take that over again.