Derek Fisher gettin' his flopping on

[TJastal]

Did anyone catch that monster FLOP by Derek Fisher at 5:15 in the 2nd quarter of the Laker-Nugget game last night taking away a sure fast break dunk by Carmelo Anthony.

Announcer: "That was a beautiful fake by Derek Fisher on that push off by Carmelo Anthony. He's gotta go back to the bench obviously."

For all the rah-rah that spurs fans hear about Ginobili and hornets fans hear about Chris Paul, I find it odd that Derek Fisher somehow never gets mentioned in the list of biggest floppers.

To me, this guy is head and shoulders the all-time KING of flopping and all around subterfuge and it amazes me that even to this day that these "veterans" of officiating still fall for all of his bag of bullshit tricks which he's been using for well over a decade now. What a friggin' joke, bring back the replacement refs already....

[21_Blessings]

He doesn't get mentioned on the list because he's the best flopper there is. Fisher makes all his flops look like good hustle plays and then acts the victim part perfectly. Pro status.

That's not to say Ginobili doesn't flop more, because he certainly flops more than Fisher. Nose just sucks at it. Much like Chris Paul.

[spursfan1000]

Are you seriously going to make a thread for people who flop? A lot of players in the NBA flop and get away with it.

[cobbler]

Announcer: "That was a beautiful fake by Derek Fisher on that push off by Carmelo Anthony. He's gotta go back to the bench obviously."


Laughing at anyone posting on a comment or opinion by Rick Puker.

Pathetic.

[iggypop123]

well at least fisher doesnt flop on offense. but i would agree there needs to be a rule. ejection for a flop

[cobbler]

Give them a flopping T. You get 3 Flopping T''s one game suspension. The flops will stop almost immediatly.

[Shastafarian]

Fisher's also pretty good at using his daughter's illness to sign with the team he really wants to play for.

[RsxPiimp]

fisher is a pretty good flopper, true, but that offensive fould on billups was a legit call. blame kenyon marton for not telling billups that fisher was waiting for a charge. billups took that ball and collided with fisher. that was smart ball from fisher.

[EmptyMan]

Fisher is an interesting cat. You want to like him. He seems like a great respectable professional.

But then you remember the real Fisher. The evil monster that pulled the trigger on that devastating shot years ago. The one that used his little girl to get back to L.A. The flopper.

[Shastafarian]

It was either that or stay in that hell called Utah.

As long as you're cool with him using his daughter's illness to cuckold an entire city.

[Shastafarian]

:tu

You as equally ok with him being so terrible on defense?

[djohn2oo8]

damn, lakaluva stays on here 24/7...so luva, do u ever take a break to get some pussy? or do u just beat off to Kobe day n night?

[djohn2oo8]

I'm fucking you in about 10 minutes. You are right on time, bitch.

That's classic...Is that what Artest told Kobe?

[mogrovejo]

The only thing more annoying than flopping is people complaining about flopping.

[Shastafarian]

No, but I am ok with him hitting those clutch shots, you?

I would enjoy living in the past as well if I was an over-the-hill PG who has nothing left.

[TJastal]

New update.

Rockets / Lakers 4:33 in the 4th. Rockets up 12. Lakers need a big play. What time is it? Time of course for Fisher to get his flop on of course.

FSH announcer: And an offensive foul on David Anderson.

Other announcer: Ahh, Derek Fisher one of the best in the league running into the pick and flipping (I.E. FLOPPING) his head back, getting the call.

FSH announcer: Yep.

Other announcer: David Anderson is not aware of how good Derek Fisher is at the FLOP.

:rolleyes

[TJastal]

Are you seriously going to make a thread for people who flop? A lot of players in the NBA flop and get away with it.

Most guys flop occassionally (Paul, Ginobili, Varejao, etc) and some get away with it more than others.

And then there's a guy in his own special class of floppers, Derek Fisher.

Derek Fisher deserves a special dedicated thread because of the alarming frequency of his flops (every game practically), and the rate that he gets away with it (100% success rate). The officials literally fall hook, line, and sinker every time and I truly don't understand why. His flops are so over the top from the minimal contact he recieves... its downright baffling why these so called "veterans" of officiating have been falling for his shenanigans for the better part of a decade.

It truly either A) speaks of their incredible ineptitude, or B)speaks of their crookedness.

This guy has single handedly degraded the the game more than any other player to ever play IMO.

[ElNono]

He's just not quick enough to flop on Brooks anymore...

[TJastal]

Well that's 2 games in a row now that Fisher has gotten his flop on. I'll bump this thread every time I see the little fucker flop. If I happen to miss a game, feel free to post updates. :D

[TJastal]

well at least fisher doesnt flop on offense. but i would agree there needs to be a rule. ejection for a flop

You must be a big Shannon Brown fan..

[AussieFanKurt]

we all know that Horry was worst

[redzero]

we all know that Horry was worst

That flop on Boozer was hilarious. Horry fell over like a ton of bricks.

[dude1394]

Players flop because the refs reward them for it. You want to stop flopping, have the refs make calls where the offensive player aggressively bumps into the defender.

If they would not have allowed snack, barkley to dislodge defenders half of this wouldn't occur. If you hold your ground you NEVER get the call and the offensive guy just muscles you out of the way.

I'm all for flopping until the refs begin to call more offensive calls.

[duhoh]

well at least fisher doesnt flop on offense. but i would agree there needs to be a rule. ejection for a flop

+10000000000

I can't believe CP3 did that :bang

[Morg1411]

The only thing more annoying than flopping is people complaining about flopping.

So where does complaining about people who complain about flopping rank?

[cobbler]

As long as you're cool with him using his daughter's illness to cuckold an entire city.

It is well documented why Utah let him out of his contract and why he chose LA over NY of the 2 possible destinations for his daughters well being. If you had a daughter facing the same issues and had a tenth of the character that Fish has you would know basketball had NOTTHING to do with it.

That you even bring it up only exlemplifies what a scumbag you are an how butt hurt you get over anything Lakers. Your hatred and jealousy show no bounds.

[superbigtime]

Most guys flop occassionally (Paul, Ginobili, Varejao, etc) and some get away with it more than others.

And then there's a guy in his own special class of floppers, Derek Fisher.

Derek Fisher deserves a special dedicated thread because of the alarming frequency of his flops (every game practically), and the rate that he gets away with it (100% success rate). The officials literally fall hook, line, and sinker every time and I truly don't understand why. His flops are so over the top from the minimal contact he recieves... its downright baffling why these so called "veterans" of officiating have been falling for his shenanigans for the better part of a decade.

It truly either A) speaks of their incredible ineptitude, or B)speaks of their crookedness.

This guy has single handedly degraded the the game more than any other player to ever play IMO.

+1 Everything you say is so true. Chris Paul is No. 2, but waaay behind the bitch of the league Derek Fisher. Love what you said about the refs...C) Both A & B.

[Shastafarian]

It is well documented why Utah let him out of his contract and why he chose LA over NY of the 2 possible destinations for his daughters well being. If you had a daughter facing the same issues and had a tenth of the character that Fish has you would know basketball had NOTTHING to do with it. Basketball has everything to do with it considering he elected to keep playing. His decision to "come back" took a whole week. "Hmmm spend time with sick daughter or travel a bunch and play a game even though there's no way I need the money...I choose basketball!" Fathering 101 really.


That you even bring it up only exlemplifies what a scumbag you are an how butt hurt you get over anything Lakers. Your hatred and jealousy show no bounds.
That you really think he didn't use his daughter to get out of his contract just shows how much of a homer you really are.

[RedsLakers24]

Fisher pisses me off, he cant guard people and now he cant even make a shot

[cobbler]

Basketball has everything to do with it considering he elected to keep playing. His decision to "come back" took a whole week. "Hmmm spend time with sick daughter or travel a bunch and play a game even though there's no way I need the money...I choose basketball!" Fathering 101 really.


That you really think he didn't use his daughter to get out of his contract just shows how much of a homer you really are.

Do your research before you post. He never intended to give up basketball. Never said it. Show me where he did. He told the owner of the Jazz that he wanted to relocate to either New York or LA where the best treatment can be obtained for a rare LIFE THREATENING condition. The Lakers jumped on the opportunity and offerd him a contract at SUBSTANCIALLY less money than he was making in Utah.

Now think about this... cause I am an optimist and belive even an imbicile like you can understand this.

His wife and extended family are all from the LA area. NBA players are on the road a lot. This means that while the wife is attending to post surgery doctor visits etc... that her parents and extended family can help with the other child and household duties. She asked Derek to choose LA because she did not want to go to NY and be alone.

It's as simple as that. She gets the best care and the best surroundings. Nothing was planned. I happen to think Fish is a stand up guy and would belive him over a butt hurt idiot on the internet that brings up 3 year old crap that has nothing to do with the thread to begin with.

I think he needs to be replaced and that his best days ballin are behind him but that is a moot point. He flops no more or no less than the best floppers on every team. Until they change the rules, which I think they should, it will continue.

On another note, I would be willing to bet he spends more time with his daughter than your father ever spent with you. Fathering 101. As if you would know.

Get a life...

[Shastafarian]

July 3, 2007 Associated Press

SALT LAKE CITY -- The Utah Jazz agreed to release guard Derek Fisher from his contract Monday so he can concentrate on finding the best care for his 11-month-old daughter, who has cancer in her left eye.

Fisher said he wants to live in one of the six or seven cities being considered for Tatum's care.

He didn't rule out playing for another NBA team but emphasized that his daughter's health is his No. 1 priority.

"Life for me outweighs the game of basketball," Fisher told reporters after flying from New York to meet with Jazz owner Larry H. Miller and other team executives.

"When it comes to decisions related to them," he said of his family, "I do what's best."

The Jazz acquired Fisher a year ago in a trade with the Golden State Warriors. During eight seasons with the Los Angeles Lakers, he was part of three NBA championships -- experience that Utah's young team craved.

In May, his daughter was diagnosed with retinoblastoma, a cancerous tumor in her left eye. The danger is that it could spread to her brain or the rest of her body.

Fisher at times fought exhaustion trying to balance basketball and his daughter's welfare. He spent a day at a New York hospital in May, then flew to Utah for a Western Conference semifinal game against Golden State.

Only 350 cases of retinoblastoma are diagnosed each year in North America, according to Dr. A. Linn Murphree, director of the retinoblastoma program at Childrens Hospital Los Angeles, who is not involved in the Fisher case.

In most cases, patients lose the eye rather than undergo chemotherapy, but there are exceptions.

After the news conference, Fisher and wife Candace were flying to New York for another medical appointment Tuesday.

"Outwardly she's doing great. Her spirits are good," Fisher said of Tatum.

He said his desire to leave Utah does not mean that medical care here is weak. Rather, Fisher said he and his wife need a place that has the "right combination" of specialists.

He declined to identify the cities under consideration. Many NBA players work apart from their families, but it's not an option for him. He and Candace have four children.

"For me and my family, we just don't believe in it. ... I don't think I could be the player I could be if I had to carry that load," Fisher said.

Wiping away tears, Miller said Fisher "leaves a legacy" of leadership and toughness for Utah's young players.

"He's focused on the most important thing," the owner said of Fisher's request to leave the Jazz.

Fisher doesn't want to retire but acknowledged it's a possibility.

"I'll be 33 in August. I'm 6-1. I averaged 10 points this year," he said. "I don't know how many people feel strongly about what I do."

Fisher signed with the Lakers on July 11, 2007. Took him 8 days (probably less considering that's when he SIGNED the deal) to decide he wanted to keep playing/traveling/being away from his daughter. Like I said, Fathering 101.

[Shastafarian]

On another note, I would be willing to bet he spends more time with his daughter than your father ever spent with you. Fathering 101. As if you would know.

Get a life...

:lol Talk about being butthurt.

[Def Rowe]

The reason why Jazz fans are butthurt about Fisher is because he led their organazation the believe he was going to sign with an east coast team, where there are better medical facilities, yad yada. A week later he signed with the Lakers. Sly move on Fishers part.

Whatever, get over it. You guys have Derron Williams. Why would Utah fans really give a crap...

[cobbler]

Fisher signed with the Lakers on July 11, 2007. Took him 8 days (probably less considering that's when he SIGNED the deal) to decide he wanted to keep playing/traveling/being away from his daughter. Like I said, Fathering 101.

The Lakers made him an offer. LA was one of two cities with the proper care for his daughter. His wifes family lives in LA. He has a history with the team. If the Lakers hadn't made an offer and no NY team did do you know for a fact he wouldn't have retired? It's all conjecture on all of our parts as well as the UTAH paper you got your info from. I happen to believe Derek and his wife. You don't. So be it. That he signed within 8 days is meaningless.

Regardless, it's old news and there is no reason to bring it up. The thread was created talking about flopping... and you bring this old crap up again. For what purpose?

[AussieFanKurt]

That flop on Boozer was hilarious. Horry fell over like a ton of bricks.

haha i remember the commentators just laughing and van gundy having a bitch.

[Shastafarian]

The Lakers made him an offer. LA was one of two cities with the proper care for his daughter. So he could live in LA with his wife and daughter instead of traveling a good portion of the year with his basketball team.

His wifes family lives in LA. He has a history with the team. If the Lakers hadn't made an offer and no NY team did do you know for a fact he wouldn't have retired?Well obviously if no one wants him he would have no other option. Doesn't change the fact he chose the option that keeps him away from his daughter a bunch.

It's all conjecture on all of our parts as well as the UTAH paper you got your info from.The Associated Press is a UTAH paper?

I happen to believe Derek and his wife. You don't. So be it. That he signed within 8 days is meaningless. The time-frame is very meaningful. It shows he really didn't take a lot of time to decide he didn't care much about being with his daughter. From November to May/June he'll be away from her on average at least one day a week. That's not counting long road trips or any road trips at all. Instead he could have just given up playing a game or even taken longer than 8 days to decide.


Regardless, it's old news and there is no reason to bring it up. The thread was created talking about flopping... and you bring this old crap up again. For what purpose?
Getting under Laker fans skins. Unfortunately you're the only one who took the bait.

[ElNono]

The reason why Jazz fans are butthurt about Fisher is because he led their organazation the believe he was going to sign with an east coast team, where there are better medical facilities, yad yada. A week later he signed with the Lakers. Sly move on Fishers part.

Yeah, I remember this. Fish being Fish, I guess. I think he got tired of being on an irrelevant team. Can't blame him.

[TJastal]

Yeah, I remember this. Fish being Fish, I guess. I think he got tired of being on an irrelevant team. Can't blame him.

So that does not mean you make up some bullsh!t excuse about your daughter's illness so that you can get out of a contract. I wish the jazz owner Larry Miller had a freaking backbone and made him either play out his contract in Utah or sign & traded his ass to the clippers ala Stephen Jackson.

I'm sure Fisher would have come up with some excuse why he couldn't play for the clippers. Like the clipper practice facility wasn't close enough to the treatment facilities and the laker one was. :lol

[21_Blessings]

So that does not mean you make up some bullsh!t excuse about your daughter's illness so that you can get out of a contract.

Christ. Can you be anymore stupid?


I wish the jazz owner Larry Miller had a freaking backbone and made him either play out his contract in Utah or sign & traded his ass to the clippers ala Stephen Jackson.

Jazz saved lots of money in releasing Fisher. He was overpaid and pretty much sucked for them.

[ElNono]

Jazz saved lots of money in releasing Fisher. He was overpaid and pretty much sucked for them.

Please. It was a $20 million/3 year contract, which he signed when he was 30 years old... Hardly a bad contract. Plus he was on the last year of his contract, which means he was a very valuable expiring. Utah lost money by releasing him.

The Lakers signed him up for $13 million/3 years, at 33 years old.

Here, refresh your memory (http://www.pe.com/sports/basketball/breakout/stories/PE_Sports_Local_D_lakers_12.412003a.html)

[TJastal]

Please. It was a $20 million/3 year contract, which he signed when he was 30 years old... Hardly a bad contract. Plus he was on the last year of his contract, which means he was a very valuable expiring. Utah lost money by releasing him.

The Lakers signed him up for $13 million/3 years, at 33 years old.

Here, refresh your memory (http://www.pe.com/sports/basketball/breakout/stories/PE_Sports_Local_D_lakers_12.412003a.html)

Not only that, but he then helped the lakers oust the Jazz in the 2008 playoffs the very next year. I'm sure that went over well with the jazz organization.

That year's jazz was their best team in this decade and they put up a great fight; Fisher either being on the jazz or not being on the lakers, but probably the combination of both was the difference maker of that series.

So Derek Fisher's little tantrum demand to be let out of his contract that couldn't wait till the end of the season most likely cost the jazz a trip to the finals where they surely would have played the celtics harder than the pussy faggot ass Kobe and co.

[21_Blessings]

Please. It was a $20 million/3 year contract, which he signed when he was 30 years old... Hardly a bad contract.

Are you mentally retarded? 20 million/3 years is a horrendous contract for a Derek Fisher type player.


Plus he was on the last year of his contract, which means he was a very valuable expiring. Utah lost money by releasing him.

They didn't pay out the rest of his contract. Which isn't losing money. It's called saving.

[ElNono]

Are you mentally retarded? 20 million/3 years is a horrendous contract for a Derek Fisher type player.

The fuck you're talking about? The Lakers offered $15/3 years, and golden state ended up offering and getting him for $37 million/6 years.
The $20 million/3 years was the remaining of that, and about market value.


They didn't pay out the rest of his contract. Which isn't losing money. It's called saving.

He was an expiring contract. I don't think I need to say more than that.

[21_Blessings]

The fuck you're talking about? The Lakers offered $15/3 years, and golden state ended up offering and getting him for $37 million/6 years.

Yes and he was completely overpaid.


The $20 million/3 years was the remaining of that, and about market value.

No that wasn't market value for Derek Fisher. He was overpaid and the Jazz were more than willing to let him out of his contract to avoid paying his monstrous salary.


He was an expiring contract. I don't think I need to say more than that.

He expired the second they terminated Derek Fisher's contract. Thus saving millions of dollars.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

So that does not mean you make up some bullsh!t excuse about your daughter's illness so that you can get out of a contract. I wish the jazz owner Larry Miller had a freaking backbone and made him either play out his contract in Utah or sign & traded his ass to the clippers ala Stephen Jackson.

Yeah, that way any free agent who has a kid would never sign with Utah knowing that should their kid get ill he'd either have to separate from his kid or trust a doctor who's only medical advise is praying to Joseph Smith.

[ElNono]

No that wasn't market value for Derek Fisher. He was overpaid and the Jazz were more than willing to let him out of his contract to avoid paying his monstrous salary.


He expired the second they terminated Derek Fisher's contract. Thus saving millions of dollars.

This is an oxymoron. You're telling me that the Jazz didn't want him and it costs them nothing to release him (actually would save them money), yet Fish had to go talk to the Jazz owner personally to ask them to release him.

I know you're among the dumbest posters here, but you're outdoing yourself again here.

[lefty]

Nothing wrong with flopping; it's part of the game

If you can sell it to the refs, why not?

As long as they look "legit.