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tlongII
11-16-2009, 10:39 AM
Do they deserve a BCS game?

Anyone?

Anyone?

Bueller?

JGW?

Evil Angel
11-16-2009, 10:59 AM
NO, they do not.

stretch
11-16-2009, 11:18 AM
heck no

MajorMike
11-16-2009, 11:48 AM
No, they don't deserve one.

However, there seems to be a lot of teams in that boat of not wanting to claim one.

10 bids - 5 auto bids for confs; one for SEC runner-up; one for TCU/BSU.

That's 7. LSU is out (3rd SEC). If TCU goes Boise is out (for now).

That leaves, in order today:
#9 Pitt
#12 Okla St
#13 Iowa
#14 Penn St
#15 Va Tek (3-loss)
#16 Wisc
17-19 all P-10 3-loss teams (Stanf, SC, Ore St)

The rules state non-champ members can get bids if:
- Has 9 wins against I-A opponents, and is rated in the top 14 of the BCS standings, or
- Is a non-AQ conference champion and meets the qualification standard in #3, but was not the highest-rated team to do so.

If Pitt only loses to Cincy, they will get a slot. Even if Pitt beats Cincy but Cincy loses no more they will get a slot. That's 8/10.
If OSU wins out and UT wins B12, OSU will get Fiesta slot. That's 9/10.

In that case, it leaves I spot between 3 two-loss B10 teams, 3 three-loss P10 teams, Va Tek and Boise (who can still be picked as an at-large but isn't guaranteed) for the last bid. This team must be in the Top 14, as per the rules, and this means SC will have to jump 3 currently two-loss teams, Va Tek and Stanf (who beat them) to get the #14 spot. I don't see that happening.

If Pitt and OSU fall out of the mix, Boise will most likely be taken for the Fiesta and Iowa/Penn State will be selected. This still leaves SC with the same problem, only now Va Tek is the most attractive team, while Stanf is still ahead of SC and Miami is right behind.

Someone from outside could win the B12 (Neb?) or ACC (Clem?) game I I would argue that UT and Ga Tek would still get a BCS bid.

Still, it is completely pausible that Pitt loses to Cincy badly and drops out (maybe even loses twice - @ WVa), OSU loses @ uo, two of the B10 teams loses a game (and they all have tough ones - Wisc @ NW & Hawaii, Penn @ Mich St, etc), Stanf loses to Cal and/or ND, and Va Tek loses @ Virg.

If all those things happened, Boise would be an at large (#8) Iowa would be an at-large (#9) and SC could be selected at 10. That's lots of if's, tho, but I've seen sillier.

The selection order is:
#1 (Fla)
#2 (UT)
ACC BEasy (Ga Tek)
B10 (Ohio)
Fiesta (TCU)
P10 (Ore)
Sugar (Bama)
#1 Replacement Sugar (Cincy)

After that is where it gets muddy:
#2 Replacement Fiesta
Orange

Fiesta can pick between Boise, Pitt, OSU, Va Tek, Iowa, Penn State. Do they REALLY want to see TCU vs Boise, which was a 3rd rate bowl last year?

Next Orange can pick, and you would imagine they would pick from an east coast team like Pitt, Va Tek, Miami, maybe Penn St.

All things likely, not only would SC have to have at least 6 teams lose (one of which MUST be Stanf) but they would have to bet that the Orange would want to see Ga Tek vs SC, because I don't think the Fiesta will pick SC over any of the other eligibles this year. If they were a one-loss 2nd place team, heck ya they would; but they have gotten the 2 worst whoopings in SC history within a few weeks of each other and not to mention lost to UDub. I just don't see it this year.

TFloss32
11-16-2009, 11:54 AM
Negatory. The BCS has been choking back tears since Saturday, though.

IronMexican
11-16-2009, 12:41 PM
No way.



"but the computers love usc rofl!!!"


I already said it, mookie crew. You guys don't have to do it now. thank me later.

samikeyp
11-16-2009, 12:54 PM
No.

mookie2001
11-16-2009, 01:11 PM
hell no, my head imploadded when i heard some had them in last week with 2 losses


bullshit

theyre a pro team we know it
theyre the most talented yes
they dont rebuild fact
they reload true

we know this because we hear it all year

and thats how bad they suck

DMX7
11-16-2009, 02:43 PM
No... especially since mid-major programs are going to fill up a sport or two.

johngateswhiteley
11-16-2009, 05:08 PM
of course they do

johngateswhiteley
11-16-2009, 05:08 PM
of course they do


...just kidding. no.

Girasuck
11-16-2009, 05:11 PM
USC is headed to the Las Vegas Bowl to play the winner of the Utah/BYU game.

pkbpkb81
11-16-2009, 05:13 PM
No, they don't deserve one.

However, there seems to be a lot of teams in that boat of not wanting to claim one.

10 bids - 5 auto bids for confs; one for SEC runner-up; one for TCU/BSU.

That's 7. LSU is out (3rd SEC). If TCU goes Boise is out (for now).

That leaves, in order today:
#9 Pitt
#12 Okla St
#13 Iowa
#14 Penn St
#15 Va Tek (3-loss)
#16 Wisc
17-19 all P-10 3-loss teams (Stanf, SC, Ore St)

The rules state non-champ members can get bids if:
- Has 9 wins against I-A opponents, and is rated in the top 14 of the BCS standings, or
- Is a non-AQ conference champion and meets the qualification standard in #3, but was not the highest-rated team to do so.

If Pitt only loses to Cincy, they will get a slot. Even if Pitt beats Cincy but Cincy loses no more they will get a slot. That's 8/10.
If OSU wins out and UT wins B12, OSU will get Fiesta slot. That's 9/10.

In that case, it leaves I spot between 3 two-loss B10 teams, 3 three-loss P10 teams, Va Tek and Boise (who can still be picked as an at-large but isn't guaranteed) for the last bid. This team must be in the Top 14, as per the rules, and this means SC will have to jump 3 currently two-loss teams, Va Tek and Stanf (who beat them) to get the #14 spot. I don't see that happening.

If Pitt and OSU fall out of the mix, Boise will most likely be taken for the Fiesta and Iowa/Penn State will be selected. This still leaves SC with the same problem, only now Va Tek is the most attractive team, while Stanf is still ahead of SC and Miami is right behind.

Someone from outside could win the B12 (Neb?) or ACC (Clem?) game I I would argue that UT and Ga Tek would still get a BCS bid.

Still, it is completely pausible that Pitt loses to Cincy badly and drops out (maybe even loses twice - @ WVa), OSU loses @ uo, two of the B10 teams loses a game (and they all have tough ones - Wisc @ NW & Hawaii, Penn @ Mich St, etc), Stanf loses to Cal and/or ND, and Va Tek loses @ Virg.

If all those things happened, Boise would be an at large (#8) Iowa would be an at-large (#9) and SC could be selected at 10. That's lots of if's, tho, but I've seen sillier.

The selection order is:
#1 (Fla)
#2 (UT)
ACC BEasy (Ga Tek)
B10 (Ohio)
Fiesta (TCU)
P10 (Ore)
Sugar (Bama)
#1 Replacement Sugar (Cincy)

After that is where it gets muddy:
#2 Replacement Fiesta
Orange

Fiesta can pick between Boise, Pitt, OSU, Va Tek, Iowa, Penn State. Do they REALLY want to see TCU vs Boise, which was a 3rd rate bowl last year?

Next Orange can pick, and you would imagine they would pick from an east coast team like Pitt, Va Tek, Miami, maybe Penn St.

All things likely, not only would SC have to have at least 6 teams lose (one of which MUST be Stanf) but they would have to bet that the Orange would want to see Ga Tek vs SC, because I don't think the Fiesta will pick SC over any of the other eligibles this year. If they were a one-loss 2nd place team, heck ya they would; but they have gotten the 2 worst whoopings in SC history within a few weeks of each other and not to mention lost to UDub. I just don't see it this year.

I hate osu but nice run down

MajorMike
11-16-2009, 11:41 PM
I arm myself with facts.

Like Boise is 2nd rate; lol.