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tlongII
11-16-2009, 10:45 AM
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-elliott16-2009nov16,0,566736.column

Their second loss in a row makes Kobe Bryant's goal of 70 wins this season seem far-fetched. Better goals should be short term and revolve around consistency and focused defense.

This is when the Lakers should be cleaning up, not scraping their egos up off the floor.

During a stretch in which they will play 17 of their first 21 games at home, they should be resting Kobe Bryant in the fourth quarter because they have put the game out of reach, not because he aggravated a week-old groin strain during the first quarter and had no reason to risk making it worse.

The Lakers' 101-91 loss to Houston on Sunday in front of an unhappy crowd at Staples Center was their second in a row and third this season. That, in itself, is not a problem.

The problem is they followed a putrid, franchise-worst second half at Denver on Friday with a ragged first half Sunday -- and let that bleed into a rancid third quarter in which Aaron Brooks had 15 points and the Lakers as a team had 19. After scoring only 23 points in the second half at Denver on Friday, the Lakers were outscored, 49-37, in the second half Sunday.

It wasn't pretty.

"If you look at the games, it's clear these are not games we should be winning," Andrew Bynum said. "We're going out and playing subpar basketball for this team."

In a season that began with the goal of challenging the 72-10 standard set by the 1995-96 Chicago Bulls, the Lakers are looking at their transition defense and finding it wanting and shaking their heads at being outrebounded, 60-38, by a team that lacked Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady.

Asked whether he was surprised the Lakers have three losses in their first 10 games, Bryant kept his face impassive.

"I'm mortified," he said, his words dripping in sarcasm.

And the way they have lost these last two . . .

"It terrifies me," he said in the same tone.

"You know we're going to get better," said Bryant, who wouldn't blame the sore groin for his five-for-20 shooting. "We know what's at stake. We'll figure our way through this."

They are well behind the Bulls' pace in that 72-win season. That team was 10-1, lost its 11th game and then took off on a 13-game winning streak. The Bulls didn't lose for the third time until their 26th game. They followed that with an 18-game win streak and were 41-3 before losing two straight.

That's 31-1 over a 32-game stretch.

No one may ever match that 72-win season. It won't be these Lakers, not at this rate.

"You have two nights in a row like that . . . we play a lot of games, and those guys came out fighting," Ron Artest said of Houston. "We've got 82 games to get ready for the playoffs."

The 70-plus win goal came from Bryant and has taken root in the Lakers' minds, a goal to keep them interested while they slog through the long season.

"We think about it maybe individually, maybe not collectively," Lamar Odom said. "We got pretty beat up early in the year and to accomplish things like that sometimes you have to have an injury-free year. Even some guys that are playing have been beat up early this year.

"We still think we can do it but I think it's individual players. Collectively we try to take it game by game."

The current Lakers haven't been as lucky in avoiding injuries as they were last season. The only regular to miss significant time last season was Andrew Bynum, who lost 32 games to a knee injury.

Trevor Ariza, who signed with Houston as a free agent last summer and was warmly welcomed back Sunday, played all 82 games for the Lakers last season. So did Bryant and Derek Fisher. Odom played 78 and Pau Gasol played 81.

Gasol missed his 10th game Sunday, though he might return later this week. Bynum has missed two games.

"Everybody's been beat up," Odom said.

Seventy seems an impossible dream, though Odom insisted the Lakers are capable of sustaining the excellence they'd need to get there.

"We think we can maintain that type of level. We're a mentally tough team," he said. "And that's why we've had success."

Focusing in the second half was another reason they have had success. That was glaringly missing in their last two games.

"I think that we have to look at what we're doing," Coach Phil Jackson said, adding they must work on getting more second-chance shots and examine where they are getting their shots.

Consistency and defensive diligence should be high on their list -- ahead of pursuing a 70-win season. Only if they do the first will the second have even a remote chance of happening.

Findog
11-16-2009, 11:02 AM
70-win ecstasy:

http://atthebox.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/lamar-odom.jpg

21_Blessings
11-16-2009, 11:14 AM
0 championship ecstasy:

http://www.businesspundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/dirk2.jpg

TJastal
11-16-2009, 11:20 AM
Well the lakers' recent woes certainly haven't been from lack of help from the officials.

As disgusting as it was watching Eric Lewis and Tom Washington continously blow obvious calls in favor of the lakers all night long, it was refreshing to see the rockets outhustle the lakers and didn't let the obvious bias disrupt their focus at any point. They are playing like they have nothing to lose, (with McGreedy and Yao out).

The_Game
11-16-2009, 11:35 AM
when it was said Pau Gasol was hurt the goal of 70 wins was never a realistic option

RedsLakers24
11-16-2009, 11:42 AM
:depressed Bad day for me yesterday, Pats lost so i lost alot of money, and the Lakers Lost

hater
11-16-2009, 11:48 AM
:lmao love it

JamStone
11-16-2009, 11:49 AM
Not that they were ever going to win 70 anyway, but why talk shit now like 3 losses now makes it impossible? Let's do some math, students. Once they get Pau back, they could make a run. Improbable? Yea. But 3 losses and now people start the shit talk?

21_Blessings
11-16-2009, 11:51 AM
:lmao love it

Yeah San Antonio playing .500 ball is pretty funny. :lol

tlongII
11-16-2009, 12:01 PM
There are 2 teams in the West with better records than the Lakers. Phoenix and somebody else. Who is that? Oh yea...

blink
11-16-2009, 12:08 PM
pull the cock out your mouth tlong, you sound like a fgt. i can see why you hate the lakers though :wakeup

Findog
11-16-2009, 12:08 PM
Sexual Misconduct Ecstasy:

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/images/magicjohnsonhiv1991.JPG

U mad?

Mel_13
11-16-2009, 12:10 PM
There are 2 teams in the West with better records than the Lakers. Phoenix and somebody else. Who is that? Oh yea...

11-game mark Division Champion and Conference 2nd seed!!!!

Will they raise a banner or hold a parade to commemorate this momentous accomplishment ?

z0sa
11-16-2009, 12:21 PM
Kobe can't do shit without a big man, hence why he shouldn't ever be compared to Jordan

blink
11-16-2009, 12:25 PM
jordan wouldnt have done shit without scottie or rodman. your point is mute

Technique
11-16-2009, 01:01 PM
jordan wouldnt have done shit without scottie or rodman. your point is mute

lolwhat

tlongII
11-16-2009, 01:03 PM
11-game mark Division Champion and Conference 2nd seed!!!!

Will they raise a banner or hold a parade to commemorate this momentous accomplishment ?

That sounds like a good idea! :tu

dirk4mvp
11-16-2009, 01:03 PM
Is there a reason 21_Palins gets his vagoo sore in every Laker thread?

sabar
11-16-2009, 01:11 PM
You're doomed to failure if you make dumb predictions like that. How many guys that promised to drop xx points on some hated team actually did it? Karma.

hater
11-16-2009, 01:14 PM
Yeah San Antonio playing .500 ball is pretty funny. :lol

I don't remember our superstar setting a 70 win season goal :downspin:

Spur-Addict
11-16-2009, 01:14 PM
"Sexual Misconduct Ecstasy"

:lol

da_suns_fan
11-16-2009, 01:17 PM
jordan wouldnt have done shit without scottie or rodman. your point is mute

:lol

Also, I think Jordan won three championships without Rodman.

Findog
11-16-2009, 01:29 PM
Is there a reason 21_Palins gets his vagoo sore in every Laker thread?

Well, "men" with small peen have to live vicariously through their favorite basketball team. If you insult the Lakers, you're basically calling him out on his Japanese-length penis.

Viva Las Espuelas
11-16-2009, 01:33 PM
0 championship ecstasy:

http://www.businesspundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/dirk2.jpg

that is such a great pic. So much emotion. So much defeat. I love it.


Queue the Manu foul

Findog
11-16-2009, 01:35 PM
that is such a great pic. So much emotion. So much defeat. I love it.


Queue the Manu foul

I didn't know you were a Warriors fan.

BLACKMAMBA24
11-16-2009, 01:54 PM
1/8/2010

blink
11-16-2009, 01:58 PM
:lol

Also, I think Jordan won three championships without Rodman.

i think your puny little brain cant comprehend that i meant. championships 1-3 with pippen and 4-6 with pippen and rodman. there, i spelled it out for you, understand now?

da_suns_fan
11-16-2009, 02:03 PM
i think your puny little brain cant comprehend that i meant. championships 1-3 with pippen and 4-6 with pippen and rodman. there, i spelled it out for you, understand now?

I think theres an unofficial rule that you cant call someone else's brain "puny" after you call someone's point "mute".

blink
11-16-2009, 06:03 PM
I think theres an unofficial rule that you cant call someone else's brain "puny" after you call someone's point "mute".

dictionary.com

please stop responding to my posts, you sound like an idiot.

JamStone
11-16-2009, 11:23 PM
There are 2 teams in the West with better records than the Lakers. Phoenix and somebody else. Who is that? Oh yea...

Dallas Mavericks.

Blazers are currently the 5th seed in the West.

Hey, let's keep playing this game after each game of the regular season!

cobbler
11-16-2009, 11:29 PM
There are 2 teams in the West with better records than the Lakers. Phoenix and somebody else. Who is that? Oh yea...

Actually its 3... and the Paraders aren't one of them.

:lol

tlongII
11-16-2009, 11:49 PM
Dallas Mavericks.

Blazers are currently the 5th seed in the West.

Hey, let's keep playing this game after each game of the regular season!

That's only because we got fucking hosed.

cobbler
11-17-2009, 12:08 AM
That's only because we got fucking hosed.

I never thought I would see the day where the Suns fans would be surpassed by another in the EXCUSES catagory.

I was wrong.

And how come you keep ignoring my bet proposed to you. If you truly really believe your BS then why are you ducking he bet?

ALL TALK NO WALK!

tlongII
11-17-2009, 12:27 AM
I never thought I would see the day where the Suns fans would be surpassed by another in the EXCUSES catagory.

I was wrong.

And how come you keep ignoring my bet proposed to you. If you truly really believe your BS then why are you ducking he bet?

ALL TALK NO WALK!

Why don't we make TWO bets?

#1) $500 on who goes further in the playoffs. Lakers or Blazers.

#2) $500 that the Lakers do NOT win the championship.


Deal?

djohn2oo8
11-17-2009, 12:40 AM
Why don't we make TWO bets?

#1) $500 on who goes further in the playoffs. Lakers or Blazers.

#2) $500 that the Lakers do NOT win the championship.


Deal?

$1000 dollars out of your pocket easily

NuGGeTs-FaN
11-17-2009, 12:46 AM
Why don't we make TWO bets?

#1) $500 on who goes further in the playoffs. Lakers or Blazers.

#2) $500 that the Lakers do NOT win the championship.


Deal?


That's the way! Make a Faker fan put their money where their mouth is! Although i am not sure many of their fans get that much pocket money in a year. :hat

FkLA
11-17-2009, 01:19 AM
when it was said Pau Gasol was hurt the goal of 70 wins was never a realistic option

Not like it wouldve actually made a difference.

People need to stop believing everything the media feeds them. Everytime LA has a stacked starting line-up the media makes ridiculous claims like these and everytime casual and ignorant NBA fans lbuy into this BS. Same shit happened when they had the 'Fab Four' in 2004 and those 4 future HOFs didnt come close to 72 and ended up getting waxed by a real TEAM with no superstar in the Finals. The Lakers sell, so alot of the media is pro-LA but anyone that actually believed some of these 72-win suggestions are retards.

RsxPiimp
11-17-2009, 01:34 AM
Not that they were ever going to win 70 anyway, but why talk shit now like 3 losses now makes it impossible? Let's do some math, students. Once they get Pau back, they could make a run. Improbable? Yea. But 3 losses and now people start the shit talk?

its not probable and its not possible. lakers aint touchin 70 wins.