PDA

View Full Version : Best 5-man unit so far


Findog
11-16-2009, 01:34 PM
http://www.nba.com/statistics/plusminus/plusminus_sort.jsp?pcomb=5&season=22009&split=9&team=

Take a guess without looking at the link.
Sportstudi
11-16-2009, 01:45 PM
Well, you can also take the individual stats: http://www.nba.com/statistics/plusminus/plusminus_sort.jsp?pcomb=1&season=22009&split=9&team=
Findog
11-16-2009, 01:48 PM
Yes, we can.
Pistons < Spurs
11-16-2009, 01:49 PM
I'm impressed and shocked that the Pistons have a 5some in the top 10 considering Tay and Rip have been out.
Findog
11-16-2009, 01:51 PM
I'm impressed and shocked that the Pistons have a 5some in the top 10 considering Tay and Rip have been out.

That's 4 guys that opposing defenses have to worry about. Most NBA teams are lucky to roll out 3 of those guys. The Pistons have a chance to be really salty this year once those guys get healthy.
Xylus
11-16-2009, 02:04 PM
The Suns' starting 5 is near the bottom of the list, despite the fact that they have the best record in the league. Just goes to show that our bench is getting the job done.
Dex
11-16-2009, 02:07 PM
This is assuredly a harbinger of doom.
xtremesteven33
11-16-2009, 02:12 PM
stats suck :td
Findog
11-16-2009, 02:17 PM
stats suck :td

Is that because the proliferation of stats means it is now much easier to show that certain opinions are bullshit and the poster knows nothing about basketball?

Adjusted plus/minus is a flawed metric in my opinion, but this one is very useful.
JamStone
11-16-2009, 03:07 PM
Well, you can also take the individual stats: http://www.nba.com/statistics/plusminus/plusminus_sort.jsp?pcomb=1&season=22009&split=9&team=


Lol Mario Chalmers is the best point guard in the league!
badfish22
11-16-2009, 03:26 PM
To bad we play this smug piece of shit to finish games




http://www.northeastern.edu/magazine/winter06/images/sports1.jpg
mavs>spurs2
11-16-2009, 03:45 PM
It wasn't hard to guess that much. Too bad we don't always play that lineup to close games
Donkeybong
11-16-2009, 03:50 PM
you would think a group of lakers would be up there considering our bench sucks monkey nuts
Tmac&Luther
11-16-2009, 04:12 PM
Again.....further proof that the +/- stat is absolutely worthless.
Brazil
11-16-2009, 04:13 PM
To bad we play this smug piece of shit to finish games




http://www.northeastern.edu/magazine/winter06/images/sports1.jpg

Don't worry Beaubois is going to eat his PT
Shank
11-16-2009, 04:14 PM
To bad we play this smug piece of shit to finish games




http://www.northeastern.edu/magazine/winter06/images/sports1.jpg

Are those...am I seeing...are...

Jorts?
Findog
11-16-2009, 04:15 PM
Again.....further proof that the +/- stat is absolutely worthless.

Adjusted +/- for individuals is pretty useless, but KG/Perkins/Rondo/Allen/Pierce is one of the best 5-man units. Is that SO surprising?
Findog
11-16-2009, 04:15 PM
Are those...am I seeing...are...

Jorts?

Just call him the Puerto Rican Stallion.
badfish22
11-16-2009, 04:16 PM
Again.....further proof that the +/- stat is absolutely worthless.

Ya, thats it. Just call it worthless w/o having anything to back it up with. Dont mind that this is the lineup we used to kick the Lakers ass. We're also second in the conference in point differential.
IronMexican
11-16-2009, 04:16 PM
Are those...am I seeing...are...

Jorts?

You do know Jorts have been in style since Autumn of 2007. This man brought it back:


http://thejortreport.com/blog/images/O63466.jpg
Findog
11-16-2009, 04:16 PM
Ya, thats it. Just call it worthless w/o having anything to back it up with. Dont mind that this is the lineup we used to kick the Lakers ass. We're also second in the conference in point differential.

"I don't like stats because they contradict my dumbass opinions."
2slowman
11-16-2009, 05:15 PM
"I don't like stats because they contradict my dumbass opinions."

Five of the top six best two man combinations for the Spurs involve Matt Bonner. My dumbass opinion is that Matt Bonner is not the best player on the Spurs, but I guess if the statistics say so...

http://www.nba.com/statistics/plusminus/plusminus_sort.jsp?pcomb=2&season=22009&split=9&team=Spurs
Findog
11-16-2009, 05:34 PM
Five of the top six best two man combinations for the Spurs involve Matt Bonner. My dumbass opinion is that Matt Bonner is not the best player on the Spurs, but I guess if the statistics say so...

http://www.nba.com/statistics/plusminus/plusminus_sort.jsp?pcomb=2&season=22009&split=9&team=Spurs

Matt Bonner starts alongside Tony Parker, Richard Jefferson and Tim Duncan, no? While he's a scrub/role player, he can hit threes and spread the floor. On a team like the Bucks or Nets, who cares? Matt Bonner isn't helping your team. On a team like the Spurs, he can contribute.

Adjusted +/- for individuals says the Zombie Sonics are much worse off with Kevin Durant on the floor. That I don't put too much stock in. 5-man units tell us which combinations work the best. Usually these things are weighted for a minimum of minutes played. It absolutely does not surprise me that Bonner is part of 5-man units that perform well for the Spurs.
badfish22
11-16-2009, 05:34 PM
Five of the top six best two man combinations for the Spurs involve Matt Bonner. My dumbass opinion is that Matt Bonner is not the best player on the Spurs, but I guess if the statistics say so...

http://www.nba.com/statistics/plusminus/plusminus_sort.jsp?pcomb=2&season=22009&split=9&team=Spurs

Well theres your problem
mogrovejo
11-16-2009, 06:05 PM
Non adjusted +/- stats are meaningless at best and misleading at worse.

Adjusted +/- stats can be okay if your sample is big enough - like 3 seasons or so.
Danny.Zhu
11-16-2009, 08:56 PM
Weird.