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spursncowboys
11-17-2009, 09:48 AM
Franken's Craven 'Anti-Rape' Amendment -- By: Michael M. Rosen

When it comes to Sen. Al Franken, sometimes it’s hard to tell if the joke’s on him or on all of us.

In early October, Franken — a former Saturday Night Live comic and now the junior senator from Minnesota — presented legislation designed to paint Republicans into an uncomfortable corner, to let him claim the moral high ground of standing up for women’s rights, and to enrich some of his biggest campaign donors. Specifically, Franken introduced an amendment to the defense appropriations bill that would bar the Pentagon from doing business with any contractor or subcontractor that requires its employees to submit to arbitration (and thus avoid court proceedings) over any civil-rights claims or actions related to sexual assault.

Franken and the Left styled the measure as “anti-rape” legislation, when in fact it’s really a thinly veiled gift to trial lawyers, to whom the Democratic party is largely in thrall. Federal law already precludes arbitration for such serious crimes, and the amendment would sweep in all manner of ordinary employment disputes.

That’s why 30 Republican senators voted against it. For their efforts, they were lambasted in the liberal blogosphere as “pro-rape” politicians harboring a deep-seated hatred for women. A scurrilous website emerged called RepublicansForRape.org, while Huffington Post bloggers and Jon Stewart teed off on the GOP’s supposed patriarchy.

No matter that the Defense Department itself opposed the amendment, or that the Obama White House would go only so far as to support its “intent,” but not its content. Republicans would be made to suffer for Franken’s clever sleight-of-hand.

So let’s look in detail at the measure’s flaws. Here’s the relevant language:
None of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used for any existing or new Federal contract if the contractor or a subcontractor at any tier requires that an employee or independent contractor, as a condition of employment, sign a contract that mandates that the employee or independent contractor performing work under the contract or subcontract resolve through arbitration any claim under title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 or any tort related to or arising out of sexual assault or harassment, including assault and battery, intentional infliction of emotional distress, false imprisonment, or negligent hiring, supervision, or retention. (Emphases added.)
The amendment requires two categories of claims to be litigated in courts: anything arising under Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act (underlined), and any tort “related to or arising out of” sexual assault or harassment (italicized) — a list that includes a wide variety of actions.

Let’s start with the italicized language, which was explicitly designed by Franken to reflect the horrifying situation of Jamie Leigh Jones, an employee of a Halliburton subsidiary who was (allegedly) gang-raped and imprisoned by her coworkers in Iraq. When she sued her employer in federal court, Halliburton sought to dismiss the case because of an arbitration clause in her employment agreement.




But in a detailed opinion, the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals in September rejected the contractor’s argument, finding that criminal actions like sexual assault — and other torts arising out of such actions, like battery, false imprisonment, and intentional infliction of emotional distress — could not be arbitrated, as they were in no way related to her employment, and therefore fall outside the scope of the arbitration clause. In other words, the very relief that Franken’s amendment seeks to provide already exists under federal law: Employees cannot be required to arbitrate civil actions stemming from criminal conduct. (While the Fifth Circuit is only one court among many, it’s considered the most conservative of the courts of appeals.)

The amendment’s language is also unclear with respect to the final three items, namely negligent hiring, supervision, or retention. Must these torts arise out of an act of sexual assault or sexual harassment to warrant exclusion from arbitration? Or are they necessarily “related to” them? In other words, the scope of the amendment appears to cover negligent hiring, supervision, or retention even if they do not “arise out of” an act like rape.

This is connected to the second major problem with the amendment: the underlined language regarding civil-rights violations. Title VII includes a huge range of activities within its ambit, everything from discriminatory hiring practices, to improper training programs, to inappropriate use of test scores, to punishing employees for testimony in enforcement proceedings. All of these practices are problematic, but they’re quite far afield from sexual assault, and there doesn’t appear to be any compelling need to litigate them instead of arbitrating them.

Requiring that courts hear these various employment torts will prove quite costly, for two reasons. First, litigation in the courtroom — think judges, juries, and lengthy proceedings — is vastly more expensive than arbitration, which was designed precisely to conserve resources. Second, juries tend to be more sympathetic than arbitrators to employees — even those with arguably frivolous claims — and are therefore more likely to award large sums in damages.

What’s wrong with sticking defense contractors with a higher cost of doing business? Lots. Even the Left, which has no love lost for Halliburton and the like, can appreciate that higher costs for the contractors will simply get passed along to the Pentagon; if labor costs increase across the board for all contractors, bids will be higher and taxpayers will shell out more for the same goods and services. Plus, under the amendment, some poor shlub (or team of shlubs) in the Pentagon’s general counsel’s office will have to parse the employment contracts of each of its contractors and subcontractors at any tier to determine compliance with Franken’s wishes. For these reasons, Defense and the Obama administration haven’t supported the measure.

But this is the beauty of Franken’s legislation: By lumping these relatively minor (although costly) torts with the horrifying and attention-grabbing crime of rape, it becomes impossible — in the eyes of liberals — to oppose the legislation without also promoting sexual assault. Democratic candidates have wasted no time trying to capitalize on Republican opposition. Rep. Charlie Melancon (D., La.), who’s chasing Sen. David Vitter’s (R.) seat, slammed Vitter in a campaign mailer for “allow[ing] taxpayer-funded companies to sweep rape charges under the rug.” And at a town-hall meeting in Baton Rouge hosted by Vitter in late October, a woman identifying herself as a rape victim challenged the position of the senator, who took refuge in the Pentagon’s and White House’s opposition to it.




Yet Franken’s amendment does something more than make Republicans whipping boys for liberals: It moves the employer-employee relationship one step closer to a key goal of the plaintiffs’ bar, namely, the abolition of arbitration clauses. For all the reasons explained above — higher legal costs, bigger jury paydays — trial attorneys have long loathed the power of employers to bypass court battles via arbitration.

And it’s not surprising that Franken and his brethren are doing their bidding. Indeed, Franken between 2005 and 2009 raked in over $1.2 million in campaign contributions from the legal profession, more than from any other industry group. According to Paul Mouton, a political consultant who specializes in tracking contributions, Franken’s legal take exceeds $1.6 million. Likewise, during the same time period, Sen. Mary Landrieu (D., La.), who co-sponsored the amendment with Franken, raised more than $1.2 million from lawyers — in her case, four times more money than she raised from any other industry.

But rather than entertaining an honest debate about killing arbitration clauses, Franken and company are back-dooring the holy grail of the plaintiffs’ bar. Pentagon officials called them out, writing in a letter that “it may be more effective to seek a statutory prohibition of all such arrangements in any business transaction entered into within the jurisdiction of the United States, if these arrangements are deemed to pose an unacceptable method of recourse.” Still, Senate Democrats appear unwilling to confront the issue head-on.

The good news, according to the scuttlebutt around Capitol Hill, is that the White House will ask the House and Senate conferees to remove or weaken the Franken amendment during conference. This would be a fitting — and embarrassing — result for this ill-conceived measure. Is it too much to hope that Franken and his ilk will learn something from this process, about the importance of arguing the merits of legislation rather than corroding democracy by demonizing adversaries through linking them to horrific crimes?

-- Michael M. Rosen is an attorney and Republican activist in San Diego.

Winehole23
11-17-2009, 09:53 AM
Politics? On Capitol Hill? For shame!

George Gervin's Afro
11-17-2009, 10:23 AM
Wait a minute? A political party crafts legislation to make the other side look bad? I'm appalled!



Signed,

Tom 'The Hammer' DeLay

boutons_deux
11-17-2009, 10:52 AM
"arbitration clauses"

aka, screw the employee in a kangaroo court

doobs
11-17-2009, 10:57 AM
"arbitration clauses"

aka, screw the employee in a kangaroo court

Does the employee have a gun to his head when he signs the employment contract?

ElNono
11-17-2009, 11:02 AM
Does the employee have a gun to his head when he signs the employment contract?

If pretty much any standard employment contract includes an arbitration clause, do the prospective employees really have an option?

It's easy to say, well, just don't work. But that's being unrealistic.

FromWayDowntown
11-17-2009, 11:08 AM
So the 5th Circuit appears to be unwilling to make employees arbitrate tort claims against an employer -- the scope of the arbitration provision might extend only to contractual and quasi-contractual sorts of claims (terms of employment and such) and not to tortious conduct that the employer has a duty to prevent.

FromWayDowntown
11-17-2009, 11:10 AM
I just wonder if there would be a story here if the bill had been proposed by a senator named Frank Allen, rather than Al Franken.

doobs
11-17-2009, 11:11 AM
I just wonder if there would be a story here if the bill had been proposed by a senator named Frank Allen, rather than Al Franken.

I think so. Senators opposed to the amendment have been unfairly accused of being pro-rape. That's a big deal.

boutons_deux
11-17-2009, 11:13 AM
does the employee accept to be gang raped or other crimes when signing employment contract?

boutons_deux
11-17-2009, 11:14 AM
"unfairly accused of being pro-rape"

exactly like being accused of treason for opposing a Repug's bogus Iraq war-for-oil?

FromWayDowntown
11-17-2009, 11:17 AM
I think so. Senators opposed to the amendment have been unfairly accused of being pro-rape. That's a big deal.

That's a valid point.

boutons_deux
11-17-2009, 11:21 AM
The old southern/western white male good ol' boy Senators who voted against the Franken amendment are hiding behind a legality, preferring the corporation to the human rights (protection from crime) of the individual.

Wild Cobra
11-17-2009, 11:22 AM
If pretty much any standard employment contract includes an arbitration clause, do the prospective employees really have an option?

It's easy to say, well, just don't work. But that's being unrealistic.
I have never seen an unreasonable arbitration contract. Have you?

Employers must protect themselves in this age of trial lawyers, and yes, if you don't like the contract. Go elsewhere.

Wild Cobra
11-17-2009, 11:23 AM
The old southern/western white male good ol' boy Senators who voted against the Franken amendment are hiding behind a legality, preferring the corporation to the human rights (protection from crime) of the individual.
I see you fail to understand the ramifications.

FromWayDowntown
11-17-2009, 11:40 AM
I have never seen an unreasonable arbitration contract. Have you?

Employers must protect themselves in this age of trial lawyers, and yes, if you don't like the contract. Go elsewhere.

Courts tend to enforce the large majority of arbitration clauses. But they don't do it in every circumstance because they do occasionally conclude that the arbitration provision is unenforceable for some reason. In some instances, the basis for not enforcing the term is that to do so would be contrary to established public policies -- i.e., that enforcing the provision would be unreasonable. But those circumstances are rare.

EVAY
11-17-2009, 11:50 AM
The issues have been overdrawn, on both sides.

I note, however, that the two Texas Senators, both Republicans, split on the vote, with Hutchison voting with every other female member of the Senate for the legislation, and Cornyn voting against it.

Some people will claim this is Democrats bowing to trial lawyers' lobbyists.

Some people will claim that this is Republicans bowing to big business (i.e. Halliburton) lobbyists.

At least one labor lawyer I know said that the arbitration clause should never be used for the purpose that Halliburton used it, because civil or business contracts cannot override criminal law. Since Halliburton insists that the clause overrides the employees ' complaint of criminal activity, that is where the supposed need for clarifying language comes up in a new law.

It did not have to come to this, but since it has, I would assume that it will end up going to the Supreme Court.

I think it is interesting that every female member of the Senate voted in favor of the legislation, regardless of their political affiliation. That suggests to me that something is rotten in the Halliburton handling. Whether or not this is the legislation that should properly address it is another, albeit related issue.

Wild Cobra
11-17-2009, 11:52 AM
Franken's Craven 'Anti-Rape' Amendment -- By: Michael M. Rosen
If you all recall, I mentioned several things earlier that this article points out.


Franken and the Left styled the measure as “anti-rape” legislation, when in fact it’s really a thinly veiled gift to trial lawyers, to whom the Democratic party is largely in thrall. Federal law already precludes arbitration for such serious crimes, and the amendment would sweep in all manner of ordinary employment disputes.

In post #17 of the original thread on this matter (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136548), after I read the legislation, I said this:



It almost completely throws out arbitration. This wasn't targeting just bad crimes, but is a huge gift to trial lawyers. This can be so thoroughly abused by people and lawyers wanting to get rich, it's ridiculous.


Think about this too:

Yet Franken’s amendment does something more than make Republicans whipping boys for liberals: It moves the employer-employee relationship one step closer to a key goal of the plaintiffs’ bar, namely, the abolition of arbitration clauses. For all the reasons explained above — higher legal costs, bigger jury paydays — trial attorneys have long loathed the power of employers to bypass court battles via arbitration.

And it’s not surprising that Franken and his brethren are doing their bidding. Indeed, Franken between 2005 and 2009 raked in over $1.2 million in campaign contributions from the legal profession, more than from any other industry group. According to Paul Mouton, a political consultant who specializes in tracking contributions, Franken’s legal take exceeds $1.6 million. Likewise, during the same time period, Sen. Mary Landrieu (D., La.), who co-sponsored the amendment with Franken, raised more than $1.2 million from lawyers — in her case, four times more money than she raised from any other industry.


The good news, according to the scuttlebutt around Capitol Hill, is that the White House will ask the House and Senate conferees to remove or weaken the Franken amendment during conference. This would be a fitting — and embarrassing — result for this ill-conceived measure. Is it too much to hope that Franken and his ilk will learn something from this process, about the importance of arguing the merits of legislation rather than corroding democracy by demonizing adversaries through linking them to horrific crimes?

coyotes_geek
11-17-2009, 11:54 AM
Some people will claim this is Democrats bowing to trial lawyers' lobbyists.

And they would be right.


Some people will claim that this is Republicans bowing to big business (i.e. Halliburton) lobbyists.

And they would be right.



I think it is interesting that every female member of the Senate voted in favor of the legislation, regardless of their political affiliation. That suggests to me that something is rotten in the Halliburton handling. Whether or not this is the legislation that should properly address it is another, albeit related issue.

All it should suggest is that female senators know they can't afford to risk alienating female voters.

Wild Cobra
11-17-2009, 11:57 AM
Some people will claim this is Democrats bowing to trial lawyers' lobbyists.

Some people will claim that this is Republicans bowing to big business (i.e. Halliburton) lobbyists.

It's bad law. Period.


I think it is interesting that every female member of the Senate voted in favor of the legislation, regardless of their political affiliation. That suggests to me that something is rotten in the Halliburton handling. Whether or not this is the legislation that should properly address it is another, albeit related issue.

It suggests to me that they get so overwhelmed with pushing legislation too fast, they don't read all of it.

The intent of the bill sounds good. It simply isn't.

EVAY
11-17-2009, 12:02 PM
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All it should suggest is that female senators know they can't afford to risk alienating female voters.[/QUOTE]

Your comment seems to attribute very little critical thought to females, whether they are senators or not. The implication is that MALE senators CAN afford to alienate female voters, or that female senators assume that they are getting female votes solely on the basis of gender. Neither implication is reasonable, I think.

spursncowboys
11-17-2009, 12:09 PM
Your comment seems to attribute very little critical thought to females, whether they are senators or not. The implication is that MALE senators CAN afford to alienate female voters, or that female senators assume that they are getting female votes solely on the basis of gender. Neither implication is reasonable, I think.
KBH is running for Gov. It would be easier for her to not pick this as a battle. In fact, with the populist winds right now all the Sen that voted against this have nothing to gain and all to lose. These are the same guys who voted an amount of aid for Katrina based on Reed and McConnell throwing out numbers to one up each other. These are the same guys who needed a Trillion without reading and without a plan.

FromWayDowntown
11-17-2009, 12:21 PM
Additionally, the notion that the bill serves as a gift to trial lawyers is grounded only partially in fact.

Trial lawyers still represent those who are forced into arbitration and the trial lawyers who participate in the arbitration process still get something for the effort. Defense lawyers representing the corporation tend to do exceedingly well, being paid by the hour for the long and tedious work involved in representing a corporation in such a proceeding. Plaintiffs' lawyers representing the injured party also participate in the arbitration and are paid on a contingency basis for their efforts, too.

The people who get hurt in the process are those who are actually injured and are deprived of a jury trial, in favor of a forum that substantially favors the employer.

coyotes_geek
11-17-2009, 12:48 PM
Your comment seems to attribute very little critical thought to females, whether they are senators or not. The implication is that MALE senators CAN afford to alienate female voters, or that female senators assume that they are getting female votes solely on the basis of gender. Neither implication is reasonable, I think.

The voting demographics say otherwise. Go look at the polling data amongst women for KBH versus Perry and the data for Hillary versus Obama. Gender matters.

RandomGuy
11-17-2009, 01:13 PM
Because as we all know forcing companies that want to do business with the goverment to accept culpability for gang rapes on the part of their employees represents a massive run up in the overall cost of business for defense contractors. I mean there are so many gang-rapes going on in defense contracting companies that it hardly even makes the news anymore.

This must be something that will cost trillions to the taxpayers, and force tens of millions to go unemployed.

Right?

EVAY
11-17-2009, 02:29 PM
The voting demographics say otherwise. Go look at the polling data amongst women for KBH versus Perry and the data for Hillary versus Obama. Gender matters.

Obama defeated Hillary, even among women. I don't know the data regarding KBH and Perry. But there are lots of reasons for women (and men)to prefer ANYONE over Perry.

I agree with you that gender matters. But having said that, it is a long way to go to say that it is determinative. Perry was touting all of his female support in his last run, and attributed much of the said support to his good looks.

My implication in the last post was that to get such uniform support from every female senator my reflect an issue of far more importance to women than many male republicans can understand. And that can hurt them. Women don't have to believe that they 'support rape' in order to believe that they don't care about it enough to overcome their big-business bias.

spurster
11-17-2009, 02:42 PM
Why does the GOP want employers to have the right to sexually harass (or worse) their employees? Does anybody really believe employer-established arbitration is neutral?

ChumpDumper
11-17-2009, 02:50 PM
Thank god they passed the anti-imaginary sex slave legislation.

That is so much more dangerous than real rape.

Wild Cobra
11-17-2009, 06:02 PM
I see this has developed into another thread where libtards use no reasoning.

Bye.