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RandomGuy
11-17-2009, 01:44 PM
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Nov 12th 2009 | KAMPALA
From The Economist print edition

A new law against homosexuality in Uganda could set a nasty trend

Reuters

Hurrah for homophobia! VISITORS to Uganda have rarely been starved of sex if they have wanted it. But there are limitations. The country’s mix of vigorous heterosexuality and religiosity have made it one of Africa’s more homophobic places. Now, say advocates of sexual freedom, a proposed new law against homosexuals will push Uganda back into a grim kind of Victorian age, Africa-style.

Fine, say members of Uganda’s parliament, who believe they are leading a global battle to defend the traditional family. Foreign embassies, they reckon, are unduly pro-gay; the UN is alleged to be “smuggling” in “agents of immorality”. “Carnal knowledge against the order of nature”, as one MP put it, is imported by corrupt white men and women.

Uganda’s handful of brave homosexual campaigners beg to differ. Some say there are 500,000 gays among the country’s population of 33m. That is impossible to verify. What is clear is that homosexuals are often isolated, discriminated against at work and in AIDS treatment clinics, and sometimes even lynched.

Despite the grumbling of human-rights groups, Parliament is likely to pass the law with the overwhelming support of Ugandans. It will probably be stripped of its more controversial bits, such as the death penalty for “aggravated homosexuality” and the prosecution of Ugandans who engage in homosexual sex abroad. Even so, talking about homosexuality in public will be punishable with prison. Spying and sneaking on homosexuals will be encouraged. Failure to report instances of anal sex, whether between gay or straight people, could become a criminal offence too.

Uganda could even set a trend for other African countries, most of which retain colonial laws against sodomy. Some Africans had hoped rapid urbanisation, together with South Africa’s recognition of same-sex marriage, would lead to greater acceptance of homosexuality in sub-Saharan Africa. But the influence of Christian evangelicals, especially from America, matched by their counterparts from Muslim countries, may have had the opposite effect.

Homosexuality fascinates many Africans as much as it repels. The recent marriage of two Kenyan men in London was headline news back home. So for the time being gay life in Africa is one of survival, with richer gays often emigrating to more tolerant climes.

RandomGuy
11-17-2009, 01:48 PM
Incredibly dumb law, IMO.

It is an immoral law.

DarkReign
11-17-2009, 02:23 PM
Its fucking Uganda, nothing surprises me that comes out of Africa. We're talking about a large population of people who didnt have written language until travelers gave it to them.

Being behind on the "social conscience meter" isnt their main problem, being barbaric and ignorant are.

NFGIII
11-17-2009, 03:35 PM
Incredibly dumb law, IMO.

It is an immoral law.


I agree but this is Uganda and if they want to do this then they can. Regardless of how we think it's their country.

As for it being immoral well that's a matter of interpretation/perception. It was a moral way of living for thousands for years according to the Bible and other societies. Homosexuals were put out of the camp during the 40 years of wandering in the desert and discriminated against for millineum. Morality to me is an evolutionary process and some societies are at certain stages of it. I'm not defending the Ugandan law but as an example Asians on the whole think nothing of nepotism but in this country that is immoral/unethical. In fact if you didn't try to get your relatives into a good job by using your influence at XYZ Co. then you're in for some explaining to the family. It's expected.

I usually don't get into debating ethics/morality with other cultures. Seems to me a waste of time since most cultures will defend their perception as being the right way to live. Just look at the Arabs and the cultures based on Islam and the Koran. They have some pretty harsh ways of dealing with what they would consider social deviants. And as everyone knows they are Allah's children and we are a bunch of infidels who need to be either converted or exterminated.

DarrinS
11-17-2009, 03:37 PM
I guess homos have it pretty good here after all.

hater
11-17-2009, 04:29 PM
reminds me of my old african friend from college

whenever asked about gays he'd say: "In Afffrica we bourne those moddafukas!"

Wild Cobra
11-17-2009, 06:06 PM
Hmmm...

Silly anti gay laws...

The only country in Africa that has dealt a blow to their AIDs epidemic also!

Possibly related?

MiamiHeat
11-17-2009, 06:11 PM
Don't put "the family" in quotations like ti doesn't mean anything asstard

"The Family" made you. Your parents were a family.

The family is a sacred union in humanity, the Father, the Mother, and the Son/Daughter.

The Holy Trinity. read up about it

i am telling you, the more homosexuals push, the more that the SILENT MAJORITY will begin to get angry. Stop fucking with marriage and trying to attack people who support it.

Good move Uganda.

baseline bum
11-17-2009, 10:04 PM
Hmmm...

Silly anti gay laws...

The only country in Africa that has dealt a blow to their AIDs epidemic also!

Possibly related?

So if true, are you saying the ends justify the means?

Wild Cobra
11-17-2009, 10:23 PM
So if true, are you saying the ends justify the means?
Just an observation.

Wow...

This is my 10,000th post!

Winehole23
11-17-2009, 11:36 PM
Hmmm...

Silly anti gay laws...

The only country in Africa that has dealt a blow to their AIDs epidemic also!

Possibly related?Instead of making wild speculations, please read something.

http://www.avert.org/aids-uganda.htm