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bigbendbruisebrother
04-20-2005, 03:44 PM
I hadn't seen this article posted or discussed yet:

Buck Harvey: Pressure of being Karl: The words of the psyched-out

When George Karl arrives in a few days, he will have something to say. He always does.

But for now his message comes through others, from other newspapers, and it's a familiar theme.

It's about the pressure that comes with being favored. "We can live with losing in the first round," Karl said of his Nuggets last week before he knew the playoff match-ups. "I don't know if Phoenix or San Antonio can."

Karl has a point. If Denver wins this series, no one in the Spurs organization will want to live within a zip code of Gregg Popovich.

But why did Karl go out of his way to frame the expectations before the regular season was even over? Why, while coaching the league's hottest team, did Karl announce it's OK if the winning stops?

Is Karl trying to psyche out the Spurs? Or is he telling himself to relax, because he's felt the pressure before?

Karl, after all, is the one still living with a few things.

Karl will say more as the series goes along. He once challenged a star player to a game of "Scrabble" just to prove who was smarter, and he challenges everyone else with his presence and knowledge of the game.

It's earned him huge contracts, as well as considerable respect. Little wonder Doug Moe joined his former Spurs assistant on the bench, and Rick Majerus will be a playoff consultant. Karl talks the game with the best of them.

He's also had to deal with the worst, beginning with his infamous moment. His top-seeded Sonics lost to, coincidentally, Denver in 1994, and it's the NBA standard by which all other upsets are judged.

But Karl has had to live with more. The same personality that can be both playful and demanding in a locker room is the same personality that can irritate everyone. After all, how many coaches could average 59 wins over six full seasons — as Karl did in Seattle — and have to leave?

Milwaukee didn't care about the details. At Majerus' recommendation, the Bucks gave Karl a then-record $7 million annual salary, and Karl rewarded the franchise with some winning seasons.

But Karl, again, had a few things to say. He moaned to Esquire magazine about the "anointments of the young Afro-American coach," suggesting white assistants were being passed over, and he warred with his players.

The Bucks followed with an epic collapse, losing 14 of their final 19 games in 2002. The Bucks became the first team in league history to fail to make the playoffs when leading its division after the ides of March.

And if that wasn't enough to live with: Karl coached the United States to a sixth-place finish in the 2002 World Championships.

He says he's learned a few things from his failures, but some in the league wonder. After all, Karl hasn't had enough time to mess up things in Denver, has he?

Besides, after Jeff Bzdelik lost the Nuggets, Karl found rare talent. Kenyon Martin was once a first overall draft pick, Marcus Camby a second and Carmelo Anthony a third.

Andre Miller and Nene? Merely a seven and an eight.

The Spurs don't have this kind of pedigree. Karl simply had to plug in his intensity and direction, and the talent emerged.

Does that make Karl the coach of the year? Ask Milwaukee, a franchise still affected by its former coach. Karl gave away Ray Allen, as well as a lot of money. The Bucks are still paying Jason Caffey and Anthony Mason about $10 million combined.

That doesn't take away Karl's impact in Denver, nor does it minimize the Nuggets' chances in the first round. The Spurs can lose this series, especially if Tim Duncan's ankle bends again.

If that happens, it will be a first for Popovich. He's lost badly in the playoffs before, but he's never really been upset. Losing to the Lakers doesn't qualify, especially when a couple of championships are mixed in to the equation.

So should the thought of losing this series haunt Popovich? Or Duncan or Manu Ginobili or Tony Parker, all of whom have rings? Or should the thought of losing haunt the last coach to post the best record after the All-Star break and lose in the first round?

That would be Karl.

MadDog73
04-20-2005, 03:51 PM
Honestly, who has more to prove, Karl or Pop?

If Pop and the Spurs are at all nervous, they shouldn't be. They should go in with the idea that they will cream these guys... 'cause they can.

bigbendbruisebrother
04-20-2005, 03:59 PM
Or should the thought of losing haunt the last coach to post the best record after the All-Star break and lose in the first round?

That would be Karl.

So it has been. So it shall be.

T Park
04-20-2005, 04:33 PM
As usual another great article from Buck Harvey.

There is a real possibility of losing this series.

The Spurs, after tonight, maybe tonight, need to WAKE UP, and start workin together.

MadDog73
04-20-2005, 04:36 PM
oh come on T-Park. You act like the Spurs are noobs to the whole Playoff thing.

If they haven't learned their lesson from last year, they deserve to lose.

But I'm betting they have learned, and will treat the Nuggets with respect, but not fear. Everything I've read from the coaches and the players confirm that.

MeAndBobThrowChairs
04-20-2005, 04:47 PM
Wow tpark you never cease to amaze me with how down you get on this team. The nuggets could win and there is a possibility we could lose, but theres also a possibility the Hawks will go 73 and 9 next year and sweep everyone in the playoffs. Along with that the Cubs win the next 6 World Series. Anythings possible, but doesn't mean its gonna happen. Spurs will win the series in five because Rasho will average 43 ppg and make 87% of his three pointers attempted :drunk .But hey, its possible... :rolleyes.

manustarting2gd
04-20-2005, 05:27 PM
Lol^^^ :lol :lol :lol

boutons
04-20-2005, 05:48 PM
"If they haven't learned their lesson from last year, they deserve to lose."

The Lakers played defense, shutting down the paint (Tim and Tony), games 3-6, and Spurs lost all 4.

The Spurs offense is great (when they feel like playing) when the other team plays no defense.

If you look at half the losses this year, if the opponent plays some defense, shuts down the paint, generally hustles and hassles, the Spurs offense is pretty weak, losing games, almost half of Spurs total losses:

4th qtr TOR defense @TOR = L

loss @MIA, good paint defense = L

2 losses @HOU = 2L

2 losses @MEM, tons of turnovers (evein in the 2Ws) = 2L

1 blowout @DAL/AJ = L

Hustling Clips @SBC = ugly, lucky W

2 losses at @UTA, they hustle, scrap = 2L

And of course, also agitating against the Spurs is their 5th-best road record among WC teams.

The above is why the Spurs absolutely have to continue their season dominance @SBC into the playoffs by always taking games 1,2 @SBC. Splitting @SBC puts the road-weak Spurs into very dangerous water.

T Park
04-20-2005, 06:10 PM
Guess we can just send in the season then right Boutons.


Fuckin depressing fuck.

MeAndBobThrowChairs
04-20-2005, 06:20 PM
yeah boutons thats 11 games. we played pretty damn good in the other 70 excluding at Indiana and New York.

boutons
04-20-2005, 06:22 PM
Why does any comment about the Spurs factual weakness, about their fucking public record and losses, get trashed?

T Park
04-20-2005, 06:24 PM
why do you have to be such a fuckin blowhard on saying the spurs suck all the fucking time.


Where is your facts on Duncan and GInobili missing time factored into it???


Thats why it gets trashed, because its fucking garbage.

duncan2k5
04-20-2005, 06:32 PM
lolol@T Park's comments., but really...why are we the only fans that worry like this? you think detroit fans worry among themselves that they might lose to philly? its the NUGGETS people, they are supposed to lose with a name like that. i eat nuggets for friggin lunch. my team wont lose to them in the playoffs. betters beleives. how can we? earl the pearl isnt a threat. isn't kmart bankrupt? anyway wal-mart is better so we dont have K to worry about, camby is old. his ben wallace imitation wont last long. nene doesn't have a last name. i mean...come on. do u expect timmy to get schooled by a guy with no last name? its like he doesn't even exist. marshmello is currently being auctioned off along with a buttplug and superman undies...because Bowen OWNS his ASS!!! andre miller left his game on the best LA team. rondey buford...the name says it all. vashon Leonard...now we know where shaq's pounds went. i'll be surprised if he can even get his ass off the couch. francisco elson looks weird. george karl wore a throwback jersey. i mean...that team has so many things wrong with them...and we are worrying? once again... as steven A. smith would say in an emphatic tone...PLEASE!!!!

T Park
04-20-2005, 07:28 PM
The Pistons fans arent worrying about Philly because they stink.

You worry about Denver because they are the hottest team in the league AND one of the better teams.

They just needed a coach without his head up his ass like Bzdelik or Cooper.

SequSpur
04-20-2005, 07:30 PM
If the Spurs lose, Pop will never get the blame for shit. It'll be some jacked up reason as to the Spurs are soft, blah blah...

Man Fuck Pop.

T Park
04-20-2005, 07:42 PM
yeah, HIRE JOHN LUCAS

Right Sequ???

Fuck sequ.