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Cant_Be_Faded
11-22-2009, 05:37 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/14/business/media/14vulgar.html?_r=1&hp


LOS ANGELES — On many nights this fall, it has been possible to tune in to broadcast network television during prime time and hear a character call someone else a “douche.”

In just the last several weeks, it has happened on CBS’s “The New Adventures of Old Christine” and the CW’s “The Vampire Diaries,” which are broadcast at 8 p.m., during what used to be known as the family hour. It has been heard this fall on Fox’s new series “The Cleveland Show,” which begins at 8:30, and on ABC’s “Grey’s Anatomy.” On NBC, its use has spanned the old and the new, blurted out on the freshman comedy “Community” and the seasoned drama “Law & Order: Special Victims Unit.”

In total, the word has surfaced at least 76 times already this year on 26 prime-time network series, according to research by the Parents Television Council, which compiled the statistics at the request of The New York Times. That is up from 30 uses on 15 shows in all of 2007 and just six instances on four programs in 2005.

Ever since George Carlin laid out the “Seven Words You Can Never Say on Television” in 1972, television writers and broadcasters have been digging more deeply into the thesaurus, seizing on new ways to titillate, if not offend. And while the word “douche” is neither obscene nor profane — although this usage is certainly offensive to many people — it seems to represent the latest of broadcast television’s continuing efforts to expand the boundaries of taste, in part to stem the tide of defections by its audience to largely unregulated cable television.

As a result, words that previously were rarely heard on television suddenly turn up everywhere, while once unspeakable slurs become passé from overuse. The use of the word, “bitch,” for example, tripled in the last decade alone, growing to 1,277 uses on 685 shows in 2007 from 431 uses on 103 prime-time episodes in 1998.

The Parents Television Council is a conservative interest group that monitors (and opposes) profanity on television, but television writers themselves acknowledge that the language on networks has changed.

“As a writer, you’re always reaching for a more potent way to call somebody a jerk,” Dan Harmon, the creator of “Community,” said about the word “douche.” “This is a word that has evolved in the last couple of years — a thing that sounds like a thing you can’t say.”

It is not simply that the language is becoming more raw on broadcast networks but that the language, violence and sex that formerly was restricted to the 10 p.m. hour has migrated to earlier time slots.

Recent research by Barbara K. Kaye of the University of Tennessee and Barry S. Sapolsky of Florida State University found that in 2005 television viewers were more likely to hear offensive language during the 8 p.m. and 9 p.m. hours than at 10 p.m. Technically, there has not been a “family hour” since 1976, when a United States District Court in California struck down the imposition of such a policy by the Federal Communications Commission. But broadcast networks observed the practice long after that.

No more, it seems. At a symposium sponsored last summer by a group of 40 national advertisers known as the Alliance for Family Entertainment, the heads of the major networks said the idea of a family hour was antiquated and did not fit how families consume television today. Nina Tassler, the president of CBS Entertainment, commented that shows like her network’s “Old Christine” “merely reflect a different family dynamic.”

That dynamic includes the frequent use of profanities — broadly defined as anything from sexual and excretory words to milder words like “hell.” Ms. Kaye and Mr. Sapolsky found that their use on broadcast prime-time television jumped from a rate of 5.5 times an hour in 1990 to 7.6 in 2001 and 9.8 in 2005.

While the fastest growth was in the use of the stronger words, the term “jackass” has gained favor recently, appearing in 34 family-hour shows so far this year, up from 31 in 2007 and 27 in 2005. Other words have come in and out of favor: “sucks,” for example, appeared in 226 family-hour episodes in 2005, fell to 120 in 2007 and rose again to 232 so far this year, according to the council’s research.

The only time in recent years that the instance of profanity briefly declined, Ms. Kaye said, was in 1997, shortly after television ratings were put into place. Network officials say they continue to pay great attention to broadcast standards.

“We are still in the line-drawing business,” said Martin D. Franks, executive vice president for planning, policy and government relations at the CBS Corporation. “We may not have a formal family hour at 8 o’clock, but we are trying to be respectful of our audience and who makes up our audience at a particular time of day.”

Not everyone in the business agrees. Neal Baer, an executive producer of “Law & Order: Special Victims Unit,” said that because the series was repeated in syndication and on cable at all times of the day, the producers could not worry about what time something was going to be viewed. “It’s hypocritical to say that you have to have shows on broadcast networks at 10 but they run at 3 or 4 or 5 in the afternoon on cable,” Mr. Baer said. “Kids have access to cable.”

Users of the recently popular word “douche” defend its use, noting that it was invoked, usually with the suffix “bag,” in the 1990s by the character Andy Sipowicz on “NYPD Blue,” an ABC series that frequently pushed the boundaries of network acceptability.

Timothy Jay, a psychology professor at the Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts and the author of “Cursing in America,” said the word has evolved to the point where it has lost much of its offensiveness. “Vulgar slang has a way of waxing and waning, where we become desensitized to a word’s earlier meanings,” he said. “I would bet most kids today couldn’t tell you what a douche bag is.”




rofl

Ignignokt
11-22-2009, 05:44 PM
Gay, should be the next word on that list.

Cant_Be_Faded
11-22-2009, 05:48 PM
After Stepbrothers, I personally think doucher is way funnier.

Ignignokt
11-22-2009, 05:50 PM
Pretty much the same people that overuse the word "douche" are the same who go out of their way to state their hatred for Nickelback, (the band that suck fyi).

It's like, okay we get that you hate Nickelback and you listen to indie music, and Mars Volta...

But you still at one point or the other shopped at hot topic, American apparel, or listen to the White Stripes. How can you be any better?

Ignignokt
11-22-2009, 05:53 PM
After Stepbrothers, I personally think doucher is way funnier.

Douche has (s)permeated through every american channel, medium, subculture you name it, but probably just started making waves on "The Ticket". Expect Maverons to start replacing the KFC chant with Douche for everyone of their targets.

Cant_Be_Faded
11-22-2009, 05:56 PM
i only been listening to the ticket since early this spring so i dont know

mookie2001
11-22-2009, 06:00 PM
i think both words are much too populario for their own good

i dont think ive ever said or typed that word

also add


butthurt, FIFY and fag

if you type these on the internets more than once you should reconsider what it means to be human

Ignignokt
11-22-2009, 06:00 PM
i only been listening to the ticket since early this spring so i dont know

Dude, i've been in Dallas and i've avoided the Ticket as much as i can.

Every city has a shitty station that needs to be smart bombed.

Dallas: The Ticket

Austin : KUT? the one that has NPR and plays shitty ethnic music and obscure neo soul.


Brownsville, Laredo, the Valley: Paulino Bernal Radio 24/7. More basketball knowledge and sheep than the dallas area sports programming.

Ignignokt
11-22-2009, 06:05 PM
i think both words are much too populario for their own good

i dont think ive ever said or typed that word

also add


butthurt, FIFY and fag

if you type these on the internets more than once you should reconsider what it means to be human

Not as bad as...

Owned, fo' sho, or the afro smiley.

koriwhat
11-22-2009, 06:37 PM
Pretty much the same people that overuse the word "douche" are the same who go out of their way to state their hatred for Nickelback, (the band that suck fyi).

It's like, okay we get that you hate Nickelback and you listen to indie music, and Mars Volta...

But you still at one point or the other shopped at hot topic, American apparel, or listen to the White Stripes. How can you be any better?

stop trying to defend your poor taste in music. nickelback is fuckin' shit!

mouse
11-22-2009, 06:58 PM
I wish I could flush this topic out of my mind but the truth is, it's about time the tv industry cleaned up their shows .

Ignignokt
11-22-2009, 07:01 PM
stop trying to defend your poor taste in music. nickelback is fuckin' shit!

Nickelback does suck, you're right.


start trying to defend your poor skills in reading comprehension.

Ignignokt
11-22-2009, 07:04 PM
stop trying to defend your poor taste in music. nickelback is fuckin' shit!


Parentheses are good Moron bait.



Pretty much the same people that overuse the word "douche" are the same who go out of their way to state their hatred for Nickelback, (the band that suck fyi).

It's like, okay we get that you hate Nickelback and you listen to indie music, and Mars Volta...

But you still at one point or the other shopped at hot topic, American apparel, or listen to the White Stripes. How can you be any better?

mouse
11-22-2009, 07:09 PM
I wonder if this will effect this summers eve TV ratings.

Ignignokt
11-22-2009, 07:14 PM
I wonder if this will effect this summers eve TV ratings.

:td

thispego
11-22-2009, 07:15 PM
what the fuck does FIFY mean?

and i'm gonna have to take credit for butt hurt. noone was using that on spurstalk til i created it. i should be collecting royalties

koriwhat
11-22-2009, 07:17 PM
Parentheses are good Moron bait.

that's awesome you needed two replies just to get my attention.

btw, i skimmed your first reply and just assumed you were this guy, Spursfan092120. oh and "moron bait" is even dumber than douche or butthurt. you must listen to nickelback afterall.

mouse
11-22-2009, 07:22 PM
Some pussy's are already complaining this is being rammed down their throats.

koriwhat
11-22-2009, 07:22 PM
what the fuck does FIFY mean?

and i'm gonna have to take credit for butt hurt. noone was using that on spurstalk til i created it. i should be collecting royalties

i've been told it means "fixed it for you"

koriwhat
11-22-2009, 07:23 PM
Some pussy's are already complaining this is being rammed down their throats.

:lmao

that's 3 now mouse. keep deliverin' them!

Ignignokt
11-22-2009, 07:32 PM
that's awesome you needed two replies just to get my attention.

btw, i skimmed your first reply and just assumed you were this guy, Spursfan092120. oh and "moron bait" is even dumber than douche or butthurt. you must listen to nickelback afterall.

I had to write in two seperate posts. Too much reading in one post probably makes your brain hurt.
Also...
Skimming doesn't equal reading. That probably explains the shitty hairdo and equally retarded tatoos.

Douche-Bag
11-22-2009, 08:15 PM
8tqEBQjWRws

See???

We douches are trendsetters yo!!!

Fer realz, we can't be faded son!!!!

Douche-Bag
11-22-2009, 08:17 PM
Ridicucrunkulous!!!

mookie2001
11-22-2009, 08:24 PM
Users of the recently popular word “douche” defend its use, noting that it was invoked, usually with the suffix “bag,” in the 1990s by the character Andy Sipowicz on “NYPD Blue,”
on tv maybe, the first time i can remember is that puerto rican guy calls Sean Penn a douchebag in Bad Boys, that movies almost 30 years old

mouse
11-22-2009, 08:33 PM
It seems this issue has divided the networks in two teams Team water and Team Vinegar.

CubanSucks
11-22-2009, 08:39 PM
Along with 'fag', douche is another word broken through the t.v. norm by South Park.

Cyrano
11-22-2009, 09:39 PM
It's been in use for quite a while....here's an example from the 70's.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_b3oPslctA

LOL....while I was writing this post, "American Dad" just called somebody a douchbag!