View Full Version : If Colt McCoy wins a national title
ATRAIN
11-24-2009, 01:43 PM
Will mookie and the other Post UT nuthuggers slob on his sack when he is in the pros like VY?
Discuss
Kermit
11-24-2009, 01:52 PM
Will mookie and the other Post UT nuthuggers slob on his sack when he is in the pros like VY?
Discuss
Mario Williams for the sac.....whoops, no there goes Vince.
mookie2001
11-24-2009, 02:04 PM
i disagree with blake.
ATRAIN
11-24-2009, 02:05 PM
i disagree with blake.
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mookie2001
11-24-2009, 02:09 PM
i never said vince was peyton manning or would go MVP and win the superbowl, i just disagree with blake
ATRAIN
11-24-2009, 02:10 PM
i never said vince was peyton manning or would go MVP and win the superbowl, i just disagree with blake
So you admitting that you dont nuthug VY?
mookie2001
11-24-2009, 02:13 PM
that doesnt mean anything dude be serious or drop it
I. Hustle
11-24-2009, 02:15 PM
Will mookie and the other Post UT nuthuggers slob on his sack when he is in the pros like VY?
Discuss
Shut up fag
ATRAIN
11-24-2009, 02:16 PM
that doesnt mean anything dude be serious or drop it
I am serious, half of Austin could give two shits about the Titans, then all of a sudden he goes to them and they are fans, thennnnnnnn he has emotional issues and is on the bench all season and no one cares about them again, then he wins four straight and Austin is licking his balls again. I was asking a serious question, sorry if it offends you.
TFloss32
11-24-2009, 02:16 PM
Well, this thread is right on time.
ATRAIN
11-24-2009, 02:16 PM
Shut up fag
:lmao
mookie2001
11-24-2009, 02:20 PM
1. these people you speak of arent real fans, just like manu fans arent real spurs fans
2. naturally the interest would go down even though the titans have 3 other longhorns starters
3. when you say blake testicle shit over and over and over again you lose any rational argument you may have
ATRAIN
11-24-2009, 02:24 PM
1. these people you speak of arent real fans, just like manu fans arent real spurs fans
Well played sir and yes I know this. It just pisses me off. Like ive said before I hate bandwagon and fairweather fans. I love VY for what he did at UT but he is a division rival now and on a team ive hated for leaving Houston. I was an oilers fan. I would LOVE to see Colt get drafted by Washington. It was be awesome to see him lead a charge over the Cowboys.
ATRAIN
11-24-2009, 02:25 PM
1. these people you speak of arent real fans, just like manu fans arent real spurs fans
2. naturally the interest would go down even though the titans have 3 other longhorns starters
3. when you say blake testicle shit over and over and over again you lose any rational argument you may have
As far as number 2 goes I bet half of the titans followers could even name all 3.
benefactor
11-24-2009, 02:36 PM
I love VY for what he did at UT but he is a division rival now and on a team ive hated for leaving Houston. I was an oilers fan.
This...and the fact that he trashed Houston repeatedly in many different venues for not taking him when it was obvious he was not the right choice. We got the player we wanted...and needed.
As far as Colt goes...I will cheer for him on any team that is not in Houston's division or going against Houston head to head. I'd like to see him in the Cowboys division, but I don't know about the Foreskins. Dan Snyder is just as evil as Bud Adams. Heir apparent to McNabb perhaps?
mookie2001
11-24-2009, 02:39 PM
well then thats what makes this such a interesting situation
he is from houston texas, famous as a high schooler, he went to the university of texas, turned the program around, won two rose bowls and a national championship, then got passed up by his hometown team and went to a division rival, that used to the houston oilers
people dont become fans overnight, i have no problem with texans fans, but they shouldnt act like they have some kind of history and the team should command 100% loyalty because theyve had a team for 7 seasons that hasnt done shit. ever.
i for one do not care for any team in the NFL, i only hate the dallas cowboys, i want to root for the greatest player in texas history, if he gets benched or throws picks and losses, im not going to lose sleep over it because I could care less about the titans
the emotional suicidal stories are bullshit, vince has been a model citizen in college and in the pros and he gets shit for drinking tequila without a shirt and for turning his cell phone off for a day, give me a fucking break, classic case of the media building someone up to tear them down, can you imagine if vince young had been murdered by his mistress? the ESPN headquarters would fucking explode with excitement
hes been through the shit, he is a tough motherfucker, you cant break him, his mom was a crack addict and a prostitute and his father figure and best friend was murdered this year, if that had happened to any one of us, what do you think would happen
IronMexican
11-24-2009, 02:52 PM
McCoy doesn't really have an NFL future. HE's a great college QB, but he wont get drafted any earlier than the 3rd round in the NFL.
ATRAIN
11-24-2009, 03:02 PM
McCoy doesn't really have an NFL future. HE's a great college QB, but he wont get drafted any earlier than the 3rd round in the NFL.
Im not sure about that
As far as I'm concerned, Austin is a Colts city, because I'm the coolest person in Austin.
Fuck NFL Vince Young. He did some great things for the Horns. I loved him when he was on the Horns. Not anymore.
Spursfan092120
11-24-2009, 03:10 PM
Im not sure about that
ATRAIN
11-24-2009, 03:11 PM
As far as I'm concerned, Austin is a Colts city, because I'm the coolest person in Austin.
.
J dont you live in SM though? :lmao
J dont you live in SM though? :lmao
Not anymore.
IronMexican
11-24-2009, 03:14 PM
Im not sure about that
Brah, he's a great college QB. Once he played OU, he didn't have enough zip on the ball to get it to his receivers. And if he tries to run that much in the NFL, he's going to get killed.
Goran Dragic
11-24-2009, 03:28 PM
1. these people you speak of arent real fans, just like manu fans arent real spurs fans
The best thing about Manu fans is their defensive responses about how they cheered for the Spurs way before Manu.
Kermit
11-24-2009, 03:35 PM
houston fan is definitely butt-hurt today.
ATRAIN
11-24-2009, 03:36 PM
The best thing about Manu fans is their defensive responses about how they cheered for the Spurs way before Manu.
especially the ones from Argentina
mookie2001
11-24-2009, 03:36 PM
but but dont cheer we've had our own team for six years!
ATRAIN
11-24-2009, 03:38 PM
houston fan is definitely butt-hurt today.
Its not even about the game last night cause I would feel this way if Houston would have won. Just making a point. There were some Tits fans in Texas but not much then Vy got there and all of a sudden they were all over and the VY jersey could be bought all over Austin. Then they lose (and VY rides the pine) and they are all cowboys fans or what not, then vy comes back and starts and wins then they are all over again.
Kermit
11-24-2009, 03:39 PM
how fucking funny will it be if the titans make the playoffs and the texans don't. will they average 30,000 fans a game next year?
bill cowher will save us!!!!!
Kermit
11-24-2009, 03:40 PM
Its not even about the game last night cause I would feel this way if Houston would have won. Just making a point. There were some Tits fans in Texas but not much then Vy got there and all of a sudden they were all over and the VY jersey could be bought all over Austin. Then they lose (and VY rides the pine) and they are all cowboys fans or what not, then vy comes back and starts and wins then they are all over again.
vinsanity is a funny thing. imagine how much worse it would be if he actually played for the texans.
ATRAIN
11-24-2009, 03:41 PM
vinsanity is a funny thing. imagine how much worse it would be if he actually played for the texans.
OR if he played for the Cowboys
MajorMike
11-24-2009, 03:44 PM
As an outside observer, it is almost sad to see Colt not getting his full due from a good majority of VY lovers. I really do think VY would have proven just what he is proving in the pros if he had stayed - he's an amazing talent that is a head case and gets injured and disappears in the face of adversity.
Colt has already proven to be the winningest QB ever but unless he wins the BCS, he will always just be the next Major or Chrissy.
Kermit
11-24-2009, 03:46 PM
why do you think that colt doesn't get his due? people fucking love colt. colt will be bigger than jesus if he wins a mnc.
mookie2001
11-24-2009, 03:47 PM
if vince played for the cowboys i would become a nascar and mma fan
ATRAIN
11-24-2009, 03:51 PM
why do you think that colt doesn't get his due? people fucking love colt. colt will be bigger than jesus if he wins a mnc.
Mikes got a point I dont see Colt getting the love VY did and would.
ATRAIN
11-24-2009, 03:52 PM
if vince played for the cowboys i would become a nascar and mma fan
:lol
Deion Sanders
11-24-2009, 03:56 PM
Oh! A phong is ringin!
Deion Sanders
11-24-2009, 03:57 PM
Hello? They won't say who it is!
Deion Sanders
11-24-2009, 03:57 PM
Michael Trabtree
Whisky Dog
11-24-2009, 04:19 PM
I don't give a fuck about the Texans so I have no reason not to root for Vince to do well. Actually, I want him and all other longhorns to have success because that success gives the program higher value with blue chip recruits. Just like TJ Ford and Kevin Durant did for the bball program.
Whisky Dog
11-24-2009, 04:24 PM
As an outside observer, it is almost sad to see Colt not getting his full due from a good majority of VY lovers. I really do think VY would have proven just what he is proving in the pros if he had stayed - he's an amazing talent that is a head case and gets injured and disappears in the face of adversity.
Colt has already proven to be the winningest QB ever but unless he wins the BCS, he will always just be the next Major or Chrissy.
You must be standing far outside because I don't know any true horns who aren't giving Colt his due.
Fact is VY brought a NC that was over 30 in the making creating a huge hunger that was fulfilled in the most satisfying way possible - punking the supposed "greatest team of all time" in their own back yard in arguably the best college football game ever played
TFloss32
11-24-2009, 04:31 PM
McCoy doesn't really have an NFL future. HE's a great college QB, but he wont get drafted any earlier than the 3rd round in the NFL.
I have always wondered what Colt McCoy's future in the NFL is going to be like, but he definitely has the tools to be an efficient QB. He has the arm, the smarts, the accuracy, the mobility (when necessary). The situation he ends up when will be a big determining factor of his success or lack thereof. How high or low he goes in the draft is irrelevant. Take Matt Leinart for example (since you're a USC guy). The QB position is the hardest to predict, IMO, when a player transitions from college to the NFL. It feels like the least hyped guys usually have the most success. I think (and hope) that Colt will surprise some people if given the opportunity.
IronMexican
11-24-2009, 05:24 PM
I have always wondered what Colt McCoy's future in the NFL is going to be like, but he definitely has the tools to be an efficient QB. He has the arm, the smarts, the accuracy, the mobility (when necessary). The situation he ends up when will be a big determining factor of his success or lack thereof. How high or low he goes in the draft is irrelevant. Take Matt Leinart for example (since you're a USC guy). The QB position is the hardest to predict, IMO, when a player transitions from college to the NFL. It feels like the least hyped guys usually have the most success. I think (and hope) that Colt will surprise some people if given the opportunity.
He has the arm? dunno about that. QB is definitely the hardest position to predict. It's why I always want teams to go linemen over QB in the first pick for the draft.
I just don't see McCoy having much success. Weak arm and is very small(Drew Brees is as well, but most of his time is spent in the pocket). He could possible be a Pennington. Very accurate and a smart player. McCoy is a couple of years from NFL ready.
stretch
11-24-2009, 05:26 PM
Mikes got a point I dont see Colt getting the love VY did and would.
VY didnt get VY love until after winning a national championship. and consider the circumstances...
the guy had the single greatest performance in college football (and arguably sports, period) history, against "the greatest team of all time" and finally brought a championship to a school that hadnt had one in a LOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time
granted, Colt probably wont be able to get the kind of love VY, and thats because VY had much different circumstances, but Colt sure will get his fair amount after they win the NC this year
stretch
11-24-2009, 05:27 PM
You must be standing far outside because I don't know any true horns who aren't giving Colt his due.
Fact is VY brought a NC that was over 30 in the making creating a huge hunger that was fulfilled in the most satisfying way possible - punking the supposed "greatest team of all time" in their own back yard in arguably the best college football game ever played
ah looks like you sorta beat me to it
stretch
11-24-2009, 05:30 PM
He has the arm? dunno about that. QB is definitely the hardest position to predict. It's why I always want teams to go linemen over QB in the first pick for the draft.
I just don't see McCoy having much success. Weak arm and is very small(Drew Brees is as well, but most of his time is spent in the pocket). He could possible be a Pennington. Very accurate and a smart player. McCoy is a couple of years from NFL ready.
hes definitely got a better arm than Pennington, and is like 6'2 - 6'3, which is pretty decent height for a QB. and he has packed on quite a bit of muscle since his early days. he can definitely take the beating.
McCoy definitely has the tools for an NFL QB. will he succeed? who knows, but you are selling him short.
McCoy >>>>>> Sanchez and you bust a nut every time you see his face and hear about him
I'm sure McCoy can be at least decent, as he is similar to Sanchez in terms of tools, only better in pretty much every aspect.
IronMexican
11-24-2009, 05:34 PM
hes definitely got a better arm than Pennington, and is like 6'2 - 6'3, which is pretty decent height for a QB. and he has packed on quite a bit of muscle since his early days. he can definitely take the beating.
McCoy definitely has the tools for an NFL QB. will he succeed? who knows, but you are selling him short.
McCoy >>>>>> Sanchez and you bust a nut every time you see his face and hear about him
I'm sure McCoy can be at least decent, as he is similar to Sanchez in terms of tools, only better in pretty much every aspect.
My Sanchez love is sarcasm. I do that for every USC player not named Matt Leinart. He's behind a lot of QB's in the draft this season. It has to do with this being one of the deepest QB classes that can think of(Assuming most underclassmen declare).
mookie2001
11-24-2009, 05:37 PM
i would have to lean towards no, i dont think he'll be a good starting qb, first of all its the safe bet and one could say that about any college qb and probably be right
i think he is too small he just has a slender frame and he is not 6-2 or 6-3. that is just based on when i stood next to sam bradford, who is maybe 6-2 and at least an inch taller than mccoy when they stood back to back for a contrived friendship story this year
mccoy is also prone to fumble the football
hope im wrong
IronMexican
11-24-2009, 05:41 PM
Bradford is listed as 6'5 but probably closer to 6'3 than that.
And no way is McCoy 6'2, like mookie said.
I like Bradford as a prospect a lot. I'd take him over Clausen and Locker.
mookie2001
11-24-2009, 05:46 PM
these listings are way fucked up
where is bradford listed at 6-5? that is outlandish
i am 6 feet tall exactly, if i played college football i would probably be listed at 6-1
when i stood next to bradford i was looking at him face to face, i'll give him an inch, thats MAYBE 6-2, so he could be listed at 6-3 that leaves colt at 6-1, watch when he stands next to shipley who is 6 ft, you can tell
not that you have to be 6-3 to play in the nfl, its just another strike against you
IronMexican
11-24-2009, 05:48 PM
sambradford.org(:lmao) has him at 6'5 and wikipedia(unreliable) has him at 6'4.
stretch
11-24-2009, 05:50 PM
Bradford is listed as 6'5 but probably closer to 6'3 than that.
And no way is McCoy 6'2, like mookie said.
I like Bradford as a prospect a lot. I'd take him over Clausen and Locker.
i freaking would love it if the raiders got bradford
mookie2001
11-24-2009, 05:51 PM
that is funny, i'll give these guys an inch maybe two but more that and youre making a fool out of yourself
leemajors
11-24-2009, 09:30 PM
hes definitely got a better arm than Pennington, and is like 6'2 - 6'3, which is pretty decent height for a QB. and he has packed on quite a bit of muscle since his early days. he can definitely take the beating.
McCoy definitely has the tools for an NFL QB. will he succeed? who knows, but you are selling him short.
McCoy >>>>>> Sanchez and you bust a nut every time you see his face and hear about him
I'm sure McCoy can be at least decent, as he is similar to Sanchez in terms of tools, only better in pretty much every aspect.
Sanchez's arm is stronger. And he's taller. GMs go for that every time. Even Chutchinson got multiple chances.
Cant_Be_Faded
11-24-2009, 10:08 PM
Unbelievable.
First the use of the term "nuthugger" which basically means anything blake wants it to mean.
Second the implication that any VY fan loses sleep when he throws INT in the NFL.
Third the implication that noone can like the Titans because of VY or any of the other longhorns (uhhh, SCAIFE, Hall, Griffin, how can anyone forget the former or the latter?)
So ridiculous.
Vince Young is the shit in my mind, he will always the best college QB of all time in my eyes, and I only want him to succeed in the NFL. Who cares if VY fans get happy when he wins a game? They're not supposed to be happy because he's not among the best NFL QBs? It's like people think you can only support your college team's QB if it's a given they are "really good" at the next level. So stupid.
If Colt wins a title, I will hope him all the best in the NFL, hope he suceeds like a motherfucker. But I won't follow him or his team nearly as much. First of all, Vince is just flat out fun to watch. Second, Colt would be a normal rookie QB with little to no chance of starting as a rookie like VY did.
Pretty easy to understand.
chode_regulator
11-25-2009, 12:56 AM
This thread is retarded. Why can't I follow the Titans bc of VY? I am not a Texans fan but do root for them as they are a Texas team. When they come time to play the Chiefs or Jags then bets off, Texans must lose. Anyone else, pretty much going to pull for the Texans, naturally.
I was just hoping to see a natl televised game in which Vince schooled some motherfuckers.
The dude was washed up according to all the same experts on ESPN who are now fighting amongst each other to either A: see who can suck on his dick the most B: who can accumulate the most cum from said dick and C: who can mention the word suicide the most on tv.
I've been following the Titans since Vince was drafted much the same I follow the Texans, sort of with a mild amusement and will root for them as long as they don't play the Chiefs or Jags.
And no Colt doesn't get the attention deserved, but I would not say coming from the longhorn fanbase but from the natl media. I mean the dude set a NCAA record for most fucking wins.....EVER but all you hear about is teblow who set a conference record and converted 6 Haitian orphans to christianity at half time of the last scrub team they played.
Will Colt surpass Vince in popularity/legend? Maybe, maybe not. Def depends on whether or not he single handedly beats Florida.
Will he make it in the NFL, I hope so. In fact I was, emphasis on was, hoping the Chiefs would lose out so they could get no 1 and draft him. I can't stand that fag Cassel and would rather have a potentially weak armed colt as the qb than that overpaid chode cassel.
As an outside observer, it is almost sad to see Colt not getting his full due from a good majority of VY lovers. I really do think VY would have proven just what he is proving in the pros if he had stayed - he's an amazing talent that is a head case and gets injured and disappears in the face of adversity.
Colt has already proven to be the winningest QB ever but unless he wins the BCS, he will always just be the next Major or Chrissy.
Do you love Thurman more than you love Barry?
I'm like the majority of UT fans, I guess. I will always have a soft spot for VY because he led us back into consistent national prominence. And as someone who thought Snead would beat Colt out, I owe him an apology. Even if the Horns win out I think he'll stay at Major-level amongst the UT pantheon, beneath Vince.
I really never thought I'd see a national title for my school in football. We were so damn mediocre I thought we'd turn into Minnesota or Arizona State when I was there. I was schoolgirl giddy in 05. I couldn't believe it was happening - I still have the Rose Bowl on my laptop. Now we're already talking about a second in a fistful of years and we have the winningest QB in history under center?
We need to have Colt win a title before having this discussion. I think most diehards will choose Vince because of the national relevancy issue and the epic SC game. Colt's got three games to go, hopefully. I got no problem with a jersey retirement or anything if the Horns lose somewhere along the line, but VY was the last UT QB to hoist the crystal football.
Blake
11-25-2009, 01:48 AM
i disagree with blake.
What exactly is it that you disagree with?
Blake
11-25-2009, 02:04 AM
Unbelievable.
First the use of the term "nuthugger" which basically means anything blake wants it to mean.
It pretty much means a fan that hugs nuts....
I'll give you an example.
Like him or not, Vince is leading this team to a victory..CJ has 200 yards rushing, yes..but Vince has had a great day..15/18, 125 yards, and a TD...a lot better than a lot of people thought...can we say, "new starter?"
how many times do you say that a guy that threw for 125 "had a great day" and is "leading this team to a victory"?
At least he included CJ foing for 200 in his footnotes.
LOL texans
11-25-2009, 11:51 AM
I don't even like the TITans or was even an Oiler fan. Hell I don't support any teams from that shithole of a city Houston.
But I like Vince. He gave Horns fans a memorable season and he is obviously the most popular Longhorn ever. Its not hard to believe that people would follow him and want him to do well in the NFL. You see that all the time among college towns.
:lmao @ texan fan butthurt and swollen vaginas.
DisgruntledLionFan#54,927
11-25-2009, 07:15 PM
Sanchez's arm is stronger. And he's taller.
And he has a bigger frame, better technique and was coming from a pro-style offense.
As prospects, they aren't remotely close. I'd guess late 2nd/early 3rd at best as of now. Reminds me of Drew Stanton.
Brown's O does him no favors in preparing him for the NFL. Colt is simply too raw in terms of things he'll be asked to do in the NFL and needs to sit for a while and get the proper coaching to become a legitimate NFL QB.
mookie2001
11-25-2009, 07:22 PM
i tend to agree but come on colt mccoy has flawless technique
and "pro style" offense really doesnt mean anything, if you mean he doesnt use the 5 step drop then youre right
hes small with poor arm strength, but talking about technique and "pro style" offenses is just wrong
DisgruntledLionFan#54,927
11-25-2009, 07:29 PM
I mean he isn't asked to make NFL reads or throws, at least not on a consistent basis.
One of the draft guys showed a stat where Colt has the highest percentage of throws under 5 yards of any QB that will be draft eligible.
He needs to ace the combine, IMO.
pkbpkb81
11-25-2009, 08:56 PM
i for one do not care for any team in the NFL, i only hate the dallas cowboys, i want to root for the greatest player in texas history, if he gets benched or throws picks and losses, im not going to lose sleep over it because I could care less about the titans
Just wondering would he still be considered the greatest player in Texas history if colt wins a national title.
Kermit
11-25-2009, 08:58 PM
Just wondering would he still be considered the greatest player in Texas history if colt wins a national title.
Yes.
pkbpkb81
11-25-2009, 09:04 PM
Yes.
Really they both would have two bcs wins and both have a nc but colt has a better record against OU and more career wins
so why would you still put vy ahead of him again not talking shit just wondering how longhorn fans think
Kermit
11-25-2009, 11:32 PM
Really they both would have two bcs wins and both have a nc but colt has a better record against OU and more career wins
so why would you still put vy ahead of him again not talking shit just wondering how longhorn fans think
it's been explained ad nauseum. in this very thread. on this page. read.
mookie2001
11-25-2009, 11:56 PM
vince turned the program around, put texas on a new level of confidence and power
Spursfan092120
11-26-2009, 01:17 AM
vince turned the program around, put texas on a new level of confidence and power
chode_regulator
11-26-2009, 01:59 AM
Just wondering would he still be considered the greatest player in Texas history if colt wins a national title.
ehhhh....that was the whole point of this thread. did you bother to read before posting?
To the dude who quoted the CJ stats and VY stats...CJ put up those numbers while Collins was the starter and they were still getting the shit beat out of them. Including a near 60 pt ball stomper. OBVIOUSLY somehting has changed and since the only personnel change has been qb...
Also you never hear "XXX RB has led his team to XXX amount of wins" no matter how many yards or TD's in a game. QB's win games, for better or worse, so that's how Vince is getting measured. The dude has a fucking 8 game win streak and is a 2 to 1 winner in the nfl. not shabby.
Colt will probably never exceed Vince for the exact reason already stated, Vince turned the program around. Colt is not THE guy on the team.
Whisky Dog
11-26-2009, 11:40 AM
Vince is DRob - the guy who brought the program into power.
Colt is Duncan - The guy who came along in the wake of success and continued to improve it.
Not a perfect analogy, I know Timmy has 4 titles and 2 without Rob, but you get the point. We want both to succeed in the NFL.
tlongII
11-26-2009, 12:14 PM
Sean Canfield should go pretty high in the NFL draft. Dude is 6-4 and has a great arm. He's 2nd in the nation (behind Colt) in completion percentage as well.
LOL texans
11-26-2009, 12:49 PM
It pretty much means a fan that hugs nuts....
I'll give you an example.
how many times do you say that a guy that threw for 125 "had a great day" and is "leading this team to a victory"?
At least he included CJ foing for 200 in his footnotes.
At first I thought I was just your Longhorn Hate & Jealousy that was the source of your stupid posts, but Im really starting to think that you just don't understand the game of football.
LOL texans
11-26-2009, 01:02 PM
As an outside observer, it is almost sad to see Colt not getting his full due from a good majority of VY lovers. I really do think VY would have proven just what he is proving in the pros if he had stayed - he's an amazing talent that is a head case and gets injured and disappears in the face of adversity.
Colt has already proven to be the winningest QB ever but unless he wins the BCS, he will always just be the next Major or Chrissy.
Actually people love Colt. Longhorn fans love just about all their players not named Chris Simms.
And as far as Colts NFL prospects go, he does have adequate height and is a legit 6-2. Seen him in real life. Easily taller than 6-0. Where he is small, in NFL terms, is frame wise. He's got all the tools, especially the mental aspect of the position. He doesn't have a big arm like a Cuntler or a Favre, but he definetly has a stonger arm than a Pennington.
I don't think he gets picked high, which is a good thing. I hope he goes to a team with a veteran QB at the end of his career and gets to sit for a season or two.
Kermit
11-26-2009, 10:51 PM
Actually people love Colt. Longhorn fans love just about all their players not named Chris Simms.
And as far as Colts NFL prospects go, he does have adequate height and is a legit 6-2. Seen him in real life. Easily taller than 6-0. Where he is small, in NFL terms, is frame wise. He's got all the tools, especially the mental aspect of the position. He doesn't have a big arm like a Cuntler or a Favre, but he definetly has a stonger arm than a Pennington.
I don't think he gets picked high, which is a good thing. I hope he goes to a team with a veteran QB at the end of his career and gets to sit for a season or two.
I think I'm the only Simms fan alive.
pkbpkb81
11-26-2009, 11:35 PM
I think I'm the only Simms fan alive.
not ture when simms was at ut I was a big fan of his
And as far as Colts NFL prospects go, he does have adequate height and is a legit 6-2. Seen him in real life. Easily taller than 6-0. Where he is small, in NFL terms, is frame wise. He's got all the tools, especially the mental aspect of the position. He doesn't have a big arm like a Cuntler or a Favre, but he definetly has a stonger arm than a Pennington.
He can definitely play in the NFL. Pennington is a mega weak comparison for McCoy. Personally I think he'll be more like Jake Plummer. His frame is a little small for his height but he's become a tough sob the past two years. I think he can get cut and have a productive pro career.
He's not even close to getting the DNA bitchslap the way Applewhite did. Dude pretty much knew he would've gotten murdered in the NFL. I think to this day that if he had the body to survive the NFL, he could've be on Manning's level. Manning's obviously ass tons better now but on the right team who knows what Major could've done.
Blake
11-27-2009, 02:54 AM
I think I'm the only Simms fan alive.
you're Phil?
Blake
11-27-2009, 03:02 AM
He needs to ace the combine, IMO.
I would agree that he needs a good combine......moreso than a good Wunderlich test.
Blake
11-27-2009, 03:07 AM
At first I thought I was just your Longhorn Hate & Jealousy that was the source of your stupid posts, but Im really starting to think that you just don't understand the game of football.
I'm really starting to think you don't know when you nut hug.
stretch
11-28-2009, 10:50 AM
i tend to agree but come on colt mccoy has flawless technique
and "pro style" offense really doesnt mean anything, if you mean he doesnt use the 5 step drop then youre right
hes small with poor arm strength, but talking about technique and "pro style" offenses is just wrong
yup, i hate the whole "pro-style offense" nonsense
if you have good footwork, good throwing mechanics, and an ability to read defenses, you will be fine. mccoy has all three to me.
LOL texans
11-28-2009, 11:09 AM
I'm really starting to think you don't know when you nut hug.
:lol
The debate whether I nut hug or not has nothing to do with the fact that you don't understand football blake.
Spursfan092120
11-28-2009, 11:18 AM
The debate whether I nut hug or not has nothing to do with the fact that you don't understand football blake.
Blake
11-28-2009, 01:26 PM
:lol
The debate whether I nut hug or not has nothing to do with the fact that you don't understand football blake.
there's really no debate as to how you and 90210 hug nuts.
why don't you explain the game of football and how it works.
Blake
11-28-2009, 01:27 PM
now I'm hugging LOL Texans nuts
Spursfan092120
11-28-2009, 01:43 PM
I fail so much that I have to try to make others look bad to take the attention away from me.
Spursfan092120
11-28-2009, 01:46 PM
I'm really starting to think you don't know when you nut hug.
So let me get this straight. Saying that the winningest QB in NCAA history, with the best accuracy in NCAA history could have a successful NFL career is nuthugging? Sounds like when you said we were nuthugging when we said Vince was playing well at 4-0. It's sad that you hate UT so much that you're blinded.
CubanSucks
11-28-2009, 04:09 PM
If he gets a title, he'll be the greatest college QB ever. Stats don't lie. Most wins EVER, best % EVER, GREAT rushing stats to go along, and then a championship? Done deal
Spursfan092120
11-28-2009, 04:30 PM
If he gets a title, he'll be the greatest college QB ever. Stats don't lie. Most wins EVER, best % EVER, GREAT rushing stats to go along, and then a championship? Done deal
Cant_Be_Faded
11-28-2009, 05:18 PM
I am about to lay down the hammer on this nuthugging shit.
not in my house i saidd
this is a family forum.
whottt
11-30-2009, 07:32 AM
IMHO...
If I had them on the same team I would play them like this:
Vince: 15 mins a game(1st and 4th quarters)
Colt: 15 mins a game(2nd and 3rd quarters)
Total: 30 mins a game(1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th quarters)
Or I might do it like this:
Vince: 15 mins a game(1st and 3rd downs)
Cole: 15 mins a game(2nd and 4th downs)
Total: 30 mins a game(1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th downs)
The minutes wouldn't break exactly right but you could manage the clock to make it more or less pretty much like that. :tu
Anyway,
Vince is more talented physically but Colt is a pretty complete QB. Colt was better his first year than Vince was.
Vince however had arguably the greatest season by college QB in 2005. And as the mookie crew pointed out, he won a National Title pretty much all by himself. Against a bad ass team too.
Still, Colt only had 1 truly bad season, his second. His first year he got hurt, and last year it wasn't his fault they lost to Tech. Colt's got been real good from day 1. Joe Montana couldn't throw it 60 yards either, and he threw more 5 yard passes than any QB in NFL history, and he threw them well. Joe needed no running game to win a superbowl with his lateral short passing game.
It's interesting listening to mookie and cbf talk about Vince making the Horns mean something again though...when I was a kid I didn't really remember them winning a title but they still meant something. Then Fred Akers sucked ass, and so did Mcwilliams and Mackovic. Ugh. I remember one year late in Royal's career, the only thing that stopped them from winning a championship was Joe Montana.
Blake
11-30-2009, 11:32 AM
So let me get this straight. Saying that the winningest QB in NCAA history, with the best accuracy in NCAA history could have a successful NFL career is nuthugging?
no if you ever said that, I never called you a nuthugger for it......
but it's really no surprise your illiteracy keeps you from getting it straight yet again.
Sounds like when you said we were nuthugging when we said Vince was playing well at 4-0. It's sad that you hate UT so much that you're blinded.
when was Vince playing great at 4-0? You said it was after his 125 yard passing performance. Did he also play great after his 116 yard performance?
It's sad that you are so far up Vince's crack that you are blinded.
No worries though. Vince played like an MVP yesterday, so you have a right to hug after that performance. That was incredible.
Blake
11-30-2009, 11:33 AM
I am about to lay down the hammer on this nuthugging shit.
not in my house i saidd
this is a family forum.
is it ok to say "nuthugging shit" in a family forum?
Blake
11-30-2009, 11:36 AM
If he gets a title, he'll be the greatest college QB ever. Stats don't lie. Most wins EVER, best % EVER, GREAT rushing stats to go along, and then a championship? Done deal
Not if Colt doesn't win the Heisman.....especially if Tebow somehow wins it again.
Spursfan092120
11-30-2009, 11:43 AM
Not if Colt doesn't win the Heisman.....especially if Tebow somehow wins it again.
The Heisman trophy does not decide the best NCAA QB ever..that's just another garbage way for you to have something to hold on to. "At least Colt didn't get the Heisman." You know the Heisman trophy doesn't go to the best player that year...it goes to whoever the media wants it to go to....I thought you at least knew something about college football.
Blake
11-30-2009, 12:20 PM
The Heisman trophy does not decide the best NCAA QB ever..that's just another garbage way for you to have something to hold on to. "At least Colt didn't get the Heisman." You know the Heisman trophy doesn't go to the best player that year...it goes to whoever the media wants it to go to....I thought you at least knew something about college football.
wow.....I have to re-read this.
Blake
11-30-2009, 12:20 PM
The Heisman trophy does not decide the best NCAA QB ever..that's just another garbage way for you to have something to hold on to. "At least Colt didn't get the Heisman." You know the Heisman trophy doesn't go to the best player that year...it goes to whoever the media wants it to go to....I thought you at least knew something about college football.
yup. still just as funny the second time. NH in it's purest form.
Who do you think is the best player this year and why wouldn't the media want Colt to win the Heisman?
TFloss32
11-30-2009, 06:37 PM
It would be a disgrace if Colt lost the Heisman again (especially after his video game statistics against Texas A&M). His production is actualy better at this point in the year, than it was last year.
He's averaged 358 yards at 72% and a tad less than 4 TDs a game (for his last 5 games). :wow
DisgruntledLionFan#54,927
11-30-2009, 06:52 PM
Gerhart has made a nice push of late and he's clearly Stanford's only hope on offense.
I'm fine with either winning it, but if they don't finish 1-2 it will be a pretty pathetic job done by the voters.
Spursfan092120
11-30-2009, 07:09 PM
yup. still just as funny the second time. NH in it's purest form.
Who do you think is the best player this year and why wouldn't the media want Colt to win the Heisman?
I'm not saying they wouldn't. I think he's going to be the runaway winner this year. I think he should have won it last year. I thought you said I didn't nuthug on Colt McCoy? hmm...you know what? Fuck that..dude's the best NCAA QB in history...best accuracy, most wins...what the fuck else do you want? He gets a ring this year, he's the best..if that's nuthugging, then fine..I'm nuthugging.
Spursfan092120
11-30-2009, 07:11 PM
if they don't finish 1-2 it will be a pretty pathetic job done by the voters.
Yeah..I think Gerhardt has earned at least second. I thought Case Keenum had a shot earlier in the year, but he fell a bit, but no way he was gonna get the Heisman...he could have cured cancer and thrown for 6000 yards and still been turned down.
Blake
12-01-2009, 03:09 PM
I'm not saying they wouldn't. I think he's going to be the runaway winner this year. I think he should have won it last year. I thought you said I didn't nuthug on Colt McCoy?
I don't recall ever saying you didn't also nuthug on Colt.
hmm...you know what? Fuck that..dude's the best NCAA QB in history...best accuracy, most wins...what the fuck else do you want? He gets a ring this year, he's the best..if that's nuthugging, then fine..I'm nuthugging.
Apparently you nuthug so i don't know where or why I would ever say you don't.
Good for you that you finally accept that you do. I bet it's a load off your shoulders.
Of course, what that also does is pretty much throw any opinion you have now and in the future of him right out the window........but at least you can sleep better tonite.
Blake
12-01-2009, 03:11 PM
Yeah..I think Gerhardt has earned at least second. I thought Case Keenum had a shot earlier in the year, but he fell a bit, but no way he was gonna get the Heisman...he could have cured cancer and thrown for 6000 yards and still been turned down.
Keenum has the system knock against him. He probably wasn't going to win any way.
colt could be the next fran tarkenton.
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