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Cry Havoc
11-26-2009, 01:18 PM
http://www.motherboard.tv/2009/11/25/this-computer-gave-birth-to-the-internet

The best part: It's still more easily upgradable than a Mac. :lmao

koriwhat
11-26-2009, 03:31 PM
you keep on reaching...

MiamiHeat
11-26-2009, 03:32 PM
Really, this guy needs to give up.

Give the computer to the Smithsonian, that's where it belongs.

UCLA could construct a duplicate, and just display that there on their campus.

velik_m
11-26-2009, 03:47 PM
Wouldn't you need more than one computer to give birth to something like internet? In fact wouldn't you need more than one "net" of computers?

Cry Havoc
11-26-2009, 05:02 PM
you keep on reaching...

The best part is that I'm so serious. :lol

phyzik
11-26-2009, 08:48 PM
One of my favorite articles from 2007, near the time the Mac ad campaign first started.

Again, its from 2007, alot has changed, but alot is still relevant.

http://www.pcauthority.com.au/Feature/92605,32-reasons-why-pcs-are-better-than-macs.aspx

Apple’s ads may be funny, but they’re woefully inaccurate. Here we reveal dozens of reasons why the PC outclasses the Mac.
"Advertising is the modern substitute for argument; its function is to make the worse appear the better.” So claimed Spanish philosopher, George Santayana, long before Steve Jobs was even an Apple in his mother’s eye. But Santayana’s prophetic sound bite perfectly describes Apple’s omnipresent “I’m a PC, I’m a Mac” campaign.

For the benefit of those readers who’ve been droving in the Dandenongs for the last few months, the campaign portrays the PC as a crash-prone, virus-ridden, boring, office workhorse. A stereotype that’s so 1995, we’re amazed. How has the victim of these laughable slurs reacted? Aside from a few catty comments from Bill Gates, the world’s richest company – a corporation renowned for bullying its competitors – has meekly rolled with the punches. So, in light of Microsoft’s total lack of response, PC Authority has stepped in to defend the Windows corner. We’ve got 32 solid reasons why the PC is better than the Mac, ranging from the over-inflated price tag on Apple’s hardware to the under-valued ability to build your own PC from scratch. And we demolish the vast majority of the spurious claims made by Apple’s ad gurus in the process.

Of course, PC Authority isn’t immune to the Mac’s charms. Recently, we found that an Apple computer was one of the fastest systems we’d ever tested. So to prove we’re not PC bigots, we’ve invited our colleagues from MacUser magazine to offer ten reasons why the Mac is superior. Following this feature, we’ve also provided an in-depth guide to running Windows on a Mac, allowing you to reap the benefits of both platforms.

1 - Service packs don’t cost $199
Since Mac OS X was launched in 2001, there have been four “new versions” of the operating system – Puma, Jaguar, Panther and Tiger – with a fifth, Leopard, due imminently. That’s almost one a year, each costing a princely $199 – racking up a total bill of close to $1000 for anyone who’s bought every version. And they say Windows is expensive.

Apple has effectively introduced the first subscription operating system, and has somehow gotten away with it. If Microsoft had done likewise, Bill Gates would have been before the anti-competition courts quicker than you could say, “isn’t $199 a bit steep for a service pack?”. The Mac zealots claim that each new cat really is a new operating system, but that argument doesn’t bear scrutiny. Take Panther (Mac OS X 10.3): the Apple press release hails “more than 150 breakthrough new features”, the pick of which are a new “Finder”, a way to see all your open windows at once, and bundled video-messaging software. God knows how insignificant the other 147 were.

2 - No price premium for flashy design
There still isn’t a PC maker on the planet that can hold a candle to Apple when it comes to product design. But not everyone wants or needs a computer that looks like it fell off the back of a Bang & Olufsen lorry. Macs routinely cost more than their PC equivalents. The cheapest Mac you can buy, the Mac mini, costs $949 and comes with a piddling 60GB hard disk, a meagre 512MB of RAM and no screen. Pop over to Dell, and that same $949 will buy you a Dimension E520 Vista PC with a 160GB hard disk, 1GB of RAM and a 19in flat panel display. Dell’s cheapest system costs just $898 at the time of writing. We’re not expecting Dell’s bargain-basement models to trouble our A List anytime soon, and Kate Moss wouldn’t be seen dead near one, but they’ll suffice for a cheap office PC that sits under a desk all day or a computer for the kids’ homework. Mac buyers simply don’t have that choice.

3 - Thousands of decent games
“I was designed for the home,” scream the Mac ads. You were? Then how come you’ve got such a poor bunch of games? At the time of writing, the top-selling Mac games on Amazon.com were World of Warcraft (yawn), Crazy Machines: The Wacky Contraptions Game (What the?!) and The Sims II – a two-year-old title designed for loners who need imaginary friends to compensate for the lack of actual people in their pitiful lives. Want the adrenaline-filled 3D action and spectacular graphics of Rainbow Six: Vegas? Or, a spin round the track at high-velocity in a beautifully rendered Porsche in Test Drive Unlimited? Want to revisit a seminal classic such as Half-Life 2? Sorry, you can’t. Computer says no. That’s not to mention the fact that the PC has a near-monopoly on all the decent graphics hardware. And even if you did want to upgrade your Mac’s graphics, you probably couldn’t anyway. “Nvidia graphics options for Apple desktops and notebooks can only be purchased through Apple or as Apple update kits,” warns Nvidia’s website. If you’re even halfway serious about gaming, you need a PC.

4 - Two mouse buttons
Yes, we know Macs are meant to be so simple your Grandma could partition the hard disk while solving the Countdown conundrum, but do they really need to be dumbed down to use only one mouse button? A monkey with Attention Deficit Disorder could master two buttons, but Apple’s (seemingly not ironically named) Mighty Mouse resorts to a single mouse click by default. Yes, you can easily tweak the driver for two buttons or simply plug in a normal mouse, but a firing squad is too lenient for the imbecile who decided that pressing Ctrl and left-click was a better out-of-the-box solution than a single press of the right button.

5 - Broadband just works
It’s hardly their fault, but our poor Mac friends aren’t always well served by the ISPs. Broadband modems can fail to work properly on Macs (especially with Bigpond cable), and when customers attempt to phone the tech-support lines for assistance, they’re none too amused when the script-reading person at the other end tells them to “click on the Start button and select Control Panel”. Finding a reliable ISP is hard enough; finding one that also supports Macs is a headache you really don’t need.

6 - Custom-made systems
Gaming PCs, video workstations, media centres, digital photo PCs, build-your-own, mini-chassis, midi-towers, business PCs… need we go on? There are dozens of different desktop PC configurations that can be fine-tailored with thousands of specialist components to meet a buyer’s requirements. How many flavours do Mac desktops come in? Three. Mac mini, iMac and Mac Pro. If none of those meets your needs, take a hike.

The open architecture of the PC platform, on the other hand, gives you access to an immense range of configurations, enabling you to tailor a PC to your needs without wasting money on capabilities you won’t use. It also means you can make modular upgrades, such as fitting a new CPU and motherboard without having to replace your existing graphics card and hard drives. Try that with an iMac.

7 - Macs are months behind
If you want cutting-edge hardware, you need a PC. Remember when the Intel Core CPU was released? Apple finally jumped ship from IBM processors, even though PC processors had been outstripping the PowerPC G5 CPU for years. But even though the agreement was trumpeted from the rooftops by Intel and Apple, it still took months for the complete Mac range to go fully Intel. Core 2 was even worse, with almost the whole PC market having them before Apple shipped a single Core 2 Mac. The same is true of almost all new technology. Not only is there no option to buy a desktop or laptop Mac with an internal HD DVD or Blu-ray drive, you can’t buy an internal Mac-compatible one at all. The same is again true of graphics: while the PC has up-to-the-minute 3D video hardware, Macs are an entire generation behind. And while PC users have had super-fast draft 802.11n wireless for nearly two years, Apple users have only just acquired it.

8 - Life beyond 1st January
It isn’t only children’s sticky fingers that will take the gloss off the shiny new MacBook you got for Christmas – the new line-up of laptops announced at the annual MacWorld show every January will leave your cutting-edge gift looking so last year, almost immediately. Yes, consumer-friendly, cuddly-wuddly Apple decides to spring new products onto its customers just days after the peak buying period every single year, and there’s little point in trying to second-guess what the company is about to launch, because it cloaks its announcements with an iron curtain the USSR would have been proud of. Thankfully, there’s no such post-Christmas Microsoft jamboree.

9 - Superior search facilities
Our counterparts over at MacUser swear blind that the Macintosh Finder is just as good as Windows Explorer. Yet even after five major releases of Mac OS X, it lacks many features that Windows power users take for granted, such as resizing windows from any corner or edge, using cut and paste to move files around, and renaming files from within a file requester. It doesn’t even offer a working “maximise window” button. If you just want a computer that looks pretty then the Finder might suit you, but if you actually want to manipulate files then Windows Explorer wins hands down.

10 - Safety in numbers
While having one company controlling both the hardware and operating system undoubtedly has its advantages, it also leaves Mac fans with all their eggs in one titanium-clad basket. Apple could, for example, decide to drop Mac OS X at any time – not entirely out of the question now that Intel-based Macs are perfectly capable of running Windows. What would happen to Mac OS devotees and developers then? It also leaves Apple remarkably vulnerable when innovations go wrong – the ill-fated Cube placed the company in deep trouble, for example, whereas international giants such as HP and Sony can tinker with experimental form factors such as smart displays and UMPCs, without worrying that commercial failure could potentially cripple the company.

11 - Sensible support costs
Macs never crash or go wrong, obviously. Which is just as well, because the standard Apple technical support offering is nothing short of scandalous. You could pay $25,664 for an absolute top-of-the-range Mac Pro or $949 for a Mac mini, and you’re still lumbered with Apple’s standard warranty, which comprises a pitiful 90-days, telephone support and just one year’s return-to-base hardware warranty. You can, naturally, pay extra for Apple’s three-year protection plan, which costs $229 for Mac minis, right through to a ridiculous $419 for the MacBook Pro. By comparison, our A-Listed Dell Latitude ultraportable laptop and Dell Optiplex desktop PC both include three-year, on-site warranties as standard.

It isn’t only manufacturer repairs you have to worry about. Take your PC down to your local computer shop and, chances are, they could replace the hard disk or slot in extra RAM without batting an eyelid, with little in the way of labour costs. That same repair shop may well blanche at the prospect of prizing open the sealed iMac casing, however.

12 - Microsoft’s on your team
Microsoft may be the company everyone loves to hate, and it doesn’t always play by the Queensbury Rules, but if there’s going to be a domineering, cash-rich mega-corporation in the industry, you definitely want it to be on your team. The PC is, of course, Microsoft’s platform of choice, and so the Windows market is the first to benefit from ground-breaking new products such as Office 2007. Mac owners will have to wait until later this year for a new version of Office, and even then it will be largely devoid of the well-received Ribbon interface that Microsoft first introduced into the PC version in January.

Similarly, PC owners with an Xbox 360 nestled under their television can turn their console into a Media Center Extender, allowing them to play music, video or photos stored on their computer through their television – all because Microsoft has its fat fingers in so many pies.

13 - Black’s still the new black
A veteran IT journalist, who shall remain nameless, was rather taken aback when a fellow commuter plonked down his spanking new black MacBook, before sneering at our man’s slightly weathered, older white model. The other Mac owner was clearly a first-rate pillock, but it does highlight the problem of your IT equipment becoming a fashion accessory. PC owners are rarely subject to such style snobbery – we’ve never heard of anyone being publicly lampooned for sporting last season’s VAIO, for instance.

14 - The CD-ROM has an eject button
Want to take the DVD out of your Mac’s disc drive before it shuts down? Go on then, press the eject button. Hang about, there’s no effing button on the disc drive! No, it’s far more sensible to put the eject button on the keyboard and rely on the operating system to spit out your disc. And what happens on those occasions when the Mac refuses to open the disc drawer? “If you can’t get it to eject, then just hold down the mouse button next time you reboot,” says one of our MacUser colleagues. Brilliant.

15 - No confusing version numbers
Here are the operating system requirements for Apple’s iLife 06 suite: “Mac OS X v10.3.9 or v10.4.3 or later; v10.4.4 recommended.” Aperture, meanwhile demands “Mac OS X v10.4.7 (or later)”; while Logic Express 7 recommends “Mac OS X v10.4.3 or later for PowerPC-based systems; Mac OS X v10.4.4 or later for Intel-based systems.” And yet Apple’s website proudly proclaims, “there is only one version of Mac OS X”. Come again? Even the most complicated Windows system requirements will only specify a service pack, and considering they’re only released once every few years, that’s hardly likely to confuse your Dad when he’s browsing the software shelves in Harvey Norman.

16 - What the hell was that?
If you’ve been sitting on a train recently and heard an unholy BLAAAANG sound, the reason is simple: there was a Mac owner somewhere in the carriage. For, in Apple’s infinite wisdom, it decided that a simple PC-like “beep” from the hardware to indicate the successful start of the boot process wasn’t annoying enough. Instead, it substituted the most appalling metallic clanging noise you’ve ever heard. And you can’t turn it off unless you mute the whole machine before you shut it down. Classy.

17 - Cheap OEM versions
Although, strictly, it breaches Microsoft’s licensing terms and conditions, in practice there’s little to stop experienced PC owners buying the vastly discounted OEM versions of Windows. www.engit.com.au, for example, is selling Vista Home Premium OEM for $150.40, which makes it more than $48.60 cheaper than the latest version of Mac OS X. OEM versions come without the retail packaging and don’t include support from Microsoft, but for the average PC Authority reader, that won’t cause too much distress.

18 - Far better media capability
Media-centre PCs have come on leaps and bounds over the past year or so, with a selection of attractive units that won’t look horribly out of place underneath the svelte 32in LCD screen in the lounge, nor make a noise like a 747 preparing for take-off. Windows Media Center is now built into Vista Home Premium and Ultimate, and turns your PC into a very effective personal video recorder, with its excellent onscreen television guide and the option to record all the episodes in a series. Apple’s Front Row, on the other hand, doesn’t offer any television features – in fact, it’s little more than a flashy front end for its iTunes software.

19 - IT support expertise
When it comes to the workplace, Windows is the predominant OS by a mile. And while its vagaries may drive IT departments up the wall, there’s an army of support professionals out there with vast experience of making it work. Switch platforms, however, and you can kiss all that goodbye: experienced Mac OS systems engineers are like gold dust. Couple the PC’s comparative ease of support with the fact that almost all business apps are either cross-platform or Windows-only, and you don’t need an MBA to spot the smart investment.

20 - Not so insecure
Apple makes a great fuss about the Mac’s supposed immunity to viruses, and it’s true that the platform has historically been less vulnerable to virus attack than the PC. However, to suggest, as it does, that your PC is at risk from more than 100,000 viruses, is ludicrous. Make sure your Windows XP or Vista system is up to date, get a decent virus checker (such as the free AVG Antivirus package or the A-Listed F-Secure 2007 suite) and we sincerely doubt you’ll be troubled by one virus a year, let alone 100,000.

21 - Copious amount of freeware
One of the advantages of Windows’ long tenure at the top is the vast quantity of freely downloadable software now available. To be sure, there’s an active Mac shareware community as well, but the numbers speak for themselves: the download.com file repository lists more than 55,000 packages of freeware and shareware for Windows, compared to just 4,586 for the Mac. Which library would you rather have access to?

22 - What is it with Steve Jobs?
Has there ever been such a self-serving, egotistical, irritating man as Apple CEO, Steve Jobs? Yes, he brilliantly rescued the company from the doldrums in the late-1990s, but boy, he doesn’t half bang on about it. Then there are the Jobs sermons from the mount: earlier this year, for example, he decided to upbraid the music industry for its addiction to DRM with a public statement on Apple’s website, which was lapped up by a mass media that hangs on his every word. This, despite the fact that Apple has successfully locked people into the iPod upgrade cycle by applying its own proprietary DRM – but did anyone get to question the great man on this? Of course not, he doesn’t do tough interviews. He continually makes bold claims about his own products, and attacks others, without any basis.

The PC camp, meanwhile, has the fine, upstanding role models of Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer. Need we say more?

23 - The menu is where?
For an interface that’s supposed to be intuitive, design-led and superior to Windows, Mac OS has some pretty odd quirks. One of the most annoying is that the menu bar for any given application isn’t actually attached to the app itself: it sits at the top of the screen in one of the most bizarre forms of conceptual detachment we’ve seen in a long time.

24 - Full selection of peripherals
Macs are shut out from a wide range of products and services, from Windows-only home security kits to music download stores and MP3 players – including the Creative Zen Vision:M. Even relatively simple peripherals, such as the handy U3 memory sticks, are persona non grata on Mac OS X.

continued on next post..............

phyzik
11-26-2009, 08:49 PM
double post for some reason...

phyzik
11-26-2009, 08:49 PM
25 - Build your own computer
Macs are like Happy Meals: there’s a shiny menu to choose from, but very little real variety on offer. The open architecture of the PC platform, on the other hand, means you can build your own PC from the ground up (or pay someone to do it for you). With your own choice of case, CPU, monitor and other components, you might even end up with a system designed for your personal workspace, rather than for a penthouse condo on the expensive side of town.

26 - The apps don’t crash
We’re not denying that Mac OS X is a stable operating system with its Unix underpinnings. But a stable operating system doesn’t make a stable overall computing experience, which you’ll soon discover if you use Mac OS X as your day-to-day system. The OS is stable; lots of the applications (especially those not designed by Apple) aren’t. Random crashes, hangs and programs quitting for no apparent reason are, in our experience, far more common on the Mac than PC. And it often takes a restart to get the errant application to launch again.

27 - Tablets and touchscreens
We’re certainly not about to claim that tablet PCs have been a runaway success for Microsoft, but for certain purposes – medical, warehouse management, as an architectural tool – they’ve become an integral part of the business. Yet, while there’s been a tablet version of Windows since 2002, Apple stubbornly claims it isn’t interested in touchscreen technology on the PC. That’s a shame, because as HP’s IQ770 TouchSmart PC proves, touchscreen PC technology can certainly have its advantages in consumer applications, such as photo editing and web browsing. Indeed, if we were feeling bold, we could even predict that touchscreens will be an integral part of consumer PCs within the next decade.

28 - You don’t need as much RAM
From the very early days of Mac OS, Windows’ virtual memory has always been better implemented than the Mac’s. That means a PC that’s low on memory might be slow, but it won’t be any less reliable. A Mac with low memory has a terrible tendency to fall over in a stiff breeze, which widens the price gap between comparable Mac and PC specifications even more.

29 - A Mac’s delete key doesn’t delete
No, really! Click on a file in Mac OS X’s equivalent of Windows Explorer. Now, press the delete key. Nothing will happen. A logical, intuitive OS? Is it hell. What you have to do is press the Apple and backspace keys together, or drag the file to the trash can. What a big fat load of rubbish!

30 - Apple doesn’t like tinkering
Mac users like to boast about how, rather than a traditional BIOS, they have something known as EFI (extensible firmware interface). All very well, but if you actually try to get into the EFI setup to tweak your hardware, you’ll find it’s damn near-impossible. Not so with a PC: just reboot, hit the delete key when prompted, and you’ll have low-level access to your hardware. Tweak it for maximum speed or maximum stability, the choice is yours.

31 - PCs are greener
Apple is currently bottom of the pile in Greenpeace’s Green Electronics Guide rankings. Greenpeace claims the company “scores badly on almost all criteria”, including the use of hazardous chemicals, product take back and recycling.

32 - Best for beginners
For years, Apple has been peddling the myth that Macs are better suited to computing novices, without any independent evidence to back up its claims. In our experience, it doesn’t matter whether you sit a computing beginner in front of a PC or a Mac, they’ll be equally at home or perplexed. And when they do need help, there are ten times more Windows users than Macolytes to lend them a helping hand. Windows even includes a Remote Assistance tool, so you can take control of their computer, without having to trek across to their house when they accidentally delete their printer driver.




In the interests of balance, we asked Nik Rawlinson, editor of MacUser, to leap to Apple’s defence.

1 - Cheaper in the long run
The oldest Macs that can run Apple’s latest operating system have just celebrated their eighth birthday, yet all but a handful of the oldest Vista-ready PCs were still just kit and components this time last year. Macs are often criticised for being overpriced, but when you spread the cost over their respective working lives, the Mac comes out cheaper than a PC.

2 - Greater stability
Macs do crash, and anyone who tells you they don’t is a liar, but the tightly controlled Unix-based operating system is far more capable when it comes to isolating and terminating problematic applications than Windows. PCs come from the baby-and-bathwater school of conflict management and throw out the whole lot – data, app and OS – in exchange for a garish blue screen and a forced reboot.

3 - Mac Office is better
The very first version of Office was out a year before the PC, and it continues to innovate under Mac OS X, with many features appearing on Apple hardware first. Plus, the operating system’s built-in support for creating PDFs means Mac users have been rolling out their spreadsheets as Acrobat files for more than half a decade, while Windows workers have only just been granted that feature with Office 2007 (and even then, it’s an optional download).

4 - More secure
For one thing the operating system is built on a Unix core, with all the restricted and tiered permissions management that affords. For another, the fact it has a smaller user base than Windows counts in its favour, since for the last 20 years hackers and script kiddies have largely left it alone. Long may that continue.

5 - Triple booting
There are Mac-specific builds of several Linux distributions, but the real feather in the Mac’s cap is the fact you can run Windows, Linux and Mac OS X simultaneously, using virtualisation (see p34 for our guide to running Windows on a Mac). This is a world away from the lame emulation afforded PC users by Virtual PC, and it gives alternative operating systems direct access to the Apple hardware. So, while Windows can barely run three native applications at once, with a Mac you can run The GIMP under Red Hat, Keynote under OS X and Access under Windows on the same screen, at the same time.

6 - One company controls everything
The hardware and the operating system (and often the software too) are all made by a single company – Apple – and so they’re guaranteed to work well together. The OS is optimised for the computer line-up, the mouse and hardware are designed with the OS in mind, and the applications are tuned to take advantage of every tweak and innovation in both. Only a Mac can deliver a smooth, well-thought-out experience end-to-end, and only with a Mac do you know exactly where to go for help and support. With a PC you’ll be batted back and forth between Microsoft and whoever made your ugly beige box, as they spend the next month blaming each other for your problem.

7 - Macs are faster
PC Authority’s own Labs tests proved that the Mac Pro, the current top-end machine in Apple’s line up, was faster running Windows XP than any conventional PC at that time.

8 - Lively developer community
Use a Mac and you have access to the fruits of an incredibly vibrant developer community. The same is true of the PC, of course, but the PC shareware, freeware and donationware market is riddled with ugly, poorly designed, unconventional applications. Mac OS X has so many hooks and resources hidden under the surface that it’s one of the quickest platforms on which to develop, and as finished applications draw on Apple resources rather than being designed from scratch, they look as good as any other Mac app.

9 - Mods don’t rule
Nobody ever thought a Mac would look better with neon lighting and a glowing water cooling system. What does that say about Apple’s eye for design?

10 - Goodies use Macs, Baddies use PCs
Studies have shown that Hollywood has a tendency to make its baddies use PCs, and its heroes use Macs. Fact. That’s why Jack Bauer and his CTU colleagues on 24 solve major terrorist threats using machines built for OS X. And when Jeff Goldblum wanted to infect the Independence Day mothership with a virus to save the world from destruction, what did he use? A PowerBook 5300. Except, of course, you won’t find a virus on a Mac.

koriwhat
11-26-2009, 10:09 PM
The best part is that I'm so serious. :lol

seriously full of shit... yep.

duhoh
11-28-2009, 05:27 AM
bah why complain about >10% of the market?

Cry Havoc
11-28-2009, 01:28 PM
bah why complain about >10% of the market?

Not complaining. It's funny to watch them lose their cool (well, just one person really) when I say anything even remotely disparaging against Mac.

koriwhat
11-28-2009, 05:02 PM
Not complaining. It's funny to watch them lose their cool (well, just one person really) when I say anything even remotely disparaging against Mac.

vice-versa. it ain't a one way road.

winOS fuckin' blows! pos! blah blah blah..

Steel
12-08-2009, 08:49 PM
The article posted is kind of stupid. This article is more "woefully inaccurate" then the MAC ads. The author of this "32 reason" article I believe had Bill Gate's dick in their mouth at the time of writing this. This article would be like watching fox news to find out which is better, Republicans or Democrats. I for the most part use MACs at school, Linux for personal and home, and windows every where else. I prefer linux, then MACs, and if I must....I'll use windows. Use what works for you, but this article is stupid. This same website also has an article on why MACs are better then PCs. Oh, and don't forget, MS did come out with what many have voted as the worse OS of all times, Windows ME.

My prediction of the future: MS is going to lose a lot of the market and it has been over the last few years. I personally think Google is going to change a lot of things in the world of OSs.

baseline bum
12-08-2009, 09:08 PM
http://www.motherboard.tv/2009/11/25/this-computer-gave-birth-to-the-internet

The best part: It's still more easily upgradable than a Mac. :lmao

It's probably more stable than a Windows PC though.

slayermin
12-09-2009, 08:14 PM
I have a Mac and a I use a Microsoft two button mouse with track wheel. It works fine.

And though I would love to get the newest version of Mac OS, I haven't upgraded it in four years. I have never had any problems.

My mom has the new Windows 7 and so far so good. For her sake and all of you PC people, I hope it stays that way.