The Ultimate Fighter: Heavyweights Finale Free on Spike 12/5/09

[dbreiden83080]

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Gotta get these picks in fast, but this is a very good card.. Looking forward to it.. :toast


Main Card

Light Heavyweight bout: Matt Hamill vs. Jon Jones
Lightweight bout: Frank Edgar vs. Matt Veach

Preliminary Card

Light Heavyweight bout: Brian Stann vs. Rodney Wallace
Welterweight bout: John Howard vs. Dennis Hallman
Lightweight bout: Mark Bocek vs. Joe Brammer

Other announced matchups

Catchweight (215 lb) bout: Houston Alexander vs. Kimbo Slice
Heavyweight bout: Justin Wren vs. Jon Madsen
Heavyweight bout: Darrill Schoonover vs. James McSweeney
Heavyweight bout: Marcus Jones vs. Matt Mitrione
Heavyweight bout: Roy Nelson vs. Brendan Schaub, to win of Season 10 of The Ultimate Fighter.

[dbreiden83080]

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[desflood]

Light Heavyweight bout: Matt Hamill vs. Jon Jones
Lightweight bout: Frank Edgar vs. Matt Veach

Light Heavyweight bout: Brian Stann vs. Rodney Wallace
Welterweight bout: John Howard vs. Dennis Hallman
Lightweight bout: Mark Bocek vs. Joe Brammer

Catchweight (215 lb) bout: Houston Alexander vs. Kimbo Slice
Heavyweight bout: Justin Wren vs. Jon Madsen
Heavyweight bout: Darrill Schoonover vs. James McSweeney
Heavyweight bout: Marcus Jones vs. Matt Mitrione
Heavyweight bout: Roy Nelson vs. Brendan Schaub

[dbreiden83080]

I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE Matt Hammill but this is a tough one for him..

[Stringer_Bell]

Great card! I think it's one of the better line-ups of the year, mostly because we are invested in these guys as they've journeyed into the octagon.

Light Heavyweight bout: Matt Hamill vs. Jon Jones
Lightweight bout: Frank Edgar vs. Matt Veach

Catchweight (215 lb) bout: Houston Alexander vs. Kimbo Slice
- Hoping for a vicious, vicious fight and a 2nd round KO.
Heavyweight bout: Justin Wren vs. Jon Madsen
- I really think this can go either way, but I feel like Wren has more weapons.
Heavyweight bout: Darrill Schoonover vs. James McSweeney
- Darrill's got a lot of heart the way he moved with Marcus on the ground and took some good punches. I hate McSweeney and want him submitted in the 3rd.
Heavyweight bout: Marcus Jones vs. Matt Mitrione
- Matt is stronger than Brendan, so I don't think he'll be on the ground too long with Marcus. His punches will hurt Marcus, causing Marcus to retire for real this time.
Heavyweight bout: Roy Nelson vs. Brendan Schaub, to win of Season 10 of The Ultimate Fighter.
- Roy can take a punch, as well as sit on you. I hope he wins so Dana sees that there is more than 1 way to get a contract than just throwing punches to make it "exciting." Do it your way Roy!

[MannyIsGod]

Main Card

Light Heavyweight bout: Matt Hamill vs. Jon Jones
Lightweight bout: Frank Edgar vs. Matt Veach

Preliminary Card

Light Heavyweight bout: Brian Stann vs. Rodney Wallace
Welterweight bout: John Howard vs. Dennis Hallman
Lightweight bout: Mark Bocek vs. Joe Brammer

Other announced matchups

Catchweight (215 lb) bout: Houston Alexander vs. Kimbo Slice
Heavyweight bout: Justin Wren vs. Jon Madsen
Heavyweight bout: Darrill Schoonover vs. James McSweeney
Heavyweight bout: Marcus Jones vs. Matt Mitrione
Heavyweight bout: Roy Nelson vs. Brendan Schaub, to win of Season 10 of The Ultimate Fighter.

[CubanSucks]

If McSweeney loses again, it'll be a good night no matter what. :toast ...that fucking smushy face faggy piece of shit

[dbreiden83080]

If McSweeney loses again, it'll be a good night no matter what. :toast ...that fucking smushy face faggy piece of shit

Massive Douchebag. And i thought i hated Bisping back on TUF 3 holy hell, Mcsweeney is a fuckin joke.. These Brit MMA fighters sure are assholes.. :lol

[Rip-Hamilton32]

awesome card, can't wait to see Jonny "Bones" Jones fight

[ATRAIN]

Kimbo against Alexander.......guess they want them to stand and bang. Could be a good fight.

[Soul_Patch]

Im excited to see these fights.

Houston vs Kimbo is going to be pretty bad ass...i think Kimbo stands a good chance to get knocked the fuck out...Houston Alexander doesnt have much game, but has some H E A V Y hands.

I tried to like McSweeny. I loved him as a coach, i thought he kicked ass. I hated the fact he was such a jackass to that mohawked guy. I cant stand dickheads like that. To see him try and showboat to Roy was just hillarious. Roy took one look and destroyed him...i was rolling.

I dont like Roy either, but he can fight. I think he wouldnt stand much of a chance against any legitimate competition unfortunately. I guess i could be wrong.

[dbreiden83080]

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[ATRAIN]

Im excited to see these fights.

Houston vs Kimbo is going to be pretty bad ass...i think Kimbo stands a good chance to get knocked the fuck out...Houston Alexander doesnt have much game, but has some H E A V Y hands.

I tried to like McSweeny. I loved him as a coach, i thought he kicked ass. I hated the fact he was such a jackass to that mohawked guy. I cant stand dickheads like that. To see him try and showboat to Roy was just hillarious. Roy took one look and destroyed him...i was rolling.

I dont like Roy either, but he can fight. I think he wouldnt stand much of a chance against any legitimate competition unfortunately. I guess i could be wrong.

Yeah Kimbo vs Houston will be a brawl thats for sure. I hope it goes 3 rounds. I hope kimbo trains and is given more shots, I like the guy now.
Roy was my fav to win since day 1, he was just wayyy to experienced against these other guys.

[anakha]

Kimbo's arthritic knee + Alexander winning his last fight via leg kicks = very nervous Kimbo fans

[oligarchy]

Light Heavyweight bout: Matt Hamill vs. Jon Jones
Lightweight bout: Frank Edgar vs. Matt Veach

Light Heavyweight bout: Brian Stann vs. Rodney Wallace
Welterweight bout: John Howard vs. Dennis Hallman
Lightweight bout: Mark Bocek vs. Joe Brammer

Catchweight (215 lb) bout: Houston Alexander vs. Kimbo Slice
Heavyweight bout: Justin Wren vs. Jon Madsen
Heavyweight bout: Darrill Schoonover vs. James McSweeney
Heavyweight bout: Marcus Jones vs. Matt Mitrione
Heavyweight bout: Roy Nelson vs. Brendan Schaub

[dbreiden83080]

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[dbreiden83080]

Main Card

Light Heavyweight bout: Matt Hamill vs. Jon Jones

Probably go down hard on this card but i love my boy Matt, can't ever pick against him...

Other announced matchups
Catchweight (215 lb) bout: Houston Alexander vs. Kimbo Slice
Head says Kimbo loses but i'm rooting for him to get it done..

Heavyweight bout: Darrill Schoonover vs. James McSweeney
Taking 2 chances so i'm forcing myself to pick James, god i hate this fool..

Heavyweight bout: Marcus Jones vs. Matt Mitrione
Big Baby gonna beat down Mitrione, get em Big Baby.. 1st RD sub..

Heavyweight bout: Roy Nelson vs. Brendan Schaub Roy by Cucifix position yet again..:lol

[MannyIsGod]

Dude Mitrione has no desire to fight. He's there to pick up a check. This motherfuck would tap the moment round one started if he could. Fully expect that hand to be up and ready to top the moment he gets taken down.

Really hoping that the defense these guys put out goes way up from the finale till now because I really can't stand to see Roy Nelson win by another crucifix.

[dbreiden83080]

Dude Mitrione has no desire to fight. He's there to pick up a check.

And not much of a check. He'll get maybe 5 grand for this fight. This is the chance for TUF guys to make a statement and get bookings to PPV cards. Perform like shit and your UFC career will likely be over before it begins..

[CubanSucks]

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Brothers from other mothers. Except Beldar's head isn't lumpy like Houston's

[Rip-Hamilton32]

Bones
Houston
Roy
Marcus
Titties

[dbreiden83080]

Titties

:lmao

[djohn14]

Light Heavyweight bout: Matt Hamill vs. Jon Jones
Light Heavyweight bout: Brian Stann vs. Rodney Wallace
Welterweight bout: John Howard vs. Dennis Hallman
Catchweight (215 lb) bout: Houston Alexander vs. Kimbo Slice
Heavyweight bout: Roy Nelson vs. Brendan Schaub

[TheTruth]

Bones
Alexander
Titties
Marcus
Big Country

[dallaskd]

Matt Hamill vs. Jon Jones
Frank Edgar vs. Matt Veach
Brian Stann vs. Rodney Wallace
John Howard vs. Dennis Hallman
Mark Bocek vs. Joe Brammer
Houston Alexander vs. Kimbo Slice
Justin Wren vs. Jon Madsen
Titties vs. James McSweeney
Marcus Jones vs. Matt Mitrione
Roy Nelson vs. Brendan Schaub

[dallaskd]

Surely theyre only bringing Dennis Hallman back to fight Hughes..

[tsb2000]

Just hope that fuck McSweeney gets KO'ed. Other than that, I don't care who wins what.

[CubanSucks]

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lol at the guy to the left of Wes and the guy to the right of Marcus. Who the fuck are they again? Did they even fight cause I swear I saw them each like maybe twice on the whole season :lol

[polandprzem]

Main Card

Light Heavyweight bout: Matt Hamill vs. Jon Jones
Lightweight bout: Frank Edgar vs. Matt Veach

Preliminary Card

Light Heavyweight bout: Brian Stann vs. Rodney Wallace
Welterweight bout: John Howard vs. Dennis Hallman
Lightweight bout: Mark Bocek vs. Joe Brammer

Other announced matchups

Catchweight (215 lb) bout: Houston Alexander vs. Kimbo Slice
Heavyweight bout: Justin Wren vs. Jon Madsen
Heavyweight bout: Darrill Schoonover vs. James McSweeney
Heavyweight bout: Marcus Jones vs. Matt Mitrione
Heavyweight bout: Roy Nelson vs. Brendan Schaub, to win of Season 10 of The Ultimate Fighter.

[dbreiden83080]

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[Evan]

Matt Hamill vs. Jon Jones
Frank Edgar vs. Matt Veach
Brian Stann vs. Rodney Wallace
Houston Alexander vs. Kimbo Slice
Roy Nelson vs. Brendan Schaub

Kimbo slice is going to get his ass kicked ....this is going to be a murder.

[dallaskd]

Kimbo slice is going to get his ass kicked ....this is going to be a murder.

I was thinking Kimbo could have a shot, but then I just remembered what Seth did to him so I cant see it taking Houston much longer to do the same thing.

[dbreiden83080]

I was thinking Kimbo could have a shot, but then I just remembered what Seth did to him so I cant see it taking Houston much longer to do the same thing.


Matt Hamill vs. Jon Jones
Frank Edgar vs. Matt Veach
Brian Stann vs. Rodney Wallace
Houston Alexander vs. Kimbo Slice
Roy Nelson vs. Brendan Schaub

Kimbo slice is going to get his ass kicked ....this is going to be a murder.

I'm sure your both right. but i'm hoping he pulls it out..

[polandprzem]

catchweight 215 :rolleyes


Houston 208lbs
Kimbo 212lbs (with shorts and snickers)

[djohn14]

Dudes...Jon Jones....Your picking against Jon Jones...This is a mistake

[desflood]

Dudes...Jon Jones....Your picking against Jon Jones...This is a mistake
:lol

I know. Bless Matt Hamill, he's one of my favorites, but he's just too slow to beat Jones, and while his boxing is much improved it's nowhere near what it needs to be to compete at this level.

[dbreiden83080]

Dudes...Jon Jones....Your picking against Jon Jones...This is a mistake

my love for Hammill is why i am picking him..

[djohn14]

I admire Matt so much...God knows being a pro at anything while having a handicap would be so hard...But this is Jon Jones...And make no "Bones" about it, Hamill wont be fast/athletic enough tonight...."Bones"...see what i did there.

[dbreiden83080]

I admire Matt so much...God knows being a pro at anything while having a handicap would be so hard...But this is Jon Jones...And make no "Bones" about it, Hamill wont be fast/athletic enough tonight...."Bones"...see what i did there.

Jones is very green, he could get outwrestled tonight, we'll see. He's too early in his career to be predicting greatness even if he gets bye Hammill tonight..

[dbreiden83080]

:lol

I know. Bless Matt Hamill, he's one of my favorites, but he's just too slow to beat Jones, and while his boxing is much improved it's nowhere near what it needs to be to compete at this level.

Matt is a top flight fighter with his wrestling, chin and power he is just never going to be a champion. But the UFC would never cut him. I mean come on how do you ever cut that guy??

[dbreiden83080]

Weigh in video is up


http://www.ufc.com/

[Evan]

I'm sure your both right. but i'm hoping he pulls it out..

the UFC is in a perfect PR situation here.

I am sure Dana and everyone involved with kimbo has seen through the BS and this is a scheduled public execution. An average MMA fighter is going to end the Kimbo nonsense in highlight KO fashion.

But...should Houston get clipped then the UFC has themselves another PPV headliner.

The UFC wins no matter what happens tonight.

[TheTruth]

I'm super pumped about tonight. Bones and Hamill is gonna be a war.

[MannyIsGod]

Schaub has the wost nickname ever. The Hybrid? Gonna start calling this dude Prius.

[djohn14]

Jones is very green, he could get outwrestled tonight, we'll see. He's too early in his career to be predicting greatness even if he gets bye Hammill tonight..
Jones is a great wrestler...maybe not a Matt Hammill type...but a great wrestler never the less. I truely see Jon Jones dominating this fight.

[dbreiden83080]

Jones is a great wrestler...maybe not a Matt Hammill type...but a great wrestler never the less. I truely see Jon Jones dominating this fight.

i hope Matt wins because he is already 33, Jones has time..

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

Tonight is going to kick ass. A Spurs game and the TUF finale! :D

[djohn14]

i hope Matt wins because he is already 33, Jones has time..

Thats for damn sure...I really do like Matt...and your right, Jones has plenty of time....we shall just see....but my money is on Jon "Bones" Jones

[oligarchy]

Schaub has the wost nickname ever. The Hybrid? Gonna start calling this dude Prius.

You should call him some shitty hybrid though, too bad that they don't have separate models for the Nissan Altima Hybrid. Although that might work.

[dbreiden83080]

Thats for damn sure...I really do like Matt...and your right, Jones has plenty of time....we shall just see....but my money is on Jon "Bones" Jones

Djohn i am not really disagreeing with you about the fight, i said earlier i just can't pick against Matt but i know he is in for a rough fight either way..

[djohn14]

Djohn i am not really disagreeing with you about the fight, i said earlier i just can't pick against Matt but i know he is in for a rough fight either way..
I understand it bro...I cant pick against Cain...Evan cant pick against Cro Cop...We all have some fighters we just cant pick against.

[dbreiden83080]

9 o clock enjoy the fights guys... :toast

[dbreiden83080]

lets go Big BABY!!!

[dbreiden83080]

Fuck Big baby got KO'd... :bang

[BlackSwordsMan]

someone call me and tell me when kimbo is fighting

[MannyIsGod]

Wow Jones got hosed. Thats horrible.

[BlackSwordsMan]

damn bullshit call with hamil

[resistanze]

Hamil sounded like he was brain-dead, damn. Jones got fucked over.

[BlackSwordsMan]

fuck the roy nelson fight fuck this fat fuck
mw2 time

[oligarchy]

Steve Mazzagatti is the worst ref ever. What a bullshit fight.

What the fuck is up with the Slice fight? Hrmm.......

[oligarchy]

I heard it Manny.. Brendan "Prius" Schaub.

[resistanze]

Prius got knocked the FUCK OUT!

[MannyIsGod]

Prius involved in a front end collision and is out!

Damn!

LOL you know Dana is pisssssssssed.

[djohn14]

...........Go Jon Jones

[oligarchy]

Prius involved in a front end collision

:downspin:

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

this was the first season i watched every episode and i dont know why but i was going for Roy. that was awesome.

[anakha]

Roy deserves an account on Spurstalk.

From the entrance music to the 'kung fu fighter' bit, to the crucifat attempt, to the holyshitwheredidthatcomefrom KO, to the post-fight interview, that was the best troll job I've seen in years.

[anakha]

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[Stringer_Bell]

Hamil sounded like he was brain-dead, damn. Jones got fucked over.

Hamil is deaf, so his speech is impaired. I can't help but always cheer for him and his amazing heart, and he didn't give in when Jones absolutely wrecked him from the full mount. Jones is for real and I think whoever he gets next will be the same as if he would have won -- he fucked up and used a bad move after doing everything else right. Jones will be fine, so I hope no one holds it against Hamil.

I'm glad Big Baby can now retire so I never have to see his hypocrite face again. So much for ripping off someone's arm, he got knocked the fuck out. Again.

I liked the Houston vs Kimbo fight, dudes did what they could because they had to respect each other as KO artists. Kimbo's canned hams sounded nasty, surprised Houston didn't go to sleep although that was a good leg strategy which finally worked in the 3rd.

Big Country knocked Brendan's jaw crooked. Nice.

[oligarchy]

so I hope no one holds it against Hamil. you can't really hold it against him, but it was bullshit. The fight should have already been stopped. Of course, he could have kept fighting.



I liked the Houston vs Kimbo fight, dudes did what they could because they had to respect each other as KO artists. Kimbo's canned hams sounded nasty, surprised Houston didn't go to sleep although that was a good leg strategy which finally worked in the 3rd.
I wouldn't say a good fight. Why would the ultra-aggressive Houston suddenly become camera against Kimbo? He didn't even engage him, just circled and kicked at his leg. Something is NOT right with fight, and it's not "respect" between them.

[anakha]

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Roy Nelsowns

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FIGHT OF THE YEAR :lmao

[anakha]

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McSweeney going all Sagat on Titties

[dallaskd]

Kimbo is clutch.. too fucked up to give an educated opinion on the rest of the fights. going to the club.. peace

[polandprzem]

lets go Big BABY!!!


Fuck Big baby got KO'd... :bang

:lol

I'm sorry but those two post in a row made it funny for me

[The TroutBum]

Big baby sucks my rim, I'm glad he got ktfo AGAIN. McSweeny is a bitch ass trick, and I really wanted titties to whale on him. Oh well.

[Evan]

Hamil will be overturned I am sure...I don't think he even knew he won.

I was wrong about Slice...guy has more heart than I thought.

There is a couple good HW's to come out of this...I enjoyed the season. But I don't give a damn about Chuck vs Tito III....ugh...Dana did not look happy about it either. I bet Spike asked for this.

[dbreiden83080]

i don't know how you overturn the Hammill decison, when Jones threw 3 illegal shots in a row to break his nose. Mazzagatti was right to take a point away for once. Maybe make it a NC but you can't give him the win..

Kimbo came to fight i was impressed. Houston i don't know what the fuck that was. He was scared shitless to engage for most of the fight. The guy who KO'd Jardine was scared to death of Kimbo's striking.. :lol

So we'll see Kimbo again

Roy Rubbing his belly after the win, very nice..

[dbreiden83080]

Keith Kizer says Hammill decision will stand..


http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/NSAC-Executive-Director-Kizer-Explains-Jones-Hamill-Replay-Ruling-21352

[Spursfan092120]

Great fight by Kimbo...Houston looked terrified the whole fight. Suplex at the end was amazing.

[dbreiden83080]

Kimbo fought good man, he deserves some credit. Everyone had him getting KO'd in the 1st round..

[CubanSucks]

Besides McFaggey winning it was a good night for me.


"The Hybrid" really is the gayest fucking nickname I've ever heard. It's like they had to hurry and make one up right before the fight.


Don't know what the hell Houston was doing! It was like watching a cartoon. You could tell Kimbo was pissed and finally got to take it out on him when he got him down. If he had won with those half ass leg kicks I would have been pissed! I really thought Houston was gonna pound Kimbo before the fight.


Glad to see "The Hybrid" get KOd. I might be in the minority but I always thought that he thought he was just God's gift to MMA

[dbreiden83080]

The Hybrid has a long way to go. He was losing every fight he won on TUF. Last night he was basically hammered. Talented but he needs work..

[IX_Equilibrium]

I think the Kimbo-Alexander fight was a work.

[dbreiden83080]

I think the Kimbo-Alexander fight was a work.

:lmao

Uh no.. This isn't WWE

[IX_Equilibrium]

:lmao

Uh no.. This isn't WWE

You're telling me that works have never happened in MMA??? Ok....

[dbreiden83080]

You're telling me that works have never happened in MMA??? Ok....

Never in the UFC, why would you believe otherwise?? The integrity of the sport would be wrecked with one infraction.. Not saying no figher has never bet against himself and took a dive in all of MMA but the UFC sure as hell never told any fighter to do it..

They have too much to lose..

[djohn14]

Gotta Love Jon Jones

- Jon Jones spoke after last night's Ultimate Fighter 10 Finale show, here are the highlights…

On Being Relaxed: "I try to look at everything in life for the best, and now I'm not worried about being undefeated anymore. I can go out there and be more relaxed."

On The Loss: "I thought I won, and when they said I lost, I was like, 'No, this can't be happening,'" Jones said. "But I lost. That said, everything happens for a reason. I just try to look at situations and stumbles and stay strong and bounce back stronger. I'm going to bounce back stronger. No, 'I'm undefeated. I'm so nervous.' I don't have that feeling anymore. I have a loss on my record, so it's OK."

On The Damage He Did To Hamill: "I was hitting him so many times with so many legal blows, I was looking for more ways to get in and try to hit him more effectively," Jones said. "I hit him – I don't know. I hit him so many times, and they didn't stop it. I just kept going, and it came instinctively to come down the middle."

On The Rules: "I'm not positive what the rules are," Jones said. "But I think that 14 or 15 unanswered punches, it should be stopped. I said it in so many interviews, that I respect [Hamill] a lot for the inspiration that he is. It was awkward to keep hitting him like that. I was just hitting him so hard with legal shots, and I didn't realize that it was an illegal shot that I was hitting him with toward the end. I was like, 'Does this not work anymore?' ... I didn't understand why it wasn't getting stopped. I was like, 'Is he waiting for me to gas or something? What is this?' I looked at [Mazzagatti] twice like, 'Why am I still hitting this guy?'"

Credit: MMAJunkie.com

[dbreiden83080]

Matt was getting beat up but he was not badly hurt until he got with with the illegal blows. He was blocking a ton of those shots. Jones was going to win for sure, but Keith Kizer said they even went to the replay and Hammill was put out by the Illegal shots..

[djohn14]

Matt was getting beat up but he was not badly hurt until he got with with the illegal blows. He was blocking a ton of those shots. Jones was going to win for sure, but Keith Kizer said they even went to the replay and Hammill was put out by the Illegal shots..

Not gonna deny that....I do wish that the ruling would be overturned....Not giving Hammill a loss, but making it a no contest.

[dbreiden83080]

Not gonna deny that....I do wish that the ruling would be overturned....Not giving Hammill a loss, but making it a no contest.

It was funny when i was watching it, and i heard Mazzagatti take a point away and then suddenly Matt can't get back up, Jones is celebrating and Rogan and Goldberg are saying Jones has won. But i'm sitting there thinking "Wait isn't that a NC, he was put out by an illegal shot" Rogan and Goldberg did a very bad job last night, in not knowing what was going on..

[oligarchy]

I think the Kimbo-Alexander fight was a work.

I'm with you. There was something up with that fight. There's no fucking way Alexander suddenly turned into a tenative bitch, especially against Kimbo. Kimbo is a joke.

[dbreiden83080]

I'm with you. There was something up with that fight. There's no fucking way Alexander suddenly turned into a tenative bitch, especially against Kimbo. Kimbo is a joke.

Oh stop it.. :lol

Give Kimbo credit, Houston is not exactly a world-beater..

[dbreiden83080]

Kimbo gave Roy a better fight than Brandon did last night..

[BlackSwordsMan]

first round was up in the air

[oligarchy]

Oh stop it.. :lol

Give Kimbo credit, Houston is not exactly a world-beater..

lol. Who said world beater? I just said Houston has never come out like a little girl. Oh well, Kimbo now rules since Houston is a world beater.

Kimbo is still a joke, if it takes a win against someone who didn't even engage him, for the first time in his career, for people to give Kimbo props makes me laugh.

[dbreiden83080]

lol. Who said world beater? I just said Houston has never come out like a little girl. Oh well, Kimbo now rules since Houston is a world beater.

Kimbo is still a joke, if it takes a win against someone who didn't even engage him, for the first time in his career, for people to give Kimbo props makes me laugh.

Nobody said World beater i said Houston isn't one.. What are you talking about?? :lol

And because Kimbo had a decent fight against a decent fighter that means it was fixed.

Fixed by who might i ask? The UFC.. Not in a million years would Dana and the Ferttitas take that risk.. No chance..

The reason Houston looked like shit from what i saw was he was nervous as all hell about losing to Kimbo. He wanted to play it safe, then try to get him late. He did exchange with him more in the 3rd Round. Kimbo fought decent, just give him credit and move on.. It's no big deal that he won

[dbreiden83080]

Why is anyone so shocked he beat Houston Alexander

When did he become a great fighter??

[Stringer_Bell]

I'm with you. There was something up with that fight. There's no fucking way Alexander suddenly turned into a tenative bitch, especially against Kimbo. Kimbo is a joke.

In one of the pre-fight vids, Houston admitted that the fight wasn't going to be a a brawl. It would be an MMA fight and he was gonna make Kimbo be an MMA fighter. But it was Kimbo showing more MMA skills and Houston basically trying to chop his legs down. A man can't walk, he can't fight, right?

It was a good strategy and I can't blame Houston for not wanting to get dropped from the UFC after losing by vicious KTFO in the 1st round.Although a decision loss, where him getting rocked was the main attraction, doesn't look so good either. I HAVE thought about the possibility of certain people telling Houston to not make a mockery out of Kimbo and keep the fight close enough for him to win but also show Kimbo in a good light. The only problem was the suplex, Houston survived most likely cuz he knew a loss where he hardly looked exciting would get him cut from the roster.

[dbreiden83080]

I can't believe some people are lumping the UFC in with Elite XC and their Kimbo treatment..

[TheTruth]

Gained A LOT of respect for Bones Jones as a person after the fight. Classy classy guy. Can't wait til he actually reaches his peak, he's going to be a Bad Bad man.

Big ups to Kimbo. He beat down Houston when he was actually able to catch that running bitch. When Kimbo went down on that leg kick I was pissed thinking he was gonna lose on that shit.

Good for Big Country. Figured he'd win all along, but nice to see him shut Dana the hell up.

[oligarchy]

In one of the pre-fight vids, Houston admitted that the fight wasn't going to be a a brawl. It would be an MMA fight and he was gonna make Kimbo be an MMA fighter. But it was Kimbo showing more MMA skills and Houston basically trying to chop his legs down. A man can't walk, he can't fight, right?

It was a good strategy and I can't blame Houston for not wanting to get dropped from the UFC after losing by vicious KTFO in the 1st round.Although a decision loss, where him getting rocked was the main attraction, doesn't look so good either. I HAVE thought about the possibility of certain people telling Houston to not make a mockery out of Kimbo and keep the fight close enough for him to win but also show Kimbo in a good light. The only problem was the suplex, Houston survived most likely cuz he knew a loss where he hardly looked exciting would get him cut from the roster.

At least you have a clue. :toast

I also find it funny that people believe it's impossible for UFC to do the same thing that EliteXC did. EliteXC didn't tell them to drop the fight, but to just keep it standing. So, UFC picks a guy who they know has ZERO ground game.

The problem is, it was a one fight contract. So, it would behoove him to make the best of it, not make it a joke, unless it was OKAY for him to fight that way. With a one fight contract now, with that constraint, would it be more likely for them to say "Hey, we aren't saying lose the fight, but just don't win it in the first minute or the first round?" I believe that situation is highly probable.

I don't think the end result was fixed, but I do believe something may have been asked or even intimated.

And YES, absofuckinglutely yes, Kimbo is HORRIBLE.

[dallaskd]

Nobody said World beater i said Houston isn't one.. What are you talking about?? :lol

And because Kimbo had a decent fight against a decent fighter that means it was fixed.

Fixed by who might i ask? The UFC.. Not in a million years would Dana and the Ferttitas take that risk.. No chance..

The reason Houston looked like shit from what i saw was he was nervous as all hell about losing to Kimbo. He wanted to play it safe, then try to get him late. He did exchange with him more in the 3rd Round. Kimbo fought decent, just give him credit and move on.. It's no big deal that he won

Houston didnt do it for Dana. He did it for his buddies in Vegas.

[dbreiden83080]

you know the opinions in here are starting to resemble those you would see on Sherdog...

[djohn14]

you know the opinions in here are starting to resemble those you would see on Sherdog...

Ha for real!

[oligarchy]

you know the opinions in here are starting to resemble those you would see on Sherdog...

..and what opinions are those? That some people believe that the fight may not have been on the up and up? If you believe that people stating that "impossible" opinion makes this forum seem like Sherdog, then I think you are complete and utter moron. Just because people don't believe that the UFC is the wholy grail of fighting, and is bound by some moral compass, which would never do such a thing, doesn't make the opinion not valid. Guess what? It's just NOT your opinion. It sure as fuck doesn't make it wrong.

The funny thing is. You should find this thing called the Internet. It's pretty sweet actually, because you find all this other information and people talking about the fight. And, HOLY SHIT, guess what? That idea that the fight may not been 100% pure, unadulterated fighting is a pretty popular sentiment among fight fans. So, I think it's YOUR comments and opinions that are those found on Sherdog forums. You know, the posts of people blatantly disregarding what other people, even a consensus of people, believe to be true, and pretend that their stance is the end-all, be-all. I find it amusing that if people don't agree with your posts, they are suddenly "Sherdoggers." :rolleyes

[Soul_Patch]

Jon Jones is a freak. That dude is all arms and legs. I think he has a huge fighting career in front of him. I know he has a fought a few times (impressive) already, but ive missed him. I am glad i got to see him on this card. Sucks about what happened, but he showed his class despite. Look forward to seeing him take on some top competition.

[Evan]

cmon y'all...

no need for that

[dallaskd]

cmon y'all...

no need for that


you know the opinions in here are starting to resemble those you would see on Sherdog...

I didnt see anything wrong with anything said. If your talking about the possibility of a fight being fixed, do I think it happened? no. But I wouldnt put it past the possibility. MLB, NBA, NFL, to the olympics have all been caught in scandals with betting on games, shaving points, to straight throwing games. So would I put it past Houston Alexander or even the UFC, whos home is in vegas to ever fix a fight? not at all. You are fucking ignorant if you think mma is a holy sport where it couldnt ever be involved in any kind of scandal. Again, I personally dont think there was one. But with a sport whos refs and judges already have had suspicious behavior in the past, to say that there is no way it happened is a big statement.

If that is not what your talking about then im not sure what you are referring to. No one here trolls. Just people giving their opinion. Im not sure why we try to candy coat this forum when the rest of spurstalk is notorious for personal attacks and trolling. This thread is no where near sherdog status. The internet is not a kind place. If we can have threads about 9-11 conspiracies why cant we have one about a fight..

[Evan]

Im not sure why we try to candy coat this forum when the rest of spurstalk is notorious for personal attacks and trolling..

isn't nice having a little small slice of the internet free from that?

maybe its just me.

[djohn14]

I have some openions...but Id rather just talk facts...Jon Jones is a badass...

[Stringer_Bell]

you know the opinions in here are starting to resemble those you would see on Sherdog...

The few times I've read those forums, whenever someone says something funny or witty, everyone shits on it because they didn't think of it first. The people IN HERE at least have some personality and THAT place is full of rats. :toast

Yes, Jones is a bad man. Any ideas for a next opponent? Rich Franklin maybe? Bad news for Franklin, I say!

[dbreiden83080]

..and what opinions are those? That some people believe that the fight may not have been on the up and up? If you believe that people stating that "impossible" opinion makes this forum seem like Sherdog, then I think you are complete and utter moron. Just because people don't believe that the UFC is the wholy grail of fighting, and is bound by some moral compass, which would never do such a thing, doesn't make the opinion not valid. Guess what? It's just NOT your opinion. It sure as fuck doesn't make it wrong.

The funny thing is. You should find this thing called the Internet. It's pretty sweet actually, because you find all this other information and people talking about the fight. And, HOLY SHIT, guess what? That idea that the fight may not been 100% pure, unadulterated fighting is a pretty popular sentiment among fight fans. So, I think it's YOUR comments and opinions that are those found on Sherdog forums. You know, the posts of people blatantly disregarding what other people, even a consensus of people, believe to be true, and pretend that their stance is the end-all, be-all. I find it amusing that if people don't agree with your posts, they are suddenly "Sherdoggers." :rolleyes

You got all this out of one comment i made.. No wonder you and Leonard hate eachother.. :lol

[dbreiden83080]

isn't nice having a little small slice of the internet free from that?

maybe its just me.

It's gotten much more nasty in here of late..

probably time for a break..

[oligarchy]

You got all this out of one comment i made.. No wonder you and Leonard hate eachother.. :lol

explain the "opinions" in this thread that are so "sherdog"

[dallaskd]

wow this card got 5.2 million viewers..

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/12/8/1191783/kimbo-slice-draws-5-2-million

[dallaskd]

12-to-6 rule explained..


Following the Jon Jones disqualification against Matt Hamill at The Ultimate Fighter 10 Finale for illegal elbow strikes, the illegal elbow rule has drawn a lot of attention.


The Unified Rules used by Nevada lists 31 fouls. “Striking downward using the point of the elbow” is listed as number 10, but doesn’t mean exactly what it says.


Taken from the Nevada State Athletic Commission website, here’s the official wording of the rule.


“NAC 467.7962 Acts constituting fouls. (NRS 467.030)


10. Striking downward using the point of the elbow. All elbow strikes are legal except for an elbow that is thrown in a downward trajectory (hand traveling from 12 o’clock to 6 o’clock). Any elbow thrown with an arc is a legal elbow. The point of the elbow may be used as striking instrument as well as the forearm or the tricep area of the arm.”


In a February 2006 interview with MMAWeekly Radio, legendary referee “Big” John McCarthy explained why the rule was made and the back history that led to it’s initiation.


“What it was, was when the Unified Rules were put together they took all the organizations. You had the UFC, Pride. You had the IFC. You had Hook-N-Shoot at the time. There were various organizations that all met together in New Jersey. Larry Hazzard is the one that put it together so he could clarify his rules. Marc Ratner was on a phone line for it, and they ended up having everyone sit there and try to come together with what they could be happy with,” explained McCarthy.


“One of the things that happed was there was an IFC show that happened before that meeting occurred. There were a couple of fights, and because New Jersey wasn’t comfortable with Mixed Martial Arts at the time, there were a couple of fights that went on to change things as far as what they were going to permit and not permit,” added McCarthy.


“You have all these different organizations, and you have all these people with what they want to be able to do, so it’s tough to get people to agree on things. Finally, one of the things that was brought up is in one of the fights a fighter took another guy’s back and tried to sink in a choke. He couldn’t sink in the choke, so he started taking his hand and bringing it up and elbowing to the back of the guy’s head and neck.


“The doctor from New Jersey had a conniption about it. He said I will never ever pass something that allows that type of strike. That could be life threatening, and he started going into his thing, and so the one elbow they took out was that elbow, that type of position. The way that they wrote it up, you could interpret it a ton of ways, but the true position they were talking about was the hand coming up to twelve o’clock to six o’clock.”


http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=10178&zoneid=1

[djohn14]

Yes, Jones is a bad man. Any ideas for a next opponent? Rich Franklin maybe? Bad news for Franklin, I say!

Id love to see that and I think he'd do just fine. Im not saying he'd win, but I think he would hold his own and then some. I doubt they want to push him that much yet...probably give him a few more mid card fighters before someone of that nature.

[dallaskd]

The UFC needs Kimbo. The numbers dont lie. Can anyone else not understand how he learned nothing from his time with Bas? oh and stfu to everyone out there hating on the guy. He has 5 professional fights and a whole season of TUF. He had never even trained in MMA until his mid 30's. Im not sure why people expect him to do something. What do you want a 35 old man who has never trained cardio since high school football to do? He is at ATT. If he will work hard, he can be a decent HW. I just dont think he needs to be in the UFC right now. More suited for KOTC or even strikeforce.

[The TroutBum]

:lmao

Uh no.. This isn't WWE

Right...

http://www.camelclutchblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/brockwwe.jpg

Give it time, my friend, it soon WILL be the WWE.

[Evan]

Right...

http://www.camelclutchblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/brockwwe.jpg

Give it time, my friend, it soon WILL be the WWE.

every sport has had athletes that have done that shit in some form or another. Brock was a NCAA champion far before he did WWE. Can't blame a guy for doing whatever it takes to make as much money as possible. What other options did he have? Change tires somewhere?

[ATRAIN]

every sport has had athletes that have done that shit in some form or another. Brock was a NCAA champion far before he did WWE. Can't blame a guy for doing whatever it takes to make as much money as possible. What other options did he have? Change tires somewhere?

He made the wise choice cause there wasnt an outlet for him. It made him rich.

[desflood]

Can't blame a guy for doing whatever it takes to make as much money as possible. What other options did he have? Change tires somewhere?
:lol

[anakha]

every sport has had athletes that have done that shit in some form or another. Brock was a NCAA champion far before he did WWE. Can't blame a guy for doing whatever it takes to make as much money as possible. What other options did he have? Change tires somewhere?

Don't bother with the logic. You are talking to the guy who was happy Brock got sick, you know.

[The TroutBum]

Don't bother with the logic. You are talking to the guy who was happy Brock got sick, you know.

Hey, I took back what I said -- I was wrong, admittedly so. But you can't tell me that the UFC100 card didn't SCARE the shit out of you... because it did me. He's WWE through and through, and before you know it, the $$$ will win out and the integrity of the sport will be shot. Brock is the catalyst.

[dbreiden83080]

Hey, I took back what I said -- I was wrong, admittedly so. But you can't tell me that the UFC100 card didn't SCARE the shit out of you... because it did me. He's WWE through and through, and before you know it, the $$$ will win out and the integrity of the sport will be shot. Brock is the catalyst.

IT didn't scare me at all. Brock is not the first guy to talk a ton of shit after a fight and Mir has been a total ass leading up to his fight with Kongo tonight, calling him every name in the book so he's a hypocrit as far as i am concerned.. Plus Brock got read the riot act in the back by Dana, he will not be that over the top again after a fight but at the same time, the UFC also did not bring him in to act like everybody else. They are sure not paying him like everybody else

[anakha]

Hey, I took back what I said -- I was wrong, admittedly so. But you can't tell me that the UFC100 card didn't SCARE the shit out of you... because it did me. He's WWE through and through, and before you know it, the $$$ will win out and the integrity of the sport will be shot. Brock is the catalyst.

Lots of UFC fighters are douchebags. Are you hating on Brock because he happens to be a successful douchebag? Where's all this venom for someone like Chris Leben, for example?

And 'integrity'? Are you insinuating that the fights will be fixed? You know Dana's not stupid enough to do that.

[The TroutBum]

Lots of UFC fighters are douchebags. Are you hating on Brock because he happens to be a successful douchebag? Where's all this venom for someone like Chris Leben, for example?

And 'integrity'? Are you insinuating that the fights will be fixed? You know Dana's not stupid enough to do that.

Right... Every person in jail for fraud wasn't stupid enough to do that, right? $$$ will ruin everyone. I'm not going to get into my Brock hate, but I really do hate the guy, and it has nothing to do with him being 'successful' (or just a fat load of lard that just lays on his opponents) -- well, maybe a little, as I'm a Mir homer. I really can't wait to see Mir completely butt mash him in part 3.

[angelbelow]

Just caught the finale, sounds like Big Country is obsessed with Burger King.

[dallaskd]

good interview with kimbo..

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Slice-on-Alexander-Fight-amp-Whats-Next-21670