Arguing a pick up game call

[BullsDynasty]

Me and my friends were playing a pick up game and were arguing a call. One of my teammates saved the ball from going out of bounds. His footing was initially out of bounds. I thought it was ok but my friend says, his foot must be inbounds first and jump from in bounds to save the ball. But I said it wouldnt matter. Can a player still save the ball even he was originally out of bounds?

[Spursfan092120]

as long as the ball isn't touching him when he was touching the ground out of bounds, it's fine. If he jumps and saves the ball from hitting the ground out of bounds, whether he's out of bounds or not, it's a save.

[mogrovejo]

Me and my friends were playing a pick up game and were arguing a call. One of my teammates saved the ball from going out of bounds. His footing was initially out of bounds. I thought it was ok but my friend says, his foot must be inbounds first and jump from in bounds to save the ball. But I said it wouldnt matter. Can a player still save the ball even he was originally out of bounds?

According to FIBA rules, players receive a technical foul every time they are out of bounds (unless he's going after a loose ball, the momentum carries him out of bounds and he promptly returns to the court). For example, it's illegal to make a cut stepping out of bounds (e.g. to turn a screen). The refs rarely call this, even though for some odd reason they're enforcing it more this season.

I don't know the NBA rule.

In any case, and this is valid for both rule books, a players position is determined by where they're touching the floor or where they last touched the floor if they are airborne. In this case, your teammate's position was out-of-bounds. Therefore, he touched the ball while out-of-bounds so the ball is out-of-bounds and the possession shall be awarded to the other team. Your friend is right.

[Xylus]

According to FIBA rules, players receive a technical foul every time they are out of bounds (unless he's going after a loose ball, the momentum carries him out of bounds and he promptly returns to the court). For example, it's illegal to make a cut stepping out of bounds (e.g. to turn a screen). The refs rarely call this, even though for some odd reason they're enforcing it more this season.

I don't know the NBA rule.

In any case, and this is valid for both rule books, a players position is determined by where they're touching the floor or where they last touched the floor if they are airborne. In this case, your teammate's position was out-of-bounds. Therefore, he touched the ball while out-of-bounds so the ball is out-of-bounds and the possession shall be awarded to the other team. Your friend is right.

Yeah, the friend is right. The player was out-of-bounds, since it depends entirely on where the person's foot last touched before touching the ball.

[Höfner]

Play ball with somebody else.

[BullsDynasty]

According to FIBA rules, players receive a technical foul every time they are out of bounds (unless he's going after a loose ball, the momentum carries him out of bounds and he promptly returns to the court). For example, it's illegal to make a cut stepping out of bounds (e.g. to turn a screen). The refs rarely call this, even though for some odd reason they're enforcing it more this season.

I don't know the NBA rule.

In any case, and this is valid for both rule books, a players position is determined by where they're touching the floor or where they last touched the floor if they are airborne. In this case, your teammate's position was out-of-bounds. Therefore, he touched the ball while out-of-bounds so the ball is out-of-bounds and the possession shall be awarded to the other team. Your friend is right.

Even if I was airborne while saving the ball?

[phyzik]

Even if I was airborne while saving the ball?

Yes, because the last position of your friends foot on the court was out of bounds. Had he been in-bounds and then airborne going out of bounds, then it would have counted because the last position of his foot was in bounds before he went airborne.

[pauls931]

LOL, I can see coaches setting up plays where players jump inbounds from the scorers table to catch a pass and defenders up in the nosebleed seats...

[Donkeybong]

your friend is right. you cannot be out of bounds while trying to keep a ball in play. It's like someone 30 feet off the court saves a ball by just jumping in mid air and throwing it back. it doesn't make sense.

[dickface]

You and your friends probably suck dick at basketball.

[InRareForm]

first time playing ball?

[MannyIsGod]

lol?

I'm going to go stand out of bounds but its ok because I'll just jump and be airborne.

[spursncowboys]

Everyone knows rules in streetball evolve for the occasion. Your buddy should have let it go for ingenuity. Also never call over the back in street ball.

[Rip-Hamilton32]

shoot for it

ball don't lie

[carrao45]

as long as the ball isn't touching him when he was touching the ground out of bounds, it's fine. If he jumps and saves the ball from hitting the ground out of bounds, whether he's out of bounds or not, it's a save.

Nope. The rules state that the last place the feet touched is their current position until they land elsewhere. If you jump while out of bounds, then touch the ball while in the air, it's still out of bounds on you...

[JamStone]

I suggest drinking enough beer or smoking enough weed before you go play pick-up that you don't get all wound up over an out of bounds call in a pick up game.

[YoMamaIsCallin]

I'm sorry, what? You actually argued about this?

Everyone knows that if you jump up from out-of-bounds and touch a live ball before landing inbounds, the call is out-of-bounds on you, ball goes over to the other team. This is basic rules of basketball.

You have to step over the line and touch the floor inbounds before touching the ball.

[BullsDynasty]

To clarify, let me rephrase. He was running on a fast break with this other dude, the other guy lobs the ball in the air for a pass but it goes out of bounds in the air. The other person running with him goes to save it. Instead of jumping from inbounds he jumps while he is out of bounds and saves the ball.

[mogrovejo]

To clarify, let me rephrase. He was running on a fast break with this other dude, the other guy lobs the ball in the air for a pass but it goes out of bounds in the air. The other person running with him goes to save it. Instead of jumping from inbounds he jumps while he is out of bounds and saves the ball.

Out-of-bounds. The fact that he's air-bone is irrelevant.

[Dunc n Dave]

Wherever your feet last touched the floor is what the refs llok at when you touch the ball.

It's the same as when a team passes immediately back to the inbounder. If the inbounder has not established himself as "inbounds" by getting both feet inbounds, even if he catches the ball in the air and lands inbounds, he is STILL OUT, because the last place his feet were touching (before touching the ball) was out of bounds

The only way the play you argued is legal is if the guy who touched the ball jumped from from inbounds and threw the ball back in play before either foot hits the floor out of bounds.

Again, your friend was right...

[Dunc n Dave]

Here's an officating website for you to prove that your friend was right:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/21794083/Clearly-Out-of-Bounds-60-Seconds-Officiating

Here's the quote that relates to your question:

Player jumping to save the ball from going out of bounds...
-Watch the feet of the player jumping prior to touching the ball.
-Did the player jump from completely inbounds?
-Or, did they leap from out of bounds (or foot touching the boundary line)?
-Blow the whistle immediately when the player touches the ball to save it if they were not completely inbounds prior to the jumping.