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duncan228
12-04-2009, 05:02 AM
Bulls weigh trade options for Thomas (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AoniYUgwJhDV81y7ypDW6Ee8vLYF?slug=aw-tradebuzz120309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)
By Adrian Wojnarowski

So far, NBA general managers are still passing judgment on their own teams, evaluating needs and slowly, surely feeling out the market. The February trade deadline is more than two months away, but conversations are beginning to gather momentum.

For starters, multiple league executives believe the Chicago Bulls’ shopping of forward Tyrus Thomas could result with him moving sooner than later. As Thomas has rehabbed a broken forearm, the Bulls have had discussions with several teams, but perhaps none as serious as the ongoing dialogue general manager Gar Forman has had with New York Knicks president Donnie Walsh.

Several sources believe the Bulls are agreeable to a package of Thomas and Jerome James for Knicks forward Al Harrington. Thus far, Walsh has resisted parting with Harrington, but discussions are still active and the teams have explored different combinations in recent days that would ultimately deliver Thomas to the Knicks.

“Nothing is imminent, but both sides would like to figure out a way to do this,” one league executive briefed on the talks told Yahoo! Sports.

The Bulls believe Harrington’s ability to score coupled with a $10.2 million expiring contract make this a worthy exchange. Knicks coach Mike D’Antoni has long been fond of Thomas, a 6-foot-9 forward whose nimbleness and athleticism makes him an intriguing fit for New York.

Thomas, 23, was the fourth pick in the 2006 NBA draft, and started to fulfill his promise with 10.9 points and 6.4 rebounds last season. Nevertheless, Chicago believes it has a worthy power forward successor on the cheap in rookie Taj Gibson, and jettisoning Thomas would also eliminate his approximate $13 million cap hold for the Bulls next summer.

Thomas’ agent, Brian Elfus, tried to negotiate a contract extension with Chicago, but talks never pushed past perfunctory.

Here are other teams that front-office officials, coaches and agent say are active in talks.

Portland: Since Travis Outlaw has been lost for four to five months with foot surgery, GM Kevin Pritchard has been working the phones for an athletic forward as a replacement.

That isn’t much of a surprise, but this is: In conversations with Portland’s front office and coaching staffs, several league officials believe Andre Miller could soon be available. As a free-agent signee over the summer, Miller can’t be traded until Dec. 15.

After missing out on several preferred free agents, Pritchard settled for Miller and signed him to a three-year, $21 million contract, the first two years of which are guaranteed. Yet, Blazers coaches have privately insisted to confidants throughout the league that Miller isn’t working out, and the belief is that Pritchard is testing the market on Miller’s worth. Portland could stay with Steve Blake or use Miller to bring back another playmaker.

Sources say that Brandon Roy clearly prefers playing with Blake over Miller, and that’s an issue that Pritchard must contend with.

Houston: The Rockets continue to offer Tracy McGrady in a trade, but that will be a difficult proposition considering he’s the highest-paid player in the league ($23.2 million) and no one has seen him play in nine months. Houston seems willing to take back a longer-term contract for McGrady, but most executives believe his high salary makes it hard to put together a package.

Rockets GM Daryl Morey and coach Rick Adelman don’t want McGrady back with the team, and have insisted that he isn’t physically ready to return to the lineup. McGrady would love a trade, but knows he must start playing again for it to be possible.

Philadelphia: Sixers GM Ed Stefanski is desperate to unload forward Elton Brand and the $66 million owed over the remaining four years of his crippling contract, sources say, but that will be incredibly difficult. Even with several teams, including Golden State and Charlotte, desperate for low-post scorers and rebounders, no one believes Brand, who makes $14.8 million this season, has enough left to merit taking on that contract.

Before Monta Ellis started on his scoring tear, Philly had hope that his issues with Golden State might inspire the Warriors to take a chance on Brand, but that isn’t happening. Sacramento had some interest in center Samuel Dalembert, another contract Philly wants to shed, but couldn’t work out a three-way deal with Boston.

Los Angeles Lakers: With a league high payroll of $91 million, the Lakers are looking again to shed salary off their bench, and GM Mitch Kupchak has told teams to take its pick of reserve players – except for Lamar Odom, of course – to relieve the team of some salary.

That idea worked out last season, when losing the salary of Vladimir Radmanovic to Charlotte unearthed the valuable Shannon Brown for the Lakers.

duncan228
12-04-2009, 01:24 PM
Fun, Fun, Fun with Tyrus Thomas and Al Harrington (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=tsn-funfunfunwithtyrusth&prov=tsn&type=lgns)
SportingNews

Here’s a really deep question for you: Is it possible for a win/win to be a lose/lose? I’m writing, of course, of the Al Harrington-for-Tyrus Thomas swap discussed today by Yahoo!’s Adrian Wojnarowski (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Aq6FbXvnZVDSSeRkhJKXEyKzvLYF?slug=aw-tradebuzz120309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns). Nothing imminent, but "both sides would like to figure a way to do this":

The Bulls believe Harrington’s ability to score coupled with a $10.2 million expiring contract make this a worthy exchange. Knicks coach Mike D’Antoni has long been fond of Thomas, a 6-foot-9 forward whose nimbleness and athleticism makes him an intriguing fit for New York.

Thomas, 23, was the fourth pick in the 2006 NBA draft, and started to fulfill his promise with 10.9 points and 6.4 rebounds last season. Nevertheless, Chicago believes it has a worthy power forward successor on the cheap in rookie Taj Gibson, and jettisoning Thomas would also eliminate his approximate $13 million cap hold for the Bulls next summer.

Harrington might as well not even play in the NBA. The Knicks are headed nowhere, and he won’t be around to witness the dawning of the new age next season. He puts up numbers that mean nothing to no one, as MSG becomes like a trip to Golden State minus the weirdness and unpredictability. It’s the Disney-fication of up-tempo, edgy NBA ball, and just as meaningless.

Thomas, on the other hand, has slowly but surely gone from moody ball of potential to spacey youngster capable of producing when given the chance—and still finds himself deployed inconsistently. It isn’t the same as having his confidence shattered by Skiles, and yet hypocritically, a Bulls organization that allowed its head coach to tear down a lottery pick’s confidence hasn’t made a point of rehabbing it. Moot, I know, since he’s out with a broken arm. But if Taj Gibson is his replacement … cap stuff aside, that’s a slap in the face. Thomas and Derrick Rose should be an unstoppable aerial tandem.

So suppose Thomas goes to the Knicks, where there are no rules and unfortunately, no one to lob him the ball or break down the defense (outside of Larry Hughes). And Harrington lands on the Bulls, in a reprise of his early years on the Pacers, but as a vet. If Gibson is the PF of the future—never Harrington’s natural position, to be sure—and Luol Deng and John Salmons are still around at the SF slot, Baby Al (yeah, I said it) might be on a more real team. But to what effect? Cap relief this summer for Chicago, most likely.

As for Thomas to New York, sure, unleashing him in a setting where mistakes only matter so much and any kind of defense is a godsend would likely ignite TT’s career. Or would it? The Knicks are not only irrelevant, they’re meaningless. Thomas would have to take advantage of the wide-open setting to truly expand his game, not just do what we’ve always seen in spurts. Otherwise, he’s been cast out from a semi-legit team, but only now is getting the chance to prove he can do what would’ve really helped Chicago.

Thomas is restricted this coming summer, so maybe he’s playing to prove himself for a contract. Assuming, of course, he can convince teams that he’s finally matured and pieced together whatever pieces of his psyche Skiles dislodged. But this is 2010. In another year, this sojourn in Knick-dom might create the illusion of a breakout year. Instead, teams would be looking just to see him back on track, and then, what kind of money is left? With teams planning to sign whole all-star teams, what money is there for Tyrus Thomas?

Best case for Thomas: New York cashes in with free agents and still decides to retain him for cheap or at least pick up his qualifying offer. Worst case, he ends up on the Grizzlies. For Harrington, he should probably be looking to sign with a contender for nothing. That or sneak into the Hawks locker room and hope no one notices.

jacobdrj
12-04-2009, 01:27 PM
Interesting. Should I add him to my under-played C thread, or mark him as a 'known commodity'.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
12-04-2009, 01:29 PM
I predict Anthony Morrow has a stretch of bad shooting games, Don Nelson gets drunk and forgets how good he's been so far this year, gets some weird delusion he can make Sasha Vujacic an all star, and trades Morrow + Claxton's expiring contract for Vujacic.

Thunder Dan
12-04-2009, 01:31 PM
I was reading a couple things about him being traded to the Knicks for Harrington

http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/12/03/yahoo-knicksbulls-in-discussion-over-ty-thomas/

The Gemini Method
12-04-2009, 02:27 PM
I predict Anthony Morrow has a stretch of bad shooting games, Don Nelson gets drunk and forgets how good he's been so far this year, gets some weird delusion he can make Sasha Vujacic an all star, and trades Morrow + Claxton's expiring contract for Vujacic.

We'll throw in a bottle of The Macallans for Donnie, too. Which, would then get fans to scream collusion cuz we all know the single barrel scotch is worth more than Sasha...