JVG: Gasol is currently they second best PF in the game behind Dirk

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[djohn2oo8]

Then Mark Jackson goes : "There are no flaws in Gasol's game except for the question of being soft"

[BUMP]

Close but I still gotta put Duncan>Gasol.

I mean if Duncan and Kobe were on the same team, even at Tim's age, they might as well cancel the season. Gasol is still 2nd fiddle

[pauls931]

you're currently the 2nd worst troll behind that steve jobs clown.

[Xevious]

Are we really still considering Duncan a PF? He's the center. In fact, he's the only center the Spurs have on their active roster. I don't care if they still label him a forward.

[21_Blessings]

Pau's defense while not amazing, is very underrated and has improved. That needs to be respected and inserted into the Dirk v Pau argument.

[remingtonbo2001]

:lmao

[ploto]

A lot of people look at TD as a center.

[Rummpd]

Ok then Garnett is still better than Gasol as well.

[monosylab1k]

Pau's defense while not amazing, is very underrated and has improved. That needs to be respected and inserted into the Dirk v Pau argument.

Either way, Dirk's defense is still better.

[JamStone]

Agree with the comment, because as a few have already stated, Tim Duncan is a center. And if Duncan were still a PF, Gasol would be third, but not far behind the top two of Dirk and Tim. At this point, I don't think KG is better than Gasol anymore, but I suppose it's close.

[Findog]

Pau's defense while not amazing, is very underrated and has improved. That needs to be respected and inserted into the Dirk v Pau argument.

So has Dirk's.

[21_Blessings]

Either way, Dirk's defense is still better.

Better than Gasol? You're delusional.

Fucking Zach Randolph beasted Dirk last night.

[Findog]

Better than Gasol? You're delusional.

Fucking Zach Randolph beasted Dirk last night.

Dirk's D has vastly improved from the Nelson years. He's always in the right spot, his rotations are good, he contests shots now and even makes a play now and then. I wouldn't confuse him with Kevin Garnett or Bill Russell, but I wouldn't describe him as a liability either. On balance, Dirk is a better player than Pau. Perhaps Pau is a better fit on the Lakers with his post game, but as a #1 option, Dirk is better.

[21_Blessings]

Gasol is a superior defender. By a pretty hefty margin though.

Dirk is a better number 1 option but I still don't see Dirk winning a title as a number 1 option. If you want a first option that shoots/scores like a shooting guard and grabs defensive rebounds you get Dirk. If you want a consistent low-post threat that scores like a big man should with above average defense then you go with Gasol.

[Findog]

Gasol is a superior defender. By a pretty hefty margin though.

That's fine if you think that, but I get pretty irritated when people say Dirk plays no D. He has the same kind of work ethic as Kobe, you can't keep him out of the gym, and it's something that has vastly improved. He's a way more complete player than he was under Nelson.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

IMO Dirk is a slightly above average defender while Gasol is a good defender. The Lakers improved pick and roll D is mostly cause of Gasol. Either way Dirk > Gasol overall.

[Indazone]

How about nobody gives a crap what JVG says?

[Findog]

Dirk is a better number 1 option but I still don't see Dirk winning a title as a number 1 option. If you want a first option that shoots/scores like a shooting guard and grabs defensive rebounds you get Dirk. If you want a consistent low-post threat that scores like a big man should with above average defense then you go with Gasol.

Well, he came as close as you could possibly come to winning a title with Jason Terry and Josh Howard as his sidekicks, so I think it's possible. Maybe not likely, but possible. I'd like to think that as compared to a guy like Kevin Garnett, Dirk could win a title if his two sidekicks were Ray Allen and Paul Pierce. I've said this before, but I think Dirk is a 1.5 guy, and he probably needs another 1.5 guy to win a championship, and right now Dallas doesn't have that.

Gasol is the #2 guy in LA and benefits immensely from Kobe's presence and Phil's coaching. He was nowhere near the same player in Memphis, and even after his first season in LA, he was called out as being soft. He sacrificed touches on O and worked harder on D because that is what the Lakers needed from him in order to come back and win the title.

[LakasRool4eva]

if u really think about it Gasol has more rings then Dirk............

[jacobdrj]

You are who you guard...

[Findog]

if u really think about it Gasol has more rings then Dirk............

So does Jason Kapano.

Kapano > Dirk.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

if u really think about it Gasol has more rings then Dirk............


Horry > Kobe

[jacobdrj]

Horry>Jordan>>Kobe

[badfish22]

Better than Gasol? You're delusional.

Fucking Zach Randolph beasted Dirk last night.
That was Dirks worse game ive seen in years. And it was mostly Gooden getting beasted. But Dirk was a bit too


IMO Dirk is a slightly above average defender while Gasol is a good defender. The Lakers improved pick and roll D is mostly cause of Gasol. Either way Dirk > Gasol overall.

I agree with this. But you gotta remember Gasol is surrounded by other great defenders, hiding some of his weaknesses. Maybe thats why he has improved so much from his Memphis days.

[dirk4mvp]

Pau insn't anywhere close to Dirk.

Has he ever actually taken over a game in his career?

[j-money24]

Are we really still considering Duncan a PF? He's the center. In fact, he's the only center the Spurs have on their active roster. I don't care if they still label him a forward.

Then what happened to the " Duncan best PF ever"

[Double-Up]

I would have to agree...Dirk's man to man defense is a 6.5 out of 10 and Gasol is about a 7 out of 10 IMO. Of course we all know the better player is Dirk.

[picc84]

Dirk is better overall, but Pau's defense and post game are superior. And his passing. And rebounding.

Dirk is a better scorer, shooter, and has more takeover ability.

I like Pau on the Lakers better because of his post abilities, but i'll admit that Dirk on the Lakers playing with Kobe, Bynum, Artest, and Odom would be filthy.

[crc21209]

It's comments like these that remind me why JVG is a commentator now instead of a coach...:lol

[Double-Up]

It's comments like these that remind me why JVG is a commentator now instead of a coach...:lol

I mean I really can't think of a PF better than Gasol right, can you?

[Findog]

I mean I really can't think of a PF better than Gasol right, can you?

I can. His name is Dirk Nowitzki.

[Double-Up]

I can. His name is Dirk Nowitzki.

I know that, I meant after Dirk obviously. Who would you pick as the 2nd best PF in the game today?

[mavs>spurs2]

I know that, I meant after Dirk obviously. Who would you pick as the 2nd best PF in the game today?

Gaysol

[sook]

Agree with the comment, because as a few have already stated, Tim Duncan is a center. And if Duncan were still a PF, Gasol would be third, but not far behind the top two of Dirk and Tim. At this point, I don't think KG is better than Gasol anymore, but I suppose it's close.
I agree with everything...except that its CLOSE.

People VASTLY overrate KG. THe guy is a better defender but I'll take the guy that can actually play in the low post...Gasol!

[phyzik]

Then what happened to the " Duncan best PF ever"

Because, besides the last 3 or 4 years, he WAS a PF and during that time he was the best. ever.

[redzero]

Gasol is a better defender, but Dirk is without question the better overall player.

[duhoh]

Dirk's D has vastly improved from the Nelson years. He's always in the right spot, his rotations are good, he contests shots now and even makes a play now and then. I wouldn't confuse him with Kevin Garnett or Bill Russell, but I wouldn't describe him as a liability either. On balance, Dirk is a better player than Pau. Perhaps Pau is a better fit on the Lakers with his post game, but as a #1 option, Dirk is better.

I agree with the #1 option, but I dunno about defense. Pau is pretty decent at that

[monosylab1k]

Gasol is a superior defender. By a pretty hefty margin though.

:lmao

[Rogue]

IMO Dirk is a slightly above average defender while Gasol is a good defender. The Lakers improved pick and roll D is mostly cause of Gasol. Either way Dirk > Gasol overall.
Dirk isn't the man to blame on our poor perimeter defense imho. It's just the coach that doesn't have the basic basketball knowledge to read the game hence naturally he has no business how to defend it. Fuck carlisle.

[Rogue]

anyway players aren't paid to train themselves on dismantling pick&rolls.