Game Blog: 5th Dec - Nuggets @ Spurs (8:30pm EST)

[Muser]

What the fuck is this shit? Pickup game players can protect the ball better than this, absolutely pathetic.

[boutons_deux]

Figure a probable loss @UTA.

Maybe a W vs SAC, not sure at all.

[amman]

Wow this team just seems to get worse and worse. Guess we can only beat sub .500 teams. We had an fking 11 pt lead blew it

[Death In June]

What the fuck are NBA refs there for? If the games too fast to be called correctly...

[Chomag]

Fuck its December. This team lost every important game. Screw wins over Toronto, Phila etc. Denver, Lakers and rest also will win over them.

Good news is we have alot of scrub teams comming up to help us look good.

[VBM]

Got a semi-easy week ahead of us at least...Sac-town and Charlotte

[Spurs Brazil]

All this chemistry talk is BS

What we need is TP and Manu play good basketball and not this shit they've been playing so far the whole year

[Juanobili]

Oh great, Utah/away is our next game

*suicide*

[murpjf88]

another BIG game, Another BIG disappointment!

[urunobili]

All this chemistry talk is BS

What we need is TP and Manu play good basketball and not this shit they've been playing so far the whole year

:tu

[Admidave50]

Damn, Spurs look pretty focused in the 1st qtr, don't know if it was about the Celtics loss!
Timmy was awesome (except one or two rebounds, Nuggets got tons of off. rebounds) and Tony was very aggressive (11/12 FTs).

The second unit was pretty bad (GHill, Bonner, Mason...) and the defense was horrible at some times (2nd quarter)

[Chieflion]

Got a semi-easy week ahead of us at least...Sac-town and Charlotte
Big deal. Can't win against good teams and beating up on weak teams.

[024]

now spurs fans can melt down in style. i'll start by suggesting the spurs trade parker. spurs need a pass first point guard to juggle all the new offensive threats.

[murpjf88]

What the fuck are NBA refs there for? If the games too fast to be called correctly...
yeah, its always someone else's fault the spurs lose.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Just caught the last 5 minutes of the game. Looked like a real close and tough game up until the last couple of minutes.

Very happy and surprised the Nuggets stole a close one in San Antonio.

Both teams will be still playing come May/June........... :toast

[magui86770]

The UNFORCED turnovers are driving me freaking insane!!!

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Time to seriously consider trading Manu. The Jefferson trade's looking more and more like a big mistake(should have brought in Carter or SJax).

Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing. Sad, but I think Manu has lost enough quickness from his injuries that from now on all he's got is smarts and a decent jumper. He'll still be effective for a season or two, but he's no cold-hearted assassin any more.

And yeah, RJ has been disappointing. OTOH, few players can do anything to slow down Melo. RJ actually did a pretty good job on him, but Melo couldn't miss.

[Admidave50]

This loss was quite disappointing as we led during the whole 3 qtrs before JR Smith 3 pointer that got them the lead for good...

[alchemist]

Ginobili is in such an awful mode right now, it's so fucking disturbing. I'd rather have Mason out there.

[ElNono]

Defense was actually good in general... I mean, we made enough stops to win this game. The turnovers and poor execution, especially in the clutch are puzzling.
Maybe Pop needs to take the reins back and start calling the offense from the sidelines again.

[urunobili]

Ginobili is in such an awful mode right now, it's so fucking disturbing. I'd rather have Mason out there.

lol he's playing horrible but now THAT bad :lol

[hoopdreams11]

Why do we have are best shotblocker on the bench the whole game?

[Chomag]

Well, maybe we will get to play scrub team all in the playoffs all the way to the championship?? Could happen =P

[Thompson]

So... when can we start to worry again? After this summer I never thought I'd have to watch so many ugly, ugly Spurs games again. :depressed

[urunobili]

Defense was actually good in general... I mean, we made enough stops to win this game. The turnovers and poor execution, especially in the clutch are puzzling.
Maybe Pop needs to take the reins back and start calling the offense from the sidelines again.

the 3rd quarter killed us... BIG TIME... 8 turnovers and careless play...:bang

[murpjf88]

They'll get a rebound in March...no need to get them in December...esp. Dec. 5

I bet thats what they're saying in new jersey!

[Ice009]

However, I am starting to think that we should explore trading Manu. He can't penetrate any more.

Manu still had more points that RJ and he is nowhere near his best form physically. If you want to trade someone look at RJ first, actually look at Matt Bonner first then RJ.

I am sure he is either not in shape or taking less chances by not penetrating as much.

[hitmanyr2k]

now spurs fans can melt down in style. i'll start by suggesting the spurs trade parker. spurs need a pass first point guard to juggle all the new offensive threats.

Sarcasm aside, I think it's quite clear the Spurs have no floor general out there.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

All this chemistry talk is BS

What we need is TP and Manu play good basketball and not this shit they've been playing so far the whole year

Playing good ball = playing with chemistry. It is a team game. It's all about synchronicity. Right now, a lot of the time, players are 1/2 a second late or 3m off their spot, and that's leading to TOs and missed rotations. That is chemistry.

BTW, Tony just owned that 4th Q. He was the only reason we were in the game.

Manu is a real concern though. His explosiveness is sorely missing.

[Ice009]

Good news is we have alot of scrub teams comming up to help us look good.

You're joking right??????

I HATE Playing scrub teams. I'd rather play good teams.

LOL this schedule sucks. lots of stuff sucks this season for the Spurs.

[Tito_Trinidad]

Breaking news: Spurs not making the Playoffs. Duncan era is over. Pop has been fired. Tony playing in LA. Spurs fan you can get a free 99,03,05,07 Box Set for free, picking it up at The Losers Center

[ElNono]

Manu is simply not in game shape. Last season was the same shit. It took him like 10-15 games to finally get in shape. I'm not really worried about him. I'm wondering though why Finley got more run that Mason.

[Admidave50]

Well I think it's still too early to ring the alarm and to get trades ideas about Manu! He's recovering from an injury that forced him to miss 5 games for 10 at the end of november. Manu is obviously not in game shape and the injury didn't help. He still can provide some magic as in the Raptors game.

I thought that RJ had an overall OK game.

[Spurs Brazil]

Playing good ball = playing with chemistry. It is a team game. It's all about synchronicity. Right now, a lot of the time, players are 1/2 a second late or 3m off their spot, and that's leading to TOs and missed rotations. That is chemistry.

BTW, Tony just owned that 4th Q. He was the only reason we were in the game.

Manu is a real concern though. His explosiveness is sorely missing.

TP made some basket but had a key TO and horrible D on Lawson.

He's not playing anywhere near last season.

[Chomag]

You're joking right??????

I HATE Playing scrub teams. I'd rather play good teams.

LOL this schedule sucks. lots of stuff sucks this season for the Spurs.

haha ya I was being sarcastic. Beating on scrub teams will do nothing for us in the playoffs.

[Budkin]

Not a fun season at all so far... opening night was so promising...

[Admidave50]

Playing good ball = playing with chemistry. It is a team game. It's all about synchronicity. Right now, a lot of the time, players are 1/2 a second late or 3m off their spot, and that's leading to TOs and missed rotations. That is chemistry.

BTW, Tony just owned that 4th Q. He was the only reason we were in the game.

Manu is a real concern though. His explosiveness is sorely missing.

The lack of execution on offense and the lack of cohesion to get defensive rebounds were exposed in this game. Even though it as a tough loss, it's still early in the season and these kinds of bad plays are expected!

[magui86770]

Defense was actually good in general... I mean, we made enough stops to win this game. The turnovers and poor execution, especially in the clutch are puzzling.
Maybe Pop needs to take the reins back and start calling the offense from the sidelines again.

Agree with regarding the poor execution. What's with the carelessness of the ball? Coaching was to be a big part of this. It's like false starts/ illegal formation in football. This crap has to be clear up in practice.

but is there a reporter with the balls to ask this question to Pop?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Manu still had more points that RJ and he is nowhere near his best form physically. If you want to trade someone look at RJ first, actually look at Matt Bonner first then RJ.

I am sure he is either not in shape or taking less chances by not penetrating as much.

Actually, I like Bonner off the bench. He's generally doing fine off the bench. Just don't ever start him!

As for Manu, I think his legs are gone. At some point in a guy's career he loses his explosiveness, and Manu looks to have finally lost it. I'm happy to see how he looks in 5-10games and see if he gets it back, but he hasn't had the ability to get by his man at all this season.

If we could trade RJ for Jax I'd do it in a second.

[bbarry]

i swear you people are fucking morons. please, bitches its only december. we're only one game back of our division after mavs lose tonight... hopefully.

[Johnny RIngo]

You're joking right??????

I HATE Playing scrub teams. I'd rather play good teams.

Agreed. Couldn't care less if they beat the garbage teams.

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

I just don't know what to think..... This team is just a mess. TP and RJ don't work together.

[Budkin]

Breaking news: Spurs not making the Playoffs. Duncan era is over. Pop has been fired. Tony playing in LA. Spurs fan you can get a free 99,03,05,07 Box Set for free, picking it up at The Losers Center

Breaking news... you're still a douchebag troll, and not a real Spurs fan.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Forget worrying about the Post Duncan era, this is the Post Bowen era and it's not gonna get much better

[Chomag]

i swear you people are fucking morons. please, bitches its only december. we're only one game back of our division after mavs lose tonight... hopefully.

And here come the usual excuses. Gotta love Spurs talk.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

TP made some basket but had a key TO and horrible D on Lawson.

He's not playing anywhere near last season.

Key TO? The one to Billups in the last seconds? The game was already over, and it wasn't his fault - no-one helped and he was being trapped.

In generally he's not been very good, I agree, but he penetrated at will in the 1st and 4th today which tells me he's on the right track. And when he regains his jumper, watch out.

[Admidave50]

TP made some basket but had a key TO and horrible D on Lawson.

He's not playing anywhere near last season.

TP is missing his jumper to be as good as last season but i think he's getting there and he had a pretty good game tonight with all the layups and FTs.
Tony was the leader scorer tonight with 27 points and he combined with Duncan more than half of the team points (53 pts of 99 pts).

Lawson is devil quick, I'm not sure it was a real lack of defense from TP and you can see that it got on TP's nerves as he was aggressive and hit a tough J on Lawson.

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

Key TO? The one to Billups in the last seconds? The game was already over, and it wasn't his fault - no-one helped and he was being trapped.

In generally he's not been very good, I agree, but he penetrated at will in the 1st and 4th today which tells me he's on the right track. And when he regains his jumper, watch out.


He did penetrate really well in the 4th, but he was also trading baskets with lawson. His defense was pretty bad....

[alchemist]

Forget worrying about the Post Duncan era, this is the Post Bowen era and it's not gonna get much better
Bowen has nothing to do with unforced turnovers, out of sync offense and not being able to get a crucial fucking rebound (this alone should make anyone's blood boil)

[Ice009]

Actually, I like Bonner off the bench. He's generally doing fine off the bench. Just don't ever start him!

As for Manu, I think his legs are gone. At some point in a guy's career he loses his explosiveness, and Manu looks to have finally lost it. I'm happy to see how he looks in 5-10games and see if he gets it back, but he hasn't had the ability to get by his man at all this season.

If we could trade RJ for Jax I'd do it in a second.

Where were you all when I was pushed for Jax weeks ago before he got traded to the Bobcats?????? Now everyone will take Jax back. I was told I was an idiot ;). The great Eric B with his great insight.

Anyway let's give Manu some time like you said. You don't have to explore trading him right now.

If we do consider trading Manu how about we force the other team to take RJ? We could just say hey if you want Manu you gotta take RJ too.

I wonder if the Bobcats would do a Manu and RJ for Wallace and Jackson trade? Hopefully they keep losing up until the trade deadline ;).

I don't think Manu has lost it though. Give him some time.

[Leetonidas]

Key TO? The one to Billups in the last seconds? The game was already over, and it wasn't his fault - no-one helped and he was being trapped.

In generally he's not been very good, I agree, but he penetrated at will in the 1st and 4th today which tells me he's on the right track. And when he regains his jumper, watch out.

In that instance he needs to not be a dumbass and call a timeout or throw it off another player out of bounds. I am never one to complain about the Spurs and I always try to be optimistic but c'mon, they seriously have their heads lodged firmly up their asses.

[J_Paco]

I didn't get to watch the game tonight, but the team has obviously played very poor basketball the last two games. Thankfully, their schedule is moderately easy going into January. I'm hoping that they can right the ship and get on course, especially Tony and Manu.

[Pauleta14]

I thought that RJ had an overall OK game.[/quote]


Only the first half...

[ElNono]

Who won the rebounding battle tonight?

[alchemist]

He did penetrate really well in the 4th, but he was also trading baskets with lawson. His defense was pretty bad....
Parker did his job, he kept his man in front of him, Dice/Blair did not do their jobs as the last line of defense.

[Spurs Brazil]

Key TO? The one to Billups in the last seconds? The game was already over, and it wasn't his fault - no-one helped and he was being trapped.

In generally he's not been very good, I agree, but he penetrated at will in the 1st and 4th today which tells me he's on the right track. And when he regains his jumper, watch out.

No the other one, on the trap with 2:30 or so to go, the same mistake he made in the 3rd quarter

[magui86770]

I hope the team figures it's self out very soon.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

The lack of execution on offense and the lack of cohesion to get defensive rebounds were exposed in this game. Even though it as a tough loss, it's still early in the season and these kinds of bad plays are expected!

Exactly.

It's disappointing and frustrating, but we're still less than 20 games into the season. Most teams don't hit their stride until at least 20 games in.

If we'd been blown out by Boston and the Nuggets, I'd be a little concerned, but we played both of them close and lost the game with silly errors that will disappear as the season goes on and team chemistry builds.

What concerns me about this game is how to stop Melo. He hit about 6 ridiculously difficult shots tonight and made it look easy. :wow

[urunobili]

Who won the rebounding battle tonight?

They did... 38-31

[Admidave50]

Who won the rebounding battle tonight?

38 vs 31 for Nuggets. 11 off rebounds killed us tonight

[kace]

Key TO? The one to Billups in the last seconds? The game was already over, and it wasn't his fault - no-one helped and he was being trapped.

In generally he's not been very good, I agree, but he penetrated at will in the 1st and 4th today which tells me he's on the right track. And when he regains his jumper, watch out.

i think he talks about the one before which was decisive indeed.

but tony and tim were the reason we can call it a game. tony had too many TO and tim not enough rebounds, but still they were great on offense, very efficient.

we seem to lack a little bit of everything. i can't say we're terrible in a thing but not good enough in a lot of different areas.

The offense is running well with TP driving and TD in the post. People don't like it, want ball movement etc etc but what still works the best is what has always worked the best for the spurs.

[ElNono]

They did... 38-31

Thanks :tu

[024]

inserting blair into that last play was kind of perplexing. why would popovich throw a rookie who had only play 12 minutes in the game into the fire like that? if pop wanted offensive rebounding, mcdyess would have been a better option.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Bowen has nothing to do with unforced turnovers, out of sync offense and not being able to get a crucial fucking rebound (this alone should make anyone's blood boil)

When three Spurs players going for the board crash into each other and the ball spills out, which is what happened, what can you do but put your hands on your head and look to the sky? The effort was there, they just fucked it up! :lol

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

I thought that RJ had an overall OK game.


Only the first half...[/quote]


No one looked for RJ in the 2nd..... His defense was about as good as you could ask for on Melo. Anthony just was hot....

[Admidave50]

Exactly.
If we'd been blown out by Boston and the Nuggets, I'd be a little concerned, but we played both of them close and lost the game with silly errors that will disappear as the season goes on and team chemistry builds.


Yeah, it's the 3rd year that the Celtics are playing together and Denver are really good since last year's playoffs. Melo elevated his game this season and has been unstoppable so far.

We added lots of pieces (RJ, Dyess, Blair) this year and injuries didn't help (Tim, Manu, TP, Mason). We'll be much better after the All Star Break

[Spurs Brazil]

The offense is running well with TP driving and TD in the post. People don't like it, want ball movement etc etc but what still works the best is what has always worked the best for the spurs.

I agree with that, maybe TP is thinking too much to get others involved that's why so many TOs

I don't want TP thinking about others, he' not that type of player, I want to see him attacking all the time.

[alchemist]

inserting blair into that last play was kind of perplexing. why would popovich throw a rookie who had only play 12 minutes in the game into the fire like that? if pop wanted offensive rebounding, mcdyess would have been a better option.
:lol please tell me you're joking. That "rookie" was putting in work on Garnett/Rasheed

[Admidave50]

Only the first half...


No one looked for RJ in the 2nd..... His defense was about as good as you could ask for on Melo. Anthony just was hot....[/QUOTE]

Yeah, some of his shots were falling tonight and he should have attacked the rim much more. Melo is not a very good defender and he would have been at least tired on offense or in foul troubles.

[Chomag]

inserting blair into that last play was kind of perplexing. why would popovich throw a rookie who had only play 12 minutes in the game into the fire like that? if pop wanted offensive rebounding, mcdyess would have been a better option.

You got me. Maybe just that Pop thought Denver would think the same thing.

[Pauleta14]

Where were you all when I was pushed for Jax weeks ago before he got traded to the Bobcats?????? Now everyone will take Jax back. I was told I was an idiot ;). The great Eric B with his great insight.

Anyway let's give Manu some time like you said. You don't have to explore trading him right now.

If we do consider trading Manu how about we force the other team to take RJ? We could just say hey if you want Manu you gotta take RJ too.

I wonder if the Bobcats would do a Manu and RJ for Wallace and Jackson trade? Hopefully they keep losing up until the trade deadline ;).

I don't think Manu has lost it though. Give him some time.


The spurs FO will NEVER get rid of Manu in the midle on a season!!! never!
It would be such a lack of respect regarding all he gave to the club...

[Admidave50]

Well after being up until 9 am in the morning it's time to get a life (noon in China lol).

Disappointing game but keep believing in our team, Spurs fans! =p

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Where were you all when I was pushed for Jax weeks ago before he got traded to the Bobcats?????? Now everyone will take Jax back. I was told I was an idiot ;). The great Eric B with his great insight.

Anyway let's give Manu some time like you said. You don't have to explore trading him right now.

If we do consider trading Manu how about we force the other team to take RJ? We could just say hey if you want Manu you gotta take RJ too.

I wonder if the Bobcats would do a Manu and RJ for Wallace and Jackson trade? Hopefully they keep losing up until the trade deadline ;).

I don't think Manu has lost it though. Give him some time.

Don't know which threads, but I definitely posted about being happy to take Jax back (although I also doubted it would happen since Pop would probably baulk, and we don't hav much the Warriors would want). ;)

As for Manu, I think we can properly assess his health in about 10 games, but we should be quietly feeling out what's availbale for him if, as I suspect, we discover that he has finally lost a step (which would totally hamper his effectiveness) due to all the leg injuries and pounding he has taken over the years.


In that instance he needs to not be a dumbass and call a timeout or throw it off another player out of bounds. I am never one to complain about the Spurs and I always try to be optimistic but c'mon, they seriously have their heads lodged firmly up their asses.

There was no other player in the backcourt to pass to, and surely calling the timeout in that situation is the inballer's (Tim's) repsonsibility given that TP was running like a bat out of hell trying to get open.

[urunobili]

lol the Mavs were just robbed by the refs...

[duncan228]

Updated.

Anthony scores 34 points, Nuggets beat Spurs (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap?gid=2009120524&prov=ap)
By Paul J. Weber

Carmelo Anthony won another game for the Denver Nuggets, then parked in front of a television in the locker room trying to will the Texas Longhorns to a victory in the Big 12 Championship football game.

These days, the NBA’s leading scorer can’t lose.

Anthony scored 22 of his 34 points in the second half, and the Nuggets won their third straight with a 106-99 victory over the San Antonio Spurs to continue their best start in franchise history. Denver had trailed virtually the entire game until early in the fourth quarter, then never gave the lead back.

“For us to come in and gut this one out, it was a statement win for us,” Anthony said.

Chauncey Billups added 18 points as Denver pushed its record to 15-5 and continued the best start in franchise history. The Nuggets will continue their four-game trip Monday night in Philadelphia for a reunion with Allen Iverson, who is expected to make his 76ers return against his former team.

“If AI plays, it’s going to be a mad house,” Nuggets forward Kenyon Martin said.

Tony Parker scored 15 of his 27 points in the fourth for the Spurs, who lost their second straight. Tim Duncan had 26 points as the Spurs fell to a division leader for the second time in three nights.

San Antonio had held five of its last seven opponents below 90 points, but the NBA’s highest-scoring team presented a tougher challenge. Duncan tried to match Anthony best he could, and shot 10 of 12 from the field.

The Spurs had 19 turnovers and made just 10 field goals in the second half. It was another night of sloppy play for San Antonio, which also committed 19 turnovers on Thursday in on a loss to Boston.

“Way too many,” Spurs guard Manu Ginobili said. “We are a 10 or an eight (turnover team). That’s when we are at our best. A team like (Denver), they’ll punish you.”

Anthony, averaging an NBA-leading 30.4 points per game, remained the NBA’s only player to score at least 20 points in every game this season.

If he does it again Monday at Philadelphia, his streak of 21 straight games will be the most since—guess who—Iverson did it at the start of the 2005-06 season. Iverson was traded to Denver a year later, and he spent nearly two seasons with the Nuggets.

Anthony was 4 of 11 from the field at halftime and finished the game 14 of 27. He also had seven rebounds.

“I just wanted to take my time,” Anthony said. “Some of those things should have went my way in the first half, but it didn’t. I tried not to get frustrated out there.”

Martin had nine points and 13 rebounds and J.R. Smith had 17 points.

Rookie Ty Lawson scored eight of his 11 points in the fourth, when the Nuggets outscored the Spurs 31-23. The Spurs led for virtually the entire game before Smith sank a 3-pointer to open the fourth, giving the Nuggets a 78-76 lead.

Denver gradually found their touch after shooting 37 percent in the first quarter, including a rocky 2-of-7 start for Anthony.

After Philadelphia, the Nuggets will continue their road trip against Charlotte and Detroit—all teams with losing records.

The loss ended a monthlong stand in the Lone Star State for the Spurs, who haven’t left Texas in their last dozen games. San Antonio went 7-5 over that stretch and will go to Utah on Monday for its first road game since Nov. 9.

Ginobili had 14 points for San Antonio, and Richard Jefferson added 10.

NOTES: Spurs F Antonio McDyess has not scored in the last three games. … Spurs F Michael Finley sprained his left ankle in the fourth and did not return. If he misses Monday’s game at Utah, it will be the first time in 335 games that Finley has missed a game to injury. It last happened in November 2005.

[Spurs Brazil]

Spurs F Antonio McDyess has not scored in the last three games

:(

I thought after the Rockets game that he'd keep his game in a high level

[Pauleta14]

I agree with that, maybe TP is thinking too much to get others involved that's why so many TOs

I don't want TP thinking about others, he' not that type of player, I want to see him attacking all the time.

EXACTLY!!!!!

Righ now he is not in EXECUTION mode... he is in "thinking" mode, what to do instead of doing it "without thinking"...

I don't know what Pop is going really... He forgot about making Tony a "classic" PG for years and it worked out for us, and now it seems he wants to insist again...

Tony will NEVER be efficient when he thinks "pass first", he has to execute plays or be agressive toward the rim and in scoring!!

He should only have pick and roll and 3pts plays to do...

[mytespurs]

Not surprised or shocked Spurs lost. They aren't playing well right now and can't seemt to beat the top tier teams.

All we can do is be patient and hope by the time it really matters, the Spurs become the Spurs we think they need to be.

What if...what if this lineup doesn't gell until next season???!!! :wow:wow
This possiblity has crossed the brainwaves more than a few times. Pop may find a line up that works in 2010...now whether all same players are here...that's a different story.

[alchemist]

lol the Mavs were just robbed by the refs...
:lol what happened?

[Pauleta14]

:lol please tell me you're joking. That "rookie" was putting in work on Garnett/Rasheed

Yes, but why now??
Why only 12 min of play and suddenly at that momment??
It looked like a desperate/"genius" move, instead of drawing a 3pt play for ex...

[urunobili]

:lol what happened?

they just lost to the hawks and the refs didn't call a backcourt violation while they were trying to tie it down 3...

[Pauleta14]

Well after being up until 9 am in the morning it's time to get a life (noon in China lol).

Disappointing game but keep believing in our team, Spurs fans! =p

Have a nice day!

It's 5h40 in Paris, I'll soon go to bed :sleep:lol

[urunobili]

240am heading to bed...

[Spurs Brazil]

240am heading to bed...

Good idea

[mytespurs]

Awaiting word from timvp......in all the multiple "Trade Jefferson", "Trade Ginobili" "Fire Pop" "Why is Finley in the game and various numerous doom/gloom threads, it's nice to hear some objective, thoughtout analysis.
It's not as bad as it seems is it???

[Ice009]

Don't know which threads, but I definitely posted about being happy to take Jax back (although I also doubted it would happen since Pop would probably baulk, and we don't hav much the Warriors would want). ;)

As for Manu, I think we can properly assess his health in about 10 games, but we should be quietly feeling out what's availbale for him if, as I suspect, we discover that he has finally lost a step (which would totally hamper his effectiveness) due to all the leg injuries and pounding he has taken over the years.



There was no other player in the backcourt to pass to, and surely calling the timeout in that situation is the inballer's (Tim's) repsonsibility given that TP was running like a bat out of hell trying to get open.

Yeah you may have said that you wouldn't mind Stephen back, but I guess it got lost in the shuffle and I didn't read it. The thing is a lot of people said that RJ is a lot better than SJax and we don't need him. I thought SJax is better, especially for this team, but oh well we got RJ now.

I just want to give Manu some time, but yeah he is not holding up well. Like Pauleta14 said would the Spurs ever trade Manu in the middle of a season?

The thing that makes me think Manu is OK is if you remember the Dallas game at home earlier in the year Manu was driving a lot in the first half of that game, but then in the second half he stopped and let RJ keep going. After the game Manu said in an interview, I don't think this was in print anywhere, just in the interview he said he tweaked his hamstring and was paranoid about sitting out any games so he took it easy for the second half of that game.

It might just be a mental block or him being paranoid like he said after that Dallas game. He doesn't want to get hurt so I think he's not trying as hard to get to the rack. You don't think Pop would have told him to not drive as much do you? I also think him being out of shape and rhythm is effecting his play too.

[Marco]

5h45 in Milan... Bye

[Ice009]

5h45 in Milan... Bye

Hey Marco. Have a great day. Great that you were able to stay up for the game. Disappointing the Spurs played that poorly though.

Maybe someone should remind TP that their a fans in other countries staying up late to watch him play like he used to do when he watched the Bulls. Someone should tell him not to play so sloppy for those fans ;).

[Ice009]

:(

I thought after the Rockets game that he'd keep his game in a high level

He got like 10 minutes the next game though. More of Pops fuck with the guy that is hot and in form rotations.

I seriously say you can again blame Pop for that. How is McDyess supposed to keep it going when he got stuff all court time the next game?

[Ice009]

Btw Tim Duncan is playing great.

I want Tim to get more rings. It really sucks seeing him on a team playing this crappy when he should be the one tying to get a little rest.

[Johnny RIngo]

The spurs FO will NEVER get rid of Manu in the midle on a season!!! never!
It would be such a lack of respect regarding all he gave to the club...

First round exit it is then.

[td4mvp21]

Didn't see the game....I don't even want to know