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picc84
12-05-2009, 10:19 PM
Blazers/Rockets game, he contested a Brooks layup and looked like he messed something up on his knee.

Bad news.

mogrovejo
12-05-2009, 10:21 PM
The saddening silence in the arena is impressive. Here's hoping it's not as serious as it seems.

pauls931
12-05-2009, 10:22 PM
No feed. Did he come down on someone's foot?

Allanon
12-05-2009, 10:22 PM
Dang, I just switched over; that sucks man. They're bring out the "air cast" whatever that is.

picc84
12-05-2009, 10:24 PM
No feed. Did he come down on someone's foot?

Nope. Went up for a block and seemed like it happened in midair.

Allanon
12-05-2009, 10:24 PM
Looks like his knee.

Lars
12-05-2009, 10:24 PM
It didnt look like contact, just an awkward landing. Being stretchered off the court.

picc84
12-05-2009, 10:24 PM
Whoops. Its actually his knee. Worse news than I thought.

mogrovejo
12-05-2009, 10:25 PM
No feed. Did he come down on someone's foot?

Nope. At most he banged knees with Brooks, but that doesn't seem to be the reason. The good news is that it's his left knee, not the right one (where he had the microfracture).

Fpoonsie
12-05-2009, 10:26 PM
Wow.

IronMexican
12-05-2009, 10:27 PM
That really fucking sucks. Was it a freak accident?

The Franchise
12-05-2009, 10:28 PM
It looked like when he planted to go up for the block is when it went out. I hope he's OK.

Def Rowe
12-05-2009, 10:28 PM
I just tuned into the game, couldn't tell who was the guy on the stretcher at first.

I ain't laughing about any injuries to any players. Just looking for a piece of wood to knock on.

lil_penny
12-05-2009, 10:29 PM
Fuck! I'm out of the service area so I'm unable to watch this game tonight..... the bad new just keeps comming for this team as of late.... man I hope its not too serious

pauls931
12-05-2009, 10:29 PM
Hope he does well, it's not like Portland hasn't been through enough already.

JJ Hickson
12-05-2009, 10:30 PM
tlong? Where have you been?






I need to know if this is an issue.

DPG21920
12-05-2009, 10:30 PM
Non-Issue.

baseline bum
12-05-2009, 10:31 PM
Crap. I had such high hopes for Oden entering the league.

Darthkiller
12-05-2009, 10:32 PM
Rudy is injured as well , getting MRI tonight.

DPG21920
12-05-2009, 10:32 PM
My fantasy team is f'd. Oden and Lou Williams and Barbosa.

Allanon
12-05-2009, 10:33 PM
1) It wasn't any freak accident with another player, just him coming down on his own...maybe lost track of how high up he was.

2) He didn't look like he was in any pain when he was on the stretcher, could be just a knee tweak.

flamingdts
12-05-2009, 10:35 PM
They did cover his eyes. It didn't look good.

Pistons < Spurs
12-05-2009, 10:36 PM
My fantasy team is f'd. Oden and Lou Williams and Barbosa.

Me too...

Oden, Blake, Yi, Rip, Speights and T-Mac

DPG21920
12-05-2009, 10:37 PM
It sucks because I really like Oden. He was having a really good year. I truly hope this is nothing serious. Not just because fantasy :lol

DPG21920
12-05-2009, 10:38 PM
Me too...

Oden, Blake, Yi, Rip, Speights and T-Mac

I have Bynum on my team as well. Hope it is not an omen.

pauls931
12-05-2009, 10:39 PM
Guess they'll do the xray thing and report back soon, then MRI during the next day or two? I need to find a replay since it's hard to tell from the descriptions here if it's just a tweak or worse.

Kobe™
12-05-2009, 10:40 PM
Trade him ASAP^^ @ DPG

Reeko_Htown
12-05-2009, 10:43 PM
poor guy

TheProfessor
12-05-2009, 10:44 PM
Could have just been me, but part of his knee looked concave when I saw it, and Oden was writhing on the ground. But he looked fine after the commercial break, no visible pain then.

DPG21920
12-05-2009, 10:44 PM
Trade him ASAP^^ @ DPG

No way. I love Bynum too much to trade him.

noob cake
12-05-2009, 10:45 PM
My fantasy team is f'd. Oden and Lou Williams and Barbosa.

I have Barbosa, Williams, Oden, and Paul....

fml, but I'm first still though! Williams, Barbosa have already been dropped. Hopefully Oden wasn't badly injured, don't really want to drop him.

mogrovejo
12-05-2009, 10:47 PM
Yeah, the knee-cap looked out of place. Maybe it's only a dislocated knee-cap with minor associated trauma.

Lars
12-05-2009, 10:47 PM
@johnhollinger (http://twitter.com/johnhollinger) Irony: Blazers are having 70s night tonight with throwback unis. I don't think they planned on having star center get injured as part of it. 5 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/johnhollinger/status/6389538147)
ouch

iggypop123
12-05-2009, 10:48 PM
only vid avialable. doesnt show him from the begining to see what happneed mid air but shows his pain.

stYZMOvFGcA

TheProfessor
12-05-2009, 10:49 PM
Yeah, the knee-cap looked out of place. Maybe it's only a dislocated knee-cap with minor associated trauma.
Yeah, I'm going to guess dislocated patella. That would explain how it looked initially.

iggypop123
12-05-2009, 10:50 PM
you guys are right in that vid that knee cap dont like right. or it was just the angle

MiamiHeat
12-05-2009, 10:51 PM
the guy is fragile.

bust.

Smooth Criminal
12-05-2009, 10:51 PM
:bang

pauls931
12-05-2009, 10:52 PM
yup knee definitely looked funny. So what the heck is a dislocated knee cap? I can guess the obvious, but I've never heard of it in bball at least put that way.

lil_penny
12-05-2009, 10:54 PM
thanks for posting the vid iggy, damn that looks horrible..... i feel so bad for the guy i hope its nothing too serious, although it looks to be.

iggypop123
12-05-2009, 10:55 PM
yup knee definitely looked funny. So what the heck is a dislocated knee cap? I can guess the obvious, but I've never heard of it in bball at least put that way.

see andrew bynum.

mogrovejo
12-05-2009, 11:07 PM
A dislocated kneecap can be a fairly minor injury or a quite serious one. It can be 4 weeks or season-ending (or, if the patellar tendon was affected and ruptured, even worse).

IIRC, Bynum didn't have surgery and only after some months of treatment they decided to cut down some spurs on his patella that were creating inflamation, right?

Donkeybong
12-05-2009, 11:08 PM
my prayers are with him

Kobe™
12-05-2009, 11:09 PM
Longer Video:
aqxbHAqsHmQ

Smooth Criminal
12-05-2009, 11:09 PM
yup knee definitely looked funny. So what the heck is a dislocated knee cap? I can guess the obvious, but I've never heard of it in bball at least put that way.

Isn't that what happened to Bynum in 08?

iggypop123
12-05-2009, 11:10 PM
the people in the background make a serious situation funny
"this nigga gets hurt every " - "well then retire"

pauls931
12-05-2009, 11:11 PM
damn he dropped like a rock instantly after hitting the ground.

JJ Hickson
12-05-2009, 11:13 PM
Longer Video:
aqxbHAqsHmQ



:lmao @ that video. Not the injury but the domestic dispute.

TheProfessor
12-05-2009, 11:14 PM
A dislocated kneecap can be a fairly minor injury or a quite serious one. It can be 4 weeks or season-ending (or, if the patellar tendon was affected and ruptured, even worse).
Yeesh. Have to lean towards the latter just based on his reaction and how it looked. What a nightmare for Oden.

Donkeybong
12-05-2009, 11:14 PM
bunch of trash in that video. telling his kid to shut the fuck up. That kid is going to have some issues.

Muser
12-05-2009, 11:16 PM
Damn this sucks..:(

LnGrrrR
12-05-2009, 11:16 PM
That's what happens when you're a 60 year old starting center in this league...

Kobe™
12-05-2009, 11:17 PM
Lol I was like WTF are you guys talking about, then I muted my i-Tunes and turned up the YouTube video - Yikes.

urunobili
12-05-2009, 11:18 PM
GWS Greg

Lars
12-05-2009, 11:19 PM
Hollinger: Courtside photog just showed me close-up of Oden kneecap twisted way off to right side. Looks like either a dislocated kneecap or torn quad

djohn2oo8
12-05-2009, 11:20 PM
Holy shit, that dispute was hilarious

lil_penny
12-05-2009, 11:22 PM
damn hella domestic disturbance lol

ffadicted
12-05-2009, 11:22 PM
Wow, this blows for Portland. Hope it's not season ending

And that video = fucking sad sad sad sad (the people in it I mean)

Pistons < Spurs
12-05-2009, 11:22 PM
WojYahooNBA

Prior to MRI, Port front office official tells league source they believe it's a dislocated knee for Oden, but waiting on test results.

Jloyola
12-05-2009, 11:22 PM
This sucks.... i hope Oden is Ok, i was looking forward to the Bynum vs Oden battles....

plus i have Oden on my fantasy team too... i just traded for him

Suprise there hasn't been any Sam Bowie references... only people are smiling right now are
owners of the Thunder..

Pistons < Spurs
12-05-2009, 11:22 PM
WojYahooNBA

Oden is getting MRI done now.

Lars
12-05-2009, 11:23 PM
How serious is a dislocated knee?

Lars
12-05-2009, 11:23 PM
Hollinger: No date for surgery yet. Repeat, Oden, fractured left patella, likely out for year.

Muser
12-05-2009, 11:23 PM
Looks like Oden will be put into the "If only..." pile.

Muser
12-05-2009, 11:24 PM
Hollinger: No date for surgery yet. Repeat, Oden, fractured left patella, likely out for year.

:wow

:depressed

Pistons < Spurs
12-05-2009, 11:24 PM
WojYahooNBA

Blazers PR is now reporting it's far worse than they originally feared: Fractured left patella for Oden. That could be a season-ender.

Donkeybong
12-05-2009, 11:25 PM
Hollinger: No date for surgery yet. Repeat, Oden, fractured left patella, likely out for year.

wow, that's a shame.

Leetonidas
12-05-2009, 11:26 PM
Yeah, Oden is done for the season. That's it for Portland.

Pistons < Spurs
12-05-2009, 11:27 PM
At the 7:45 mark of the first quarter of tonight's Blazers vs. Rockets game, Blazers center Greg Oden injured his left knee while contesting a runner by Rockets guard Aaron Brooks. Oden came to the ground clutching his left knee and was writhing in pain.

Immediately Rockets training staff came to Oden's attention and, soon after, Blazers staff, including Blazers' team doctor, Doctor Roberts, came to his side. A towel was used to cushion his head against the court floor. The Rose Garden crowd briefly chanted "Oden! Oden!" in support but then came to a quiet hush as Oden continued to lay on the ground.

The Blazers took a full timeout and a stretcher was called in to transport Oden off the court. Joel Przybilla replaced Oden in the game.

Oden had microfracture surgery on his right knee that caused him to miss the 2007-2008 season. Again, the injury tonight was suffered on his left knee.

As of now (7:31PM), Oden is in the Blazers locker room. Further information should be available shortly.

Update (7:52PM): Brian T. Smith of The Columbian just told me that, according to two sources close to the situation, Greg Oden has been taken to the Rebound Clinic and will undergo an MRI on his left knee. Here's a link to Smith's blog. Give it a click in appreciation of that information.

Update (8:14PM): Joe Freeman of The Oregonian has posted an update that includes another picture of Oden taken by Bruce Ely.

Update (8:17PM): Jeff Green of the Oklahoma City "Thunder" passes along his well wishes.

Can everyone say a prayer for my boy Greg Oden and hope he has a speedy recovery please THANK YOU

John Hollinger tweets...

Courtside photog just showed me close-up of Oden kneecap twisted way off to right side. Looks like either a dislocated kneecap or torn quad

I've seen similar pictures. I don't want to speculate but it did look gruesome.

Update (8:23pm): The Blazers have informed the media assembled in the Rose Garden that an MRI revealed that Greg Oden suffered a fractured left patella and is "likely out for the season." Blazers General Manager Kevin Pritchard will address the media after the game.http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/12/5/1187457/breaking-news-greg-oden-leaves

iggypop123
12-05-2009, 11:27 PM
wow dislocated would have been desirable. sad story, too bad espn is doing crazy CF coverage they dont even bother offering updates

ffadicted
12-05-2009, 11:27 PM
Hollinger: No date for surgery yet. Repeat, Oden, fractured left patella, likely out for year.

The Thunder must be really glad right now that Portland made that pick lol

Terrible news for Oden and the Blazers :(

HarlemHeat37
12-05-2009, 11:28 PM
Oden out for the year..right when he's starting to play well..

What a blow to Portland and to the league in general..

He seems like a good guy too, fucking sucks..also a lot of class shown by some idiots in this thread, as usual..

iggypop123
12-05-2009, 11:29 PM
his knee def aint right. i am not posting the link cause its nasty so be warned dont click on link unless you want to see the knee

http://media.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/photo/greg-odenjpg-b860a6ea32e477ae.jpg

Lars
12-05-2009, 11:30 PM
Rockets trainers on the floor before the Blazers LOL

Muser
12-05-2009, 11:30 PM
Oh shit, that looks freakin nasty.

ffadicted
12-05-2009, 11:31 PM
his knee def aint right. i am not posting the link cause its nasty so be warned dont click on link unless you want to see the knee

http://media.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/photo/greg-odenjpg-b860a6ea32e477ae.jpg

:wow:wow

pauls931
12-05-2009, 11:32 PM
Damn, poor fella. Seems like drafting a center witjh a high pick is about the riskiest thing you can do in the NBA.

Leetonidas
12-05-2009, 11:33 PM
Honestly, you gotta feel bad for the dude. Poor kid man, he was really coming into his own. Why can't this shit happen to Kevin Garnett or some other cock sucker?

KSeal
12-05-2009, 11:34 PM
Ugh, that fucking sucks. Poor guy.

Chomag
12-05-2009, 11:34 PM
Damn, Well gotta admit he lasted alot longer then I thought he would.

duncan228
12-05-2009, 11:38 PM
Damn. Wish him the best.

CubanMustGo
12-05-2009, 11:45 PM
Talk about a team that has no luck:


The Blazers have been beset by injuries. Starting forward Nicolas Batum needed shoulder surgery just before the opener. Fellow forward Travis Outlaw fractured his foot in mid-November and required surgery.

Forward Rudy Fernandez was out of Saturday night's game with sciatic pain and set to undergo an MRI. It was uncertain if he would be with the team on an upcoming four-game road trip starting with the Knicks on Monday.

Even coach Nate McMillan was set to undergo surgery Monday after rupturing his right Achilles' tendon during practice.

The coach was participating in practice because the team is so short-handed. He will miss the team's upcoming road trip, replaced by assistant coach Dean Demopoulos,

iggypop123
12-05-2009, 11:57 PM
dont they have a lot of those first rounders in europe? cant they just call in a guy to play?

ynh
12-05-2009, 11:57 PM
Sucks.. I'm not a Portland fan but I live in Indy and have been rooting for him and all indianapolis players to do great.. I hate to see this happen. Great guy if you ever met him.

mogrovejo
12-05-2009, 11:58 PM
^^Add Patrick Mills with a fracture foot and Pendergraph with hip surgery. And Maurice Lucas (coach) and Paul Allen (owner) both have cancer.

Weird.

slick'81
12-06-2009, 12:00 AM
oden just seems snake bit what a tough blow for a young player who was starting to turn the corner

picc84
12-06-2009, 12:05 AM
Thats completely fucked up.

He's a good kid. You know he feels like he's letting everyone down. Probably feels worse for the city and org. than for himself.

DPG21920
12-06-2009, 12:12 AM
I want to murder parents that act like that around kids. Great parenting.

redzero
12-06-2009, 12:17 AM
lol at the happy music on NBA.com's first half preview of the game.

The Gemini Method
12-06-2009, 12:23 AM
Tough to find any positives to say when something horrible befells a player with so much promise. I feel for Greg Oden and the anguish he is likely going through. Hopefully we will get to see a season in which both Bynum and Oden stay healthy and do battle.

Pistons < Spurs
12-06-2009, 12:39 AM
Oden" "I'm obviously disappointed having worked so hard to get to where I was," said Greg Oden. " This is a setback, but I'll be back."

"It's in God's hands now. I want to thank the fans, my teammates and everyone in the Blazers family for all of their good thoughts."

Xevious
12-06-2009, 12:46 AM
It's one thing after another... I feel sorry for him. What an unfortunate way to start a career for somebody with such high hopes riding on him. Hopefully he's able to rebound and have a complete season at some point.

Scola
12-06-2009, 01:21 AM
Oden likely done with fractured patella
PORTLAND, Ore. -- Portland Trail Blazers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=por) center Greg Oden (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=3225) will likely miss the rest of the season after fracturing his left knee cap against Houston on Saturday night. Oden will undergo surgery, the Trail Blazers said.

The 7-foot center dropped to the floor clutching his left knee and grimacing after colliding with a driving Aaron Brooks (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=3192) midway through the first quarter.
He was almost immediately surrounded by trainers and physicians. The crowd at the Rose Garden stood and chanted "Oden! Oden!"
The game was stopped for some 7 minutes. Finally, Oden was gently moved to a stretcher and wheeled from the court. He underwent an MRI shortly thereafter. "I'm obviously disappointed having worked so hard to get to where I was. This is a setback but I'll be back. It's in God's hands now," the statement said. "I want to thank the fans, my teammates and everyone in the Blazers family for all of their good thoughts."

Oden, the No. 1 pick in the 2007 NBA draft out of Ohio State, has been plagued by injures for his entire NBA career.
The 7-footer missed rookie season after undergoing microfracture surgery on his right knee. Last season, Oden sat out six games after injuring his right foot in the season opener against the Lakers, then missed 14 games after the All-Star break with a bone chip in his left knee. He finished the season averaging 8.9 points and 7 rebounds.
Oden lost weight during the offseason and was averaging 11.7 points and 8.8 rebounds this season as a starter.

The Blazers have been beset by injuries. Starting forward Nicolas Batum (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=3416) needed shoulder surgery just before the opener. Fellow forward Travis Outlaw (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=2015) fractured his foot in mid-November and required surgery. Forward Rudy Fernandez (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=3204) was out of Saturday night's game with sciatic pain and set to undergo an MRI. It was uncertain if he would be with the team on an upcoming four-game road trip starting with the Knicks on Monday.
Even coach Nate McMillan (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=2679) was set to undergo surgery Monday after rupturing his right Achilles' tendon during practice. The coach was participating in practice because the team is so short-handed. He will miss the team's upcoming road trip, replaced by assistant coach Dean Demopoulos.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4717884

Killakobe81
12-06-2009, 01:27 AM
The lack of quality big men is alarming in the NBA get well Oden Blazer fans, NBa fasn and fantsy junkies will miss you!

DJB
12-06-2009, 01:28 AM
non issue

mystargtr34
12-06-2009, 02:10 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/gallery#photoViewer=urn%3Anewsml%3Asports.yahoo%2C getty%3A20050301%3Anba%2Cphoto%2C37a2835ca1798bfad c77a0d55d4cab6a-getty-90041165cb013_rockets_blazers%3A1

Another angle

noob cake
12-06-2009, 02:15 AM
Honestly, you gotta feel bad for the dude. Poor kid man, he was really coming into his own. Why can't this shit happen to Kevin Garnett or some other cock sucker?

:ihit

Agree

sabar
12-06-2009, 03:30 AM
It sucks when players finally make it to the league and become injury-plagued glass-men. It sucks for the player, for the owners, for the league, and for the fans.

FkLA
12-06-2009, 03:40 AM
Fuck poor guy. Isnt a patella injury the same thing that happened to Livingston? We know Livingston was never the same player after that so good luck to Oden in his recovery.

sook
12-06-2009, 03:47 AM
it really isn't fair...Yao...Oden.

Man fuck, he was actually doing good even though i make fun of him all the time.

duncan228
12-06-2009, 04:28 AM
Blazers’ Oden expected to miss rest of season (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-trailblazers-odeninjured&prov=ap&type=lgns)

Portland center Greg Oden will likely miss the rest of the season after fracturing his left knee cap Saturday night in the Trail Blazers’ victory over the Houston Rockets.

“He’s a strong kid,” said general manager Kevin Pritchard, visibly shaken by the latest injury to befall the 7-foot center. “He’s going to bounce back from this.”

Oden dropped to the floor clutching his left knee and grimacing after colliding with a driving Aaron Brooks midway through the first quarter.

Oden was almost immediately surrounded by trainers and physicians. The crowd at the Rose Garden stood and chanted “Oden! Oden!”

The game was stopped for some 7 minutes. Finally, Oden was gently moved to a stretcher and wheeled from the court. He underwent an MRI shortly thereafter.

The Blazers said Oden will need surgery. A timetable for his return was not immediately set.

“I’m obviously disappointed having worked so hard to get to where I was. This is a setback but I’ll be back. It’s in God’s hands now,” Oden said in a statement released by the team. “I want to thank the fans, my teammates and everyone in the Blazers family for all of their good thoughts.”

Oden, the No. 1 pick in the 2007 NBA draft out of Ohio State, has been plagued by injures his entire NBA career.

The 7-footer missed rookie season after undergoing microfracture surgery on his right knee. Last season, Oden sat out six games after injuring his right foot in the season opener against the Lakers, then missed 14 games after the All-Star break with a bone chip in his left knee. He finished the season averaging 8.9 points and 7 rebounds.

Oden lost weight during the offseason and was averaging 11.7 points and 8.8 rebounds this season as a starter.

“I thought he was the most consistent player this short season,” coach Nate McMillan said. “For him to go through this—it’s just unfortunate for him because he worked so hard.”

Blazers guard Brandon Roy said Oden spoke to the team at halftime, after he had learned of the diagnosis.

“He told us to keep fighting,” Roy said. “He feels like he’s letting us down.”

Portland went on to edge the Rockets 90-89, snapping a three-game losing streak. But Oden’s injury felt like a “punch in the gut,” Pritchard said.

The Blazers have been beset by injuries. Starting forward Nicolas Batum needed shoulder surgery just before the opener. Fellow forward Travis Outlaw fractured his foot in mid-November and required surgery.

Forward Rudy Fernandez was out of Saturday night’s game with sciatic pain and set to undergo an MRI. It was uncertain if he would be with the team on an upcoming four-game trip starting with the Knicks on Monday night.

Even McMillan was set to undergo surgery Monday after rupturing his right Achilles’ tendon during practice.

The coach was participating in practice because the team is so short-handed. He will miss the team’s upcoming road trip, replaced by assistant coach Dean Demopoulos.

Tmac&Luther
12-06-2009, 04:39 AM
Rockets trainers on the floor before the Blazers LOL

LOL :lol, Houston's trainers are like a well oiled machine when it comes to running out on the floor to a injured player. They have so much experience with this crap, they could probably hear the bone break before Oden even hit the deck.

HarlemHeat37
12-06-2009, 04:41 AM
That's true, Houston has some horrible luck with injuries too, they're always 1 top guy away..

McGrady, Cook and Scola's reactions are telling too..

KSeal
12-06-2009, 04:50 AM
Honestly, you gotta feel bad for the dude. Poor kid man, he was really coming into his own. Why can't this shit happen to Kevin Garnett or some other cock sucker?

It did, last year.

Ice009
12-06-2009, 05:00 AM
it did, last year.

LOL

I guess he forgot.

Allanon
12-06-2009, 05:07 AM
Fuck poor guy. Isnt a patella injury the same thing that happened to Livingston? We know Livingston was never the same player after that so good luck to Oden in his recovery.

Livingston was an extreme case. He messed up almost all parts of the knee.

- Dislocated patella
- Torn ACL
- Torn PCL
- Torn Lateral miniscus (like Bynum last year I think)
- Sprained MCL

Multiple knee injuries resulting in his leg bending laterally.

Thankfully, I think Oden is just a fracture from what I've read.

KSeal
12-06-2009, 05:17 AM
I'm pretty sure Bynum had a tear of the MCL last year.

Kamnik
12-06-2009, 06:44 AM
I seriously feel bad for the guy..... :(((

Get well!

MiamiHeat
12-06-2009, 07:46 AM
so

in 3 seasons

Oden has played a total of about 40 games out of 246 games

Culburn369
12-06-2009, 07:50 AM
Everybody feels sorry for this guy, but, when Bynum gets hurt it's a lot of snickers & guffaws. What a hoot.

balli
12-06-2009, 09:48 AM
Oden should just retire. Screw even trying to come back. He should take what money he has and walk away. Buy some real estate and spend the rest of his life on a beach somewhere.

Even if he makes it back, is there any doubt that he'd just get jacked up again. In short order.

pauls931
12-06-2009, 10:06 AM
It does make you wonder how Portland is going to salvage this. How much is he currently costing them?

Indazone
12-06-2009, 12:53 PM
Greg Oden is just brittle.. the old man started in high school when he had to have surgery on his wrist.

Culburn369
12-06-2009, 12:59 PM
There but by the grace of God almighty goes each of our boys.

Bynum is severely knock kneed and at precarious risk for catastrophe.

duncan228
12-06-2009, 01:09 PM
Where to now for Portland? (http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/11262/not-again-oden-out-for-year)
By John Hollinger

PORTLAND -- It was perhaps the ultimate irony: On a night where the Blazers wore their retro uniforms from the 1970s, their star center fell to a season-ending injury. As it was with Bill Walton and Sam Bowie, so it goes with Greg Oden. The Blazers' big man suffered his second season-ending knee injury in three pro seasons, fracturing his left patella in the first quarter of the Blazers' 90-89 win over Houston tonight.

Yet it was another retro -- back to the halcyon days of 2008-09 -- that may be the ultimate takeaway from tonight’s game, and it leads me to a significant silver lining in this cloud.

More on that in a minute, but first let’s get to the main story. Yes, we can officially say Greg Oden is injury-prone. By the end of this year, Oden will have played 82 of a possible 246 games since Portland took him with the first overall pick in 2007. While broken bones are rarely career-altering, this injury is franchise-altering in the sense that it seems a pipe dream for the Blazers to count on Oden going forward. They can take his contributions as gravy if he’s healthy, but they can’t build a team around him.

His latest setback appeared to happen without any contact: He planted both feet to block a shot by a driving Aaron Brooks, and his left knee simply gave way as he went up. Brooks lofted in a bank shot while Oden grimaced and began to clutch his knee while still in mid-air. Photographs in the immediate aftermath showed his kneecap displaced several inches down and to the right from where one normally expects a kneecap to reside.

All this seems horribly unfair to Oden, a gentle giant who, as general manager Kevin Pritchard somberly noted afterward, had worked so hard to come back from his first knee injury. Oden felt bad enough that Brandon Roy said, "He looked at me and he was like, 'Sorry,' and put his head down." He also was asking for score updates while being carted off for his MRI.

In a roundabout way, it's unfair to Pritchard too. I know what you’re all thinking, so before we go any further: All you second-guessers out there, just stop it. All 30 NBA general managers were prepared to take Greg Oden over Kevin Durant. All of them. There wasn't even any question about it. One can fairly ask whether this consensus was borne more of the hope that infects every personnel evaluator upon seeing a talented 7-footer than of common sense. That said, it's hard to single out a front office for doing what everybody else would have done too.

A more salient point is how Oden's injury puts the rest of Portland's season in a much different light. As Blazers coach Nate McMillan noted, Oden had been the team’s most consistent performer in what had otherwise been a largely disappointing season for Portland.

“This is a setback,” stated Pritchard, and it’s one that leaves him running low on players. With Travis Outlaw slated to miss most of the year with broken foot, Nicolas Batum still out, and Rudy Fernandez (sciatic pain) the second-most prominent addition to the injury list tonight, a Blazers team that began the year wondering how to allot minutes among so many talented players suddenly finds itself playing with a skeleton crew.

Little-used subs like Jerryd Bayless, Dante Cunningham and Juwan Howard all saw extensive action on Saturday night. With rookies Paddy Mills and Jeff Pendergraph also hurt and the maximum 15 players under contract, the Blazers will have only nine healthy players until Fernandez comes back (he had an MRI Saturday night and the results were not available).

Pritchard dryly noted that the league doesn’t allow injury exemptions until a team is down to seven healthy players, and that he wasn’t rooting for two more injuries. But he admitted it may be time to look at roster moves to bring in reinforcements.

A trade is one possibility, especially one that uses the expiring contract of Outlaw. Another is to cut Mills and sign a “stretch 4” from among the league’s waiver-wire flotsam, since that spot is the most glaring roster need at the moment.

But in a weird way, Oden's injury takes some of the heat off a Blazer team that was visibly pressing, and off a front office that may have felt pressured to do something rash. Expectations bred by last year's 54-win season had caught up with this team, and with Oden's injury they can get back to relaxing and playing basketball without feeling like they need to win every game by 20 points.

They could also get back to playing a similar style to a year ago, when Joel Przybilla started at center and Oden came off the bench. I mentioned to Roy that tonight’s game was the first one of this year that felt like last season's games, and he didn’t disagree. McMillan made similar comments in his postgame press conference, admiring his team’s cohesiveness and scrappiness in rallying to beat the Rockets.

For whatever reason, the guards had a much easier time than in other Blazer games this season. Andre Miller -- the official scapegoat of the 2009-10 Blazers -- had his best game in a Portland uniform with a season-high 24 points, leading a third-quarter rally that got Portland back in the game, while Bayless needed only six shots to score 13.

Roy also seemed more comfortable with the added driving lanes created by not having Oden in the post. Tonight he scored 28 points on just 15 shots, the first time he'd scored more than 20 points while making at least half his shots in nearly a month and only the fourth all season. Three times in the last minute he scored on the type of 1-4 isolations plays that he killed opponents with last season, including the game-winner with 3.0 seconds left.

I’m not sure this just a coincidence. If one looks at the results of the Blazers’ five-man units a year ago, the starters tended to play much better with Przybilla, and the subs much better with Oden. While much of the focus has been on Roy’s inability to pair with Miller in the backcourt, it appears that attention may have been misplaced and glossed over a bigger story -- the inability of either of them to play with Oden. This isn’t a knock on Oden, as McMillan was correct in noting how well he’s played. But the pieces don’t fit together smoothly, at least yet.

Because of that, I don’t think this injury is the death knell that some suspect. Oden was playing extremely well, but if Roy and Miller revert to their long-term averages in his absence, it will offset the loss.

That said, the Blazers face a difficult road to the postseason now, something that seemed all but assured at the start of the season. Their once-formidable depth now is more a liability than strength, with the frontcourt in particular looking thin. For instance, when they signed Juwan Howard this summer I don’t think the idea was for him to be the first big off the bench.

Oddly enough, then, Oden’s is a franchise-altering injury, but I’m not sure it’s a season-altering one. Tonight’s game leaves me with the sneaking suspicion that Portland will continue more or less on its previous trajectory toward a low playoff seed. That would have been a huge disappointment with a healthy Oden; it now will likely be seen as a pleasant surprise.

Indazone
12-06-2009, 01:19 PM
Welcome to our world Blazerfans.
:lol

Culburn369
12-06-2009, 01:23 PM
Nice and warm and cozy bent put on by Hollinger. The clarity is just adorable.

F'k him.

SenorSpur
12-06-2009, 01:23 PM
You can't help but feel sorry for the poor guy. He's a talented and sensitve kid, who wants desparately to live up to the expectations placed on him. This really sucks for him.

Portland's history with big men, who were drafted number one overall draft, isn't exactly warm-n-fuzzy:

LaRue Martin - (1972 -1976)
Bill Walton - (1974 -1978) - Won 1978 NBA Championship
Sam Bowie - (1984 -1989)
Greg Oden - (2007 - )

Could there actually be some validity to the rumored "Portland Big Man Curse"?

LnGrrrR
12-06-2009, 01:50 PM
Everybody feels sorry for this guy, but, when Bynum gets hurt it's a lot of snickers & guffaws. What a hoot.

No sympathy on my part. That's what happens when you're a senior citizen.

boutons_deux
12-06-2009, 02:00 PM
Stupid that knee pads are considered not cool, or for whatever stupid reason players with a history of knee injuries don't wear them.

Venti Quattro
12-06-2009, 02:03 PM
Could a knee brace have avoided this injury? I really feel bad for Oden.

pauls931
12-06-2009, 02:05 PM
Oden felt bad enough that Brandon Roy said, "He looked at me and he was like, 'Sorry,' and put his head down." He also was asking for score updates while being carted off for his MRI.

Damn... Poor SOB...

iggypop123
12-06-2009, 02:05 PM
sabonis was fine. he just was here past his prime

Culburn369
12-06-2009, 02:32 PM
& those little titties.^

ducks
12-06-2009, 02:43 PM
I never thought oden was all that
he has always been injury prone
he could not even stay healthy in colledge
what makes people think he could in nba amazes me
oh and how many games has durant missed blazer fans

ducks
12-06-2009, 02:44 PM
Stupid that knee pads are considered not cool, or for whatever stupid reason players with a history of knee injuries don't wear them.

oden has no brains

djohn2oo8
12-06-2009, 02:44 PM
Welcome to our world Blazerfans.
:lol

The Rockets' disease is spreading:wow

ducks
12-06-2009, 02:44 PM
I seriously feel bad for the guy..... :(((

Get well!

I do but not what is in his bank account

LakerLanny
12-06-2009, 02:49 PM
Sam Bowie 2.0

Dex
12-06-2009, 03:01 PM
Ok, this might be an issue.

Terrible luck. I've joked about Oden being a china doll as much as anybody else, but you never wish any ill will against the guy. Here's hoping he has a speedy recovery and is able to come back strong.

That being said, I think the last article nails it. The writing is on the wall. You just can't depend on Oden enough to make him a franchise centerpiece.

If it makes you Blazer fans feel any better, many of us Spur fans are currently having the same doubts about Manu.

Mori Chu
12-06-2009, 03:18 PM
If it makes you Blazer fans feel any better, many of us Spur fans are currently having the same doubts about Manu.

Yeah well, at least Rogaine boy had the decency to deliver ya 3 titles before going gimpy. And he can still play, he's just not 100%. Apples and rotten oranges.

Dex
12-06-2009, 03:33 PM
Yeah well, at least Rogaine boy had the decency to deliver ya 3 titles before going gimpy. And he can still play, he's just not 100%. Apples and rotten oranges.

NBA Rule No. 12, Section VII.c.

iggypop123
12-06-2009, 05:10 PM
at least they dont have to worry about a long extension in the future

Culburn369
12-06-2009, 05:16 PM
Yeah well, at least Rogaine boy had the decency to deliver ya 3 titles before going gimpy. And he can still play, he's just not 100%. Apples and rotten oranges.

What's alarming is his downfall in mental mistakes. Though it could be attributed to him perhaps peeking thru Google about the affects of rabies death. That's enough to scare the shit outta anybody.

Scola
12-06-2009, 05:18 PM
It does make you wonder how Portland is going to salvage this. How much is he currently costing them?

He should still be on his rookie contract so not much, probably 3-4 mil. It would of been worse if he had signed his first real contract and then gone down.

pauls931
12-06-2009, 05:20 PM
He should still be on his rookie contract so not much, probably 3-4 mil. It would of been worse if he had signed his first real contract and then gone down.

Looks like the only positive here (for Portland). Teams are going to be worried about giving the guy a big contract now.

duncan228
12-06-2009, 06:53 PM
Updated.

Oden tells teammates to keep fighting without him (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-trailblazers-oden&prov=ap&type=lgns)
By Anne M. Peterson

In an instant, the fire in Greg Oden’s eyes was gone. As he was taken from the Rose Garden floor on a stretcher, defeat was written all over the 7-foot center’s face.

Oden broke his left kneecap in the Trail Blazers’ game Saturday night against the Houston Rockets and is likely out for the season.

It is the latest injury to befall the No. 1 overall draft pick in 2007, who some have compared to Sam Bowie, the often-injured big man the Blazers selected ahead of Michael Jordan in the 1984 draft.

Brandon Roy said that Oden apologized and bowed his head as he was wheeled off the court. Once he learned his diagnosis, Oden told his teammates in the locker room he was sorry he let them down.

“He didn’t do anything,” forward LaMarcus Aldridge protested. “People don’t understand that injuries are part of the game. We all are at risk every time we play so I think injuries are going to happen. It’s unfortunate that it’s happened to him.”

The Blazers said Oden will need surgery. A timetable for his return was not immediately set.

“I’m obviously disappointed having worked so hard to get to where I was. This is a setback but I’ll be back. It’s in God’s hands now,” Oden said in a statement released by the team. “I want to thank the fans, my teammates and everyone in the Blazers family for all of their good thoughts.”

Oden, drafted ahead of Kevin Durant, has been plagued by injures his entire NBA career.

He missed rookie season after undergoing microfracture surgery on his right knee. Then last season he sat out six games after injuring his right foot in the season opener against the Lakers, before missing 14 games after the All-Star break with a bone chip in his left knee. He finished the season averaging 8.9 points and 7 rebounds.

But this season Oden lost weight and was averaging 11.7 points and 8.8 rebounds as a starter. He had a renewed confidence that was seldom evident in his delayed rookie season, when he admitted the pressure of being a top draft pick got to him.

“He did all the things he needed to do this summer to get himself ready for this year. He came back and showed the potential we felt he had,” coach Nate McMillan said.

The Blazers have not historically had the best of luck with their high-profile big men.

Bowie is considered one of the biggest busts in draft history, fairly or unfairly. The Blazers took the 7-1 center with the No. 2 overall pick instead of Jordan.

While Bowie played in 76 games his rookie season, averaging 10 points and 8.6 rebounds, he appeared in just 63 games over the next four seasons because of injuries. He missed the entire 1987-88 season. In all, he had five operations on his legs.

Then there was Bill Walton, the No. 1 overall draft pick in 1974 who, like Oden, was hailed as a franchise player. But his first two seasons were beset by injury, with a broken nose, leg, foot and wrist.

Walton’s legacy was turned around in the 1976-77 season when the Blazers won the title in their first trip to the postseason, with Walton the MVP of the finals.

Blazers general manager Kevin Pritchard said Saturday night he was just trying to get over Oden’s latest injury, but added he may soon have to look for help for the Blazers.

“The challenging part for me is sometimes life’s not fair, you know? I’ve seen this kid work his tail off. He has put in the work. He has done absolutely everything we’ve ever asked him to do, and more,” Pritchard said.

The Blazers have been beset by injuries. Starting forward Nicolas Batum needed shoulder surgery just before the opener. Fellow forward Travis Outlaw fractured his foot in mid-November and required surgery. Rookies Patty Mills and Jeff Pendergraph have both started the season on the injured list.

Forward Rudy Fernandez was out of Saturday night’s game with sciatic pain and set to undergo an MRI. It was uncertain if he would be with the team on an upcoming four-game trip starting with the Knicks on Monday night.

Even McMillan was set to undergo surgery Monday after rupturing his right Achilles’ tendon during practice.

The coach was participating in practice because the team is so short-handed. He will miss the team’s upcoming road trip, replaced by assistant coach Dean Demopoulos.

If Fernandez doesn’t make the trip, it’s likely the Blazers will only have nine healthy players.

Blazers owner Paul Allen, who himself is battling non-Hodgkins lymphoma, spoke to Oden, telling him to “hang in there.”

“That’s the kind of thing you certainly hope doesn’t happen,” Allen said. “Greg was just really starting to come into his own. Hopefully they’ll be able to repair the kneecap and he’ll be in good shape.”

iggypop123
12-06-2009, 08:35 PM
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duncan228
12-06-2009, 09:16 PM
Oden underwent surgery on his left patella Sunday, and the Blazers confirmed what they feared all along—that Oden was done for the season.

MarCowMar
12-06-2009, 09:24 PM
He's such a good kid. Hopefully he doesn't let these injuries get to him; having this happen year after year after so much hard work must be devastating. Best wishes to him.

TIMMYD!
12-06-2009, 10:06 PM
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WTF is this supposed to be? :lol

iggypop123
12-06-2009, 10:26 PM
WTF is this supposed to be? :lol

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