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duncan228
12-06-2009, 01:09 AM
Spurs can't overcome 19 turnovers in loss (http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/Spurs_cant_overcome_19_turnovers_in_loss.html)
Mike Monroe

An hour before his Spurs took the court Saturday night against the Denver Nuggets at the AT&T Center, Gregg Popovich ticked off the priorities his team needed to avoid a second straight loss to one of the NBA's best teams.

“If we're doing good at the defensive end in transition and hitting the boards pretty well, then it's anybody's game,” Popovich said. “Then it comes down to, hopefully, we don't shoot 2 for 16 from three and miss 10 of 17 from the free-throw line.”

The Spurs had one of their better foul-shooting games of the season, making 26 of 31 (83.9 percent). They were respectable from long range, making 7 of 21 3-pointers.

They played tough, aggressive defense, and though they were outrebounded 38-31, they nearly matched Denver in second-chance points.

What could have gone so wrong for the Spurs to suffer a 106-99 loss, their second in a row and fourth at home this season?

That the Spurs' coach forgot to include turnovers in his pregame checklist may have been a Freudian slip.

Eighteen of those had helped doom Popovich's team in a Thursday loss to the Celtics, just as surely as inaccuracy from the 3-point and free-throw lines.

He got a reminder against the Nuggets of the importance of taking care of the basketball. Denver scored 23 points off the Spurs' 19 turnovers, the most critical factor in the Nuggets' victory.

“In some ways, it looked like a repeat of the Boston game,” Popovich said. “I was really pleased with the aggressiveness and hustle, but again it was the turnovers, for however many points, that was the killer.”

The Spurs' five-game win streak, ended by the Celtics, seems a distant memory for a team that is 9-8 and headed to a Monday appointment in Salt Lake City with the Utah Jazz, who already have beaten the Spurs twice this season.

There was some old-fashioned misfortune involved in this loss, too.

Trailing 103-99 with 1:26 left, the Spurs forced an off-balance 3-point attempt by Carmelo Anthony that just beat the 24-second shot clock buzzer.

Anthony, who scored 34 points, missed badly, the ball bouncing high off the left side of the rim to a spot where three Spurs — Tim Duncan, Matt Bonner and Tony Parker — converged on the ball, without a Nuggets player in sight.

Somehow, the ball bounced out of the grasp of the three Spurs, back out to Anthony. That allowed the Nuggets to kill another 20 important seconds.

“Miscommunications,” said Parker, “and some bad luck.”

“Stuff happens,” Duncan said. “Just adding on to what's going on right now. Just a bad play.”

Still, turnovers sealed the Spurs' fate on this night, and Denver deserved credit for forcing many of them with aggressive double-teams on Duncan, Parker and Manu Ginobili.

“In the second half, our defense tuned in,” said Nuggets coach George Karl. “Parker didn't have as much freedom as he did in the first half. We got our hands on a lot of balls, got a lot of deflections. When Parker and Duncan had the ball, we gave them both two guys and kept our hands active.”

The Nuggets' active hands resulted in six Parker turnovers and two from Duncan.

“I don't have an answer,” Duncan said. “It's happening. It's the reason we're losing these games. Defensively, we're actually playing good, but you turn the ball over and you give them another 10 to 15 opportunities to score the ball, eventually, they're going to do it.

“That's out main problem right now.”

Anthony was problem enough, without the additional opportunities. The league scoring leader made only 4 of 11 shots in the first half, but was 10 of 16 in the second, including plenty of makes on well-defended possessions.

“He's rolling right now, playing some of the best basketball I've seen him play, and I grew up with 'Melo,” said Keith Bogans, the Spurs' defensive specialist who had first crack at slowing Anthony. “He makes shots most guys don't even think about making.”

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Danny.Zhu
12-06-2009, 01:46 AM
Who is covering Anthony tonight? Keith or Richard?

ElNono
12-06-2009, 01:51 AM
Who is covering Anthony tonight? Keith or Richard?

Bogans, RJ and Finley.

The Truth #6
12-06-2009, 01:57 AM
I would imagine a lot of our turnovers are going to be blamed on the instability of the team trying to accomodate all the new players. Actually, I think the veterans are more to blame than the new guys. Manu and Tony are just giving the ball away and I'm not sure it's because of the new players. The vets (other than Tim) are showing a lot of rust.

SenorSpur
12-06-2009, 02:09 AM
The excessive turnovers that plague this team are absolutely uncalled for. Many of these turnovers are the result of careless, dumb decisions on the part of the players. This IS NOT a young team or a team of rookies. There is absolutely no excuse for it. They should make smarter plays than they do.

lefty
12-06-2009, 02:10 AM
Pop must be delighted

Ice009
12-06-2009, 02:22 AM
Pop must be delighted

Stop playing Matt Bonner then and start playing the guys that need to get chemistry with each other.

SenorSpur
12-06-2009, 02:31 AM
Another thing that amazes me is that players on this team make diffiucult and sometimes nonsensical passes. Passes that are too high, too low, too wide or too long. Passes that would require soime degree of athleticism to catch. The problem ia there are very few natural athletes on the team that can catch them.

DJB
12-06-2009, 02:31 AM
Why does everyone say we're playing great defense when a team drops 106 on us?

duncan228
12-06-2009, 02:48 AM
The other side.

Nuggets win at Spurs (http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_13937274)
By Chris Dempsey
The Denver Post

SAN ANTONIO — December figures to provide some clarity regarding the Nuggets' place among the best teams in the Western Conference.

Games against Phoenix, Houston, Portland and Dallas — all among the top eight in the west — are on the docket. Saturday, the Nuggets started this month of answers in San Antonio, and were pleased with the result — a 106-99 win over San Antonio at the AT&T Center.

With the win, the Nuggets stopped a two-game road losing streak and began to find answers as to how to consistently be successful. In order those would be: defense, execution and a healthy dose of Carmelo Anthony.

Carmelo Anthony, newly minted as the Western Conference player of the month, was brilliant all night but especially in the third quarter where he scored 14 points. The Nuggets, down by six at the start of the third quarter, ended it down just one 76-75.

J.R. Smith gave the Nuggets their first lead since the first quarter with a 3-pointer in the beginning of the fourth. And they fought off the Spurs from there.

"I think this road trip is a good test for the month of December," Karl said. "We've got to go out and get at least the majority of these games, maybe even more to have a great December. I think our December has more, tougher opponents, some on the road."

Anthony finished with 34 points, 22 in the second half. Billups had 18.

Meanwhile, the Spurs didn't look exactly vintage themselves in a game that featured more than their fair share of missed connections and shoddy execution. San Antonio had eight turnovers in third quarter alone.

The loss was their second straight bitter pill to swallow against one of the NBA's best teams. This one followed a defeat at the hands of Boston two days earlier. Tim Duncan finished with 26 points and six rebounds for the Spurs, and Tony Parker added 27 points and five assists, but had six turnovers.

NZ Spurs
12-06-2009, 03:23 AM
Why does everyone say we're playing great defense when a team drops 106 on us?

Because they actually watched the game. In the context of the game the Spurs played good enough defense to win the game, not to mention they had to defend 19 extra possessions.

temujin
12-06-2009, 10:56 AM
Why does everyone say we're playing great defense when a team drops 106 on us?

Because freaking Toronto scored even more.

ElNono
12-06-2009, 11:32 AM
The turnovers are just part of the story. We shot 10-26 in the second half, that's how much Carmelo alone scored in the half (10-16 for him).
While we did hold them to below average in scoring (they average 110.5/game), I thought the score was too high during the game. I think we did good enough on defense to win last night, but we can certainly do better, and should.

Chieflion
12-06-2009, 11:34 AM
The turnovers are just part of the story. We shot 10-26 in the second half, that's how much Carmelo alone scored in the half (10-16 for him).
While we did hold them to below average in scoring (they average 110.5/game), I thought the score was too high during the game. I think we did good enough on defense to win last night, but we can certainly do better, and should.
What? If the Nuggets are allowed to play their brand of basketball with no resistance, I don't see how we are supposed to win the game.

ElNono
12-06-2009, 11:38 AM
What? If the Nuggets are allowed to play their brand of basketball with no resistance, I don't see how we are supposed to win the game.

But we did do a good job in the first half. I thought Bogans and RJ played well on Melo. I mean, he's going to get his. Smith was hoisting bad shots as usual. You just don't want guys like Afflalo, K-Mart, Birdman or Ty Lawson to hurt you out there, and you could argue only one of them did last night.
Our offense is what hurt us the most, and if you look closely, where the most turnovers came about.

Russ
12-06-2009, 12:20 PM
Bad passes don't concern me that much -- they can be corrected.

But I have noticed a disturbing trend with Duncan -- he's getting the ball stripped from him a lot lately. That may just be a sign that he's getting older and he isn't quick enough to protect the ball anymore.

The good news is that a player as intelligent as Duncan can probably find a counter to the problem if and when it becomes a real hinderance.