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T Park
04-22-2005, 01:50 PM
Can you guess what team's record that is, in games of 10 points or less?

baseline bum
04-22-2005, 02:17 PM
Nah... tell me

T Park
04-22-2005, 02:25 PM
come on, give it a try.

Make me look somewhat intelligent for once... :)

Solid D
04-22-2005, 02:39 PM
The Spurs are 40-5 in games decided by 10 points or less.

Spurminator
04-22-2005, 02:40 PM
It was the Spurs?

Aw man, I was gonna say that.

;)

Solid D
04-22-2005, 02:41 PM
The stove is normally found in what room of the house?

Any takers?

Sorry, just playin' T Park :lol

FromWayDowntown
04-22-2005, 02:43 PM
He might as well have asked if anyone could guess how to spell "cat."

timvp
04-22-2005, 02:44 PM
I'm guessing that this year's 40-5 mark is the best of the last couple years. Probably going back to the '99 run.

adidas11
04-22-2005, 02:45 PM
I thought it was going to be the Clippers.

Nikos
04-22-2005, 02:51 PM
Strange stat, considering how mediocre they have been in the clutch this season (at least according to the 82games.com definition).

Miami and Phoenix have excellent records in the clutch, while the Spurs were mediocre.

Perhaps its because the Spurs would be up 4-5 pts and only win by 1-2 points? Perhaps they were in a lot of clutch situations where only 5 minutes were left, but were able to put the team away into a range that was out of the clutch range according to 82games.com (less than 10, but greater than 5?)

boutons
04-22-2005, 02:53 PM
I don't think 10 pts is the usual cutoff for this kind of stat. Sounds too big.

What is the Spurs record for "close" games of +/- 5 pts?

T Park
04-22-2005, 02:59 PM
well boutons, afraid to break it to you.

But Eric Musselman knows more than you do jack, so that is a correct stat.

T Park
04-22-2005, 03:01 PM
[QUOTE][QUOTE]He might as well have asked if anyone could guess how to spell "cat."


Then why did it take someone so freakin long to answer.


Idiots like me can bring OK threads once in a while.

MadDog73
04-22-2005, 03:06 PM
[QUOTE][QUOTE]


Then why did it take someone so freakin long to answer.


Idiots like me can bring OK threads once in a while.

:lmao Poor T-Park "I get no respect!" (for the record, I had no idea).

scott
04-22-2005, 03:10 PM
What's the range for point differential within 1 standard deviation? My guess it hovers around 8 points... to me 10 points is not a good indicator of performance in close games. 4-6 points would seem like a much better cut off.

IceColdBrewski
04-22-2005, 03:12 PM
Nice. Meaningless, but nice.

Let the real season begin.

T Park
04-22-2005, 03:27 PM
not meaningless.

This team can win tight games.

Playoff games.

Solid D
04-22-2005, 03:28 PM
Another stat I like is the Spurs led the NBA in fewest 100 point games by the opposition. 11 games all season (3-8 in those games).

The Spurs also had the highest winning % in games in which the Spurs scored 100+ points. They had 30 games, of which they won 28 and lost 2 for a .933 winning %.

scott
04-22-2005, 03:29 PM
Alright, I did a quick analysis.

Average margin in the NBA this year was 10.31 points per game with +/- 1 Standard Deviation range at 2.99 to 17.34

To me, a "close" game is one at the bottom end of the range within 1 std dev, so I'd be curious to hear the Spurs record at 3 points or less.

With that said, I'm very happy to hear we are 40-5 within the mean margin.

Solid D
04-22-2005, 03:30 PM
Of course, I'd like to remind you of one of the more encouraging stats...

The Spurs were 38-3 at home and they have HCA with everyone except PHX. Two of those losses were to Seattle and the third loss came without Duncan and Ginobili vs. Denver.

T Park
04-22-2005, 03:31 PM
2-0 against Denver with Tim Duncan if you wanna keep goin...

Ed Helicopter Jones
04-22-2005, 03:34 PM
Nice job Mr. T. No one else had pointed that out in here yet.

I like the idea that the Spurs have won 89% of their games that have been within a 10 point margin. Most of their playoff games will likely be decided within that range.

I feel better about the playoffs already.

Solid D
04-22-2005, 03:43 PM
40-5 in games decided by 10 points or less...therefore

19-18 in games decided by 10 points or more? Hmmm.

Maybe that stat is not correct after all.

FromWayDowntown
04-22-2005, 03:49 PM
Here are the records of playoff teams (by seed -- didn't have time to calculate percentages) in games decided by 3 points or less.

Caveat -- I got these numbers from the same place (espn.com's expanded NBA standings) that had the 40-5 number. I posted what I found, but I think some independent research is in order on both numbers.

WEST
PNX 7-2
SAS 9-7
SEA 7-5
DAL 8-4
HOU 12-6
SAC 10-7
DEN 8-4
MEM 7-11

EAST
MIA 7-8
DET 8-8
BOS 11-7
WAS 14-6
CHI 7-5
IND 9-9
PHIL 10-4
NJ 7-4

timvp
04-22-2005, 03:50 PM
40-5 in games decided by 10 points or less...therefore

19-18 in games decided by 10 points or more? Hmmm.

Maybe that stat is not correct after all.

Ah ha.

Somebody solved this riddle.

It's not true.

:lol

scott
04-22-2005, 03:57 PM
Especially given this...


SAS 9-7

T Park, care to tell us how smart Eric Musselman is.

New stat... we are 59-0 when leading with no time left.

Solid D
04-22-2005, 04:00 PM
The corrected stat should read the Spurs are 40-5 in games decided by 10 or more points. I checked it out. This is an accurate stat.

What that means is the Spurs won over half their games by 10 or more and thereby corresponds with leading the league in point differential +/- at 7.8 ppg.

(T Park, that's probably what Musselman meant to say).

timvp
04-22-2005, 04:01 PM
So all this really means is the Spurs lost by more than 10 points only five times.

I thought T Park stumbled on a great stat. Guess not.

Solid D
04-22-2005, 04:07 PM
All 5 were road losses. Only 1 of those 5 double digit losses (@SEA the 2nd game of the season) were pre-Duncan's injury. The other 4 (@NY, @DEN, @DAL, and @MIN) came after Tim's last ankle sprain in DET.

MadDog73
04-22-2005, 04:07 PM
Well, we are 40-0 in games decided by 10 pts. or more (unless I did my math wrong).

We've won 19 games by less than 10 points.

(I didn't bother going into by what margin we lost by in our 23 losses)

EDIT: and as usual, I'm too slow... :(

MadDog73
04-22-2005, 04:11 PM
So all this really means is the Spurs lost by more than 10 points only five times.

I thought T Park stumbled on a great stat. Guess not.


Well, it's not a bad stat. When we've lost, it hasn't been big. And since half those losses came after Tim was injured... then that's really good.

Of course, being 19-18 in games decided by less than 10 points isn't really good...

Solid D
04-22-2005, 04:15 PM
MadDog, please see details above on losses.

Ed Helicopter Jones
04-22-2005, 04:18 PM
All 5 were road losses. Only 1 of those 5 double digit losses (@SEA the 2nd game of the season) were pre-Duncan's injury. The other 4 (@NY, @DEN, @DAL, and @MIN) came after Tim's last ankle sprain in DET.


The Spurs don't get blown out. I guess that's a good stat too.


Nice try anyway T.

T Park
04-22-2005, 04:19 PM
"damn T Park, why dont you bring some stats once in a while and stop talking out of your ass"


The one time I do some homework and try and lookin stuff up, after Musselman said this,

and I get ripped for it.

Fuck you guys.

Solid D
04-22-2005, 04:26 PM
T Park, at least you were correct on the record and 10 points. It was just the "or less" that got messed up by someone. Not a bad faux pas and it got me, too.

T Park
04-22-2005, 04:35 PM
yeah yeah yeah. :depressed

timvp
04-22-2005, 04:37 PM
Nice try.

Where did Musselman say this?

Solid D
04-22-2005, 04:39 PM
Here T Park, have a Lifesaver. :)

http://www.advantageservice.net/images/Ls_5flavor.jpg

T Park
04-22-2005, 04:40 PM
need more than that.

Jim Rome show today.

Great interview.


I like Musselman, I think hed be a perfect replacement for Popovich.

Just knows offense quite a bit better.

GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI
04-22-2005, 04:42 PM
Especially given this...



T Park, care to tell us how smart Eric Musselman is.

New stat... we are 59-0 when leading with no time left.


Actually the spurs are only 58 - 1 if you count the memphis game

tekdragon
04-22-2005, 04:45 PM
http://www.southparkquotes.com/images/eric.gif
Screw you guys. I'm going home.

ShoogarBear
04-22-2005, 04:48 PM
I mean, just a little common sense should have made you call BS on the 40-5.

Off the top of my head, I know of the Spurs losing to Memphis x2, Utah x2, Houston x2 all less than five points.

T Park
04-22-2005, 04:50 PM
well we can only be as smart as you shoogar heaven forbid.

ShoogarBear
04-22-2005, 04:52 PM
That's the point, you don't have to be very smart at all to remember those losses.

boutons
04-22-2005, 04:53 PM
"Average margin in the NBA this year was 10.31 points per game"

??? but this:

http://www.nba.com/statistics/sortable_team_statistics/sortable1.html#top

... says Spurs are best in PPG diff with +7.8, and ATL is worst -9.70, meaning everybody else is in between.

Where do you get 10.31 PPG diff for whole fricking league?

Hey, T_Porc, go kiss Musselman's ass. He's your kinda guy.

10 PPG isn't a close game, it isn't a blowout, it says shit.

What's the Spurs' record in close games, say 5 PPG diff? ... which is probably the kind of game the playoffs will be.

T Park
04-22-2005, 04:54 PM
hey boutons, dont you have another picture thread to go critique and be a prick in.

BTW, what the fuck is T Porc?

you mean T Pork??

and if thats all you can come up with, keep quiet.

Ed Helicopter Jones
04-22-2005, 04:57 PM
Here T Park, have a Lifesaver. :)

http://www.advantageservice.net/images/Ls_5flavor.jpg


:lmao

sungo99
04-22-2005, 05:07 PM
Never mind. Apparently I cannot read.

Solid D
04-22-2005, 05:08 PM
.

sungo99
04-22-2005, 05:09 PM
Redundant, sungo99. Read before you post (see top of this page 2).

Yeah, I have a problem.

scott
04-22-2005, 05:14 PM
"Average margin in the NBA this year was 10.31 points per game"

??? but this:

http://www.nba.com/statistics/sortable_team_statistics/sortable1.html#top

... says Spurs are best in PPG diff with +7.8, and ATL is worst -9.70, meaning everybody else is in between.

Where do you get 10.31 PPG diff for whole fricking league?

Hey, T_Porc, go kiss Musselman's ass. He's your kinda guy.

10 PPG isn't a close game, it isn't a blowout, it says shit.

What's the Spurs' record in close games, say 5 PPG diff? ... which is probably the kind of game the playoffs will be.

10.31 is the average point differential for every NBA game played this season, not the average of each team's individual point differential.

If every game was decided at the average point differential, and every team went 41-41, then every's teams point differential would be 0 but the average game in the NBA obviously would be some other number.

The difference is that mixed in to the Spur's data series for point differential are losses - my analysis didn't care who wins or loses... it is just the # of points that the average game is decided by.

Jimcs50
04-23-2005, 06:39 PM
Spurs have the most wins in the league by 10 pts or more 40-5

TwoHandJam
04-23-2005, 07:58 PM
Spurs have the most wins in the league by 10 pts or more 40-5
Is there an echo in here?

MI21
04-23-2005, 10:21 PM
I'm not really sure how any of yall figured this was a correct stat :lol