Post here if you still beleive

[hater]

post here if you still beleive the Spurs can win a championship this year... Your name will be forever engraved in history.

But of course, grasshopper needs to learn how to walk before he runs. Post here if you still beleive Spurs will finish December off and still be within striking distance of #1 or #2 in the South West.

I think the Spurs need to go back to basics. In the following way:

- Pop needs to go back to what made him succesful, and that is control the team's play with a TIGHT leash
- Parker needs to go back and play with that very tight leash he has won 3 championships with. Fuck giving Parker the reigns. that obviously has failed.
- Duncan, Blair, Hill and Bonner don't have to change a thing. they are all having monster seasons
- Manu just needs to pretend he just came over from Europe and just wants to win some minutes, not carry the team
- RJ needs to NOT think when he is on the floor. When he thinks, he makes mistakes. He is the kinda player that needs to just trust his insctincts
- Dyess needs to pretend he is back in the Pistons and play the exact same way
- Mason needs to put the team ahead of him and let Pop know to give Hairston a try over him AND not to play him ever at PG
- all the players need to confront Pop and tell him that he needs to go back to basics, to the oldschool SPUR BALL. DEFENSE. Spurs need to strive to be #1 defensive team, anything else, spells failure.

[Fpoonsie]

Well...

I'll still believe under THOSE conditions.

[DPG21920]

I don't know if the Spurs can win it all or be in striking distance of a top 2 seed, but I am not going to doubt them.

[easy7]

Call me crazy but I still believe... :hat

[duncan228]

I believe in this team every year until they clean out their lockers for the summer. Win, lose, or ugly, I'm a Spurs fan.

[in2deep]

Old school Pop would beat the living shit out of that pansy ass small ball Pop.

We need old school Pop!

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/05/joey-crawford-gregg-popovich.jpg

http://files.lakerhead.com/2009/06/popbefore.jpg

[pelon]

Hell yea I still believe in this team. Ill stop once we go fishing
GO SPURS GO WIN OR LOSE

[Spursmania]

I believe in this team every year until they clean out their lockers for the summer. Win, lose, or ugly, I'm a Spurs fan.

+1:toast

[vander]

I believe in this team every year until they clean out their lockers for the summer. Win, lose, or ugly, I'm a Spurs fan.

pretty sure being a "fan" does not require you to blindly believe your team will win it all, I'm sure NJ has hundreds of thousands of fans, and I doubt very many of them "believe" right about now

[senorglory]

I believe.

Championship is ours.

[pelon]

i know this isnt the greatest way to start off a season but hey we'll get better as the eason progresses. If were playing like this after the all-star break then ill panic

[hater]

I believe in this team every year until they clean out their lockers for the summer. Win, lose, or ugly, I'm a Spurs fan.

Goddam!!!

Duncan228 you are hardcore! If I was forming a mob, you'd probably be the first one I'd recruit :hat

[pelon]

these last 3 games we have lost have came down to the last minute or so. its not like were getting blown out

[urunobili]

all the way in!

[spursncowboys]

We have enough talent to win it all. As long as we get a seed, we can still do it. Except for the lakers, we have the best advantage of out playing teams in series. We adjust better than anyother team. However Bonner cannot take the last shot! Ever!

[pelon]

i dont care what any experts or fans say but im sticking to my team no matter what, unlike these laker fans. trust me i know i live here in L.A.
go spuuuurs

[mexicanjunior]

But of course, grasshopper needs to learn how to walk before he runs. Post here if you still beleive Spurs will finish December off and still be within striking distance of #1 or #2 in the South West.


I don't know if it is saying much but I believe the Spurs can at least stay 3rd in the division...

[Spursmania]

I don't know if it is saying much but I believe the Spurs can at least stay 3rd in the division...

Are you feeling a little better Mexican? :lol

[mexicanjunior]

Are you feeling a little better Mexican? :lol

Considering New Orleans and Memphis are below us, playing .500 ball is probably good enough to maintain 3rd in this division.

[Dex]

Believe goes beyond the numbers. It goes beyond the boxscore, and scoreboard, and win-loss column. Doesn't matter to me if the Spurs are 20-0 or 0-20.

I Believe now, and I always will.

[outmap]

I believe!

[timtonymanu]

I believe! I know in other threads i said bad stuff but that was my emotions and ranting so it should not be taken seriously. I believe the Spurs can do it. We didnt get all this talent for nothing.

[vander]

:rolleyes

Believing is for Clipper fans

[UnWantedTheory]

To quote one of the elves in The Santa Claus, "Seeing isnt believing, believing is seeing." So yes my mo fo's, I believe it is possible. Especially with my child like enthusiasm at all new lows....I need to be positive. :)

[UnWantedTheory]

:rolleyes

Believing is for Clipper fans

Tinkerbell: If you can't imagine yourself being Peter Pan, you won't be Peter Pan.

Duh.

[UnWantedTheory]

Tootles: Have to fly, have to fight, have to crow, have to save Maggie, have to save Jack. Hookie's back.

Geez. Watch Hook. Peter Pan is such an inspiration to us all.

[UnWantedTheory]

Sorry...My son made me watch that movie three times today...I feel I could quote the entire damn thing.

[VBM]

I believe, but I reserve my right to call this team out if I don't think they're playing up to their abilities. It's not cliff-jumping, bandwagoning or the like...it's called being a damn fan.

[VBM]

Tootles: Have to fly, have to fight, have to crow, have to save Maggie, have to save Jack. Hookie's back.

Geez. Watch Hook. Peter Pan is such an inspiration to us all.

Dog

WOOF WOOF WHOOF WHOOF HOOF HOOF HOOK HOOK!!!

[TinTin]

I believe this team can win a championship with a playoff manu (thanks to jam

[Dex]

Tootles: Have to fly, have to fight, have to crow, have to save Maggie, have to save Jack. Hookie's back.

Geez. Watch Hook. Peter Pan is such an inspiration to us all.

Bangerang! :downspin:

Ahh, to be eight again.

[jdev82]

i beleive

[nkdlunch]

I beleive!

why? I just had a baby boy today and still think of the Spurs!!

:flag:

[sa_kid20]

I'm in. I'm always in. All the time.

[Dex]

I beleive!

why? I just had a baby boy today and still think of the Spurs!!

:flag:

congrats nkdlunch!

[TIMMYD!]

these last 3 games we have lost have came down to the last minute or so. its not like were getting blown out

Exactly we made many mistake and missed many FTs but if you think about it we we're not blown out either.

[kamikazi_player]

Don't worry we still believe, we have a 3 percent chance of winning it all:hat
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/playoffodds

[Sisk]

i believe a few people can't spell believe..

but i still believe, at the beginning of the season i said it'd take 30 games to start meshing together.. it's been 18, so i'll stick to my prediction
:lobt2:

[kamikazi_player]

^^ i say second half of the season we will start picking it up. I never give up on the spurs

[FkLA]

Believer

[sa_kid20]

I beleive!

why? I just had a baby boy today and still think of the Spurs!!

:flag:

Congrats man!

[lennyalderette]

you would be crazy to give up on the spurs with tim tony manu and pop, i didnt give up on the spurs b4 we got timmy and im not about to start now! GO Spurs GO! i swear if we all projected really good evergy it would make a difference!! thats what im doing. im also no longer reading negative posts about our team

:flag:

[raspsa]

Like Finley said when he joined the team.. "I'm just a passenger on this cruise ship".. or something to that effect.

[Duncan2177]

I still beleive, im 32 years old and been a spurs fan since 1992 i will always beleive. :flag::lobt2:

[ajballer4]

Im in for the long haul. Go Spurs Go!

[Spursfan092120]

Damn right I still believe that shit...oh..and just for fun..this is freaking hilarious

Q1PMmG1Crb4

[SpursFTW]

GO SPURS.. it hurts so bad when they lose... but thats being a true fan... THEY CAN win it all!!!

[Thompson]

Are you kidding? No way I beleive in the Spurs. No one else posting here beleives in them either. They're just saying they do because they don't know any better.

I do believe in the Spurs, however.

[loveforthegame]

I still believe. The growing pains won't last forever.

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

I believe, Can I --Can I get a amen!

[lefty]

I don't beleive

But I believe

[Siebzehn50]

Fitting that this is my first post on this board

:flag::lobt2::flag:

[lefty]

Seieng is beleiving

[z0sa]

Never stop Believing (in the Spurs)

[barbacoataco]

I still believe in the Spurs. I have been a fan since 1988. Last time I checked they still had Duncan, Ginobili and Parker on the roster.

[pjjrfan]

They are my team so I still believe. Been a fan too long and been through too many downs not to stick with this particular group that have given me so much joy and what I once thought would never happen in my lifetime has happened 4 times. I sitll believe they can pull out a fifth one, they've surprised me before.

[baseline bum]

I still think this is a title contending team. The rebounding is there finally. The talent is there. They finally are getting great bench production from the bigs in Bonner and Blair. Jefferson has been a huge disappointment and this has been a horrifying start to the year, but by far the biggest problems have been the health of Parker and Ginobili. Give them some time to get healthy and I think this can be a hell of a team, even if Richard can only get 12-13 ppg in this offense.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I believe it's too early to write the team off. I believe the team's confidence is at an all time low, and I also believe that is probably due largely to Manu's and RJ's struggles - with those two failing, the team only has one penetrator (TP), and he is not at full-speed either.

I also believe it's time to start exploring a trading Manu or RJ.

[z0sa]

I believe it's too early to write the team off.

I also beleive it's time to start exploring a trading Manu or RJ.

Who wants RJ's contract?

[barbacoataco]

Why would anyone want Jefferson with the way he is playing? More likely Ginobili bc of his expiring contract. But I would be against trading Ginobili.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Who wants RJ's contract?

Probably no-one, but maybe someone who wants capspace in 2011. Also, RJ could still put up 20ppg on the right team - he just doesn't fit here. He needs the ball in his hands to succeed, and that's just not going to happen on the Spurs.

The bigger question is what could be gotten for a Manu that seriously looks like he's lost a step. His expiring contract makes him pretty attractive, I guess.

[baseline bum]

I believe it's too early to write the team off.

I also beleive it's time to start exploring a trading Manu or RJ.

What are you going to get for Manu when he's shooting 37% and has been worthless the previous two playoffs? I'd rather hold onto him and hope he can stay healthy than sell low for pennies on the dollar. Jefferson's got a huge expiring in 2011 though, so I could see the Spurs being able to move him if they take a worse contract off someone's hands.

[HarlemHeat37]

Manu's an expiring contract for the big 2010 off-season..we can get something significant for him, especially if he's packaged with Mason and/or Finley..

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

What are you going to get for Manu when he's shooting 37% and has been worthless the previous two playoffs? I'd rather hold onto him and hope he can stay healthy than sell low for pennies on the dollar. Jefferson's got a huge expiring in 2011 though, so I could see the Spurs being able to move him if they take a worse contract off someone's hands.

$10.725mil expiring.

I did say "explore options" - if we can't get something really nice for him I wouldn't trade him.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

And yeah, how about benching Bogans for a while and giving some minutes to Hairston. It is sink or swim time for this team, time to trust in the youth.

[barbacoataco]

I don't think you blow up the team until you've seen everyone healthy for awhile and they still aren't elite. Injuries and health are everything in sports, and with Parker and Ginobili both still recovering the Spurs need a lot of work.

Imagine this same team with Parker and Ginobili playing the way they are capable of. There is a better chance of that happening than getting better by making a trade.

[baseline bum]

$10.725mil expiring.

I did say "explore options" - if we can't get something really nice for him I wouldn't trade him.

I forgot about adding Finley's and Mason's deals in. Who specifically would you be after?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I don't think you blow up the team until you've seen everyone healthy for awhile and they still aren't elite. Injuries and health are everything in sports, and with Parker and Ginobili both still recovering the Spurs need a lot of work.

Imagine this same team with Parker and Ginobili playing the way they are capable of. There is a better chance of that happening than getting better by making a trade.

Problem is, I don't think Manu is going to get much better. His ability to penetrate declined last year, and has pretty much disappeared this year. Sadly, I think he's lost a step and that takes away the quality that makes him a standout and a special player. I hate to say it because he's one of my favourite players of all time. :depressed I hope I'm wrong.

I'm not worried about TP. He's slowly rounding into some shape.

[senorglory]

Spurs enjoying bench boost (http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140430), Jeff McDonald 11/25/09:
Heading into tonight's game against Golden State, the Spurs' reserves can lay legitimate argument to the title “Best Bench in the NBA.”

Anchored by ascending point guard George Hill, the Spurs' bench ranks second in the league in scoring (43 points per game) and first in rebounding (19.3 per game) and assists (9.5 per game).

[barbacoataco]

A couple of years ago Ray Allen looked finished after multiple ankle injuries. But eventually he got it together and was a durable elite performer for the Celtics. It takes a long time to fully recover the power and eplosiveness after going so long without it. I think Ginobili still could get it together and be a force again.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I forgot about adding Finley's and Mason's deals in. Who specifically would you be after?

That's the problem, I have no idea. Currently thinking about it, but there's really no-one out there who I'd both want and their team wants to get rid of to hire a veteran for a year.

OJ Mayo might fit, but no way they do that. James Harden would be perfect, but that ain't happening either.

I guess he stays and we cross our fingers.

As for RJ, he's just as bad to try and find a fit for. However, that's why there is a front office. Love to see Gomes as a Spur.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

A couple of years ago Ray Allen looked finished after multiple ankle injuries. But eventually he got it together and was a durable elite performer for the Celtics. It takes a long time to fully recover the power and eplosiveness after going so long without it. I think Ginobili still could get it together and be a force again.

I sincerely, with all of my heart and mind, hope that you are right.

[z0sa]

Probably no-one, but maybe someone who wants capspace in 2011. Also, RJ could still put up 20ppg on the right team - he just doesn't fit here. He needs the ball in his hands to succeed, and that's just not going to happen on the Spurs.

Hmm. I think that team is the Spurs on any given night and often, if the circumstances are right; this ties in with the answer to the following statement:


The bigger question is what could be gotten for a Manu that seriously looks like he's lost a step. His expiring contract makes him pretty attractive, I guess.


I'm right there with you with Manu. I love him but the team must come first. He still has game, I believe.. while his health is definitely questionable, and he seems to lost some athleticism, his expiring contract should be enough.

The good part about is we hold all the cards: if we don't find any suitable trading partners, we can always just rest him as much as needed for a playoff run. Hopefully he will stay healthy during the season, and play big in that run, but if not, he ends up posting mediocre stats in a contract year - and hopefully that'd be enough for us to resign him cheaper.

However, I'm not sure I like Manu in the future of the Spurs. Not unless he can prove right now, this season and playoffs, his health issues are behind him. He's actually got about 70 days to prove that, if you ask me.

[HarlemHeat37]

Ray Allen never looked like Manu is looking right now..

[lurker23]

Believe.

[RamReddy]

I don't have to believe because...
We will turn things around after the all-star break...(again)


I'm 100% sure we will win the 2010 NBA Championship:lobt:

[TDomination]

We will get better and all these struggles will be a great part of our championship DVD!

[benefactor]

Believe.

[JustinJDW]

I believe. I have always believed.

[spurs2112]

Count me in, I argue everyday at work against them Spurs haters. This team will turn it around, plenty of time left.

[UnWantedTheory]

I beleive!

why? I just had a baby boy today and still think of the Spurs!!

:flag:

Congrats bro.

[UnWantedTheory]

Bangerang! :downspin:

Ahh, to be eight again.

Lol My kid is Dos of the years old. He is crazy into Hook for some reason.

[nkdlunch]

congrats nkdlunch!


Congrats man!


Congrats bro.

:toast

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

So you could probably get a few role players for Manu's expiring contract that still looks pretty good. It's better than nothing.

No, it's not. We have plenty of role players. We need a star who can penetrate and hit the 3. If you don't get a very good player for Manu's contract, you don't trade him IMHO.

[alchemist]

OAZG2duVte4

[xellos88330]

:d

[Manu-of-steel]

i believe in the spurs. They will eventually hit their strides. If the spurs can win that many games last year with a not-so-strong line up, then this year would be a better one. Though the wins are not yet there to boot.

[HarlemHeat37]

No, it's not. We have plenty of role players. We need a star who can penetrate and hit the 3. If you don't get a very good player for Manu's contract, you don't trade him IMHO.

Our role players on the perimeter are still pretty weak though..since Hairston doesn't get a chance, our rotation wing role players are too 1-D right now, which is a problem..

We're also still missing a shot blocker, since Ratliff is too unreliable from a physical standpoint, and the organization has given up on giving Ian a chance..

If we can get a guy like Battier or get a shot blocker, Manu should be traded..

[EmptyMan]

I know the Spurs will eventually get their game together and do work sons. I'm just not feeling that they will win it all.

[senorglory]

:toast

Yes, congrats nkdlunch... and if that's you in your avatar, here's hoping the kid looks just like his mom.

[honestfool84]

i believe.

[The Truth #6]

Trading Manu would signal the end of the era for many fans. I don't think Holt wants to lose that many potential fans for the addition of James Posey and a future number one pick, so to speak.

However, with his recent injuries, his chances of getting resigned have taken a hit. And if they commit to not resigning him, then a deadline trade does become much more of a potential scenario.

But if I was Holt and feeling broke and pessimistic, shit, I wouldn't resign Parker either, especially after his ankle injuries keep recurring and his willingness to play for his NT while injured.

[ElNono]

I believe!

[Chieflion]

Posted. Whatever the Spurs FO does can change my mind though.

[spurtech09]

go back to old school pop...thats how we won championships.....heck yeah I still believe ....lets go spurs

[birdy219]

I am a believer. :flag:

[Blackjack]

I believe this team with the right tweak to the roster, a clean bill of health, and a little good fortune can still get it done; it's a lot to ask, though..


If we can get a guy like Battier or get a shot blocker, Manu should be traded..

There's absolutely no trade that could bring back equal value and give you a better shot at a title if he's capable of being anywhere close to the player he's been, but..

If you've come to the conclusion, as a front office, that you're just not going to get that Manu this year, do you pull the trigger on a deal that makes you a marginally better ball club; the proverbial Hail Mary?

Say, Manu could get you Thomas and Salmons...

[Chieflion]

I believe this team with the right tweak to the roster, a clean bill of health, and a little good fortune can still get it done; it's a lot to ask, though..



There's absolutely no trade that could bring back equal value and give you a better shot at a title if he's capable of being anywhere close to the player he's been, but..

If you've come to the conclusion, as a front office, that you're just not going to get that Manu this year, do you pull the trigger on a deal that makes you a marginally better ball club; the proverbial Hail Mary?

Say, Manu could get you Thomas and Salmons...
I would do it if Manu can't play no more.

[eyeh8u]

http://robertbonnett.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/ufo-i-believe.jpg

[Danny.Zhu]

Me.

[5in10]

I am a believer. :flag:

[Dex]

Lol My kid is Dos of the years old. He is crazy into Hook for some reason.

I have a nephew who is 1-and-a-half, and the kid is just cuh-razy about pirates. He plays with pirate toys, does pirate dances, wears pirate costumes...one of his first words was even "pi-yate" :lol

Not sure if he's seen Hook yet, but that should be right up his alley.

[Rito3d30]

I believe
They just need time

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I believe this team with the right tweak to the roster, a clean bill of health, and a little good fortune can still get it done; it's a lot to ask, though..



There's absolutely no trade that could bring back equal value and give you a better shot at a title if he's capable of being anywhere close to the player he's been, but..

If you've come to the conclusion, as a front office, that you're just not going to get that Manu this year, do you pull the trigger on a deal that makes you a marginally better ball club; the proverbial Hail Mary?

Say, Manu could get you Thomas and Salmons...

Interesting. I was thinking about Salmons too. Thomas and Salmons for Manu works in the trade machine, and it is intriguing - Thomas is a headcase, but he's also a fine shotblocker and rebounder. Salmons is a true all-court swing who does a bit of everything, but he is also a player who probably needs the ball in his hands. The problem with those two is that neither of them seems to have a high ball IQ (Thomas is particularly slow), and that would kill them here.

It would definitely be a Hail Mary, but unless Manu shows a semblance of his former self by January, I'd probably do it... and the Bulls need a $10mil expiring to make a run at the big FAs. Interesting.

The other team that really wants expirings is NY, but they don't have much of anything we want, and certainly not Jared Jefferies or Eddy Curry! :lmao

[duhoh]

We have enough talent to win it all. As long as we get a seed, we can still do it. Except for the lakers, we have the best advantage of out playing teams in series. We adjust better than anyother team. However Bonner cannot take the last shot! Ever!

:tu

but if that shot went in. . . :(

[Blackjack]

Interesting. I was thinking about Salmons too. Thomas and Salmons for Manu works in the trade machine, and it is intriguing - Thomas is a headcase, but he's also a fine shotblocker and rebounder. Salmons is a true all-court swing who does a bit of everything, but he is also a player who probably needs the ball in his hands. The problem with those two is that neither of them seems to have a high ball IQ (Thomas is particularly slow), and that would kill them here.

It would definitely be a Hail Mary, but unless Manu shows a semblance of his former self by January, I'd probably do it... and the Bulls need a $10mil expiring to make a run at the big FAs. Interesting.

The Thomas rumors had me thinking, (the Spurs have been linked to him in the past..) and Salmons was someone I was hoping the Spurs could acquire last year. I figured the numbers were pretty close and considering they want to be a player next year in free-agency, Manu's expiring could tempt them. Plus, they'd be getting the best player in the trade and could sell it to that loyal fan base they're not just dumping salary and waiting 'til next year..

I'd like the fit of the players skill set-wise: Tyrus would be a hell of a compliment to Tim with his weakside shot-blocking and athleticism on the perimeter, that face-up shot he displayed in the Celtics series would also be nice compliment, and Salmons is just a really good well-rounded player that would be an upgrade over anyone not named Manu at the 2; maybe even 3..

My loyalty wouldn't allow me to pull the trigger unless it was a no-brainer, though; I don't envy the front office if they come to that conclusion..

[ffadicted]

:tu

but if that shot went in. . . :(

Damn close to... :(

[iManu]

No, we currently live and die by Manu.

He's the Laker killer. :lobt2:

[Bambililos]

I believe.

We got the talent, we just need Pop to use it right.

[dreamsky]

I believe.

Championship is ours.

+1:flag:

[shingo_318]

word under my id...

[Mr.Robinson]

I still believe like the buff dude with the sax in The Lost Boys.

[ThaiFanofSpurs]

Count me in too. Yes, I still believe in the Spurs. In all the years they won the titles, they always worried us at he beginning of the seasons and then surpirsed us by winning the titles in all those years. Go Spurs Go!

[Rummpd]

Count me in Spurs have gone through rough stretches before and now are also going through a sloppy and unlucky stretch all concurrently. I also believe the team will solidify on the road and dramatically improve and still get a top 4 seed.

[JR3]

I still beleive.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Iiiiiiiiiiiii still believe
someday you and me
will find ourselves
in love agaiiiiinnnnn

[LOL@MavsFan]

I believe in this team every year until they clean out their lockers for the summer. Win, lose, or ugly, I'm a Spurs fan.

:toast:toast That's exactly how I feel. Well put Duncan.

[Frenzy]

I believe in this team every year until they clean out their lockers for the summer. Win, lose, or :fishing, I'm a Spurs fan.

fixed

[14dave]

I still believe!!!

[mountainballer]

The Thomas rumors had me thinking, (the Spurs have been linked to him in the past..) and Salmons was someone I was hoping the Spurs could acquire last year. I figured the numbers were pretty close and considering they want to be a player next year in free-agency, Manu's expiring could tempt them. Plus, they'd be getting the best player in the trade and could sell it to that loyal fan base they're not just dumping salary and waiting 'til next year..

I'd like the fit of the players skill set-wise: Tyrus would be a hell of a compliment to Tim with his weakside shot-blocking and athleticism on the perimeter, that face-up shot he displayed in the Celtics series would also be nice compliment, and Salmons is just a really good well-rounded player that would be an upgrade over anyone not named Manu at the 2; maybe even 3..

My loyalty wouldn't allow me to pull the trigger unless it was a no-brainer, though; I don't envy the front office if they come to that conclusion..

whatever has been said and speculated about Manu in the last weeks, one fact remains IMO: Manu is the only one who can lift this team from mediocrity to contender. his game is the x-faktor. I can't tell how good the odds are that we see the old Manu as often as we need him, we can just pray that it happens. so, I do like the idea of getting Slamons a lot and the idea of getting TT a little, but they will never be able to give the Spurs what Manu could, in other words they don't have the difference maker potential, we would sacrifice in Manu.
so, why do it. if the Spurs can't make it at least to the CF, I don't care if they go out in the 1st or 2nd round or what regular season record they get.

but this doesn't mean the Bulls and Salmons couldn't still be an interesting target. at the beginning of the season Salmons seemed to be a lock, after the departure of Gordon. not so much this year. Bulls are currently that bad, it seems as if they do it to run Vinny out of town. however, if they can't turn this, they will be out of the PO race in January and in this case they will for sure listen to offers for Salmons for expiring contracts (likely +pick). the Bulls will have about 16-18 million cap space, that's nice and maybe enough for a max contract, (depends on the player and final cap number), but this number lacks the security $ for a decreased cap. if they can get rid of Salmons contract the number increases to 22-24 million. looks much better for them.
Salmons for expirings + teaser is the only trade that makes sense for the Spurs when thinking about making the team better. might cost us the 2011 1st rounder, but I think that would be ok. (Mason+Finley+the 2011 1st rounder for Salmons + 2nd rounder would be the deal). something like this won't happen right now. would be a typical deadline deal IMO.

[Flux451]

fixed

your sig creeps me out:(

[Kool Bob Love]

I believe in this team every year until they clean out their lockers for the summer. Win, lose, or ugly, I'm a Spurs fan.

[Old School 44]

Never stopped!

[manubili]

Always did and always will (at least until TD, TP and Manu are toghether)

[BlackBellamy]

I have my doubts for this year, however if the team shapes up and gels I'm willing to believe in a championship with all the talent on this squad. Next year we could be beastly too, if it takes that long. No matter what, a Spurs fan I remain.

[Solid D]

I haven't seen the Spurs play the Lakers yet this season. They are the gold standard in the NBA right now. I believe the Spurs will improve and I believe in their system. I can't make an assessment yet on their title chances.

[senorglory]

Rockets struggled during the start of the 94-95 season, finished with only 47 wins, 11 fewer than the previous year, finished 6th in the west, came back from 2-0 and 3-1 deficit in rounds 1 and 2, and... won the NBA title, making Shaq, Penny, and Nick Anderson look like chumps in a straight sweep of Orlando.

Before you ticky-tacky all the minute differences between the modern Spurs and the historic Rockets, I acknowledge no end of differences, but only point to the possibility as analogous, and the example as informative.

No doubt, could we look at the archives of rocketstalk.com, the December posters there cried and lamented the end of the Rockets era, the decline of Olajuwon, the unfathomably horrible coaching of Rudy T, the selfishness of Cassel, and the need to cut and trade everyone; and yet, the Rockets won it all that year.

:lobt2:

[spurs10]

I believe in this team every year until they clean out their lockers for the summer. Win, lose, or ugly, I'm a Spurs fan.
That's the spirit! I was a Spurs fan long before they became champs and I will be for life. I Believe.....

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

not one pointed out its believe not beleive?
anyways,
I have faith in my spurs from day 1 till the end.
Believe.

:flag:

[rayray2k8]

I've always believed. It's the fucking noobs and sequ that quit on this team.

[colargol]

je crois

[aksyunstar]

cant believe theres a topic like this.. HELL YES!!

[slick'81]

I've always believed. It's the fucking noobs and sequ that quit on this team.


been a fan since '89 and im not going anywhere anytime soon fck the haters and the quitters gospursgo till the day i motha fckn die

[UnWantedTheory]

I have a nephew who is 1-and-a-half, and the kid is just cuh-razy about pirates. He plays with pirate toys, does pirate dances, wears pirate costumes...one of his first words was even "pi-yate" :lol

Not sure if he's seen Hook yet, but that should be right up his alley.

Lol too much Johnny Depp...My son is also a huge fan of Pirates of the Caribbean. I wouldnt have thought at two they would be so devoted. But hey, they know what they like...If only I could swing that enthusiasm towards our Spurs...well it couldnt hurt.

[senorglory]

I voted straight ticket Spurs for western all-stars. Parker, Ginobili, Jefferson, Duncan, McDyess.

[z0sa]

I voted straight ticket Spurs for western all-stars. Parker, Ginobili, Jefferson, Duncan, McDyess.

After seeing Bruce Bowen accumulate the 3rd most votes and almost start as a forward last All-Star game, I began doing that too. I think every spurs fan should. Apparently we average a lot more votes than other teams.

[NRHector]

I'm in :toast

[BillMc]

Yes, I certainly believe we can win it!!!

[narmerguy]

Hell yeah we can win this.

[peter_slb]

we have until April to get everyone in their best form so, of course, I believe in the title.

[KaiRMD1]

Anything's possible, Go Spurs Go! I root for you always, even when you turn the ball over!

[texbumTHElife]

I am seated in the back of the bus with the rest of the admonished faithful. This team if built to win a title and it will. November and December dont mean shit.

[team-work]

I'm a Spurs fan for life.

If I don't watch the Spurs, I'll hardly be watching NBA at all.

[NFGIII]

In! Long time diehard Spurs fan.

TP has to step back a little to get RJ involved early on. I saw this happening agianst the Kings. This needs to continue otherwise RJ wont be nearly as productive.

Manu seems to be rounding into shape. Not quite there but the signs are there that he is improving.

This team has the talent and tools to go all the way. They just need to put them together.

All Star Break/RR Trip - by this time they will either have figured it out or not.
:flag:

[spurspokesman]

You can put the logo on my coffin lol:flag:

[timtonymanurich]

SA has a HORRIBLE start last year and we STILL won our division! New Roster, New 1/2 of season after all star break, New SPURS round into Champion form!
:lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2:

[Sobe_Kucks]

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh24/kimble02/All-is-well.jpg

:flag:I STILLL BELIEVE!!!!!:flag:

[Dr Cox]

i belive ...and will until the season is over



GO SPURS GO!

[SpursWench21]

Haha the Hook references are great. "Youre doing it Peter!"

I believe..:flag:-------------->:lobt:

[hater]

allright time to let the bandwagon mofos back in?

[in2deep]

allright time to let the bandwagon mofos back in?

what for? they will jump off at our next 2-3 game losing streak. :lol

[Tp9gospursgo]

I believe.