KSM Conspiracy Charges Analyzed and Debunked

[Galileo]

KSM Conspiracy Charges Analyzed and Debunked

Don’t believe the charges until you’ve read the charge sheet

By Rolf Lindgren and Dr. Kevin Barrett

The charge sheet against KSM and his co-defendants lists alleged overt acts, numbered 1 to 169, which the government claims furthered the 9/11 conspiracy. For the government to win the case, they need to convince the jury that each defendant committed at least one overt act that furthered the alleged conspiracy. A quick perusal of the charge sheet, however, shows no evident connection between the vast majority of these overt acts and any alleged conspiracy to commit mass murder.

PLEASE READ THE FEATURE ARTICLE:

http://www.truthjihad.com/ksm.htm

[Alex Jones]

This man deserves poster of the day! :tu

[Galileo]

This man deserves poster of the day! :tu

Just got done reading this article.

This is one hell of an article!

:ihit

[DarrinS]

Two twoofers write an article about KSM.

What could go wrong?

[FromWayDowntown]

If you're certain that it wasn't KSM, then who was it? I don't need specific names, just a broad suggestion of a group or association of some sort to which the real conspirators are related. It should be pretty easy, I'd think, particularly if you're certain that it wasn't KSM.

[Nbadan]

Some good stuff


. On or about May 18, 2000, in Berlin, Germany, Mohamed Atta (AA #11) received a visa to travel to the United States.

...Still wondering how Atta got back into the country under Dubya's watch myself...he was being watched by the Clinton FBI before he left and by German intelligence while in Germany were he met with......well...lets not go there...but they were very suspicious...

[Nbadan]

If you're certain that it wasn't KSM, then who was it? I don't need specific names, just a broad suggestion of a group or association of some sort to which the real conspirators are related. It should be pretty easy, I'd think, particularly if you're certain that it wasn't KSM.

Didn't dad ever teach you to follow the money....who gained the most $$$ and power from 9/11?

[Nbadan]

...not saying it was a conspiracy....just some sage advice..

[Galileo]

If you're certain that it wasn't KSM, then who was it? I don't need specific names, just a broad suggestion of a group or association of some sort to which the real conspirators are related. It should be pretty easy, I'd think, particularly if you're certain that it wasn't KSM.

Do you think Kahtani is guilty of mass murder? Take a look at what the government says he did, and get back to us.

[Nbadan]

...who's Kahtani?

[FromWayDowntown]

Do you think Kahtani is guilty of mass murder? Take a look at what the government says he did, and get back to us.

That's not an answer to my question; and I'm not going to answer my question for you, since I'm convinced that there's probable cause to prosecute KSM for this crime.

My question is that if you're sure that KSM didn't do it (or strongly believe that he didn't), then who did?

[Galileo]

That's not an answer to my question; and I'm not going to answer my question for you, since I'm convinced that there's probable cause to prosecute KSM for this crime.

My question is that if you're sure that KSM didn't do it (or strongly believe that he didn't), then who did?

whoever bought 17 of the plane tickets for the alleged hijackers. Read the article. The plane tickets start at alleged overt act # 130.

[Galileo]

...who's Kahtani?

He is one of the defendants on trial:

Mohamed al Kahtani (aliases Ahmed al Qahtani; Mohamed al Qahtani; Abdul Rahman al Janoobi)

[5 alleged overt acts]

[Now we will examine alleged overt acts that actually mention the people who are on trial.]

107. On or about July 14, 2001, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, Mohamed al Kahtani received a visa to travel to the United States.

[This is legal, routine, and non-suspicious behavior.]

118. On or about August 4, 2001, Mohamed al Kahtani traveled from Dubai, United Arab Emirates, via Emirates Flight #7 to London-Gatwick, England, and Virgin Atlantic Flight #15 from London to Orlando, Florida, which was scheduled to arrive at 4:40 p.m.

[This is legal, routine, and non-suspicious behavior.]

119. On or about August 4, 2001, Mohamed al Kahtani arrived at Orlando International Airport, Orlando, Florida, with $2,800 in his possession, and attempted to enter the United States. Al Kahtani also had an itinerary listing the telephone number 0505209905, a phone number associated with Mustafa al Hawsawi.

[This is legal behavior. $2800 cash is not an unusual amount of money for an overseas traveler. The alleged overt act does not say that al Kahtani knew the number was “associated” with al Hawsawi, nor is the vague term “associated” defined.]

120. On or about August 4, 2001, Mohamed al Kahtani stated to an officer of the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service that there was someone “upstairs” in the airport to pick him up. When asked the name of the person, so that the immigration inspector could verify al Kahtani’s intentions in the United States, al Kahtani changed his story and stated that no one was waiting for him.

[This, if true, could just be a miscommunication, especially if al Kahtani spoke poor English. How this provides evidence of participation in the crime of the century is not explained.]

122. On or about August 4, 2001, after being told his application for entry into the United States was going to be denied, Mohamed al Kahtani withdrew his application and was placed on board Virgin Atlantic Flight 16, which was scheduled to depart Orlando, Florida, at 8:25 p.m. and traveled back to Dubai, United Arab Emirates, via London, England.

[Big deal. This is astoundingly weak evidence for such a serious charge. There appears to be no evidence that al Kahtani was involved in any massive conspiracy to kill thousands. Even if all of the charges against the other defendants were true, it would still be an outrage to put al Kahtani on trail.]

http://www.truthjihad.com/ksm.htm

[Nbadan]

Mohammed al-Qahtani? Didn't they drop the war-crime charges against him back in 08?


The log, titled Secret Orcon Interrogation Log Detainee 063 (pdf) (http://www.time.com/time/2006/log/log.pdf), offered a daily, detailed view of the interrogation techniques used to get confessions from him from November 2002 to January 2003. These included:

• Restraint on a swivel chair for long periods; • Deprivation of sleep for long periods; • Loud music and white noise played to prevent him from sleeping; • Various humiliations, such as training him to act as a dog and wrapping him in an Israeli flag; • Lowering the temperature in the room, then throwing water into his face; • Forcing him to pray to Osama bin Laden.

Link (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/feb/12/smokemirrorsandamericanjustice)

[Galileo]

Mohammed al-Qahtani? Didn't they drop the war-crime charges against him back in 08?



Link (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/feb/12/smokemirrorsandamericanjustice)

It is hard to get straight answers from the military. They might have, but they can still refile them if they did.

He is still listed on the charge sheet as a co-defendant, so his presence there impacts the other defendants.

One wonders how they were filed in the first place.

[DarrinS]

Can't Nbadan and Galileo go hand-in-hand to some grassy-knoller forum?

[ChumpDumper]

But to be cleared of all 169 overt acts, the defendants' best strategy may be to force the government to prove that the posited "Osama and 19 hijackers" conspiracy actually took place. Good luck with that.

[Galileo]

Good luck with that.

"I knew Galileo Galilei, Galileo Galilei was a friend of mine, and you, Sir, are no Galileo Galilei."

:lmao

[admiralsnackbar]

I apologize for how this is going to sound, but how not-laid do you have to get to become a fully-immersed conspiracy theorist? A conspiracy theory here and there is understandable, I guess, but when that's your whole shtick? I just don't get it.

[ChumpDumper]

"I knew Galileo Galilei, Galileo Galilei was a friend of mine, and you, Sir, are no Galileo Galilei."

:lmaoDo Lindgren and Barrett consider themselves experts prepared to testify for KSM?

[Galileo]

Do Lindgren and Barrett consider themselves experts prepared to testify for KSM?

In regards to what allaged overt act?

[Galileo]

I apologize for how this is going to sound, but how not-laid do you have to get to become a fully-immersed conspiracy theorist? A conspiracy theory here and there is understandable, I guess, but when that's your whole shtick? I just don't get it.

err, I'm trying to debunk a conspiracy theory.

I suggest you contact planet earth.

:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

In regards to what allaged overt act?Any of them.

[admiralsnackbar]

err, I'm trying to debunk a conspiracy theory.

I suggest you contact planet earth.

:lmao

:lol my bad -- I saw you got props from Alex Jones just as I was going to read your OP and my interest in reading kinda gave way to a need to be a prick.:toast

[Galileo]

Any of them.

Be specific. Which one? There are only 5 of them to choose from.

:bang

[DarkReign]

:lol my bad -- I saw you got props from Alex Jones just as I was going to read your OP and my interest in reading kinda gave way to a need to be a prick.:toast

They are the same person.

Alex Jones = Galileo = mouse

[Galileo]

BONUS

Conspiracy Theory: 911 Episode 2 Parts 1 thru 6
http://www.911blogger.com/node/22098

with Jesse Ventura!

[Galileo]

KSM Conspiracy Charges Analyzed and Debunked

Don’t believe the charges until you’ve read the charge sheet

By Rolf Lindgren and Dr. Kevin Barrett

The charge sheet against KSM and his co-defendants lists alleged overt acts, numbered 1 to 169, which the government claims furthered the 9/11 conspiracy. For the government to win the case, they need to convince the jury that each defendant committed at least one overt act that furthered the alleged conspiracy. A quick perusal of the charge sheet, however, shows no evident connection between the vast majority of these overt acts and any alleged conspiracy to commit mass murder.

PLEASE READ THE FEATURE ARTICLE:

http://www.truthjihad.com/ksm.htm

Radio Interview Tonight

Saturday, December 19th on Truth Jihad Radio, 5-7 pm Central, AmericanFreedomRadio.com to be archived here in a few days...

Final half hour: Rolf Lindgren will join me to discuss our brief for the defense KSM Conspiracy Charges Analyzed and Debunked.

http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.com/2009/12/bruce-levine-alison-weir-on-truth-jihad.html

:ihit

[Galileo]

Radio Interview Tonight

Saturday, December 19th on Truth Jihad Radio, 5-7 pm Central, AmericanFreedomRadio.com to be archived here in a few days...

Final half hour: Rolf Lindgren will join me to discuss our brief for the defense KSM Conspiracy Charges Analyzed and Debunked.

http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.com/2009/12/bruce-levine-alison-weir-on-truth-jihad.html

:ihit

TRUTH JIHAD RADIO

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December

12/19/2009 Saturday - 1st Hour: With Bruce Levine 2nd Hour: With Alison Weir and Rolf Lindgren

http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/Barrett_09.html

:wakeup

[Galileo]

Rolf Lindgren discusses KSM witch trial on F&B

Tuesday, December 22nd, 9 a.m. - 10 a.m. Pacific (noon - 1 pm Eastern) on Fair and Balanced, http://www.noliesradio.org, archived a few hours later here: Rolf Lindgren, lead author, KSM Conspiracy Charges Analyzed and Debunked.

http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.com/2009/12/rolf-lindgren-discusses-ksm-witch-trial.html

[Wild Cobra]

They are the same person.

Alex Jones = Galileo = mouse
Sounds about right to me.

[Galileo]

Great News!!

This article just got posted on the front pages of http://www.rense.com/ and http://whatreallyhappened.com/

Rense ranks # 1823 for web traffic in the US, while Whatreallyhappened ranks at # 5723:

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/rense.com

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/whatreallyhappened.com

[Galileo]

POLITICO Breaking News:

"The Obama administration on Friday abandoned plans to try 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in Manhattan, following objections from New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, a senior administration official said. The accused terrorist will be tried domestically, but officials have not decided where.... Options for the trial include a military base."

For a demonstration that these men are innocent, please see my detailed legal analysis here:

KSM Conspiracy Charges Analyzed and Debunked
Don’t believe the charges until you’ve read the charge sheet
http://www.truthjihad.com/ksm.htm

There is too big of a risk of a fair jury in Manhattan.

[ChumpDumper]

Where did you get your law degree, Rolf?

[Galileo]

Where did you get your law degree, Rolf?

could you tell from my writing style?

[ChumpDumper]

You didn't answer my question. I expect a "detailed legal analysis" from someone with legal training.

Where did you get your law degree?

[Galileo]

You didn't answer my question. I expect a "detailed legal analysis" from someone with legal training.

Where did you get your law degree?

I do have legal training. Did you locate any legal errors?

[ChumpDumper]

Again -- you didn't answer the question.

Where did you get your law degree?

[Galileo]

Again -- you didn't answer the question.

Where did you get your law degree?

It's none of your beez wax.

:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

You claim to have written a "detailed legal analysis."

Tell us all the extent or your legal training.

[mouse]

Did Dump ever explain WTC7?

[Galileo]

Did Dump ever explain WTC7?

He thinks it fell down from an office fire!

:rollin

:lmao :lmao :blah

:lmao :bang

:rollin

:ihit

[mouse]

I Think MythBusters already did a show with a can of gasoline and a old dog house to prove to America it was the fire, that brought down WTC7 not explosives. next week they prove JFK was shot with only one bullet with a skateboard and a grapefruit, make sure to tune in.

[Galileo]

Barrett & Lindgren cause Obama & Holder to Balk:

9/11 Trials Might Not Even Be in Civilian Courts Anymore
2/12/10
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/02/911_trials_might_not_even_be_i.html?mid=daily-intel--20100212

KSM Conspiracy Charges Analyzed and Debunked
Don’t believe the charges until you’ve read the charge sheet
By Rolf Lindgren and Dr. Kevin Barrett
December 9, 2009
http://www.truthjihad.com/ksm.htm

[ChumpDumper]

Did Dump ever explain WTC7?NIST did. I gave you a link to the report. Did you read it?


Barrett & Lindgren cause Obama & Holder to Balk:

9/11 Trials Might Not Even Be in Civilian Courts Anymore
2/12/10
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/02/911_trials_might_not_even_be_i.html?mid=daily-intel--20100212

KSM Conspiracy Charges Analyzed and Debunked
Don’t believe the charges until you’ve read the charge sheet
By Rolf Lindgren and Dr. Kevin Barrett
December 9, 2009
http://www.truthjihad.com/ksm.htmAre you contributing monetarily to KSM's defense?